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Kylie Season 1 Episode 2
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00:00They thought, uh-oh.
00:03Uh-oh.
00:07She's too cute and good for him, and he's too bad and hot for her.
00:12Yeah, well, I think people are going to be a bit shocked.
00:18Kylie Minogue has come out and said that she has never used hard drugs.
00:23Do you ever try and tempt her to do anything harder?
00:27What were the notes like?
00:30It's fun.
00:38She can do what she wants.
00:39I never tell anybody to do anything.
00:41She's on a real high herself.
00:42She doesn't need anything.
00:44How much fun?
00:45It's a lot of fun.
00:47Fun, yeah?
00:51According to some newspapers, I read you've discovered sex.
00:54Would you like me to come in further on that?
00:56Yes, I would.
00:57Yes, I would.
00:57Um, well, no, I can't, sorry.
01:00What are you trying to get to?
01:03How devilish was I?
01:06I was devilish enough.
01:14Let's get your sister out of the way very quickly.
01:16Does she even love?
01:18She was this sexy rock god that men and women just went, ugh.
01:24Love you, love you.
01:25Just oozed confidence, and confidence is sexy.
01:32In her world back then, confidence was just everything.
01:36How can I move?
01:38I really love you, love you.
01:40But I remember, it was just like she'd fallen head over heels.
01:45That's for sure.
01:46Love you, love you.
02:03We are now on the Orient Express on June 26th.
02:07This is an American couple filming this young Australian couple who are here to have a great
02:13time.
02:14You're on the air.
02:17Yes, he was this wild guy, but his intention was good, even if we weren't being so good.
02:25Everything was done with a lot of love.
02:36I had so many firsts with him, I never felt like I had blinkers on, but he took them off.
02:55I was at the perfect age, I was 21 years old.
03:03That's nice.
03:16He was hilarious.
03:22And cultured and tender.
03:29I love seeing the ones that are, that's not the shot.
03:33The moments around the shot.
03:40I just felt like I had my person there.
03:43Did you film you?
03:45I really did.
03:47Movie star.
03:49Oh.
03:49Movie star in Italy.
03:51In Italy.
03:51You can see in any pictures from then as well.
04:00Maybe life wasn't going so fast for a second.
04:03I didn't feel like it.
04:04Because I remember all of it.
04:06Like being on that boat in Hong Kong, with that feeling of promise.
04:14I felt like a jewel, if you dropped it, it would smash, but if you protected it, it could
04:21shine.
04:27Are you going to marry her?
04:29It would be nice to be proposed to, but I don't know, we'll have to see.
04:43At the time, I got in to see NXS recording in the studio, and I loved it.
04:52I loved being in amongst that.
04:55I felt like I'd discovered a tribe, thought it was amazing to see them write songs together
05:02and have ownership over the end result.
05:06You know, we're pretty much equal.
05:08We tend to discuss things.
05:09I say, I think this, and if they all go, oh yeah, we agree with that, then we'll go into
05:13songs, basically.
05:16It must be that way.
05:17You have to venture in yourself.
05:21Then it was like a light bulb.
05:27I wanted to express myself more, and I just hadn't had that before.
05:39I knew this was the turning point.
05:44She had a rock star boyfriend.
05:47Michael gave her the confidence to be confident.
05:51Whatever I did, I knew she wasn't going to like.
05:54Remember the old days, remember the old days, remember the old days, a bit of guitar, a bit
06:04more guitar.
06:06Here's a hi-hat.
06:09I'd started making noise.
06:12I've got an idea, I mean, what about this and what about that?
06:15We had no time to discuss anything, because we're, you know, we didn't have the time.
06:22I became really frustrated.
06:24It felt like fighting against the system.
06:28I know I've had 15 number ones.
06:31I know we've had 142 top 20s.
06:34I mean, I've lost count.
06:36I wanted to explore different ideas, be open to change.
06:41That's not what the public want.
06:42That's not what the public want.
06:43The public want I should be so lucky.
06:47Oh, well, I'm just tired of playing it so safe.
06:53And I should be allowed to speak, should be allowed to have some input, just to be able
07:00to have something to do with my work, you know, not just be the face for it.
