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ITL debates which late-round prospect could be a hidden gem for Houston.
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00:00We've been counting down to the draft for at least for over a week now.
00:03And now we're in that final stretch, that final week to the draft
00:07and actually finding out who the newest Houston Texans will be.
00:10And so we've been asking questions every day as we go along there.
00:14Our question today is about a little bit of depth in the draft.
00:18We usually talk at the top of the draft, and so this one should be interesting.
00:20Hit us up on the base power text line, 713-572-4610, with your answer.
00:25Who's a player that you'd love to see the Texans take a flyer on in a later round?
00:29Perhaps day three, and that's probably what would be really fun to get into.
00:34Because I think we've talked a little bit about kind of day two type stuff,
00:36but if there's one that you feel passionate about, let us know that.
00:39But who is the flyer type player that you would love to see for your Texans?
00:43Basically, as you've put it, your pet cat, which isn't necessarily a flyer,
00:48but a lot of times people like to say, hey, how about so-and-so from such-and-such,
00:53you know, and all that.
00:55I've got one, and I don't think I've even mentioned his name yet
00:59as we've been, you know, talking about the draft here for the past few weeks.
01:04It's that kid from TCU, Bud Clark.
01:08He's a safety that has, like, he is, I saw somebody mention him a couple of weeks ago,
01:14and I remember that kid.
01:16He played against Michigan in the playoff, you know, in the national championship playoff,
01:21and I remember him making plays in that game, and I was like, oh, okay.
01:24So, you know, you start digging around, looking around.
01:26He is an absolute ball hawk, had some injuries, and that kind of hit him down,
01:34you know, knocked him down a peg or two as far as, but blazing fast.
01:38And here's the thing that really did it for me.
01:40He's a safety that has played a lot of nickel and is a vicious tackler.
01:44Yeah.
01:44Like a vicious tackler, but he's a little undersized.
01:47He's like 5'11".
01:49Yeah, lean, lean type of frame.
01:51He's, you know, he's six foot, but he comes in around 180, 190, 195, somewhere in that range.
01:59Yeah, no, he's six foot.
02:00So who does that remind you of?
02:01Me?
02:02Well, maybe, but then your doctor says you're under six foot.
02:05But either way, either way, it's a fact.
02:12One of these guys that can be, you know, we talk about who's going to play behind Jalen Petrie.
02:17That's a dude that you can bring in, you know, really good on the ball, can get in the box,
02:22can have some good coverage skills.
02:25I don't remember the exact number, but a lot of interceptions in college.
02:28Do you have his profile in front of you?
02:29I do have, let me see if I can actually see where his, some of his statistics were.
02:34Yeah, no, he is, he's the prototype, real fast prototype.
02:4015?
02:4015.
02:4115 interceptions in college over four seasons.
02:45The first couple of seasons he did play, but he didn't get interceptions.
02:48But over the last four seasons of his career at TCU, got 15 interceptions.
02:54So, yeah, no, he definitely shows up in different ways.
02:58You know, apparently he could be a little bit of a gambler.
03:00But, I mean, you were talking about a dude who was graded as like a third round type guy.
03:03Yeah.
03:05Definitely, it's cool seeing a dude that will come up in the run game
03:09and also has some coverage to him.
03:11And, of course, if you're talking about a safety, especially in a draft like this.
03:14A converted safety.
03:15I mean, can convert from safety.
03:17He's played in the slot some.
03:18Right.
03:18If you're talking about a safety in a draft like this where there's not a lot of like,
03:21it's not, there's a few guys at the top of safety and then you're kind of looking for some other
03:25guys.
03:26That definitely is one that you go, huh, is that a guy that could fit that role that we're looking
03:30for?
03:30I think that's a good one.
03:31That's a good one.
03:31What's some small things where you go, all right, how much do you like that he's lean size?
03:36How much do you like that he is less of a I'm going to tackle through you as opposed to
03:41kind of a grab and pull tackler?
03:43Those apparently are things that happen with him.
03:45But, no, I like that as a, hey, if you're looking for somebody to maybe step in that spot, could
03:51this be that guy?
