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The guys break down all three draft approaches and what Houston should do.
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00:00I think we can all get involved in this perspective of it on as we watch the Texans and we
00:04gear up for what is a very intriguing NFL draft for them this year.
00:08I've said that Nick Casario feels unmoored in there's there's not particular large needs that this roster has currently with
00:17the with the construction of it.
00:18And so I'm very intrigued as to what he can do.
00:21And so with that being the case, let's kind of do a thought exercise. Let's work through it.
00:25What is the best case scenario that you can make for the Texans trading up, trading back or maybe even
00:28standing pat?
00:29At seven, one, three, five, seven, two, four, six, ten.
00:32First of all, I'm very impressed that you use the term unmoored that that isn't a maritime term.
00:39So I appreciate that. Secondly, let me bounce it off you guys.
00:44Seven, one, three, five, seven, two, four, six, ten.
00:46And what exactly? And you two guys trading the positives and negatives of trading up as we sit today.
00:52Okay. Trade up and pat or trade back.
00:56Now, there's there's there's positives and negatives on both.
01:00How would you feel about trading up knowing they're going to get their guy, you know, because obviously, if you
01:06trade up, you probably have one particular guy in mind.
01:10For me, it's kind of hard.
01:11Or at least you get yourself in a different silo of types of players than what is available.
01:15It's enough to make you move up.
01:17Sure.
01:17You know, on the other hand, you're giving up picks.
01:20Correct.
01:21Because you will be moving up and moving picks.
01:23So that that's moving up.
01:24And when you when you're moving up and giving up picks, not to say that this is the end all
01:28be all.
01:29But you are starting to get to a place where you have a lot of dudes to pay.
01:32And this is the time period where you would imagine that having cost controlled players and a number of them
01:38help you fill out your roster better.
01:40So giving up the the number of, you know, the number of players in order to get a particular player
01:47is a is it's a gamble, I guess, is a way of saying.
01:51All right.
01:51So that's trading up standing pat.
01:53You're in a place that clearly you're sending the message.
01:56We're in a place where we're pretty good with our with our, you know, first 22, so to speak.
01:59And there you are, pretty good.
02:01And you let the board fall as it falls and you get yourself in a position to snag someone that
02:07ranks highest on your board and maybe get value.
02:10Maybe you have a guy ranked pretty high that continues to fall in your opinion.
02:13Then again, on the other hand, I'm just doing pros and cons here.
02:17You could get jumped for a player.
02:19And it's happened with this squad multiple times.
02:23You get jumped for a player that is really, really that ends up being really, really good.
02:27And you could have had him at 28.
02:29All right.
02:29So the idea of standing pat at 28.
02:32All right.
02:32Trading back.
02:34Emotionally, it's kind of a womp, womp, you know, for fans, but screw fans.
02:40Whoa.
02:41Whoa.
02:42That are the that is the opinion of John P.
02:45Lopez does not express the larger opinion of in the loop and Sports Radio 610.
02:49I'm including myself.
02:50What?
02:51I'm including myself among those.
02:53Did you get that?
02:53You mark that down.
02:55Screw fans.
02:56Just in case.
02:57I just what I want is just at some point in June, after we've long forgotten this conversation,
03:02Lopez in the middle of a single drop of a sudden, just drop that thing in there, fans, including
03:07me, by the way.
03:08But anyway, on the other hand, you know, you trade back, you add picks.
03:14Yes.
03:14To your point on, you know, keeping guys that you can draft that are, you know, you have
03:21a control over on it.
03:23But then you're also risking, again, missing on players.
03:26And maybe even playing in a in a less talented pool in theory, right?
03:30With the draft in theory, the further you go in the draft, the less talented pool of players
03:34that you're so trade up, stand pat, trade back.
03:37Where would you stand right now?
03:40Ah, this is tough.
03:41What makes the most sense for you with given what we know that's happened in the right now?
03:45To me, what makes the most sense is probably stand pat.
03:49Because I felt like, like, of course, you could get better with players and all that
03:53stuff, but I don't know if it's a direct need that you need where you got to trade up to
04:00get this person or either trade back.
04:03I felt like they in a good place where you probably got your starting five on the offensive
04:08line.
04:09Maybe you could get something at center, but I don't know if you need to trade up for
04:13a center.
04:14Yeah.
04:14Or maybe you could trade back for a center.
