00:02three o'clock good to have you with us we spent the first hour talking about the Pistons
00:06a plus tone setter way to start the series a couple of questions within it we can certainly
00:12continue with your calls but I do want to turn our attention to what happened last night with
00:17the Tigers and look I'm pissed I'm pissed because it was absurdity and then I'm even
00:27more angry in that I have to unwind something that I feel was I mean at best dumb and at
00:33worst was
00:34willfully dishonest so let's just go through this so Framber Valdez got lit up okay he was terrible
00:43and this is the one thing I said is I had no problem they wanted to pay Framber but what
00:48did
00:48I say about him there's going to be four or five starts a year where he just unravels when things
00:53don't go his way he can he can erupt including dotting his own catcher that's just real actually
01:02happened now last night they couldn't take Framber out of the game because you don't have any pitching
01:08the bullpen is already pre-scheduled chaos so Framber kind of had to take one for the team
01:14even though it wasn't his night and it didn't go well and he would have been pulled earlier
01:19but he stays in the game he gives up back-to-back home runs to make it 10 to 3
01:25and then he dots
01:27Trevor Story in the back that's weak sauce now before you do a Dirks and tell me that it wasn't
01:35intentional well a the manager disagrees and b here's a fun fact and this is either the biggest
01:42coinkydink in the history of coinkydinks or it's intentional Framber Valdez has thrown 694 pitches this
01:50season he waited until dotting Trevor Story in the back to throw his first four-seam fastball
01:58of the year not of the inning not of the game of the season
02:05oh well they were stealing his signs oh he was tipping pitches dude now here's the problem
02:14Framber is facing a seven-game suspension you don't have pitching it's childish it's selfish it's dumb
02:24and even AJ Hinch came out and he said quote it didn't feel good to be out there he doesn't
02:32agree
02:32with what his pitcher did but yet here's what you gotta unwind I want to play the audio David
02:38do you have the one that splits our tv crew and Boston's because Dan Dickerson called it straight
02:45up Dan Dickerson knew what he watched bruh everybody knew what they watched one person didn't take a
02:53listen to the difference between the Detroit call and the Boston call and tell me what you hear here
02:59because I'm telling you this I can't abide especially from a former player who knows what's up
03:06stop take a listen to this
03:35you
03:40you
03:41you
03:42you
03:42you
05:12He made it.
05:13He made the show.
05:14He knows that game at a way different level.
05:17No one in baseball shares his take.
05:22That's an insane take.
05:25Valdez is a known baby.
05:28And when things don't go his way, he lashes out.
05:31You just own it.
05:33He was selfish.
05:35Now they're probably going to be without him for at least a start at a time that they can't have
05:41anyone else miss starts.
05:42If he gets suspended for seven games, that's probably two starts in the rotation.
05:48Yeah.
05:49The idea that I have to unwind that, that is not, that is at best, it's just a horrible take.
05:56At worst, it's just you're not being honest.
05:59No, he, it was almost as if he took it personal.
06:03Dierks is almost like he wanted to go down and join into the fight.
06:07Okay.
06:07What learning is there?
06:09You gave up back-to-back bombs, 10 runs, and you dotted a guy.
06:14The ump knows that you threw a fastball and grooved it between his numbers.
06:17Yes.
06:18And this wasn't even like an accidental, oops, it slipped out of my hand.
06:23It was purposely done.
06:24And then when he gets tossed, well, he's only gotten tossed because the Red Sox are lobbying for this.
06:29Do we have that audio?
06:30Here, listen to this because he wasn't done.
06:32Listen to this, what Rico's referencing.
07:08Listen to this, what Rico's referencing.
07:27Stick to the kazoo.
07:28Kenny.
07:29That's crazy talk.
07:31Oh, here, here's an idea.
07:32Andy, your former player.
07:33Do you think the Red Sox wanted him out of the game?
07:37It was batting practice.
07:40It's not about them complaining.
07:42The guy is a known wild card.
07:45You know that.
07:46You know it.
07:47Hey, how about when he dotted his own catcher like a psychopath?
07:51He dotted a guy after back-to-back bombs, having given up 10 runs.
07:56There's no warning.
07:58You're out.
07:59What warning is there?
08:02I just, I'm sorry.
08:03And I know maybe I'm hung up on the wrong thing.
08:05The idea is if I don't head that off at the pass, I'm going to get a million people who
08:09watched that game last night.
08:10They're going to take that as gospel.
08:12And yet no one else in the baseball world, no players have that take.
08:17Even the manager.
08:18Come on.
08:18Didn't have that take.
08:19There you go.
08:19A.J.
08:20Hinch didn't even stand up for his guy.
08:22He basically is like, I'm embarrassed to be out here.
08:24It's ridiculous.
08:25Nobody throw a punch because we shouldn't even be here.
08:28You're upset because your pitches got tipped because you weren't hiding them.
08:34And no, this wasn't the whole trash can beating.
08:37This wasn't the buzzers in your jersey type of cheating.
08:40This was, you weren't protecting your pitches and they could see your hand and your glove
08:45and they knew what you were throwing.
08:46And they were telling the other batters, okay, this is what's coming.
08:49That's on you, man.
08:51Okay.
08:52And to get upset.
08:53And yeah, you hit him.
