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Florian Schroeder - Kuschelparty
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00:00And I have told you that it is very amusing, and that was it was just now, and it's going
00:05so on.
00:06Are you sure?
00:08Yes, I have a good feeling.
00:10We had already had Marcus Lanz here, but we greet now Florian Schröder, my name and
00:14her.
00:17Have you already been in six years since you've done such things?
00:22Bühlen is at the time in the kitchen, for the mother, have you also had a start, where
00:27you said, how old were you there?
00:29I was about eight or nine, and I started recording recordings, I had a stereo device with two
00:36Kassetten-Decks, and I took recordings of my favorite radio-senders and played my mother
00:43in the background.
00:44I played the original tracks from the cassette, I was the moderator, and she had to listen
00:50and to speak.
00:51And then my mother had the right direction, but when I hear radio, I also speak.
00:56And then I said, that's true, but we are here in the studio, and there is a
00:59quiet room.
01:00And there were some dictatorial sides of me, which were very good therapy through myself.
01:06Yes.
01:07We have also a picture of you as a child, as a child.
01:10Yes.
01:10Now it is a picture of you.
01:12Yes, it is a picture of you.
01:13And you say...
01:15Oh!
01:16Oh!
01:17That is a statue of Florian Schröder.
01:19Well, then we have a picture of you.
01:21That feelings you had to be with.
01:22You said to be a thick Like Camp which I didn't see that.
01:25That could not mark?
01:26No, that wasn't the case.
01:27It came ways.
01:28Right grass.
01:28There you go guys got 100
01:32I had to eat more than at the end of the day.
01:35I had to eat more than at the end of the day.
01:36But you had to do it with weight problems?
01:39Yes, my highlight was with 14 years, 1,83 m and 99 kg.
01:43That was for a 14-year-old.
01:46And it was not so good.
01:50It was not so good.
01:51But I had to describe it myself,
01:53that the wrong thing is for the wrong time.
01:55We are in the fasting time.
01:57Many alcohol, alcohol, social media,
01:59some people make a diet.
02:01You too?
02:02No, not at all.
02:05When it's regulated,
02:08I'm completely out of the way.
02:10I would decide for myself individually.
02:13But I can't start with such phases.
02:16In this sense,
02:18I'm happy to say,
02:22I was just saying,
02:22that the glass was given back.
02:25But you still call yourself as Wagenknecht.
02:29Yes.
02:302a.
02:30Yes, of course.
02:32When you have something like that,
02:33when you have something like that,
02:35and that can only do the people know,
02:38who have something like that,
02:38you have something like that.
02:40Because you always think,
02:42that's what you want to do.
02:43And that's of course quatsch.
02:44Because you decide yourself,
02:46if that happens or not.
02:47And that's why I have to say,
02:50that I,
02:51when I'm in a long time on tour,
02:52I have always a person with it,
02:54to keep it in control.
02:57And that's why I'm a Wagenknecht with 2a.
03:00But you don't see anything like that,
03:01as if you have any problems with it.
03:04That's the paradox.
03:05Because I have the problem with it,
03:08I don't have the problem with it.
03:09Then you would be afraid.
03:10Yes,
03:10but that's not only the Wagenknecht
03:11but that's also a bit of a change.
03:15The new book is about a different topic.
03:18And that's the topic of Glück.
03:20And you yourself say,
03:22that what you call Glück today,
03:25as it is today,
03:26I can actually on Glück verzichten.
03:29Yes,
03:29because what we have today,
03:30is what I call a kind of a Glücksdiktatur.
03:33A bit of a terror.
03:34That's that,
03:35in the end of the year,
03:37everyone is willing to be,
03:38to be happy.
03:40And that everyone wants it,
03:41and that everyone wants to sell it.
03:44That's amazing.
03:44It doesn't involve a statement.
03:48That it's not.
03:49if you are happy,
03:52that you have a good life.
03:53That you have a good life.
03:55If you are happy,
03:58you have a good life,
03:58you are wrong,
03:59you are wrong,
03:59you are wrong,
04:00you are wrong,
04:02you are wrong.
04:03And that's that I call for a very meaningful exercise.
04:06Therefore,
04:07I'd like to look at what we have today
04:10I think that it's a good thing.
04:11I think that it's a good thing.
04:14But you don't say that I'm lucky.
04:18No.
04:19It's not a good thing.
04:20There are people who are unglücklich
04:21and are very happy to be.
04:23They can always be happy.
04:27I think that there is a good thing.
04:29That's not what I'm going to say.
04:31It's a bit complicated.
04:32We'll break it down.
04:33You have a Glücksbringer.
04:35When I go to the tour,
04:37I have a Kette.
04:39It's not the same.
04:40I've never had it.
04:45I have no Talisman.
04:47I don't have anything.
