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The New York Mets offense has officially hit a breaking point… and it’s getting ugly. 😬
Craig & C-Mac react to another lifeless Mets performance, and now 20 straight scoreless innings, zero confidence, and serious concerns about the direction of the team.
Craig & C-Mac react to another lifeless Mets performance, and now 20 straight scoreless innings, zero confidence, and serious concerns about the direction of the team.
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00:00Thriller last night in the Bronx, 10-8.
00:03Home runs all over the ballpark.
00:05Offense came alive.
00:06Pitching staff not so good.
00:08But you break the losing streak at 5.
00:11A couple games over .500 now.
00:14Huge win for the New York Yankees last night.
00:16Then, of course, after 10 o'clock, the New York Mets tried to take the field
00:20and looked like a cop in a baseball team against the L.A. Dodgers.
00:23And we're now in one of those weird, weird, weird moments
00:27with the New York Mets where we all kind of feel the same way.
00:30As soon as they give up a run, it just feels like it's a wrap.
00:35Like it's just too much to come back from a single run down.
00:39Only a couple hits again last night.
00:4120 consecutive innings now without a run scored.
00:44Good afternoon, Big Mac.
00:45How are you?
00:46I'm doing well, Craig.
00:47Yeah, that was an exciting game.
00:49Count the two cities, kind of, right?
00:50Count the two cities, yeah.
00:50I mean, that met offense last night against the pitcher.
00:53Atrocious.
00:53You know, I mean, eight innings for that kid to go two hits
00:57and you don't get a runner in scoring position.
00:59Yeah, not good.
01:00I mean.
01:01Not good.
01:02And then it ends on the Lindor double play.
01:04And it ends on the Lindor double play.
01:06I think I'm starting to come around.
01:07Peterson with the, not a terrible start.
01:09He gets off to the miserable first inning,
01:11but manages to battle through it, only giving up a run.
01:13Then he gives up the home run to Paz.
01:14And that's really, that's the game.
01:17And, you know, I'm starting to come around.
01:19I think what you said yesterday, if it continues,
01:25I still would be surprised.
01:26You were talking about Mendoza.
01:28Yeah, I'm talking about Mendoza.
01:29Yeah.
01:30And I did say this with you yesterday.
01:32I don't know about benching guys.
01:34I think it's overrated.
01:35I think it's more about how we feel and we want a pound of flesh
01:37than actually helping the ball club.
01:39We have seen over and over again coaching, firing, spark teams.
01:43Yes.
01:43And if it's going to look like this, and last night was just pathetic.
01:48Like it was really.
01:49It was non-competitive.
01:50It's non-competitive against the starters.
01:52They have to be able to do some damage against.
01:54And he's just going through it.
01:56Like ground ball after ground ball.
01:58I mean, it is just an ugly state of affairs for the Mets.
02:01And to just have that listless, lifeless performance.
02:04So let me stop here.
02:04You agree with me?
02:05As soon as they're down a run, it fell like it's over?
02:07No.
02:07Oh, 100%.
02:07Yeah.
02:08100%.
02:08They give up a run in the first inning.
02:09It's like, oh, there we go.
02:11Yeah, and then, I mean, you get a couple of innings in,
02:14and the offense is doing absolutely nothing.
02:16And that's the thing right now.
02:17Like, who do you trust?
02:18Like, we talked about this yesterday.
02:20With the Yankees, you knew eventually they were going to break out of it.
02:23Like, this is the run it back nature, whether you like it or not.
02:26They ended the postseason in failure, as they have since 09.
02:29There are flaws on this team.
02:30And even in a victory last night, you saw plenty of flaws with the New York Yankees.
02:34The bullpen, like, there's still issues.
02:36But you know what they are.
02:38Like, even if you're concerned what will happen in the end, you know what this team is,
02:42and you know what they're capable of.
02:43You don't know what this Met team is.
02:45And it's hard to have real faith in it as you're watching them continue to have these kind of games
02:50and an offense that absolutely stinks without Soto.
02:53Lindor's terrible.
02:54Some of the guys who started off hot have cooled off, like Vientos.
02:58And you just watch that lineup go timid into the night, and you're like, who can I point to?
03:03Who do I feel confident in that will bounce back and start to produce?
03:07And outside of maybe Lindor, like, and you assume Bichette's going to be that guy,
03:11but outside of that, there's not a lot of guys that you expect or you can lean on and say,
03:16that's okay, we saw it before.
03:18They will be fine.
03:20This is a team right now that doesn't seem to do anything well,
03:23and they are playing lifeless baseball.
03:25That was an embarrassing performance.
03:27Yeah, and that's the one pitcher you've got to get hits again,
03:30because it gets harder for you, not easier.
03:31You're Yamamoto tonight, obviously.
03:33You're seeing one of the best pitchers in baseball tonight.
