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Seth and Sean get worked up for the Astros series with the St. Louis Cardinals by doing a bonus 5 Reasons I Hate You about the Cardinals and city of St. Louis.
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00:00We did the Lakers earlier. That was fun.
00:02And hopefully the Lakers give us more reasons to hate them.
00:06Actually, you know what? Hopefully they don't in this series.
00:08Hopefully they just roll over like the dogs that they are
00:11without Luka Doncic and Austin Reeves, and the Rockets steamroll them.
00:14That's what I hope happens. We'll see. It's up to you, Rockets.
00:18The Astros also play the St. Louis Cardinals this weekend.
00:23And I think if you're a longtime Astro fan,
00:26there's still some deep-seated hate for the St. Louis Cardinals, right?
00:30I mean, that was your rival in the old NL Central back in the day.
00:34We're AL West people now, but we can turn back the clock
00:37when the Cardinals come to town for a weekend series with the Houston Astros,
00:41and that's what we're about to do.
00:43Five reasons I hate you to staple during football season.
00:46We do it on special occasions, sometimes outside of football season.
00:49Today is a special enough occasion to where we're doing it not once, but twice.
00:54And this is the second one.
00:55You want to listen to the first one?
00:57It's what the free Odyssey app and the Rewind feature is for.
00:59Here we go, Seth.
01:00Five reasons I hate you, St. Louis Cardinals.
01:02Number five, Roydhead Mark McGuire breaking the all-time home run record at the time.
01:091998, him and Sammy Sosa with their Royd battle for the ages,
01:13bringing baseball back from the abyss that it was in after the work stoppage.
01:18As it turns out, it was fueled by bottles and bottles of PEDs.
01:24The funniest thing about all of it was that for a long time the discussion was after McGuire
01:29had been seen with a bottle of DHEA in his locker, which is like pales in comparison to
01:35what actual steroids will do for you, that that was people arguing and debating about
01:41whether or not they should be allowed to use DHEA.
01:43And I'm still kind of, I'm still, I'm still amazed that that, that's what tipped it all
01:50off because whatever McGuire was using, that was by far the least effective thing that he
01:55was using.
01:55That it was, and yet that's what really got the ball rolling.
01:59Um, and, uh, I, uh, so Mark McGuire was, I, I've got a little soft spot in my heart for
02:06him because it was at a time where the entire, uh, many, many people in the league were using
02:11these things to use them most effectively.
02:13Yeah.
02:14Yeah.
02:14So he gets punished the most for it, for using, for being the best at using what a lot of
02:20other
02:20cheaters were using kind of like Lance Armstrong, like, okay, everybody admits that the vast
02:25majority of cyclists were doping or doing some variety of it, but because he was best
02:30at it, somehow he becomes the problem.
02:32What about all those other clowns that were cheating and didn't get anything out of it?
02:36It's so funny, dude.
02:37I will never, I'll never forget that summer of 98 with Sosa and McGuire, and they were in
02:42the same ballpark when one of them hit a big home run and they, they actually went up to
02:46each other and were high-fiving each other.
02:47Like the home run, the home run chase in 1998 was so huge and it's, it's just so comedic
02:56to go back and look now and see how ridiculous those guys looked, how big they were, you know,
03:04just how, what a monstrosity they were.
03:06Like they were just, they, they were cartoonish.
03:09Well, it was, um, it was, it's funny because there was a lot of similarities, obviously, because
03:13football was going through the same thing in the eighties.
03:15And people would say that people, journalists that had covered both sports said that all
03:20of a sudden major league baseball clubhouses looked a lot like NFL locker rooms did in
03:26the eighties where you're like, these guys have muscles on muscles.
03:29Like it just, uh, it's, uh, like to a, to a point where it just doesn't make sense.
03:33Their physiques just don't look right.
03:35Yep.
03:35Yeah.
03:35Um, number four, Albert Pujols, these are five reasons I hate you, St. Louis Cardinals
03:41and his home run that gets brought up all the time.
03:44The home run in 2005, the Astros are getting ready to go to the world series and Brad Lidge
03:49gives up a home run to Albert Pujols and the Astros lose game six of the NLCS.
03:54The reason why this home run is a little overrated.
03:56The Astros won game seven.
03:58They ended up going to the world series.
03:59Anyways, that home run gets treated.
04:01Like he actually won something, right?
04:03Like he actually sent them to the world series or whatever.
04:05Yeah.
04:06Yeah.
04:06And it was, it was a terrible night.
04:08It was devastating in the moment.
04:10Right.
04:10Not a good night of sleep for Astro fans that night.
04:13I'll admit that.
04:13Right.
04:14Yeah.
04:14Sorry.
04:14Yeah.
04:14Boy, that legendary, uh, home run that gave me a little bit of agita for, uh, about 21
04:21hours.
04:22For a day.
04:22Yeah.
04:23Yeah.
04:23Like I, I don't know.
04:24Like that's moments like that gets spoiled for me sometimes if I'm a fan of the team and then
04:29they, they don't go on to, you know, go to the world series or win the world series.