03:52I think someone on the text line, or no, we had talked about before we go there, the Keontae Scott
03:57of it all.
03:57I don't know that you would consider him a, I don't know that you would consider him a flyer by
04:02any means,
04:03but that's the same guy in that similar space, but he's got a higher grade.
04:06He's like a second, third round grade, so I think he might be out of that space.
04:10On the base power text line from the 281, Albert Regis, you might be familiar with him.
04:15Yeah, me and am.
04:16Fifth round type guy, defensive tackle from A&M.
04:19He does, he does interest me as soon as I look at, you know, what the kind of scouting report
04:24is on him,
04:26because he is compact plugger.
04:29Yeah.
04:30Like, not long, but strong, and look, I know that defensive tackle is one of those things where we would
04:36love to get that guy
04:37who's just otherworldly, right, big run stopper, but then also can get upfield.
04:41But if you look at, is there a program that is better suited to take somebody who's strong and, you
04:47know,
04:47has that raw ability and, you know, kind of works into getting him a little bit better at penetrating
04:51and getting upfield and adding to that game than D'Amico Rhines and Matt Burke and Rod Wright.
04:57Like, this feels like a good triumvirate of coaches that could take a guy like maybe an Albert Regis at
05:01a flyer position,
05:03and maybe this goes wider to all the defensive tackles, get somebody in a flyer position like that,
05:07and then coach them up into a place where you see them elevate, like another Tommy Togiai of sorts.
05:12Well, if you're talking about, yes, I'm quite familiar with his work, and you hit it right on the head
05:16in terms of profiling him.
05:18But if you're talking about A&M and a flyer, I don't even know where exactly he would fall, but
05:22we've mentioned Le'Veon Moss.
05:24Yep.
05:24That dude is a dude.
05:26He is an absolute dude running the ball, but clearly has had some ankle stuff, has fallen.
05:33I couldn't tell you exactly where, you know, he's projected right now, and it could be as far.
05:38Sixth round grade.
05:39Yeah, it could be anywhere from, like, the fourth to the sixth round, but that guy can flat play, and
05:43he will play in the NFL.
05:45He will play in the NFL.
05:46Do you have any?
05:47One of the ones that came to mind for me is one that actually came up on the text line
05:52from the 409,
05:54and I'm still wondering how much I like it, so I guess maybe this isn't a great answer,
05:57but I've been pondering a lot on it, and we'll talk about it more, the reason why.
06:01But Harold Perkins, linebacker, LSU.
06:03It's a great one.
06:03Although, you say linebacker, and I go, is he?
06:06Because that was the reason why he's a dude who could be, like, a day three player is he had
06:11all the talent in the world going to LSU,
06:12and people thought he was going to be a game wrecker.
06:14They just couldn't figure out how to use him.
06:16Was he an edge rusher?
06:17Was he a true off-ball linebacker?
06:19And they didn't really figure it out all the time that was there.
06:22I think that LSU really did not do him a service at all in the way that they tried to
06:26figure it out.
06:27That's usually, I think, the college's job to try and figure out some of the best ways to use him.
06:31So I think he comes into the NFL as a little bit of a tweener,
06:33and I do wonder if he wouldn't be better suited for a 3-4 team that can maybe just throw
06:37him at an outside linebacker
06:39and see how that works.
06:40Athletic as hell.
06:41However, crazy athletic can come up and hit, obviously.
06:45And so he still has all of that raw material, and I go, again, same thing I'm talking about with
06:50Regis, right?
06:51It seems like you do have a circumstance with this team where you can go, hey, give me raw talent,
06:56and we will be able to hone it into our perspective of how we want him to play.
07:01So a dude who was very highly regarded going into a big-ticket school like LSU,
07:06you know he has the talent.
07:07They just didn't refine him well.
07:08Well, I know it's a place they could refine players.
07:10Yeah.
07:11Figured you got one?
07:11Yeah, yeah, I got one, and we're talking flyers, right?
07:14Right.
07:15Yep.
07:15And I don't know if this – maybe I'm being a little messy on this one,
07:19but I would love to see the Tessas take a flyer on Tyron Montgomery.
