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Former Redskins TE Logan Paulsen joins G&D to give some of his final draft predictions for the Commanders.
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00:00Let's go to the RUDE guest hotline.
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00:04Talk to our pal, Logan Paulson, has been working hard on his big board
00:09about Thursday night's NFL draft.
00:11Logan, is your big board done yet?
00:14Yeah, I just finished it.
00:16I had to put it in last night, and old Zach Selby, the staff writer,
00:20put it on the website today, so it should be up.
00:22Everyone should be able to look at it.
00:23It's at commanders.com, so that should be exciting.
00:26Everyone let me know what you think.
00:27Actually, don't.
00:28Just comment on the website.
00:29Yeah, that's good.
00:30Yeah.
00:32Who are, in your mind, the best players in this draft?
00:35The best players in this draft, so my top three players are Jeremiah Love,
00:40Sonny Stiles, and Fernando Mendoza.
00:41He gets a little bit of a bump for the quarterback,
00:43but those are my top three players in the class.
00:45And just for point of clarification, if not for the QB bump,
00:49let's take Mendoza out of it.
00:50Who would be third non-quarterback?
00:52David Bailey.
00:54Okay, so let's start with Love.
00:56The opposite of a quarterback bump, I guess, would be a running back push down the board
01:01or something.
01:01Yeah, the running back weighted running back, yeah.
01:03How good is he really?
01:04A running back minus.
01:04Yeah, exactly.
01:05How good is he?
01:06I mean, he's the best player.
01:07He's the best football player in the draft class.
01:09I think when you look at him, like, there's just, we've talked about this on the Take Command
01:12podcast.
01:13There aren't a lot of questions about him as a player.
01:14I think he's got the home run ability.
01:16I think he's good in the pass game.
01:18He's good as a pass protector.
01:19He catches the football well.
01:20I think he does well through contact balance.
01:23I think, obviously, those are those iconic runs from Penn State two years ago.
01:27He's got a great one versus Miami.
01:28It's a three-yard gain.
01:29But his ability to get his shoulders square, break tackles, keep his feet.
01:35Like, I mean, he's got everything you want.
01:37And I think that consistency of play over the last two seasons, the durability, again,
01:41the explosive playmaking ability, just, I mean, there's not a lot of questions.
01:45And, yeah, he does play running back, but I want good football players, and I think he's
01:49a heck of a football player.
01:50So compare him to the last guy they got taken in the top five at running back, Saquon Barkley
01:55in 18, or, you know, the other two that are explosive, recent top-of-the-board picks,
02:01B. John Robinson, Atlanta, Jameer Gibbs, Detroit.
02:05Yeah, so I think with, he kind of, man, like, there's a little bit of Gibbs to his
02:11game in terms of, like, his running style.
02:13He's kind of got this kind of narrow track kind of base to him.
02:17I think B. John's a little bit more laterally shifty.
02:19I think his vision's, like, just that's his elite trade.
02:22He's special in that regard in terms of making people miss.
02:25But I do think that home run ability just, like, it makes you think of Gibbs.
02:30And I think with, like, Gentie, for example, that contact balance, I think there's a touch
02:34of that in what you see from Jeremiah Love, right?
02:37His ability to break tackles, run people over.
02:40Gibbs has grown into that player.
02:42That was not a defining feature of Robinson when he came out.
02:45But I think that's something that Love brings that maybe those other top-flight backs haven't
02:49had in the last couple of years.
02:51So is there a scheme that he might fit better in?
02:54Like, I'm thinking zone-blocking scheme, Shanahan one-cut system, power.
02:57And is there something where you'd go, this is a team that runs a certain subset of things
03:02that he would be an even better fit in?
03:04Yeah, I mean, I personally would love to see him in, like, an outside zone scheme,
03:07kind of like some of the runs that you see Derek Henry run in the last couple of years,
03:11some of the stuff you see with Jameer Gibbs, like, where they're able to kind of stretch
03:15the defense towards linefully, the defense over-pursues.
03:18They will stick their foot in the ground and just hit it downhill, going 1,000 miles an hour.
