00:00that. The judge did tell Allen in court yesterday that he'd be willing to potentially move him to a
00:05cell that would have window access and less restrictions. We'll wait to see what ruling
00:11comes down. We'll send it back to you. Thank you, John. All right. Joining me now to continue
00:18this conversation is Barry Donatio, who is a former U.S. Secret Service agent. So before I
00:24get to you, let me let me just say breaking news now. Cole Allen, that guy we're talking about,
00:30was indicted by a grand jury on another count, a total of four, and the new charges assaulting a
00:36federal officer with a deadly weapon. So I guess we should continue to treat him nicer and nicer.
00:44I mean, shouldn't there be like a mint on his pillow? Shouldn't the judge grant him that too?
00:50Thanks for having me on your show. I don't necessarily agree with the judge.
00:53This case is because of the defendant itself. He was on a suicide mission. So the justice system
01:01has an obligation to protect him while he's in custody. It would be an issue of liability. I
01:07have not heard that they don't allow a Bible, but I'm sure we're not getting the whole story on that
01:14either way. But the judge shouldn't be apologizing to the defendant at this juncture just because he
01:21was kept in a cell that was meant to protect him from hurting himself.
01:26Yeah. And apparently that was based on the medical profession, the professionals, psychiatrists and
01:33ever at the jail. They made that determination or they concurred. They all concurred with this too.
01:38But like you said, you know, we'll see more as more comes out. But it's still just outrageous that
01:44this magistrate judge would issue an apology from the bench at this point. But let's talk about
01:54that. I do want to talk to you since you Secret Service and you've been involved in the agency about
01:59that evening. And where where do you think now protection has to go from where it's been
02:08or where it traditionally was to where it needs to go now since we've seen three attempts on this
02:18one particular person, this president's life. Is the old playbook still valid?
02:27It's the question everybody's asking. And the way I see the incident is that the Secret Service did
02:32exactly what they were supposed to do. I don't really find any shortcomings in what they did or
02:39the speed they did it in or how they did it. We can always make security of a president better,
02:45though, whether it's through technology, cyber, now drones, which were not there when I was there,
02:51not so much of a threat. But they're going to evaluate what happened. They're going to meet in
02:57a big, tremendous room with a lot of smart people, a lot of experienced people say, hey,
03:01what could we do even better than what we did? And I imagine it could be anything. My suggestion would
03:08be, should we now place some kind of like a cage or a fence behind these things so nobody can
03:14run
03:14through? Just an idea. Would they implement it maybe some other way? It's possible. Or maybe
03:20they had something there. I'm not certain. I have worked at the Washington Hilton while I was in the
03:26Secret Service. And I could tell you it's an immense building. That entrance there seems to be a tradesman
03:32entrance or a guest entrance. So it's not the main entrance. But you can see there's no shortage of
03:39officers and agents there. No shortage of certainly tactical members up on a stage, as well as agents
03:45that protected President Trump. And all the protective details for all the cabinet members
03:50all did what they were supposed to do. It was, quite frankly, textbook overall.
03:56Barry, real quick, what is the protocol? You saw like the agents pulling their weapons,
04:00obviously, there. But if he had gotten into the ballroom and there's a huge crowd of people there,
04:07or like yesterday on the National Mall, when they engaged, what's the protocol there when there's
04:14so many people? I mean, that's a difficult situation to be because there's so many people
04:18who get friendly fire injured. Yeah, every single thing is different. So I can't really answer the
04:25question perfectly specifically, because if he gets in that room, let's just pretend he did. All right,
04:32there's other officers and agents really close to that door. I'm rather certain before anybody from the
04:39inner protective detail would even have to engage him. So it would take an awful lot for him to get
04:45through a lot of agents for what you're seeing on your screen now for the counter assault team with the
04:51rifles there for them to even need to engage. So I think he was still so far away. What you're
04:57seeing on the video
04:58there is a precaution and the movement of the president of the United States being covered
05:02by tactical operators to where if they need to shoot, if they need to engage, you see them in
05:07almost like a skirmish line, and they're ready to go. And I would not want to get in a gunfight
05:12with
05:13them. They are surgical shooters with that rifle as well as their pistols, and they're going to win
05:17the day overall. So if they need to take a shot, they're going to win.
05:22Yep. Thank God for them and what they do. Barry, thank you so much. Appreciate you coming on.