08:55It was clear.
08:56It was, like I said, this wasn't a whoops, the ball slipped out of my hand type of thing.
09:01Cause I've seen that before.
09:03Like, you know what?
09:04My bad.
09:05Didn't mean to hit you like that.
09:06He knew exactly what he was doing the entire time.
09:10The benches come clearing out and no.
09:12And then he hides.
09:13Like, I agree with the Boston broadcast there.
09:15Dave O'Brien and Will Middlebrooks.
09:17He hides behind his team coming out for him.
09:20Instead of, if you're the one upset, if you're the one that want to throw the ball at the
09:24story here, then stand up and fight for yourself.
09:28I'm more upset that he's probably gone at a time we can't.
09:31First of all, I'm upset they've lost two to the Red Sox, which is unforgivable.
09:34But at a time where it's like, look, Framber, you're still a really good pitcher.
09:38You're having a terrible night.
09:39I told you, he's going to have four or five of these a year.
09:42It's who he is.
09:43But when it goes bad, man, does it go bad?
09:45You just needed to be a good soldier.
09:47We're giving you $40 million a year.
09:49Hey man, I know this sucks, but I can't take you out of this game because I don't, our
09:54bullpen is taxed.
09:55Right.
09:56If you're that angry, throw the ball at AJ for leaving you, putting you back out there
09:59in the game.
09:59Do you want AJ's quote in full?
10:01Here.
10:02I understand.
10:03I understand their frustration.
10:04I understand the optics.
10:06I understand the whole thing.
10:08We play a really good brand of baseball here.
10:10That didn't feel like it.
10:12That's not judging intent.
10:14I have no idea.
10:16But I know when you go on the field and you end up in those confrontations, you feel like
10:20you're in the right.
10:21It didn't feel good being out there.
10:24Close quote.
10:25Really?
10:26So AJ doesn't buy it.
10:28No.
10:28I don't think his teammates buy it.
10:31And no one in baseball buys it.
10:33No.
10:33I just, that's what angers me.
10:35The Valdez part, but then on TV, you can't do that.
10:39Come on, man.
10:40You're a former player.
10:41You can't.
10:42There's no world.
10:44We're sitting here going, oh, well, the Sox complained and got him tossed.
10:47What world are you in?
10:50He's acting out.
10:52That's what Framber does.
10:53He just dotted a guy.
10:55Well, it's funny because I don't know if we have the audio, but later on, the Boston
10:59announcers even referenced that, like, well, next, I guess, is going to be the catcher
11:02he's going to hit.
11:03But he better watch out as well.
11:05Like, everybody knows his reputation.
11:07You didn't need a warning.
11:09We knew what that was.
11:11The ump knew.
11:12Your coach knew.
11:13Everybody knew you were frustrated and you hit story.
11:17And that's the whole thing.
11:17I need Framber Valdez to be a leader.
11:19Tarek Skubel is gone.
11:20And I don't know when he's coming back.
11:23I need you to lead.
11:24This is not what a leader does.
11:26And please, spare me, if you're some 90-year-old, respect, calling in about Bob Gibson in the
11:31summer of 60.
11:32I don't want to hear it.
11:33That's not what this is.
11:35Did you say Bob Gibson?
11:37Yeah.
11:38Like, well, Bob Gibson used to throw it, guys.
11:40Okay.
11:41Let me just stop.
11:42This is different.
11:43Okay.
11:44Well, if Bob Gibson had given up 10 runs, including back-to-back bombs, and then dotted
11:49a guy in the skull, that's not the same thing as getting a guy who's crowding the plate.
11:54Well, put it like this.
11:55I'm sure Bob Gibson, like Nolan Ryan, would have stood up there and just said, you want
11:58to fight?
11:59Let's fight.
11:59Right.
12:00Valdez says, you know, it wasn't on purpose.
12:03It might have looked like it, but it wasn't.
12:04Okay.
12:04Explain why you chose that moment to throw your first four-seam fastball in 694 pitches.
12:10Yeah.
12:13We all know what it was, except for some reason.
12:16Yeah, Dierks, that was just a weird reaction to the whole thing, and then he wouldn't let
12:20it go.
12:20And it's like, what are you saying that I'm not saying?
12:24What do you know that I don't know?
12:25Greater Life Church.
12:26They're ready.
12:28They got the papal polygraph.
12:33There's no, I just, I refuse to live in a world where a former player actually believes
12:37what he said on the air.
12:39You can't.
12:39You can't do it.
12:41And again, I have the utmost respect for former players, man.
12:44These are the one-on-one.
12:44Baseball's the hardest thing on God's green earth to do.
12:47Round ball, round object.
12:48But give me a break.
12:50You know why he did what he did.
12:52And then saying, oh, well, the Sox complaint.
12:54I mean, dude, he had to get tossed.
12:58I don't think the Sox had to say a word.
13:00Good God.
13:012-4-8-5-3-9-97-97.
13:03I want to get some calls on it.
13:05I'm annoyed with Framber.
13:06I know the play-by-play thing.
13:09I understand that that's probably a way lesser issue for many people.
13:11But what I don't want to do is sit here and take 20 phone calls of people who will take
13:15that as gospel.
13:16I'm going to head that off at the pass.
13:18That's ridiculous is what it was.
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