03:22But I think that's the fun thing about Jeremiah Love is I do think there is a lot of flexibility
03:27in terms of where he, what he can do, because his vision is so solid.
03:33Again, maybe not as good as, like, Robinson from a couple of years ago, but I do think, like,
03:39he's very, very good.
03:40I think he's got a good feel for runs.
03:42He's got good patience.
03:43So to me, he's scheme agnostic.
03:45I would personally like to see him in an outside zone scheme, however.
03:48So I think back years ago, Logan, to Reggie Bush coming out of school.
03:51Now, this is obviously a different player.
03:53Talking about Love, I think there's a lot more power between the tackles type stuff.
03:56But the consensus was at the time that Reggie Bush is so dynamic as a receiver that you're
04:01not just drafting a running back.
04:02And that's kind of what I hear ascribed to Love an awful lot.
04:05Going to that part of it as, okay, if we like the matchup, we'll put him in the slot.
04:09We'll put him in motion.
04:10Or he really is a receiver.
04:11Not as prolific at Notre Dame.
04:12But how do you see that part of his game?
04:15Yeah, I think a better comparison would be, like, a Christian McCaffrey in terms of, like,
04:18utilization.
04:19And so, again, like, when you're in 21 personnel, like, so, tight end, two backs, or even 12
04:25personnel, 21 or 22 personnel is probably a better example.
04:28Because you're going to get a base response from the defense.
04:30You're going to get four down linemen.
04:32You're going to get three linebackers.
04:33You're going to get two safeties.
04:34And if you can draw that matchup defensively or as an offense, like, that means that if
04:40you were to line up Jeremiah Love in the slot, for example, he's going to be covered by
04:43a linebacker.
04:44And that is a matchup that he can win.
04:46He can win it vertically down the seam.
04:48I think he's got enough studness in the short area to win on a choice.
04:51And when you look at, like, how Kyle Shanahan deploys Christian McCaffrey, he deploys him
04:55in those types of matchups.
04:57And so, again, he would still be playing running back technically.
05:00But, again, offensive football in 2025, 2026 is all about finding those advantageous matchups.
05:06And I do think that Jeremiah Love allows an offensive coordinator with great foresight
05:12to find some of those easy buttons for the quarterback, for the offense, by finding good
05:17matchups.
05:18And I think his skill set and his twitch, I'm Jeremiah Love, I'm talking about, allows you
05:22to get some of that stuff done.
05:24Logan Paulson on the draft.
05:27Let's say, well, first, before we move on from Love, do you think he's going to be there
05:32when Washington picks at seven?
05:33No, I don't.
05:35I think as we get closer and closer to the draft, like, he's the best player in the draft,
05:40in my opinion.
05:41Like, he's going to go.
05:42Someone's going to take a shot on him, whether it's Tennessee, whether it's Arizona, whether
05:46it's New York.
05:47I just think there's too many teams that are going to recognize his talent.
05:50And I think it's very unlikely that he gets to Washington at seven.
05:53All right, so then let's move down your big board, then.
05:57So you had Love, one.
05:58At number two, you went with Sonny Stiles.
06:01Same question for him, because I feel like if he's there at seven, he'll be the commander's
06:06pick, and they won't think twice about it.
06:08But it's been unlikely the whole time that he was going to get there.
06:11The momentum's kind of opposite Love, though.
06:13Whereas it seems more and more likely that Love goes before Washington, there's some whispers
06:18that maybe Stiles, as an inside linebacker, gets pushed down a couple more picks.
06:23So I was all about that.
06:24I thought, oh, you know, like, the New York Giants are going to go offensive line.
06:28Cleveland's going to go offensive line.
06:29If that's the case, then Stiles is going to be the odd man out.
06:32He'll be sitting there nice and pretty for Washington at seven.
06:35However, I think now with the fact that this Dexter Lawrence trade and the fact that the
06:40Giants, excuse me, have another pick in the top ten, the pick ten, I think that they
06:45could be more flexible with five, and I think they're going to be really aggressive to
06:48get one of the better defensive players in the draft, especially losing Dexter Lawrence.