07:11It's like someone was strangling any creativity that I had.
07:18And by being forced to be quiet, shut up and listen, I learnt a lot that way.
07:26And so things don't change.
07:29I won't be here anymore.
07:35Unless I could have things my way.
07:40Listen, I have two daughters, and at some point the young man don't know as much as they do.
07:50That's called growing up.
07:52I didn't used to be able to say no.
07:55You do now.
07:56I certainly do.
07:58Yeah, I do.
08:06I was reclaiming my sense of self.
08:13And that's when I discovered that there were many more Kylie's out there.
08:29I think my manager had said, there's a Kylie Knight, and I'd never heard of a Kylie Knight.
08:39I'm like, what?
08:49There's drag performers dressed as you.
08:53Do you want to go?
08:54Yeah.
08:55Yeah.
08:58It was like, wow.
09:06Like supersonic versions of me.
09:14And this was a time when it was in to really not like me.
09:23And I ended up on stage at this drag bar.
09:26And I felt like the least Kylie there.
09:30Yeah, I thought I'd go step it up.
09:32I gotta get some lashes on and some eyeliner or something.
09:40Pete Waterman had been badgered sufficiently to go, alright kid, what do you want?
09:45What kind of music do you want to make?
09:46And I think that might be the first time he really asked me that.
09:50I just had had enough.
09:54She was going to clubs.
09:56She's now part of that whole club scene.
10:01If you're in that, you're going to want your records to sound like that.
10:09Why do you think it suits people to portray you as some kind of bimba?
10:12Because it's easy and then I'm not a threat to them.
10:15There's something pretty remarkable about young Kylie Minogue.
10:20Gossip columnists write her off as the singing budgie.
10:24Well, the budgie's feathers are ruffled.
10:27Monday 29 Jan, 10.30 sharp.
10:30I remember that gig.
10:35We caught ourselves singing budgies.
10:39I remember what I was wearing.
10:41My amazing shiny tights that I was obsessed with.
10:46I remember Michael being smacked bang in the middle of the crowd.
10:52Kylie's got this real sweet, innocent image.
10:55Kylie's really not the person that people think she is.
10:58And there's a lot of strength.
11:00Singing budgie, you know, it's a horrible title.
11:03Whoever wrote that is probably fat and bald and 50 years old, but they look 70 and they've got bad
11:08breath and can't control themselves.
11:12And they're probably jealous.
11:16We've gone from I should be so lucky to Kylie the diva in one foul swoop.
11:23She wanted to see the video makers.
11:26She wanted her own stylists.
11:28She wanted her own stylists.
11:29The guys that we've worked with here for years, she just went, I'm not working with those guys anymore.
11:34Whether it's stylists or photographers or whoever, I'm working with them rather than just being force fed their ideas.
11:45I was running from the 80s, the sheen of it, the era of it, the puppeteering or the having no
11:54substance.
11:56And as soon as I had my image in my little grasp, by God, I turned into a lunatic.
12:04And falling free, I can't believe that you are really mine.
12:09Because we're shocked by the power.
12:12Oh, oh, oh, shocked by the power.
12:14Those two bars that we heard there, the first time anybody's heard your new single in this country.
12:19And a videotape to go with you.
12:20Well, yeah, that's being sent over tomorrow actually and it's quite different.
12:25Oh, oh my God, oh my God.
12:28This is it, this is the moment.
12:30Oh, what's your hat?
12:32Holy Mary, Mother of God.
12:35I guess I was taking the power back.
12:44Yeah, just saying, all right, let's go.
12:51Okay, one report, please.
12:53Oh my God, the press are going to ban it.
12:55I think it's going to be bad.
12:56I know it's going to be bad.
12:58Mum?
12:59What's your dad going to say?
13:03It's going to be bad.
13:10Harley Minogue, a squeaky clean next door neighbour.
13:13Kicks off her tour tonight.
13:15She'll be putting her new look and new sound through their paces.
13:19There we go, there we go.
13:21Right, right, right.
13:25What can the fans expect?
13:27It's lots of fun.
13:28It's just an hour and a half of letting go and just enjoying themselves.
13:33The papers in England have been saying your show's raunchier this time.
