00:00dinner in D.C. over the weekend to discuss. Let's bring in Barry Donadio, who served in
00:05the Secret Service from 2002 until 2010. Daniel Lipman, he is the White House and Washington
00:12reporter for Politico. And Dwayne Cates, he's a criminal defense attorney as well as a certified
00:17specialist in criminal law. Barry, what do you make of what the White House press secretary
00:24said there about that the president believes that security protocols worked and that the
00:28president was satisfied with the security? They put their lives on the line. But of course,
00:33we're hearing a lot of criticism as well. The suspect wrote himself in his manifesto that he
00:39was shocked at the level of security writing in his manifesto that the level of incompetence is insane.
00:45What do you think, sir? Well, I wouldn't take his words to heart. He's a lunatic that tried to kill
00:51the president with a rifle. So I dismissed those claims based on my experience in service in the
00:56Secret Service. They did everything that they were supposed to do, right down to the checkpoint that
01:02he tried to come through and the officers and agents on the stage. So for me and the rest of
01:08the United States, this is a win for the U.S. Secret Service. And let's not forget, this is not
01:14an easy
01:15job. This is a tough job that all of our officers and agents have to go through every day. They're
01:21not
01:21allowed to fail. They're not allowed to make a mistake. So today they came to the table. They
01:26won. At the end of the day, the Secret Service won. The bad guy lost. And Dwayne, as a criminal
01:32defense attorney, we're hearing a lot of talk about this guy's insane. He's insane. You heard
01:36Caroline Levitt disturbed. But can he be found insane? Can he use that as a defense? We know he's
01:43in court later this afternoon, 145 p.m. Eastern Standard Time. The DOJ holding a press conference
01:48after that. And of course, we'll bring it to you live here on Newsmax. Considering, is a person
01:53insane if they have a methodical plan? I mean, this guy checked in on Friday. He traveled by train
01:59knowing his bags wouldn't be checked. What do you think, sir?
02:09There's two ways that they can use insanity in this case. They can say he's not confident to stand
02:14trial or that he was insane at the time that this happened. Now, everybody that does something like
02:19this has some problems mentally. But the standard for to be found insane is he had to not know right
02:29from wrong. And it's pretty clear from his manifesto and from his statements that he knew, you know,
02:36well, he didn't think it was wrong, but he knew what he was doing and there was no mistake. So
02:41I think
02:41the insanity defense is going to be a little bit tricky in this case.
02:45OK. And Daniel, from a reporting perspective, and you just heard Caroline Levitt talking about
02:52the political rhetoric out there, the reporting itself. George Stephanopoulos, look what happened
02:57with him. Look what he said about the president of the United States. Do you think that the media
03:01will change its its ways? Because at this point, the temperature does need to be dialed down.
03:08I think temporarily things get a little cooler and reporters and even late night hosts at least
03:16sometimes think about what they're going to say a little bit more. But I don't think that this is if
03:21the first two assassination attempts on Trump didn't lead to a change in the dialogues between the media
03:30and Trump and how he is covered, then a failed assassination attempt, it was less serious,
03:38but still, you know, he didn't get as close to the president as the first two. That's not going to
03:44change as well. And so there are ingrained motivations in terms of if you're a left-wing
03:50cable network, you're trying to preach to the choir, keep your audience. And so if you just became a pro
03:57-Trump
03:57network, that's not, you're going to lose all your audience. And so, or even a more centrist network,
04:03that's not going to be, serve your business interests as well. And so it comes kind of down
04:07to money for these outlets. You know, Barry, we saw the president, we saw the vice president,
04:13we saw the secretary of state, the defense secretary, Pete Hegseth, all of them in the same room.
04:18Thank God this guy was not able to get into that ballroom. But if he had a bomb, if he
04:23had a huge
04:24group with him, Chuck Grassley could have potentially been the president right now.
04:28So what do you, what do you think about all of those dignitaries, the designated survivor,
04:35that that protocol wasn't followed here? What do you think about that? Should maybe J.D. Vance
04:39maybe not be in the same room with the president anymore?
04:44No, I really don't think so. I mean, let's just pretend like everybody didn't exist suddenly in
04:50that room. You still have the U.S. Congress and the Senate as a whole. So there won't be a
04:54lack
04:54of leadership. It's not uncommon for the vice president and the president to be in the same
04:59room or the same event and all the dignitaries. And they all have, by the way, their own protective
05:05details. Some of them are secret service details. Some of them are the department that they lead
05:10detail. So they're all quite protected. And the secret service has overall protection of the entire
05:16event. What I'm noticing, though, in a lot in the media, and it started only hours after the
05:21incident, within maybe four hours, news agencies reporting this was a great success for the secret
05:29service. Now the story has become there's been some kind of a failure. I really don't see that.
05:35But the secret service will meet, just like Ms. Levitt said, and I have said before the press
05:40conference, the secret service will assess the situation. They will work to see if there's anything
05:45that they could do better, not for blaming anybody, but for trying to make themselves a
05:50better agency so they can protect the president and their protectees. So you better believe there
05:56may be some additions and corrections that they find from a roundtable discussion that they may apply
06:02to the next event and moving forward from now on.
06:06All right, gentlemen, we're going to leave it right there. Thank you all so much.