06:51I think Sonny Stiles is going to be their pick, because I do think there will be an offensive
06:55tackle there at ten when they're picking again.
06:57So now they can kind of have their cake and eat it, too.
07:00And so I think, again, this becomes kind of an unfortunate circumstance for Washington,
07:05because I don't think Stiles ends up making it down to seven any longer.
07:10Let's go to David Bailey, the guy that you've got ranked fourth.
07:13That includes Fernando Mendoza.
07:15I love him.
07:16He's, again, I'm a Rue, but I can watch a Texas Tech game and right away go, oh, that's
07:20somebody we need to pay attention to him.
07:22Seems to be to have the entire package at this point.
07:24Where do you have him maybe compared to Reese?
07:26Do you buy the notion that maybe Reese has a higher upside, but, you know, Bailey's maybe
07:30a higher floor, or is there maybe more in the tank there?
07:33Just kind of going to what you see in David Bailey.
07:35Yeah, for me, I have David Bailey with a slightly higher grade than Arvel Reese.
07:39That's not a knock on Arvel Reese.
07:40I think he's a very good football player.
07:41I just have a hard time, you know, projecting players to new spots.
07:44Like, with David Bailey, like you were talking about, Danny, like, you've seen him.
07:48Like, you've seen him get 15 sacks.
07:50You've seen him get over 70 pressures.
07:51You've seen him have 19 TFLs.
07:53Like, you've seen that production.
07:55You've seen him get good offensive tackles at the college level.
07:59Absolute fits.
07:59And people are going to kind of nitpick this and be like, oh, he's only a speed rusher.
08:02He doesn't have elite power.
08:03He can't play the run well.
08:04You know, you don't get 19 tackles for a loss if you're not playing the run at some point,
08:08right?
08:08And again, he is a little bit of a boom and bust prospect for that kind of, for the NFL.
08:13But I think there's something there.
08:14He's got good length.
08:15He's got good weight and mass to him.
08:17So, to me, like, it's kind of straight up.
08:20And Arbel Reese is strong.
08:21He's powerful.
08:22But you are, if you are projecting the edge, which I am, like, you haven't seen him do
08:26a lot of the edge things.
08:28You haven't seen him rush more than 10 times in a game as an on-ball player.
08:32Obviously, you've seen him blitz and do some of those other things.
08:34So, I think that's where, for me, the difference is.
08:37One, I feel like I know.
08:38I've seen it.
08:39You can do it at a high level.
08:40The other one is a freak athlete.
08:42And I understand why the Jets might be enticed to take him at two.
08:45But also, like, I, again, there is a projection to that skill set to the NFL game.
08:50Logan Paulson, I do take command with Logan three times a week, dropping Monday, Wednesday,
08:55Friday, deep dives, X's and O's, and a lot of draft content this time of year.
09:00Logan, I was stunned.
09:01Based on all of our conversations on take command, I kind of feel like I know where you
09:06would have ranked everybody.
09:07But you had Caleb Downs higher than I would have thought.
09:09And it's not higher than a lot of people have him.
09:11You have him fifth, the safety from Ohio State.
09:13But you have been a little lower on him as an overall prospect, it feels like, than the
09:18industry for much of the time leading up to the draft.
09:21How did he work his way into your top five on your big board?
09:24Shoot, man.
09:25Like, I just kind of went back.
09:26This was a tough, you know, sometimes the big board kind of does itself.
09:29Like, I've got really strong conviction on a lot of players.
09:31And this one, it was close.
09:32And so, ultimately, like, I went back and just watched, like, three or four games.
09:35And I was like, this dude is maybe the second best football player in the class.
09:40The questions we have about him are his height, weight, and speed.
09:44But the instincts, the football IQ, the physical toughness are all there.
09:47And I think he's going to be a heck of a pro.
09:49And so, ultimately, like I just said, like, I'm going to trust the tape over the lack of
09:54physical measurements that we have.
09:56And just trust my gut on this one a little bit.
09:58And, again, like, I don't do that with every player.
10:01But with him, the tape is just that good.