13:36Um, well, they've gone a little extreme.
13:39It's not an X-rated show or anything.
13:42Is that when I was wearing, like, really raunchy outfits?
13:52She couldn't have picked a worse thing to do.
13:56Kylie arrived by coach in Dublin after a four-hour journey from Belfast.
14:02It's great to finally be here.
14:04There was a lot of talk about her changing image for Kylie Minogue.
14:07Yeah, I saw that in the paper today.
14:09Nice hair to Yvonne.
14:11Yeah.
14:17So what can people expect when they come to see you?
14:25Well, lots of choreography, fair bitless costumes.
14:29My outfits have been designed by John Galliano.
14:33After checking her out, seeing how she danced, how she moved,
14:36getting to know her personality, I went away and did some drawings.
14:40So her first outfit was very inspired by Lolita.
14:47And it's worn over a frilly bra and, um, body slip with built-in knickers.
14:55Everybody's going, ah, this is... I'm going, no, no, no.
14:57Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa.
15:00Kylie's wish.
15:01Ready? Five, six, seven, eight.
15:05This is what she wants to do.
15:13She's going to find out for herself.
15:17I don't want people to know what to expect, actually.
15:19I want them to come with an open mind.
15:39Yeah, it was... we went a bit far.
15:41I'm not going to lie.
15:42We went a bit far.
15:50I mean, a good... maybe it was good in real,
15:52but it didn't look good in a freeze frame.
15:58I'm going to defend it with that.
16:05Does that help?
16:06I think it does help.
16:12But I know what you're going to cut to.
16:17Now, our next guest shocked her young fans
16:19by strutting across the stage in some of this ghetto.
16:22I don't have to describe it too much.
16:24Kylie, good morning.
16:25Hi, how are you?
16:25I'm very well.
16:26How do you... how do you react?
16:27I mean, did you read all the criticism
16:29or did you throw most of it away?
16:31I... I... I saw some of it.
16:37They say that you look a bit like Madonna now
16:39or you're trying to model yourself in Madonna.
16:40Well, when we're saying they,
16:42we're talking about tabloid praise.
16:44Yeah.
16:44That was tricky to defend those decisions.
16:54With your new tour in it, there is such controversy.
16:57Yeah, I... I'm a bit surprised.
17:02She kind of went too far
17:04crancing around the Dublin stage in lingerie.
17:06She went from the girl next door
17:09to the girl next door who's been around the flock.
17:12It's much raunchier than it was.
17:14Yes.
17:14I mean, I don't really like to call myself raunchy.
17:17We've just seen, uh, your raunchy new video.
17:20That... that new raunchy image.
17:21It's certainly, uh, fairly raw, isn't it?
17:24Raw? Um...
17:25Well, raw as in... as in raunchy, I mean.
17:28Now, there was a time when you thought
17:30where you said you were raunchier than your sister.
17:33She's changed the image, hasn't she?
17:35Yeah, she has lately.
17:36I remember thinking,
17:38this is so...
17:41boring...
17:44repetitive...
17:45stupid.
17:47To hear that Kylie Minogue is too sexy
17:49is a bit like hearing that
17:50Mary Poppins has turned into a hooker.
17:55I mean, imagine, you just show up to work every day
17:57and you just...
17:59What?
18:01There's even been speculation in Australia
18:04that you've had a boob job.
18:06Oh, dear.
18:08One magazine even went as far as
18:09showing before and after shots.
18:15It's exhausting.
18:19And then, as a female pop artist,
18:21if you say something,
18:24you're a bitch, you've got an ego,
18:26you're a diva.
18:28Any motive accompanying?
18:30No, well, you know,
18:31if you're going to interview me
18:33having researched tabloid newspapers,
18:36there's no point talking to me
18:37because I didn't see loads of mothers
18:39storming out with their children.
18:40And if you're a guy and you say,
18:42shut up, that's not true,
18:43people go, fair enough, he's right.
18:46One mother.
18:47So I get questioned.
18:48God, well, you know,
18:49parents are storming out with the kids.
18:51It's rubbish.
18:54I am disappointed at the moment
18:56because I'm not trying to...