03:35Right.
03:36And the dude last night, Robleski, had an ARA of four,
03:38and he's the weak link if there is one on that pitching staff.
03:42Eight innings.
03:43And he was non-competitive.
03:44Zero walks.
03:45And by the way, I said this with the Yankees, to be fair,
03:48after the five straight losses they had,
03:50and some of their games against Tampa in the weekend series,
03:54like, it's hard to watch.
03:56You know, when you're down a run, and you feel like it's over,
03:59and you're only three outs into the game.
04:02Yeah.
04:02It was the first inning.
04:03It's 1-0, and you're like, all right, like, where are we going?
04:06Are we scoring two runs tonight?
04:08And then there's a little game I think we're going to have to play together.
04:11I think we should all kind of write down a date,
04:13and we should be held to it.
04:15And whoever gets closest wins.
04:18You know, no stakes, just for the fun of it.
04:21When do you think Francisco Lindor is going to actually get his first RBI of the season?
04:26Yeah.
04:27And let that sink in for a second.
04:29We all know about his slow starts.
04:31Okay, that's fine, I suppose.
04:33But when you're a listless offense,
04:35when Juan Soto's not coming back on this road trip, it appears,
04:38and we'll have to wait to see when they come home,
04:40if he's ready to go or if not,
04:42and your best player not named Soto does not have a single RBI,
04:47and, yes, he hits it to the ground ball to end the game last night,
04:50and the New York Mets kind of meekly walk off the field with two hits,
04:55zero runs in 20 innings.
04:57This is a crisis right now for the Mets.
05:00That's why I said yesterday that if they get swept by the Dodgers
05:04and, let's say, get swept by the Cubs
05:06and go for six on this little road trip,
05:09or even one in five,
05:10and now you're another, what, four or five games under .500,
05:15already in last place, already a sinking ship,
05:18there's not a lot for you or anyone else to say,
05:21well, you've got to keep Mendoza because of blank.
05:24There's no blank.
05:25Oh, no, there's no reason to keep him.
05:26I understand that.
05:27It's just not necessarily his fault, but at some point,
05:30and, again, it's not even just the losing.
05:31It's how they're losing.
05:32Right, it's not competitive.
05:33It's not.
05:34Like if the Yankees had lost last night,
05:36you'd be livid and miserable and upset.
05:38It would have been their sixth consecutive loss.
05:40It would have been they blew a four-run lead.
05:43They blew a three-run lead in yesterday's game,
05:46and you'd be pissed.
05:47But the flip side would be, hey, the offense woke up,
05:51I suppose, right?
05:53I think I would have been pushing back with you
05:54on the whole this fun way to lose
05:56because I don't think last night would have been fun
05:59watching them blow a four-run lead, a three-run lead,
06:02a one-run lead.
06:02Right.
06:03Watching Mike Trout hit home run after home run.
06:05But you at least could have said, all right, you know what,
06:07the offense finally woke up.
06:08I could have said that.
06:09I don't know how much it would have made me happy.
06:11But, like, what's a Met fan saying today?
06:13No, a Met fan is saying today that there is just no life in this team.
06:16Yeah.
06:16There is no life in the team.
06:17And this is the team that David Stearns built,
06:19and I know you might – I don't know if you poo-poo this or minimize it.
06:23This is also the team that Francisco Indoor helped build.
06:26That's a part of this storyline here.
06:28Yeah.
06:29And when you're batting 100 and you don't have a single RBI
06:33and the team is listless, and by the way,
06:36the owner was in the building last night.
06:39I'm not sure if he stayed for the whole game.
06:40I imagine he did.
06:42Right?
06:43How does Steve Cohen go to bed last night saying,
06:46I put together a championship team?
06:48Because I did everything David Stearns asked me to do, more or less,
06:51outside of not getting Tucker, I guess, right?
06:54And this team looks like they have no interest in playing.
06:57There's no life.
06:58There's no offense.
06:59And I'll be honest, it sucks.
07:01And I actually feel bad for you, Mets fans.
07:04Like, you have no hope until September when football comes back
07:08the way they're playing right now.
07:10What a bad summer it might be.
07:12I mean, again, I know you're going to say it a lot.
07:14It's still early.
07:15I'm not ready to put them – I'm not ready to bury them.
07:18So let's have a date thing right now.
07:20Okay.
07:21You want to go first?
07:22What will be the date of Francisco Indoor's first RBI?
07:27He has zero right now.
07:28So you and I have as many RBIs as a guy making $300 million has.
07:33Right.
07:33You want to go first?
07:34Sure.
07:35Go.
07:35First RBI.
07:36April 15th.
07:37April 15th.
07:39Tomorrow.
07:40Tomorrow?
07:40Tomorrow.
07:41Why do you – is there a certain pitcher on the mound?