10:03You know, it's just so fun to watch him against Miami in the national championship game
10:07or whatever it was, the semifinal game.
10:08Like, where he's, like, hitting receivers.
10:10The ball's coming out.
10:11He's making plays on the football.
10:13He's in the run fit.
10:13He's in coverage.
10:15I mean, he just does everything.
10:16And I'm like, that is a NFL football player.
10:18So, that's ultimately where I settled on him.
10:20And, again, like, he's in that kind of second tier for me.
10:23So, kind of very similar grade to David Bailey, Arvell Reese, and Mansour Delaney.
10:27I think all those guys are really, really good.
10:29And they just, depending on team needs, like, they could go in any order,
10:32kind of in that between four and seven.
10:35So, Logan, go back a handful of years ago to, gosh, what would it have been?
10:38I think it's 2022, if I've got my years right.
10:41No quarterbacks up at the top of that board.
10:43It's the Trayvon Walker, Aiden Hutchinson, Derek Stingley, Sauce Gardner, Kayvon Thibodeau.
10:47Top five all defensive players.
10:49And it reminds me of this year where the best players, non-Fernando Mendoza division,
10:53are all defensive guys.
10:54And it leads me to my question.
10:56Why isn't Mansour Delaney up in that top couple range where Stingley and Sauce Gardner were?
11:04Because the question, and you even put this here in your ranking, the only question was speed.
11:08Sorry about that mid-4, 340.
11:10Like, there are no questions anymore.
11:12Like, this dude is awesome, and yet it's like, yeah, maybe around 10.
11:15There's something that I'm missing here.
11:17Yeah, so, I mean, to me, like, he's in that second tier of players.
11:21So, I think he goes high as four.
11:22And, again, that would kind of be in your range there for Stingley.
11:25Or he goes low as seven.
11:26Obviously, when you number him out, he's the seventh guy.
11:29I think, for me, that only comes down to, like, a personal bias.
11:31I just have a hard time with corners in general, just because, like, there's so few snaps.
11:35Obviously, Mansour Delaney, like, at Virginia Tech, played a different scheme they did at LSU.
11:39There's a lot of flexibility.
11:41The cover three, the man instincts, the competitiveness when the ball's in the air,
11:44the feel when the ball's in the air.
11:45Like, I think it's all there.
11:47This is more of a reflection of me and my evaluation skills.
11:50Like, I've always been a little bit up and down on corners.
11:53I think he's a heck of a prospect.
11:54I just am saying, like, I think it's harder to evaluate corners.
11:57That's really all this is.
11:58Like, but I do think, to your point, like, what was that?
12:01Would you say, 2022?
12:0222, yeah.
12:03Was that the year?
12:04Yeah, like, I think he's in kind of that same pantheon of guy.
12:06I think maybe the length shows up a little bit for me at times.
12:10Not devastatingly.
12:11And I think he overcomes it fine.
12:12But if you're looking for a nit to pick, maybe that's the one you look at.
12:16Logan Paulson, big board is out.
12:18You check it out on commanders.com.
12:21Let's go down to the end of the top ten for you in Reuben Bain Jr.
12:25He has been all over the place in different mocks over the last month.
12:29There's probably not a more polarizing player in this draft right now
12:32because of the length of his arms and then, more recently,
12:36some of the red flag questions that were raised with his past.
12:40First, your thoughts on Bain.
12:42And second, where do you actually think he comes off the board?
12:46Yeah, Reuben Bain's going to be tough.
12:48I think, so I'll just tell you what I think about him.
12:50I think he's a really high floor player.
12:53And I think he plays really hard.
12:54I think he's got better bend than people think.
12:56I think he uses his hands really, really well.
12:58I think you can see him shock tackles, shock tight ends.
13:01I think he understands how to shed.
13:03Like, just does that play.
13:04And this is the thing everyone gives me a lot of time.
13:06He's never been an overly productive, you know,
13:09pass rush specialist in college, right?
13:11Like he said, I think he had five sacks.
13:14I don't remember exactly.
13:15Five sacks in the regular season last year,
13:17which isn't like an overwhelming number.
13:18I think he's just a very good football player.