18:58I'm trying to be myself.
19:02But whenever the going got tough,
19:04I had that love and support from Michael.
19:09In Excess is the first non-American group
19:12to land six consecutive top ten hits
19:15in the Hot 100 since Culture Club in 1983-84.
19:20What's going on?
19:20Thanks.
19:24But Michael was touring all over the world,
19:28so it became really hard for us to see each other.
19:40So I would send video messages to him.
19:45Is it telling you it was low light?
19:49One, two, three...
19:51Kylie says hello to Michael.
19:54What moment he wants?
19:57Hi!
19:58Hi!
19:59Hi!
20:00I think of another message she gave you very shortly.
20:06But it just became more and more difficult.
20:10Are you still in love with Kylie?
20:12I can't.
20:13Jeff.
20:16Don't ask me, Chris.
20:17That's...
20:18No, it's too private, you know.
20:20At the very least, we're very good friends,
20:21and I always will be.
20:24So, you know...
20:25And at the very best...
20:27Who knows?
20:29Who knows?
20:34He was the first in so many ways.
20:37Two worlds collided.
20:40And they could never tear us apart.
20:44And one of those first was...
20:47a heartbreak.
20:49I was devastated.
20:56We could live!
21:00He was a rock star.
21:02Which doesn't just mean...
21:05that he needs to have many women in his life,
21:07but he needed to...
21:09go where he needed to go.
21:15But I know from people in his circle...
21:18that he talked of me and thought of me.
21:27We were good together.
21:32Shoulda, woulda, coulda, whatever.
21:33You know, you go on and live your lives.
21:37Um, but it was definitely an amazing...
21:41point in time.
21:42And I've probably been looking for something like that ever since.
21:45And I haven't got it.
21:50Really?
21:51Yeah.
21:53Can I ask, when you think of them today...
21:56what does it make you feel?
22:02Good. Even if I'm getting teary, cause it's just...
22:04it's like...
22:06it was all good.
22:09Yeah?
22:10Well, to have...
22:12someone that you really felt like you were a good team.
22:16Yeah.
22:20Anyway, we've got to go past that.
22:27I didn't know where to go, what to do.
22:30And I didn't want to be in London.
22:31I didn't want to be in Australia.
22:34And so...
22:35I went to Paris.
22:38I remember having a tiny English to French dictionary.
22:44I didn't know anyone there.
22:46But I had two phone numbers scratched on a bit of paper.
22:50And one of those numbers was a friend of a friend of a friend of a friend of mine.
23:01And...
23:03she lived with a girl called Kat.
23:06My best, oldest girlfriend, Katarina Jeb, whose apartment we're in.
23:12Kat doesn't like to be in front of a camera.
23:15How are you?
23:15Tell me if you need anything.
23:18Okay.
23:19A whale.
23:21But she is an amazing photographer with an incredible eye and heart.
23:27Corners.
23:27Corners and corners.
23:29More corners.
23:31And we say corners.
23:33Love from all corners.
23:36Kat Jeb, Prince, what do we have here?
23:39Paris.
23:44I moved myself into her apartment.
23:47I got a sleeping bag.
23:48I slept on the sofa.
23:51I was feeling heartbroken and was escaping my feelings.
23:58But we would do photo sessions.
24:04Just the two of us.
24:06I didn't know who she was because of my exposure to pop culture.
24:11It was not very voluminous.
24:14But it was an instantaneous understanding.
24:22Going for it?
24:23I don't know.
24:26I've been the subject pretty much my entire life.
24:31But this was different.
24:35We're not doing it because someone's asked for it.
24:39We're doing it because we want to do it.
24:42The public persona versus the private persona.
24:46How many people can unveil themselves completely unfiltered?
24:53I'd been doing very dark lashes and kind of bouffant.
24:56And it was Kat who said to me,
24:58What about, would you just let your hair, just look the curls out or maybe less of the brows or...
25:04And then I went like to nothing.
25:08Even though a photograph can capture a moment, can capture a story, it's really hard to see yourself.
25:15There's this camera, there's a wall.
25:18You see through it.
25:19You can't see it, but there's a divide.
25:24And I felt with hers, the invisible wall was gone.