04:48Are you not?
04:49No.
04:50I don't care about it.
04:55I laugh about it.
04:58But I don't care about it.
05:00Did you have a Talisman in the Bundestag?
05:04Not at all?
05:06As a child I was in a Talisman.
05:09I was dealing with a weekly office.
05:12I was like that.
05:13I was like this to all.
05:14I'm talking to him.
05:14I'm talking about that.
05:18I've been talking to him.
05:20I didn't want that to be up.
05:21You didn't want that.
05:24I was going to go out of it.
05:29I have done that in three hours.
05:33I can use it if it doesn't.
05:35It's not that it's not.
05:36Then I thought after three days,
05:38if it's God, you know what I think.
05:40And then he's done it.
05:42And so I heard that.
05:45That was my only Charlie's man.
05:46But I don't know what that was.
05:48How is it as a fireman?
05:49Is there any Glücksbringer there?
05:51No, I don't have any in the service.
05:55I'm going to do it first.
05:56That's important.
05:58That's what I make every morning.
05:59But I don't have any Glücksbringer there.
06:01Rhea, do you?
06:04I don't do it.
06:05But when I'm on tour with TKKG,
06:06we have a tour-Talisman.
06:09This time it was a pyramid.
06:12Sonst comes the Hund Oscar with.
06:14And he's from my daughter.
06:15And I have to bring him heile back home.
06:18And then he's in the washing machine.
06:19And then he'll sleep for the next tour.
06:22So he'll get to sleep.
06:23Now you have the Glück really erforsed.
06:25So you were,
06:26you were,
06:26you were by Esoteric-Messing,
06:29you did live coaching,
06:31you visited a Pornodreh.
06:33I didn't understand what it had to do with Glück.
06:37As Consumant?
06:38Yes.
06:40So you were,
06:40to know if it makes you happy,
06:42if it makes you happy,
06:43or if it makes you happy?
06:44I was,
06:45I was about to say,
06:45because I was about to say,
06:48I was about to say,
06:50because I was about to say,
06:51I've seen a lot of people,
06:54but I've also seen a lot of people.
06:56So,
06:57I was about to say,
06:59a Domina,
07:01it was a BDSM-Porn,
07:03a Amateur-Porn,
07:05and the Domina is a trans-frau.
07:09that's,
07:10she produces a Pornos
07:12for the Zielgruppe,
07:14which stands for trans-people.
07:16So,
07:17and she was about a man,
07:23We are going to talk about pornography, BDSM.
07:24We have met with her and she has been able to follow her.
07:32You were also in a way with a course with a 5.000 Euro?
07:35What happened?
07:37Live coaching is about five days in an event hall.
07:43There one is on the screen, who tells you how to be glad.
07:46You can visit several workshops.
07:51It's a very strange business.
07:53It's called Scientology and Ku Klux Klan.
07:57It's called Psycho-Sekten.
08:00You pay a lot of money.
08:04You are an Opfer.
08:08You should be a new identity.
08:14If you don't do it,
08:15you can't do it.
08:18You can have many Coachings.
08:21There's a clock on the clock.
08:24You go to the screen and tell them,
08:26the Matze has bought some coaching.
08:29You have to buy that XY Coaching.
08:32So you can't do it anymore.
08:35That's like a Schneeball.
08:38The people are the people with Sekten.
08:42because they have solved the Sekten.
08:45That's what Scientology was, is today live coaching.
08:49And the people go to thousands of times.
08:51But before you ask...
08:54That are so gurus, who would tell people how to be successful?
08:59Yes.
09:00Erfolgreich, glücklich, there is everything there.
09:02You can also do marketing coaching, finance coaching.
09:08That's crazy.
09:09There was a lot of people who called Chakka rief.
09:14That was a military event.
09:19That's what they did.
09:22And now it's in the mass.
09:25The people who sat around me were in crisis.
09:29They wanted to change their life.
09:32And it was said, you can be coached.
09:34And you can do that.
09:37And that's not everyone.
09:39That's very clear.
09:40But it's a promise of help,
09:43which is not possible in this way.
09:45And I describe as a last sentence,
09:46also in the book,
09:47really hard scenes,
09:49where the coach speaks with a woman,
09:51who has a sexuelle Missbrauch,
09:55who has a lot of people
09:56who have a lot of people
09:57who have a lot of education.
09:59And it's really shocking,
10:01the people who have been there
10:03in the hands of the Scheinbahnhilfe.
10:06But,
10:07it's been true.
10:08Dear Florian,
10:09we built behind you two Matratzen
10:11because it's another topic,
10:13which I personally find very exciting.
10:15And you have already seen a very good
10:17in your work.
10:18Two years of research.
10:19And you have also
10:20a so-called Kuschel-Seminar
10:23visited.