13:21And to me, like, if you're going to come in with the right mindset,
13:24the right physicality, and play with your hair on fire the way he does,
13:28I think he's just a safe bet.
13:30And so that's, to me, why he's in this third tier of prospect,
13:33which kind of, to me, could go anywhere between 14 and 8.
13:36And so, like, if he went at 14, I wouldn't be surprised.
13:39If he went at 8, that's maybe a little rich for my blood,
13:42but it wouldn't surprise me.
13:43So I think that's a good range for him.
13:45Because, again, there are questions about his physical stature
13:49and some of the off-field stuff that I think are going to push him down
13:52boards a little bit.
13:53Logan Paulson, breaking down the draft with us here.
13:55On the program, going to the offensive lineman, if you wouldn't mind, Logan,
13:59this is an interesting year as well.
14:00I think we're going to get our requisite number of guys, five or six,
14:03maybe even more in that first round.
14:05But it's not like it's Trent Williams.
14:08It's not, you know, Jordan Mailata.
14:09It's not like the bookend left tackles.
14:10It's a little bit of variance there.
14:12How do you have those guys kind of classified?
14:15Yeah, this was a tough year for me because I kind of went just in terms of
14:18players I thought were the most consistent,
14:19and they're up higher on the board, right?
14:21So, Francis, now we know, I think, is one of the more consistent players.
14:24He's in the third tier for me because, again, like there's some questions
14:26about whether he can actually play tackle in the league.
14:28It's a little top-heavy, you know, kind of a – definitely a guard build
14:32playing tackle.
14:33I'd give him a shot at it.
14:35You know, obviously the next offensive lineman is Vanga Ione.
14:37I think he is about as safe a bet as you could possibly have.
14:40And then you get down to 13, you've got Spencer Fano,
14:42who is this kid from Utah who is a freak athlete.
14:45But when you're watching the Utah tape, like they run the ball about 60% of the time.
14:49So, in terms of true pass sets, in terms of, you know,
14:52times where there's not a tight end or a chip help
14:54or just a presence there next to him, it's really hard.
14:57So, you're kind of betting on the upside.
14:58He's a guy that I think could kind of progress the guard.
15:00I think it gets really interesting in terms of tackle projection
15:03when you get down into, like, the 22, 23, 21 range
15:07with Caleb Proctor, Monroe Freeling, and Max Van Ankor.
15:10They are guys that are traits-y.
15:12They have the requisite length.
15:13They have the requisite athleticism.
15:15And they have the requisite size.
15:16And to me, those feel like lottery tickets.
15:18So, I could definitely see those players going much higher.
15:21I could also see them going much lower
15:23because there's a lot of inconsistencies to the tape.
15:25But, as you know, we've covered enough drafts.
15:27Like, those guys are going to go
15:29because you can't find guys on this planet
15:31who move and have the physical measurements that those guys have.
15:35So, to me, that's where it gets really interesting.
15:38And, you know, I could see one of those guys going as high as 6.
15:41That would be way too high for me.
15:42But I could also see them going in the second round.
15:44So, Logan Paulson breaking down the early part of the first round
15:49in the NFL draft.
15:50So, I'm going to ask you to speculate here.
15:52I know this is borderline impossible.
15:53But I just want to know what you would think.
15:55So, put yourself in Adam Peters' shoes.
15:58What do you think he would love?
16:01What do you think he would like?
16:03And then what do you think he would view as, like, disappointing at 7?
16:06So, let's do this exercise here.
16:08Adam Peters would love what to happen in the top 6.
16:12I think he would love it if David Bailey slipped to 7.
16:14David Bailey or Sonny Stiles.
16:16I think either one of those guys he'd be absolutely just in heaven with, right?
16:20I think David Bailey, we talked about the upside.
16:22I think there is a world where that happens.
16:23It's a very small percentage, but I think there is a world where that happens.
16:25And, obviously, if Sonny Stiles makes it down there,
16:28I think both those guys are defensive pieces, game changers.
16:32I think he'd be just on cloud nine with that.
16:34All right.