25:30And I was looking through Kat's photographs and I thought, wow, I can see me.
25:37She was a real saviour to me.
25:40I started to feel good and confident as a woman on my own.
25:49She has called it the end of an era, and they have refused to comment.
25:53But Kylie Minogue's relationship with Pete Waterman Limited, her record company of five years, has ended.
25:59Kylie told MTV News that PWL found it hard to accept the changes.
26:03To be honest, I wasn't sad.
26:06And I remember, honestly, I'm not telling you, I had to sit with the staff here.
26:11And explain that at some point, you left home from your mum and dad.
26:15Well, this is Kylie, leaving home from my mum and dad and making it out on her own.
26:20That's all it is.
26:21And that's part of growing up.
26:24You know, so...
26:27Um...
26:32We've come to an end.
26:33Things do come to an end, you know.
26:40I signed two deconstruction records.
26:45They had a very independent feel.
26:47Kylie, how are you doing nice to meet you?
26:52They were open to experimentation.
26:56And wanted me to be much more involved.
27:01And we talked about a very different vocal delivery.
27:06We all get hurt by love.
27:10We all have a cross to bear.
27:15I hadn't done those kind of notes before.
27:17But it was like, feel the fear and do it anyway.
27:20Problems shall be shared
27:27I've never done anything like that.
27:38Kylie Minogue returns to the pop scene this week
27:41with a new record and a new sound.
27:49The new album, Kylie Minogue,
27:51has widely been greeted as your bid to become treated as a serious artist.
27:56Is that how you see it?
27:57I can use whatever language I like.
28:16If Kylie Minogue represents the Australian dream,
28:19then Nick Cave is surely the Australian nightmare.
28:27Attracting a cult following with his twisted lyrics and darkly wasted image.
28:37I think, I think those songs are written with a fair amount of disgust, I think, so...
28:48Because I'm a pretty disgusted person.
28:56Look, I was, um, an observer.
29:01And I just always liked her.
29:03Whenever I saw her on the TV, there was something about her that I liked.
29:08But, you know, I didn't sit around and listen to her records or anything.
29:12I wasn't like a fan fan.
29:16But there was something that I recognised in her that I responded to.
29:22But you just don't like the photograph?
29:24No, I don't really.
29:25So, let's move it along here.
29:29There was a strange thing with Kylie because even though she had mass appeal,
29:34you know, she had everything but credibility.
29:38And I looked at her because I had credibility but not much else.
29:52At that time, I was writing a bunch of murder songs.
29:56So I had a kind of audacious idea for Kylie Minogue to do a murder ballad.
30:06But there was terrible opposition from management and so forth.
30:11But this is just a fucked up idea.
30:13Which it was.
30:15This is cool.
30:17Storyboard for where the wild roses grow.
30:20This is so cool.
30:22Nick observes Kylie's face and body in water.
30:26I was a well-known sort of drug addict.
30:29Close-up angle static.
30:30Kylie lays in water.
30:31Tear on cheek.
30:32Flies possibly buzz around face.
30:34And the nature of the song was dubious.
30:37Close-up static.
30:38Nick reaches for rock.
30:40Again.
30:43Yeah, I mean, that's always been close to my heart.
30:46Nick reached out.
30:47And I was like...
30:50Who?
30:51Like, huh?
30:52I was not the demographic of Nick Cave and the Bad Seeds.
30:56Fan club.
30:58But there is an Australian thing.
31:00They just do shit, right?
31:02They just do stuff.
31:03And they don't think about it too much.
31:05They just give stuff a shot, you know.
31:07And she's like, yeah, okay.
31:10And...
31:11I was...
31:12I was naive.
31:13I didn't know.
31:17We were waiting for her to come into the studio.
31:22I don't think anyone had met Kylie before.
31:27And the Bad Seeds, we were a dark force.
31:33This group of weird, fucked-up sort of broken men.
31:39And a lot of drugs and a contemptuous, pessimistic view of the world.
31:46But when she came into the studio...
31:51She was like this sort of...
31:53beam of light.
31:58With this incredible positivity.
32:04I don't think we'd ever met anyone in our lives, really, that liked life.