04:34Like even for me, I've said this before, even for me, I'll to Altuve's, and this is one
04:40of the reasons why the, the 2019 world series probably is the title loss for any team of
04:45mine that stings the most one that Astros team lost four games at home to a, a, an average
04:51nationals team won 93 games.
04:53But that 2019 home run Altuve hit to walk off the ALCS is, and it is one of the great
05:00moments in Houston sports history, but it's tainted by the world series for me.
05:05You know, it, it's what it leads to sometimes.
05:07And that's why this Albert Pujols home run didn't even lead to them winning the next night
05:11and getting to the world series overrated home run Pujols then goes to Los Angeles to
05:17the angels and, uh, you know, bankrupts their team for the next 10 years.
05:21Cause his contracts suck.
05:22I actually like him for doing that, but Albert Pujols, number four on the list.
05:25Number three, St. Louis as a city, they are in the pantheon of crappy weather cities.
05:35Most cities pick a lane, Seth, you know, Houston picked the lane.
05:38We're going to be really hot in the summertime, but we're going to be pleasant.
05:41The other six months out of the year up in the Northeast, horrible in the wintertime, but
05:47lovely in the spring all the way into fall.
05:49It's beautiful.
05:51St. Louis basically has a Houston summer and a Northeast winter.
05:56Yeah.
05:57They should, they're the dumbest city.
05:58The mother nature, St. Louis is stupid.
06:02She chose both lanes for the bad weather lanes.
06:05Yeah.
06:06That's a, and you're, I hate that city.
06:09Yeah.
06:09And choosing to do that, uh, as a city, you, you all deserve great, great shame.
06:15Yes.
06:15Great shame for nothing.
06:16You had any, uh, I just hate St. Louis.
06:18I don't like visiting St. Louis.
06:19The weather's never nice there.
06:20It's never nice.
06:21It's one of the first things that pops up when you Google, what are the undesirable things
06:26about St. Louis?
06:27Yes.
06:27The hot, humid summers.
06:28And then the cold winters with ice and snow.
06:31I hate to go there.
06:31Not to mention the whole tornado dynamic and everything.
06:34There's that too.
06:35Good job.
06:35Yeah.
06:35There's that too.
06:36I used to have to travel there on business.
06:38All right.
06:39Number two, five reasons.
06:40I hate you.
06:40St. Louis.
06:41You can't even catch a riverboat like you could back in the day.
06:43No, you know, the riverboat, the riverboat industry is just all but dried up and it's
06:48useless.
06:49Where's Twain when I need him.
06:50Yeah.
06:51You guys drove Mark Twain out of business.
06:54Uh, number two, five reasons.
06:56I hate you.
06:56You and I had a conversation off the air yesterday about the severing of relationships and how
07:00when you break up with, this was not on air, Seth and I, these are the conversations we
07:04have off the air.
07:05And we were talking about the connotation of breaking up versus getting dumped.
07:10Remember when we were talking about that yesterday and how like you break up, there's
07:15some nuance to it where neither side gets really embarrassed.
07:17Yeah.
07:18But if you get dumped.
07:19But you got dumped.
07:20That's embarrassing.
07:20Like in high school.
07:21It's like, oh, she dumped him.
07:22She dumped me.
07:23Yeah.
07:23Yeah.
07:23She dumped him.
07:24St. Louis got dumped by the NFL and the Rams.
07:29Like there was, this was no, we, this was no owner packing up a U-Haul and moving in
07:33the middle of the night.
07:34This was a concerted effort by the NFL to get the Rams the hell out of there and to
07:38Los Angeles.
07:39And then in just the most pathetic display ever, we'll try to trump up their, their XFL
07:44or UFL attendance figures.
07:47Like proof positive that we deserve, we deserve an NFL team.
07:52Yeah.
07:52Yeah.
07:53Yeah.
07:53Yeah.
07:53So no, you left Kurt Warner homeless.
07:56That's right.
07:56Nobody gives a damn about Kurt Warner in LA.
07:59No, no.
08:00He's yet now he's a New York giants legend.
08:02We made Eric Dickerson way more relevant again.
08:05That's right.
08:06And that annoys me.
08:07Yep.
08:07That's yes.
08:08I, number one.
08:09And I think this is number one with a bullet.
08:11This notion that Cardinal fans are the quote, smartest fans in baseball.
08:16Yeah.
08:17That they are ball knowers to the nth degree that they know ball better than every other
08:22baseball city in town.
08:23What the hell makes them so smart in the eyes of everybody, except themselves.
08:28Smartest fans in baseball.
08:30F off, man.
08:31Whatever.
08:32I've been to your games.
08:33There's a lot of stupid people at your games.
08:35Oh, and they were just amazing and so passionate until all of a sudden they weren't good.
08:39And their attendance numbers dumped.
08:41Right.
08:41Right.
08:42You know, this year they're bottom half of the league in attendance.
08:46Yeah.
08:46Yeah.
08:46And they're like, no, stop the charade.
08:49Okay.
08:49Can I, can I, can I read this text to you?
08:52Yeah.
08:52Text from our boss, uh, Sarah.
08:54Oh, that she's, yeah.
08:55She's from Kansas city.
08:56Yeah.