16:35What would he really like, maybe the next tier down from that?
16:38I think he would really, really like it if Jeremiah Love was there.
16:42I think, you know, obviously, drafting a running back in the top 10
16:44is probably not ideal.
16:45He does use analytics quite a bit to make his decisions.
16:49But I think, again, like we talked about,
16:51he's the best football player in this draft class.
16:53And I think he'd also like it if Mansour Delaney was there.
16:55Like, we just talked about how consistent he is.
16:57You know, Danny brought up the comparisons to Stingley
16:59and some of these other players.
17:00I think both those players would be excellent for this team there
17:04in terms of love and, like...
17:07I can't see any reason why Mansour Delaney wouldn't be there
17:10based on everything we've heard.
17:12I personally think he's going to be the pick there.
17:13That's where I'm at at the moment.
17:15All right.
17:15So I want to double-click on that in a second.
17:17But then the last one would be,
17:18if what happens in the top six,
17:21Peter's in the war rooms going,
17:22all right, it just wasn't our day.
17:24You know, we didn't get lucky here.
17:26Yeah.
17:27So I think, obviously, like,
17:29I know people are getting really excited about Carnell Tate,
17:31but I do...
17:31I like Carnell Tate.
17:33I think he's a fine football player.
17:34I think he's a good kind of two-receiver in the league.
17:36I think that's the moment,
17:38like, with that kind of player on the board
17:39or Reuben Bain on the board
17:41or even Caleb Downs to a certain extent.
17:43Like, obviously, I think...
17:44You know how I feel about Caleb Downs.
17:47But I think if one of those three guys is on the board,
17:49you're probably not devastated,
17:51but you're definitely looking for calls
17:53to see if anybody wants to trade up.
17:54And I think that's the distinction between guys you like,
17:57guys you love,
17:58and then guys you're thinking about
17:59maybe trading out the spot for.
18:00This is always so hard to answer, Logan,
18:02because obviously we don't know the minds
18:03of all the GMs and decision makers
18:05of all these teams around the league.
18:06But are there guys here that are trade-up worthy
18:09for somebody else moving, you know,
18:11giving up future picks and extra things
18:13that Washington could move back?
18:14That's the...
18:15Every time I talk about myself
18:16or talk myself into a scenario,
18:18it's always, yeah, but who's being traded up for,
18:21if that makes sense?
18:22So, you know, we had Jeremy Green
18:24on the Take a Man podcast,
18:25and he is a huge fan of the Jets.
18:27He's pretty well connected in the room.
18:29And, you know, one of the things he said
18:30is, like, they're kind of starting
18:31to talk themselves into loving Carnell Tate.
18:34And so if you think Carnell Tate
18:36is a difference-making wide receiver,
18:38which the commanders might feel that way as well,
18:40I don't know for sure.
18:41I'm just kind of giving you my opinion on the pick.
18:43Like, I would definitely look at that call
18:45and look at the compensation
18:46and be like, if they're willing to trade up,
18:48we're willing to trade back to 16
18:50and pick up a second-round pick
18:52and then draft our receiver with that,
18:54whatever pick they have in the second round.
18:55You mentioned a couple answers ago
18:57that you're starting to kind of close in
18:59on feeling like Mansoor Delaney
19:01is going to be Washington's pick.
19:03Is that just because you're the most confident
19:05that he'll be there among the guys
19:07that you think would make a lot of sense?
19:09Yeah, so of those top seven guys that I listed,
19:12like, I think he's got the most likely chance
19:15of being there for sure.
19:16So there was a period of time
19:17where I thought Arizona might take an offensive lineman.
19:19I think that's going to be Jeremiah Love
19:21unless they trade out of the pick.
19:22But even if they do trade out of the pick,
19:24I think someone's trading up
19:25to take Arbel Reese, Jeremiah Love, David Bailey.
19:28Like, I think that's how that's going to go.
19:30Then I thought, oh, you know,
19:31New York has to take an offensive lineman
19:34to short that thing up for Jackson Dart.
19:35They can now get that at 10.
19:37I think they go Sonny Stiles.