32:12Just this sort of bold...
32:16brightness.
32:17And we were really...
32:19We were terrified.
32:20Or offered to some degree.
32:23On the first day I saw her...
32:26I knew she was...
32:26And when she went to record...
32:28She sang in a kind of...
32:31Kylie-esque, trained...
32:34Lot of vocal tricks, I guess.
32:36And we were like, look.
32:38Forget all that.
32:39Just sing it straight.
32:41When he knocked on my door...
32:43And entered the room...
32:46Sing it less.
32:47Like almost make it a story.
32:50He would be my first...
32:51And be a character.
32:53With a careful hand.
32:55He wiped out the tears...
32:56And she just did this version of it that so beautifully haunted the whole thing.
33:01They call me the wild and pro.
33:05We were just...
33:06staggered.
33:08But my name was alive today.
33:12Why'd you call me that fight to my nose?
33:18Good evening, and we have something very special for you tonight on Top of the Pops.
33:24I remember doing Top of the Pops.
33:27I think you can see by the performance...
33:29I don't know what's going on.
33:32I'm just sort of bumbling around.
33:35You know, the people that turned up to my concerts were psychos.
33:40We would be taking iron bars and scissors and knives off people in the front row.
33:45So I know about a dangerous audience.
33:49But I've never experienced anything like Kylie Minogue's audience.
33:56They were terrifying.
34:00Just these sort of monstrous, awful teenage girls.
34:06They did not like me.
34:08They did not like me to go near their princess.
34:12Well, Nick gets worried that my fans didn't like him or didn't like the project.
34:17I don't think that's so.
34:20And these little girls are like, you fucking old bastard.
34:23What are you doing? You horrible old cunt.
34:26They were just evil.
34:28So I couldn't help but throw my arms around Kylie.
34:34And they're just running their fingers across their throats and saying, just don't.
34:39And then they'd turn the cameras towards them.
34:41And they'd all be like, hey!
34:45Kylie with Nick Cave and the Bad Seeds. Right, well done.
34:48Evil. Evil people.
34:54I'm a hell of a lot better for seeing you.
34:58Did you read about us in the paper?
35:00No.
35:02Apparently we're snogging.
35:09More snogging than singing was the thing.
35:13Our worlds collided.
35:15But it was like another kind of love.
35:23I'm going to sound like I was falling in love all the time, but it was really some kind of
35:31union that wasn't romantic.
35:36I think we recognised a vulnerability in each other.
35:42That we were sort of, I think at that time, trying to escape.
35:49I was locked into a kind of lifestyle that was becoming increasingly problematic.
35:57I was Kylie.
35:59I could see the world.
36:04In a positive way.
36:11I'd like to invite now, Miss Kylie Minogue to come up here.
36:18I think she wanted to break free from the sort of constraints that she thought she was imprisoned by.
36:29A prisoner of an image.
36:33That she was a sort of brainless pop.
36:38Pablum, you know.
36:39Mush.
36:40But she had things to say.
36:43Particularly with the lyrics, it's like the most important thing you can do really.
36:48And if you're writing your own lyrics, you don't have other people's thoughts coming out of your mouth.
36:52Sort of defining yourself in a way.
36:55Nick Cave says to me, where are your lyrics?
37:00I'm not really fully fleshed somewhere yet.
37:03If you feel things, then you're able to write them.
37:06So, I hope you do that, Kylie.
37:09You know what I did find?
37:11Lyrics.
37:13I remember trying to write something that would talk to me.
37:19I wanted to be your lonesome cowboy.
37:21I wanted to love you till it hurt.
37:23Oh, wow.
37:24That was a lyric.
37:25That's not my writing.
37:26Someone else's written in my book.
37:27She wanted to be stopped in time suspended.
37:29It was the best ever night of it.
37:31And I said that obviously didn't make it.
37:33I mean...
37:35It's really terrible.
37:36This is going to sound really terrible when I say it out loud.
37:39You just can't wait, can you?
37:40Who would have thought that little girl would end up living out her wildest dreams?
37:46Sometimes it sounds really not so great saying it.
37:50There's a lot of absolute tosh in here.
37:53There's got to be something in here.