07:25Oh, God.
07:27Oh, that's a lot.
07:28Yeah.
07:28The guy from JCU.
07:32That's a lot.
07:32Just kind of being messy, to be honest.
07:34I think it would be hilarious if Nick Casario drafted him.
07:38He's going to take him in the second round.
07:41Where is he slotted to go?
07:43He's actually climbed the ranks a little bit.
07:45Although, Dan Brugler, not the end-all, be-all by any means.
07:48His third round of stretch for him?
07:50High stretch.
07:51Okay.
07:51He has him as a UDFA probably.
07:53So this could really be a flyer where you just go,
07:56seventh-round pick maybe to avoid the UDFA conversation.
07:58Like, hey, you went to my school.
07:59Might as well pick you in the seventh round.
08:01Or maybe you do end up in a circumstance where you go, all right, well, you know.
08:04Hey.
08:05I know the people over there, so I'll draft you.
08:07Right.
08:08So, but, I mean.
08:09J.C., you?
08:09That's a dude who, again, we talk about, I think, with flyers,
08:13there's different styles of flyers.
08:14And it feels like the one that is probably the most prevalent is, hey,
08:17there's raw ability there that needs to be refined.
08:19He ain't been playing wide receiver but so long.
08:21Like, barely more than a year, right?
08:23Or two years, something like that?
08:25He ran his first route at age 19, played his first game at wide receiver at 22.
08:30Yeah.
08:30Like, the inexperience is really what shows up here.
08:32And so.
08:33That's a true flyer right there.
08:35I don't know why I didn't think of that one, though.
08:36Yeah, no, that's a true flyer to the point.
08:38If he do get drafted, I can see him just slashing, putting him on the practice squad type.
08:43Mm-hmm.
08:44Flyer.
08:44Now, the only thing that I worry or worry is maybe not the right way of putting it is,
08:49can he get in here and block his wide receiver?
08:51Because you know that they like doing that.
08:53Yeah.
08:53And then also, like, what is the thing that he does well?
08:56Even if you, like, if you're projecting, right, what is the thing you project to do well?
09:00Because he's not, he's not big.
09:02He doesn't have a lot of speed.
09:04And so, is he getting in out of, is he getting in out of breaks really clean?
09:09Like, there needs to be, one, you need to find a way to get separation.
09:11And two, there needs to be something that you have as a wide receiver at the NFL.
09:15Can he be a Jared Wayne?
09:17Do you think he could be somewhat of a Jared Wayne?
09:20He would need some polish to get there.
09:21Yeah.
09:22That would be, but maybe he ends up being a guy that you take a flyer on,
09:25and maybe he's a practice squad kind of guy until you, yeah, in that Jared Wayne style,
09:29until you have somebody that, hey, he could show it.
09:31Like, I wonder if, and of course, I'm not saying definitively,
09:34because I've not done enough thinking on it, admittedly.
09:36I wonder if he can't become something like a Noah Brown at some point.
09:39Yeah, something like that.
09:40You know what I mean?
09:41Some more names coming in on the text line.
09:43Someone said Malik Benson.
09:45Looking for a wide receiver that they feel like, you know, kind of a speedster of sorts.
09:49Wide receiver like Will Fuller back in the day with hopefully better hands.
09:53Somebody talked about an edge, Tucker, Burke, offensive tackle.
09:58Like, there's a whole bunch of different ones in there.
10:00But somebody also mentioned Zachariah Branch.
10:02We're talking about the wide receiver.
10:03But, yeah, it's definitely going to be intriguing.
10:05That's the part that I am having a hard time,
10:07because if we're talking about the first round, the number 28 pick,
10:09where we're like, we don't know how the landscape falls.
10:11Obviously, 38 and 59, we don't know how the landscape falls.
10:14What do we talk about once we get to rounds four, your couple of six-round picks?
10:18Like, I have no idea what that could happen.
10:20And hopefully, when they do get to those rounds,
10:23they get some guys that, you know, are pretty good flyers
10:27that have an opportunity to have some upside for this Texas.
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