19:38And I think if there's any chance
19:40that David Bailey, Sonny Stiles,
19:44Arbel Reese is there at six,
19:46I think Dallas would trade up with Cleveland
19:47because I think Cleveland desperately wants to trade back
19:49to pick up one of those super-tracy tackles
19:51that we just talked about.
19:52Proctor, Freeling, Ian Angkor, right?
19:54So if that's the case,
19:56that's the best opportunity for Cleveland
19:58and Dallas gets a defensive difference maker.
20:01If you do the math after that,
20:03the player that is remaining is Mansoor Delane.
20:06And I think the Commanders fans should be ecstatic
20:08if that does happen
20:08because I do think he's a difference maker
20:10at the position.
20:11The one thing that I've said consistently about him,
20:16as much as I like the prospect,
20:18is that Durante Jones' defenses
20:21don't really ask a ton out of the corner position,
20:24which shouldn't be a deal-breaker to not draft one.
20:27But that's the beauty of the scheme they're running.
20:29Like, I remember in free agency,
20:30you and I were talking to people
20:32and kind of heard the same thing,
20:33which was it would make no sense
20:35for them to spend a lot at corner.
20:36Why is that different in terms of the draft
20:39than taking a guy in the top 10?
20:41I think it just goes back to draft grade.
20:43And this is where, like, you know,
20:45we don't know the minds of the GM.
20:46I have no inside baseball in this.
20:48I'm just assuming,
20:49based on the board that I've laid out,
20:51that at this point,
20:52the best player available
20:53and that fits a need for Washington
20:56that's not an offensive lineman
20:58is, again, Delane, Mansoor Delane.
21:00And so that's where it comes into, like,
21:02this idea of drafting best player available.
21:05Obviously, like, these guys are tiered out
21:06in a specific way with, you know,
21:08David Bailey, Caleb Downs,
21:09Arbel Reese, Mansoor Delane
21:10in the same tier.
21:11I think a lot of those guys
21:13are going to be gone off the board.
21:14And so the guy that's remaining
21:15is Mansoor Delane.
21:17And I think, like,
21:18if, let's say, for example,
21:19that that second tier was three people
21:21and you're in the next tier,
21:23then obviously you get a little bit bigger.
21:24But I definitively think
21:25at that moment in the draft,
21:27he's the best player available.
21:28Him or Caleb Downs.
21:29And so I think that's going to be the pick.
21:31Logan, I always like to ask
21:32smart evaluators about this.
21:34Give me a guy that you were higher on,
21:36maybe, than it seems like
21:37everybody else is,
21:38and give me somebody
21:39that you're a bit lower on
21:40than what seems to be the consensus.
21:42Yeah, I mean,
21:43I think I'm a little bit higher
21:44on Eli Stowers,
21:45a tight end from Vanderbilt.
21:46I think he's an absolute stud.
21:47I think when you look at
21:48how he runs routes,
21:50I think the thing that comes
21:51to the forefront is, like,
21:52it looks like, you know,
21:54this guy that's got great feel,
21:55understands route running nuance,
21:57has great stems,
21:59is competitive at the catch point.
22:00I think he's listed as a tight end.
22:02I legitimately think
22:03he can play receiver in the NFL.
22:04So I think that skill set's high.
22:06So I have him at 25.
22:07I've seen some people
22:07have him as low as 60 or 65.
22:09So I'm probably significantly higher.
22:11Another guy,
22:12I'm higher on is Triton Stukes.
22:13I just look at the range
22:14of him as a player,
22:15the length,
22:16the height,
22:16the speed,
22:17the ball skills,
22:18and I'm like,
22:19man, he's going to make
22:19somebody very happy
22:20as a post player.
22:21In terms of people
22:22that I'm lower on,
22:23I mean,
22:24I'm trying to think
22:24if there's anybody
22:25that comes to mind here.
22:28I'm pretty generous here
22:29with my,
22:30I think Jalen Kilgore.
22:32Jalen Kilgore from South Carolina
22:33would be one,
22:34I think people like
22:35the 9.9 RAS.
22:37He played true nickel
22:38at South Carolina.