10:24Yes, exactly.
10:24A Kuschel-Party.
10:25Eine Kuschel-Party.
10:26Richtig.
10:26So, und du erklärst mir jetzt bitte mal,
10:29wie das mit dieser Kuschel-Party
10:30seinerzeit funktioniert hat.
10:31Sehr gerne.
10:32Ich gehe mit dir kuscheln,
10:33wenn du mir sagst,
10:34was hast du dort erlebt,
10:36was hat man dir beigebracht,
10:37was konntest du lernen?
10:38Sehr viel.
10:39Also bei einer Kuschel-Party,
10:40das gibt es in fast jeder Stadt,
10:42da trifft man sich abends,
10:43da sind dann vielleicht 30 Leute
10:45und am Anfang unterhält man sich
10:48und dann wird einem klar gemacht
10:50und das ist tatsächlich gar nicht schlecht,
10:53wie man beispielsweise,
10:54wenn man berührt wird,
10:55also man muss wissen,
10:56Kuschel-Party ist völlig asexuell,
10:57alle bleiben angezogen,
10:59da passiert nichts Sexuelles.
11:01Also das ist nicht so ein Florian?
11:03Nein, gar nicht.
11:04Pass auf.
11:05Und tatsächlich ist das sehr interessant,
11:07weil du lernst viel.
11:08Und das erste,
11:08was du lernst, ist Distanz.
11:11Und zwar wie lehnst du eine Hand ab,
11:13die dich berührt,
11:14von der du aber nicht berührt werden willst.
11:16Das kann ja fast keiner,
11:18weil jeder denkt ja,
11:19oh Gott, wenn du mich jetzt berührst
11:20und ich will das nicht.
11:21Können wir uns aber hinlegen,
11:22das machen wir danach.
11:23So, wie lehnt man das ab,
11:25ohne den anderen zu verletzen?
11:26Und so, das lernst du dann.
11:27Also wenn ich dich berühre,
11:28berühre mich mal,
11:29wenn ich das nicht will,
11:31dann gucke ich,
11:31bleib jetzt mal da
11:33und so mal ein bisschen,
11:33ja mit Nachdruck.
11:35Natürlich.
11:35Florian.
11:35Und dann guckt man sich an,
11:37dann gucke ich dich an
11:38und nehme die Hand vorsichtig weg,
11:40halte den Blick und zeige dir,
11:42das ist nicht gegen dich,
11:43aber ich möchte jetzt deine Hand nicht.
11:45So, der nächste Schritt ist jetzt,
11:47wenn man ans Kuscheln kommt.
11:49Und das Kuscheln ist dann so,
11:49es liegen alle auf Matratzen,
11:51so wie hier.
11:52Wir legen uns jetzt mal hin, Matze.
11:53Du legst dich bitte mal hin.
11:54Selbstverständlich.
11:55So, ich komme zu dir.
11:55Herr Gysi, haben Sie Lust irgendwie?
11:57Nein, nein, nein.
11:57So.
11:59Es ist ja nur ein Termin.
12:01Es ist nur ein Termin.
12:02Und Sie können auch links und rechts gucken,
12:03was so passiert.
12:04Ja, wir können ja über King Ping Mee sprechen.
12:07Ich lege mich hin.
12:08So, du legst dich hin.
12:09Und wenn ich jetzt mit dir kuscheln möchte,
12:12dann geht es natürlich wieder,
12:14du kannst mich ablehnen.
12:15Warum legst du dich?
12:15So, legst du dich auf die Seite.
12:18Und jetzt hast du wieder die Chance,
12:20mich abzulehnen.
12:21Weil du denkst, ah, ekliger Kerl und so.
12:23Und jetzt lege ich mich natürlich,
12:24wenn ich jetzt kuscheln möchte,
12:25lege ich mich hinter dich.
12:26Ja.
12:27Ganz vorsichtig.
12:28Herr Lanz.
12:30Herr Lanz, bitte nicht so nah.
12:32Und ich mache das als Herr Markus Lanz.
12:35Aha.
12:36Und denke, der Knob.
12:37Aha.
12:37Aha.
12:38Aha.
12:38Will ich mal nachhaken?
12:41Das ist der Beckenbauer.
12:42So.
12:42Und dann berühre ich dich sanft
12:45und lege mich zu dir.
12:46Okay.
12:47Du lehnst mich jetzt nicht ab,
12:48also kann ich jetzt zu dir liegen.
12:49So.
12:49Und dann liegst du da zum Teil wirklich
12:51anderthalb Stunden,
12:52liegst du einfach nur da
12:52und suchst noch eine Viererkette,
12:54wo du dich ranlegen kannst.
12:55Und dann sagt dir aber,
12:58die Chefin der Kuschelparty sagt dir dann Sätze wie,
13:01du bist jetzt eingeladen, dich da hinzulegen.
