00:00Let's address what happened over at Comerica Park and then we'll get back to the Pistons.
00:04That's Dan Dickerson on the call.
00:05That's 10 runs surrendered by Frambois Valdez and he let it get to him.
00:11He threw a tantrum and he threw at Trevor Story and got himself ejected in the fourth inning.
00:19He can deny it was intentional.
00:21It's the first four-seamer he's thrown all season and it sure didn't miss.
00:25I don't know that I would expect in a post-game interview after something like that to ask a picture.
00:32Did you intentionally hit him?
00:35What in the hell do you expect him to say?
00:38Yes, I threw at him.
00:40Please suspend me.
00:41Did you order the code red?
00:43Did they deserve to die?
00:46I know, but I hope nobody's fallen for it is all I'm saying because we don't ask them.
00:51Hey, did you commit the crime?
00:52No.
00:53Well, case closed.
00:53He said he didn't do it.
00:54No, of course you have to use your eyes and what happened.
00:58He was upset.
01:00It almost looked like his interpreter wanted to smirk when he was translating what Frambois Valdez was saying.
01:08Like, yeah, no, I didn't do it on purpose.
01:12It just bothers me so much because you lose Scoobel.
01:17Valdez is your ace for now.
01:18You're paying him damn near $40 million.
01:21There's nobody healthy.
01:22They emptied the bullpen the day before.
01:25Buddy, you're just going to have to wear it.
01:27You're highly compensated.
01:28Be a leader.
01:30Deal with it.
01:31And he doesn't dig deep.
01:32Instead, he says, F my teammates.
01:35You guys can fight my battle.
01:37You guys can finish the game.
01:38And now I may get suspended so you can keep fighting my battles.
01:41I hate that.
01:42Well, at least he didn't cross up his catcher.
01:44Yet.
01:46Well, but that's in all of those things.
01:49When you do something like that, all of a sudden that comes up because it's part of your resume.
01:55It's selfish, though, is what it is.
01:57It is.
01:59You've got to just man up and deal with it.
02:01You're not pitching well.
02:02Get through the inning.
02:03You don't take it out by making your teammates fight your battle now the rest of the way.
02:07And I've gone back and forth.
02:09Tom, I'll let you go ahead and go because I know you've got a different take.
02:11I'm not going to sit here and defend any action of Valdez whatsoever in terms of what he did.
02:16I think when a baseball pitcher throws at somebody because they're not doing good is pathetic and pouty.
02:23OK, what I am going to take issue with and why nobody yet I've seen in the media has criticized
02:29AJ Hinch whatsoever for putting him out there in the fourth inning to begin with.
02:33I know you said the team is in a situation, Jim.
02:36There comes a time and a point, though, where you don't put a player in a situation.
02:39That's the first time in Frambois Valdez's career in the third inning that he gave up five consecutive hits.
02:45He was pitching horribly.
02:46He got hung out to dry by McKinstry in the first inning with the error.
02:49So three of the runs were unearned and AJ Hinch never should have put him out there.
02:54You have guys that are sitting out there that can pitch.
02:56Let them take the bullets.
02:58You don't put your star player.
03:00Yes, he's a star player in that situation.
03:03And he never, ever, ever would have done that to Tarek Skubel yesterday.
03:09I don't know, because they were in a situation where they needed someone to eat innings.
03:13Yes.
03:14There's somebody else out there.
03:15I want to clarify something.
03:16Did somebody else come in?
03:17Because Valdez forced them to come in.
03:19Yeah.
03:19So he could have gone to them.
03:20He never should have started that inning.
03:22You don't put players in situations like that when they're getting roughed up.
03:25I'll go back to Patrick Waugh and what the Canadians did to him way back to the day.
03:29You don't hang your player out to dry.
03:31Jim Caldwell benched Matthew Stafford that one game.
03:34Because you don't put a player in a situation.
03:36At some point, you cut your losses and you say, somebody else is going to have to figure
03:40it out because I'm not going to put, again, my star in that situation.
03:44I want to just clarify something.
03:47A.J. Hinch did not put Frambois Valdez in a, quote, situation.
03:51Frambois Valdez put himself in that situation by throwing extending batting practice deep into
03:57the fourth inning.
03:58He shouldn't have been in the fourth inning, in my mind.
04:00Well, yeah, but he doesn't have the connection that A.J. and Scoobal have, right?
04:05Scoobal just, they would have locked eyes and would have known that his day was done.
04:09Exactly.
04:09Yeah.
04:11You agree with the Scoobal thing.
04:12I know you do, Jim.
04:13I know you're frustrated with Valdez, but I know you also agree with my Scoobal angle
04:17on this.
04:18Tarek Scoobal never, ever would have been put in that situation last night.
04:22Yeah, Scoobal wouldn't have been in that situation.
04:23Oh, see, that's the answer.
04:25If the same thing happened, Jim, do you think you would have trotted Scoobal out there in a
04:28fourth?
04:29No, I think you would have went and got Scoobal in the third.
04:31I'll give you an example.
04:31Valdez earlier this year against the Twins, he got hit up hard in the first inning, and
04:35then he settled in and he got him at least five.
04:37It wasn't pretty, but he saved the bullpen.
04:39That's probably what A.J. was thinking is, hey, you had your eruption in the third.
04:43I just need you to put your head down and buck up and get us through the fourth and the
04:48fifth inning because I got very little options coming out of the bullpen right now.
04:52And I got Flaherty throwing the next day, which he's never going to publicly admit,
04:55but man, I need all hands on deck right now.
04:57So how about the guy we handed a record-setting contract to acts like a grown-up, an adult,
05:03a professional, and finishes the bleeping inning?
05:06I'm not shocked that he threw at the next batter.
05:10I don't think anybody should be shocked.
05:13It's disappointing, and I don't think he necessarily was thinking about the situation that the Tigers
05:21are in right now should have been because they did use literally everyone the day before.
05:28But they had somebody to go to.
05:30They needed him to eat more innings.
05:33Did the Tigers forfeit after Valdez left the game, or did somebody come in to pitch?
05:36So somebody was available.
05:38Yeah, and Jake Rogers was ultimately available if it really came down to it, but that's not the point.
05:42My thing is, to whom much is given, much is expected.
05:49And do I think that AJ should have taken him out before then?
05:53Sure, but he didn't.
05:55And you're expected to go out there and eat up five innings?
05:59Sorry, it's not going your way, but your shoulders should be broad enough.
06:03We know your pocketbook is.
06:05You make a decision sometimes in a game where you look out for the athlete before you look
06:11out for the team, and the game was probably over anyways in my mind, and I think he hung
06:16him out to dry a little bit.
06:17I'm not defending Valdez at all.
06:20Also, AJ, the psychologist, right?
06:24Recognize who you're dealing with here.
06:26A volatile guy who might go out there and do something stupid the next inning because of
06:32what happened prior.
06:34We'll get feedback.
06:35You guys, if you see what Tom sees and want to put some of this on AJ2, feel free.
06:402-4-8-5-3-9-97-97.
06:42One last little thing.
06:44I don't know where Dierks was coming from.
06:46He was upset that Boston, he in his mind, advocated for Valdez to be tossed.
06:52Why would Boston want Valdez to be tossed?
06:55They should want him to stay in the game.
06:57I know.
06:57I know.
06:58The Tigers wanted that first inning to last as long as possible.
07:01I mean, they didn't want that guy to be going.
07:03I just didn't understand his gripe.
07:05Let's get to Heather with the news.
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