22:41So to me,
22:41he's like in the 66,
22:42kind of 70 range.
22:44I've seen people have him
22:45as high as like 35.
22:47So I just think
22:49he's projecting to safety
22:51and I don't see
22:52a lot of the physical,
22:53like the physicality elements
22:54to his game.
22:55So that makes me
22:56a little bit nervous.
22:56I think he's got
22:57a lot of athletic upside,
22:58obviously,
22:59but the lack
23:00of tackling,
23:01the lack of taking
23:01on offensive linemen
23:02really makes me
23:03a little bit nervous
23:04with a player like him.
23:05You know,
23:05looking at your big board
23:06in front of me here,
23:07I think you're probably
23:08going to have higher
23:09than a lot of people's
23:10Omar Cooper Jr.,
23:11the wide receiver
23:12from Indiana.
23:13He's in your top 15 overall.
23:15What do you love about him?
23:16Dude,
23:17I think that one was
23:18really,
23:19I kind of was late
23:20to the party with him.
23:21Like,
23:21I just started watching him
23:22and the more you watch him,
23:24Mike,
23:24you're like,
23:24this guy's got a great feel.
23:25He's a bigger body
23:26than Makai Lemon,
23:28for example.
23:28He's really competitive
23:30and grounded
23:30through the catch point.
23:31And then you watch him
23:32after the catch
23:33and like,
23:33no one can tackle this guy.
23:35And so there are some issues
23:36like how sudden
23:37and how fast are you?
23:38But then you go look
23:39at this 40,
23:40he's a 4-4-2 guy.
23:42And you're like,
23:42that's plenty fast.
23:43And you see all of this
23:45route running nuance
23:46to him.
23:47There is some concern.
23:48I mean,
23:48he's playing with the number one,
23:49you know,
23:49the quarterback that's going
23:50to go first overall,
23:51the ball plays
23:52in the Asker,
23:52so he puts him
23:53in a good position
23:54to be successful.
23:55But I think about him
23:56with a team like,
23:56you know,
23:57the Rams,
23:58for example,
23:59or,
23:59you know,
24:00Green Bay.
24:00And I'm like,
24:01he would absolutely murder
24:02in those offenses.
24:03And I think the skill set
24:04is a little bit more
24:05transferable
24:05than Makai Lemon,
24:07who I like a lot.
24:07But I think his skill set,
24:09the size,
24:10the speed,
24:11again,
24:11I think it speaks
24:12to more teams
24:13and gives me
24:14a higher confidence
24:15that he goes
24:15kind of in that,
24:16what is that,
24:16the fourth tier
24:17between 15 and 27.
24:21Logan Paulson,
24:22final thought here.
24:22So you said seven,
24:24Mansoor Delaney,
24:25if that happens,
24:26at 71,
24:27what's Peters thinking?
24:29Yeah,
24:30I mean,
24:30I think this is going
24:30to be really interesting
24:31to see how the board falls.
24:32Like,
24:32I would think
24:33offensive playmaker there.
24:34And so,
24:35when I get to 71,
24:37like,
24:37there's these,
24:39I'm having a hard time.
24:41Like,
24:41I'm hearing that,
24:41like,
24:42everyone's like,
24:42Ted Hurst,
24:43Deshaun Schibling.
24:43I think those guys
24:44personally go
24:45in the second round.
24:46I think Chris Bell
24:47might be there
24:48because of the knee injury.
24:49How comfortable
24:50are you are
24:51with him and his rehab?
24:52That would be something
24:52that I would think
24:53about there at 71.
24:54I also think
24:56Malachi Fields
24:57would be interesting
24:57here at 71.
24:59But I think
24:59there are receivers.
25:01I think they're just
25:01going to be different
25:02than the ones
25:02that people have been
25:03projecting here
25:04for the last couple weeks
25:05after going back,
25:06reviewing the film,
25:07and kind of putting
25:07this board together.
25:09Logan,
25:09you're the best,
25:09buddy.
25:09Always appreciate it,
25:10man.
25:11Thanks for having me on,
25:12guys.
25:12Appreciate you.
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