13:04Also ich war noch nie an einem Abend so oft eingeladen
13:06wie bei dieser Kuschelparty.
13:07Ich war eingeladen eine Pause zu machen,
13:09ich war eingeladen wieder zu gehen.
13:10Also es ist wirklich so,
13:12du hast das Gefühl,
13:13das ist ein Meer von rosa-rotem Plüsch.
13:18Aber für mich war es ziemlich anstrengend.
13:20Aber ist der, der hinter dir liegt,
13:21redet der dann auch so viel wie du?
13:22Oder ist das...
13:24Halt die Fresse!
13:25Oder ist das eher still und leise?
13:27Das ist still!
13:28Man redet nicht!
13:28Aber du willst es ja erklärt haben!
13:30Entschuldige bitte!
13:31Ich muss ja reden!
13:32Florian, was kostet denn diese Kuschelparty?
13:3412 Euro!
13:36Geil, ne?
13:37Kann sich jeder leisten!
13:38Und Bitt bringt vielleicht mehr als ein Live-Coaching!
13:41Außer mein Dick hinter Matze!
13:43Und jetzt kommt das Verrückte, Florian,
13:44zwei Drittel davon sind Männer,
13:47ist das richtig?
13:47Als ich da war, ja.
13:49Aber da ist ja nicht sexuell,
13:50das ist ja egal.
13:51Aber mir fiel es wahnsinnig schwer,
13:53so eine Emotionalität oder so eine Nähe herzustellen zu Menschen.
13:57Bülen, kannst du dich auch noch eins sagen?
13:58Bülen machen!
14:00Bülen!
14:05Bülen!
14:07Bülen!
14:07Bülen!
14:08Bülen!
14:09Kann ich da zwischendrin liegen?
14:10Kann ich da zwischendrin liegen?
14:13Von dir lasse ich mich bekuscheln, Bülen!
14:14Aber ich würde ganz zwischendrin liegen!
14:16Mit dir würde ich lieber BDSM machen,
14:18muss ich dazu sagen!
14:19Das ist Pornodreh!
14:21Das ist die andere Nummer!
14:22Er hat es nicht verstanden!
14:24So?
14:24Kim?
14:25Ja, so!
14:26Er ist jetzt sehr intensiv für eine Kuschelparty,
14:28aber du fühlst dich gut an!
14:30Er fühlt sich besser an als du, Matze!
14:31Ja!
14:32Ich bin ja auch der Moderator!
14:33Ich bin ja auch der Moderator!
14:34Darf man auch so streichen?
14:35Ja, natürlich!
14:37Ach guck mal, der Bülen bringt den hier ohne Tatsch rein!
14:39Merkst du das?
14:41Ich muss da nicht hin, ich leg mich da nicht hin!
14:43Herr Gysi!
14:44Bitte!
14:45Sie müssen kommen!
14:45So!
14:47Herr Gysi!
14:51Herr Gysi!
14:54Warte!
14:55Herr Gysi!
14:56Herr Gysi!
14:57Herr Gysi!
14:57Herr Gysi!
14:58Warte!
14:59Ich dachte,
14:59Herr Wartensicht im Bundestag!
15:01Aber darfst du einmal so?
15:03Ich wollte Sie schon immer kuscheln!
15:09Großer Applaus erstmal für Florian Schönau und für Bülent Schönau.
15:19In den 90ern habe ich mir nicht nur die Bundestagsdebatten mit Herrn Gysi angeguckt,
15:25ich habe dann später in irgendeiner Talkshow eine Kuh melken sehen.
15:29Da habe ich gedacht, Politik ist doch nicht so mein Ding, aber das heute hat alles getoppt.
15:34Ich sage es mal so, wenn wir es damit nicht zu rap schaffen, dann nur, weil Gysi nicht dabei war.
15:39Ja, also wir müssten eigentlich noch ein bisschen weiter sprechen.
15:42Du hast noch einen LSD-Trip durchgezogen und so, finde ich hochspannend.
15:47Aber wer da ein bisschen mehr darüber wissen möchte, der sollte sich dein Buch kaufen,
15:51es heißt Happy End und du beschäftigst dich mit Glück und er hat mir wirklich von diesem Trip vor der
15:57Show was erzählt.
15:58Es lohnt sich auf jeden Fall nachzulesen, was da passiert ist. Du bleibst auf jeden Fall noch hier.
16:02Großer Applaus für Florian Schröder.
16:04Applaus
16:07Vielen Dank.
16:09Vielen Dank.
16:09Vielen Dank.
16:09Vielen Dank.
16:09Vielen Dank.
16:10Vielen Dank.
16:10Vielen Dank.
16:10Vielen Dank.
16:10Vielen Dank.
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