37:56I wanted to sometimes be irresponsible.
38:00I wanted to own the choice I made.
38:03Quite revealing.
38:05In what way?
38:08It's not self-explanatory.
38:10It's not very revealing at all.
38:14But then I caught something from the creative ether.
38:18Got up in this house, strapped my very old self and snared my mind.
38:21It felt like a fire was just like coming out of me.
38:27Oh gosh.
38:30It was like contained rage.
38:36I wanted to find a way to put an end to all of my destruction.
38:40I wanted to know what I was worth.
38:43She really was.
38:44She, I.
38:49I was just really in it.
38:51I wasn't separate to the song.
38:54Well, I would make it slower and shorter.
38:59I really wanted to be more than one facet.
39:03I have so many characters lurking in my body.
39:06It's frightening.
39:07I'm possessed.
39:12It was much more on the edge.
39:16I was very on the edge, clearly.
39:19That's what I was saying.
39:22What do you mean?
39:26Her new album.
39:28Two years in the making.
39:30Let's get this lady out here, the impossible princess herself.
39:33Ladies and gentlemen, Carly Manone.
39:36Have you totally disown those really early songs now?
39:40I've actually not been able to say I should be so lucky in so many years.
39:44And in a way, it was a slight exorcism.
39:48There was an honesty and a purity and a, I'm just putting it all out there.
39:54Definitely the most personal work I've ever done.
39:58Is that more nerve-wracking when it goes out?
40:01Yeah.
40:02Scary.
40:06And then I saw a billboard.
40:08You don't know about the billboard?
40:11There was a billboard that said,
40:14we've decided what to do with Kylie's music.
40:18Don't play it.
40:20Boom!
40:24A royal slap.
40:26Quick test for sound, are you alright?
40:28Yeah, go on.
40:28One, two, three, four, five. Hello, here we are at Tower Records.
40:31Have you started?
40:31Yep, it's about to.
40:32Sorry.
40:35Okay.
40:36Carly, if we could first start by asking you about the new album.
40:38I don't think I was on the radio at all.
40:41How did it all come about?
40:43Uh, in fact, some stations were actively not playing me.
40:50In the house tonight, wielding the new Mojica, Jason Donovan.
40:53You have to talk about Kylie Minner.
40:54Do you follow her career?
40:55Yeah.
40:55And her kind of friendship with the latest album into doing some indie stuff?
40:58What do you think of that?
41:00It hasn't worked, I don't think.
41:04Kylie! Kylie!
41:12Some people just want to watch you crumble and they're on to the next person.
41:19Pop, disposable, pop, disposable.
41:22Other team sensations seem to have come gone.
41:23What do you think your appeal is?
41:25I mean, there's some sort of disappear.
41:27You'd be better off asking other people that than me.
41:30I can't be that self-analytical, I don't think.
41:34Many, many times I just thought, I just honestly don't know if this is worth it.
41:39Just tell me about the album. It's got overly magical.
41:44And the minute you start trying to defend yourself, they've won.
41:55Excuse me, where are you from?
41:57Is that a serious question?
41:58Yeah.
41:58Is there any truth that we're not talking?
42:00Yeah.
42:01I find that so ridiculous.
42:05Do you think she's had it really in terms of the music industry?
42:08I never thought she had it in the first place really.
42:10Yeah.
42:11I was making deconstruction, no money.
42:14Zipper, nada, rien, nothing.
42:17So, she's off the books.
42:21I thought, I'm going to act again.
42:23Because there was enough people who were thinking, if not saying, that's it, it's done.
42:49I got a phone call.
42:52And yeah.
42:57I don't remember what words she said, but it was like, he's gone.
43:07I got the flight back to Sydney for the funeral.
43:13And I just went, oh, that's another first.
43:17This is my first service that I've been to.
43:20Like, okay, always with the firsts.
43:24You know?
43:29We gather to mourn the death of someone whom most of us barely knew.
43:40We listened to him sing and felt that it was for us alone.
43:47We're here today to mourn the death of Michael Hutchence.
43:56It might seem disproportionate, the emotion and the memories I have with him and with that time.
44:05But I just felt protected and nurtured and valued and believed in.