04:17No, I mean, if we're talking about center, I don't think, if we're talking about, like,
04:20the value or the places where centers might be drafted, I don't think we're even talking
04:23about there in the first round.
04:23I'm trying to think of a position that you really need that, like, I don't know if they
04:28need a position right at this moment, right now.
04:32Right, and I think that that actually is why I feel the possibility of trading up is kind
04:37of more probable, or more, yeah, more probable than other circumstances.
04:41But what about for you, as we sit here?
04:41I'm just saying right now, as I sit right now.
04:43That's how I feel you, because the way that I view it is...
04:45Anything else is a luxury.
04:46Right, and that's the thing, is you're now talking about luxuries of how do we upgrade
04:50certain positions possibly, or add to a room with the possibility of upgrading.
04:54And so, if you're thinking of it that way, especially without the feeling that I need
04:59to get all of these, however many draft picks do they have, is it eight at this point?
05:02I need to get all of these draft picks.
05:04You can go, I can sacrifice the picker tube, especially since I'm not that in a need of
05:10guys that fit into these rooms.
05:13I can now go up and get a guy that I go, I have a better chance at, what, 15,
05:17at getting
05:18a guy who I know is going to add to this room and take it to another level than maybe
05:22at
05:2228.
05:23I do think that that's an interesting perspective.
05:25And let's say, just to put a name on it, that's like a Kenyan City, right?
05:29Where I go, I add a player that definitely elevates a room that I have, maybe even helps
05:35start, you know, as a starter in the room, or is definitely a player that gets, you know,
05:40real playing time during the course of the season, and now I have control over this that
05:44kind of changes the way that some of my contracts get done into the future.
05:47I can see the value of that.
05:49I think the path to least resistance is obvious in standing pat, especially because with a
05:55position that I think they probably want to attack in interior defensive line, it feels
06:01like there's going to be a number, a few of those players there.
06:03And we know that, you know, he likes playing, he being Nick Casario, likes playing in these
06:07rooms where they have tiers of players of sorts.
06:10And it feels like there's going to be a group of, you know, two or three guys in that particular
06:14area that I go, they could sit there and just have a guy that they like.
06:18And so I think that that's fair.
06:20But what we are ignoring in the possibility of the trade back circumstances, the quarterback,
06:24the conversation about quarterback is making it so that there is, there is a possibility
06:29that teams might be trading up into the back end of the first round to try and acquire
06:33the fifth, the fifth round, or rather fifth year option.
06:36Draft day, you get extras.
06:37Draft day, you get value.
06:39And Nick Casario, he seemed like he likes shopping for value.
06:42Like he seems like he likes a deal.
06:44And so could that just be by itself that appealing that allows him to trade back?
06:49So which one is it?
06:50I think this, I think it's, I probably go with the Stan Pat at this moment, but I think
06:55the reason, the reasons why aren't as strong as any of the other ones in my, to make it
07:00a simple one, I think that he could do any of these things very easily.
07:03Sure.
07:03And I think that that's the benefit of the way that you went about your off season to
07:06this point.
07:06He could.
07:07But in, uh, I understand why Stan, you both would pick Stan Pat.
07:11I'm, I'm in that place where the window is open.
07:15The window is open.
07:17You are, you know, conducting yourselves and they've done it.
07:20They've conducted themselves this off season as a team that is quote unquote going for it.
07:25And for that reason, you know, and also look at what other teams are doing.
07:29How are, how are other contending teams and presumed contending teams in the AFC operating?
07:33They're making big swings, uh, Kansas city, Buffalo now in the mix for miles Garrett.
07:38It seems like, uh, you know, the, all these teams at the top of the AFC are taking big
07:43swings.
07:44I might be more inclined to trade up, get that one bad-ass dude, in your opinion, that you
07:50feel can just be a true, one more awesome piece, one more piece that makes you a Super
07:57bowl contender.
07:58What's that piece?
07:58I'm like, if like, I got what you're saying and I kind of, I would be down with it.
08:03But what's that, uh, that player that you could trade up for that will come right in
08:08and make a immediate impact or somebody that's come in and start.
08:12I think the easiest answer would probably be defensive tackle.
08:15Maybe, uh, you know, I feel like you can make happen where you are.
08:19No, but I'm saying you could get a guy.
08:20I'm talking about like a, you move up and you get a stud, you know, you get a, you get
08:24a dude that's going to, there's going to be no doubt, you know, this guy is going to
08:27impact this team.