08:57So there's probably a healthy rivalry between Kansas city and St.
09:00Louis.
09:00I would imagine the two big cities in Missouri.
09:03She says the very first question you get when you meet somebody from St.
09:09Louis or if two St.
09:10Louis people meet up with each other, they literally say, where did you go to high school?
09:14And then if it's not one of the right high schools, you're essentially a leper.
09:19You're untouchable.
09:19She says, she says this, not college, not where do you work?
09:24It's the first question they ask.
09:27Where do you go to high school?
09:28All caps effing weird.
09:30She remembers that.
09:31Yeah.
09:31And then they bring up the time that Susie, uh, Susie Miller dumped you.
09:36That is weird.
09:37Yeah.
09:37As an adult.
09:38Well, it doesn't, doesn't surprise you though, Sean.
09:39It sounds like a very stratified community up there.
09:42Uh, chat says that St.
09:43Louis is often cited as one of the most racially segregated cities in the U S yeah, maybe so
09:48maybe so they do.
09:49They try to skate by a little bit about like, don't ask about what we used to do with the
09:53whole, are we a Southern city?
09:55Well, it depends.
09:57Um, yeah.
09:58Go ahead and just ask them about their record with slaves.
10:00Why do you ask?
10:01No, I literally need to know.
10:03Why are you asking?
10:04Yeah.
10:04Why do you ask me?
10:05No, no, no.
10:06I'm talking about the high school thing.
10:07Yeah.
10:07Yeah.
10:08Yeah.
10:08Yeah.
10:08But the segregation thing, um, those are five reasons I hate you.
10:13If you've got other reasons why you hate, uh, St.
10:15Louis.
10:15Oh, Ron's texting us right now.
10:17Ha!
10:18Ron Hughley, Kansas city native.
10:20What am I?
10:20Yeah.
10:20We're damn dinging.
10:21My phone is dinging like crazy.
10:23We got Casey army texting in right now.
10:26I can do it.
10:27I hate St.
10:28Louis for an hour.
10:30Show, show Kansas city versus St.
10:33Louis foods.
10:33Foods.
10:34They're known for pizza and toasted ravioli.
10:37Ravioli lame asses.
10:39He says lame.
10:40I like toast.
10:41What is it?
10:41Why?
10:41What's St.
10:42Louis pizza?
10:42What's notable about it?
10:44I don't know.
10:44I'm not sure.
10:45I kind of like, like Chicago's got its deep dish pizza.
10:48Detroit's got its square pizza.
10:50Detroit.
10:51I don't know what the Detroit does the sauce on top of a cheese.
10:54I think is what they do.
10:55Is that what it is?
10:56I think so.
10:56Yeah.
10:56And there's something that they take pride in it being square.
10:59They might, that might be it too, but I think they put sauce on top of the pizza.
11:02I'm pretty sure if you're from Detroit text into the base power pizza text line right
11:07now, what are, uh, where are you on deep dish pizza?
11:10I like it.
11:10Yeah, I like it.
11:11Star pizza has got a really good deep dish pizza.
11:13That's, that's pretty close to Chicago stuff.
11:15That's really, really good.
11:16I like it a lot.
11:17Now it's, it's not, to me, it's more to me, to me, deep dish pizza is more like,
11:21it's almost more like lasagna than it is pizza.
11:24Cause I eat it with a knife and fork.
11:26It's so thick.
11:26You know what?
11:27I know this.
11:27I remember this now is St.
11:29Louis pizza.
11:29It tastes like they're super, super proud of their, uh, like store-bought freezer pizza.
11:36That's what their, their distinctive pizza is.
11:39It's got a firm, crispy texture and a unique smoky flavor with a cracker like crust.
11:46So basically if what you're really into with your pizza is something that tastes like frozen
11:52pizza, they're all about you.
11:54Yeah.
11:54Like you cooked a little too long.
11:56Yeah.
11:57Frozen pizza, but cooked a little too long.
11:58Do you like Ritz's with ketchup and cheese on it?
12:02Yeah.
12:03That's in St.
12:03Louis pizza.
12:04It's not even that.
12:05It's like a saltine.
12:07It's beautiful.
12:08By the way.
12:09Oh, you said they, the show said they use cracker pizza later this afternoon.
12:13No, I do like, I do like sometimes I like a kind of a crunchy crust on the pizza.
12:18I like just putting some slabs of cheddar on a, on a cracker and throwing it in the microwave.
12:23Yes.
12:24Yes.
12:25Yes.
12:25I'm all for that.
12:26But all right.
12:26Those are five reasons.
12:27I hate you.
12:28St.
12:28Louis style, which is brought our Kansas city brethren out of the woodwork.
12:31And I love it.
12:32Ron said the cheese is terrible.
12:33Yep.
12:34Oh, he's just sent me a picture of one from a restaurant website.
12:37Oh, that's terrible.
12:39Got it out of a dumpster.
12:40God.
12:40Oh, he's dead.
12:40Oh, he's dead.
12:41Oh, he's dead.
12:41Oh, he's dead.
12:41Oh, he's dead.
12:41Oh, he's dead.
12:41Oh, he's dead.
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