44:14Someone you counted on is gone.
44:17I remember being at the church and it was overwhelming, the outpouring of love for him.
44:24Someone who was your rock is no more.
44:27That's going to sound totally crazy, but I felt him just saying, it's okay.
44:32It will be okay.
44:36I always feel he's with me.
44:41It's kind of crazy, but I do.
44:46Which is so, like, you can, you can have relationships with, as I have had, you know, relationships with different
44:54people, but someone that really just believed in, believes in you so much.
45:03Here's an important point.
45:05He really didn't want me to be someone else for him at all.
45:12He was encouraging me to discover me.
45:17Oh, my God.
45:31Oh, my God.
45:33Oh, my God.
45:35Oh, my God.
45:42Oh, my God, my God.
45:45And then I'll get you here with all the things I live with.
45:47to introduce the first of the talented and totally diverse artists.
45:51I was asked to go and perform at this thing called the Poetry Olympics.
45:55Two days and nights of continuous poetry that was put on that at the Albert Hall.
46:04Here is a love that makes its bargain with bad habits.
46:09Tell me lies about Vietnam.
46:11You can have sex with anyone, but with whom?
46:16Can you sleep?
46:17This had some great poets in it, but mostly it was just this endless, worthy art.
46:26When I take off my head, the head looks into my bleeding neck.
46:32The fucking baby's fucking crying, the fucking flower's fucking dying.
46:37People have been sitting in their chairs, I think, for, you know, a day listening to this poetry.
46:46I was seeing Kylie quite a bit.
46:50And I'm like, why don't you come along and recite something?
46:54I was thinking, are you mad?
46:57The sword of Damocles is hanging over all of us.
47:01This is not my world.
47:02I'm not from the literary world.
47:05In view of that, what subject can we sensibly discuss?
47:09So, I tried everything to get out of it.
47:12She said she tried to get out of it.
47:14Oh, really?
47:15We weren't having any of that.
47:18For what is liberty without the liberty to pack?
47:22And I said to Nick, God's on stage, how do we follow that?
47:26He said, Jesus did okay.
47:28And then he went out.
47:36The way I remember it is that, which, which, I'm surprised I can remember anything at all
47:41because we were so out of it.
47:43Ho, ho, ho, ho, ho, ho, ho.
47:50Now we have to bring on a flame-like Tony Mano, ladies and gentlemen.
47:57She walked on this pop princess up against the most elitist art form there is of poetry.
48:08I want to thank you.
48:11Well, I didn't expect to be here, but I have come with words that I did not write, which
48:16I shall read to you.
48:28In my imagination, there is no hesitation.
48:33I dream about you all the time.
48:37And I could hear the recognition that the audience, they were with me and with us.
48:44In my imagination, there is no complication.
48:48We walked again, our hand in hand.
48:50She just broke the night open.
48:52And I'm dreaming that you're in love with me.
48:55Was poetry that we could understand.
49:01I should be so lucky.
49:04Lucky, lucky, lucky hell.
49:08I should be so lucky in hell.
49:15It was like being face-to-face with my old self.
49:20The one that I was trying to turn my back on.
49:26I don't know if I said this out loud, but I, you know, I'm like, what the fuck are you
49:29doing?
49:30Like, indie?
49:30They, I mean, no one willingly wants to be indie.
49:39They may say they do.
49:46But that's not what Kylie is.
49:49Kylie is this force.
49:57That is there to affect thousands and thousands and thousands of people.
50:04It's all outward.
50:07It's all giving.
50:11You have an enormous positive influence.
50:14It's these people that go along to their first pop concert.
50:17It's a life-changing moment where they feel something that they've never known before.
50:25The great beauty of pop music is that it is a joy machine.
50:34You've got the coolest guy on the planet saying, where's the pop tunes?
50:45Right, let's get the jetpacks on and let's get back to the dance floor.
50:50But if this doesn't work, I am finished.
50:57I'm spinning around, move out of my way
51:00I know you're feeling me cause you like it like this
51:04I'm breaking it down, I'm not the same
51:08I know you're feeling me cause you like it like this
51:41It's all Animated Gen
51:41And if you're a fan of
51:41And you-
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