08:28Yeah.
08:28Because I think the test, I think this year they did a good job at getting the players
08:32that, you know, like, all right, that person is the starter.
08:35Yeah.
08:36And you know, no questions asked.
08:37I agree.
08:38And I'm wondering who could they get where they can, I guess, replace that well-known
08:43star.
08:43Who is somebody that could just come right in and that's the guy?
08:46I think I would maybe lean there.
08:48I think it's Sadiq.
08:48Because even, even.
08:50I think it's tight end Sadiq.
08:51It could be Sadiq.
08:52Because you think about, you look at the tight end class and it's, it's kind of shallow.
08:57It's kind of shallow at the very top.
08:59You have a dude who seems a little freakish.
09:01I'm going to say freaky and I'm trying not to describe folks like that, but kind of freakish
09:05in Kenya Sadiq.
09:06He, you know, has a good amount of blocking at his time at Oregon while also being a pass
09:10catching option.
09:11Yeah.
09:11And this is also a position that your offense, which again, is the side of the football
09:15that needs to be significantly better this year that I think that ends up being, if
09:19there's any sort of hot seat, it feels like it's the offense you give your offense coordinator
09:23who likes these tight ends, another weapon to deal with another one that also feels a
09:27little bit more like a guarantee to some degree, rather than is Brevin Jordan going to be healthy
09:32and what do you get when he's healthy?
09:33Because we still don't know exactly what that is.
09:35See, something like that.
09:35Cade Stover, do we know that he's taking the step forward?
09:37I do think that something like that could be what you look at for.
09:40Tight end, defensive tackle.
09:41That is just a wrecker, you know, that you can move up and get one of those two spots.
09:45Operate like, like you're a Superbowl contending team because you are.
09:48The only thing that I will quibble with, and you know, I like quibbling, is you're talking
09:52about the comparison with other teams at the top of the AFC.
09:56And I think you named teams though, that they're doing things, but they're doing things because
09:59they have these issues that they need to address, right?
10:02Like Kansas City.
10:03Yeah.
10:04They're being aggressive and going at Kenneth Walker.
10:05I think that's also because they're running, they're running back room was such a problem
10:09that they had to go.
10:10How was the Texans offensive line room?
10:11Right.
10:12And if you're going to operate like one of those teams, let's operate.
10:15But that's what I'm saying.
10:16They've already kind of operated in such a way, right?
10:18So I don't know that that's similar.
10:20Well, my point is like, over the top.
10:22Let's go over, let's go, let's get it done.
10:24The thing is, I feel like the Texans are not operating like over the top team.
10:29Yeah.
10:29Because, I mean, we talked about it, they still kind of shopping in the bargain bin a
10:32little bit, but it's in a good way though.
10:35It's not like Kansas City just throwing a bunch of money at a running back or Buffalo throwing
10:40a bunch of money at or whoever or trade for Miles Garrett.
10:44Well, the problem with it though is if you're shopping in the bargain bin in a good way,
10:48you just got a deal, right?
10:49Like that's, I think the connotation of shopping in the bargain bin is when you do that and
10:52you get lesser quality just trying to save money.
10:54And it does not feel like that's what they've done to this point.
10:56But time will tell ultimately.
10:57Yeah, they're not just throwing a bunch of money out there like Kansas City or what Buffalo
11:02doing because we kind of look at that as going for it and the Houston Texans is like,
11:06oh, they're just shopping in the bargain bin.
11:08But I think it's a good thing.
11:09The way they're doing it, I'm fine with it.
11:10It's the challenging part of this time of year because you see the actions, but you don't
11:15see the results of the actions until later.
11:18And so right now, as you're trying to judge it, we're just judging it off of the actions.
11:21And we've seen instances where in free agency, oh man, they spent a lot of money and then
11:25what was the actual outcome?
11:27So again, all of this will be tempered at the back side.
11:29You can kind of see it the other way too.
11:30Like, damn, like these players they got ain't really doing nothing.
11:33They shopping in the bargain bin.
11:35Why they ain't go for this center or that tackle?
11:38No, hindsight's always a 50-50 as my friend Cam Newton likes saying.
11:43But yeah, ultimately, I think that the interesting part of this is I could easily see them doing
11:47each and every one of these.
11:48I think that that's the beauty of the way that they've operated to this point.
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