07:44Otani.
07:44And that's Jackie Robinson day as well.
07:47So you think his first RBI is against Otani?
07:50Yeah.
07:51Okay.
07:52I'm going Otani.
07:53Pete, you're a diehard Mets fan.
07:55I want to at least give a Mets fan because you're a Yankee fan.
07:58I'm a fake Yankee fan.
07:59But I want to give a real Mets fan an opportunity to participate in this.
08:03So Big Mac says not tonight.
08:05So no RBIs for Lindor tonight.
08:08But in the final game of the series against Otani, what do you think?
08:12Solo home run?
08:13Is that what you're looking at?
08:14Sacrifice fly.
08:15Sac fly.
08:16Okay.
08:16So –
08:16He's going to get it started with a little – you know, just like it's a buildup.
08:19Okay.
08:19It's not going to be with a bang.
08:20It's going to be, hey, runner on third, sacrifice.
08:23Okay.
08:24So a sack.
08:24I'll take out fly.
08:25So I'm taking the date and the method of RBI.
08:29Run scores on an out.
08:30Okay.
08:31RBI ground out, sack fly, something along those lines.
08:34So the date and the method of run batted in.
08:37Yes.
08:37Okay.
08:38April 15th, sacrifice.
08:40Well, yeah.
08:41Okay.
08:41So either ground out, man on third, deep fly ball, man on third.
08:45We get it.
08:46All right.
08:46Petey, give me your date for Lindor's first RBI.
08:49Go ahead.
08:50Well, first of all, you're wrong.
08:52There's no chance –
08:53No, no.
08:54I didn't ask for commentary.
08:55I didn't ask for commentary.
08:57I just wanted to say it.
08:58You wanted to say what?
08:58Go ahead and say it.
08:59That he's wrong because there's nobody that's going to be on base for him to even sack fly.
09:03So the negativity is now even bigger.
09:06Yeah.
09:06I'll give you the date of Lindor's first RBI.
09:08Go ahead.
09:08I don't have the pitching rotation for the Cubs, but I'll say I'll go April 18th.
09:13April 18th.
09:14So you think he gets it on this road trip.
09:16Yeah.
09:16And what's the method?
09:17Single, double, triple, sacrifice, home run.
09:21I think I'll have a solo shot.
09:22Solo home run.
09:23All right.
09:24So there you go.
09:26All right.
09:26Now, should we do Price is Right style where it has to happen before?
09:31Or you follow me?
09:32Or just who's closer regardless?
09:33I mean, who's closer?
09:34I'm picking tomorrow.
09:35So, I mean, if you would have told me the rules before, we can't change the rules now.
09:40It's just we're either right or you're wrong.
09:43So let me get this right.
09:45I don't think there's a winner unless they get it right.
09:47All right.
09:47So it has to be on that date.
09:49We're not going Price is Right rules.
09:51No.
09:51Or else I would just say April 19th and I'd win.
09:53This is a game where all of us theoretically could be wrong.
09:56Most likely we're all wrong.
09:57Okay.
09:58I think so, too.
09:59I think he comes home without an RBI.
10:02I do.
10:03Okay.
10:03I'll give you that.
10:04If you predict through this entire road trip.
10:06So five more games.
10:07Even if your date ends up being wrong.
10:09If you make it through the entire road trip, you win.
10:12Yeah.
10:12You'll give me the win on that?
10:13I suppose.
10:14Yes.
10:14All right.
10:15So I'm going to say.
10:16But then you have to take the L if he does.
10:18Like, if he gets it.
10:20All right.
10:20So he's picking the Cubs series.
10:21I'm picking the Dodgers series.
10:22Yeah.
10:22You're picking until they come home.
10:23I'm picking home.
10:24All right.
10:25So how about that?
10:25Okay.
10:26That's fine.
10:27So if they do it.
10:28Dodgers, Cubs, home.
10:29There you go.
10:30Okay.
10:30That's a better way to do it.
10:31If you want to have a winner.
10:32And that will even give you.
10:34I mean, at any point.
10:35Like, even if he doesn't do it on this home stand.
10:37If he makes it through the road trip, you win.
10:39Okay.
10:40Fine.
10:40That's fair.
10:41If he does it against the Dodgers the next two games.
10:42That sounds ridiculous.
10:43You have so many games.
10:44He's got.
10:44So figure he's got.
10:45Easy win.
10:46This is his name's on the show, right?
10:47Figure he's got 23 more at-bats between now and when the Mets come home.
10:51And I'm taking the hardest road.
10:52Because I'm only getting two games against the Dodgers.
10:54You're getting essentially eight to ten at-bats.
10:58Maybe.
10:58Probably six to eight at-bats.
11:00Yeah, six to eight.
11:01Probably sounds more reasonable.
11:02It's just unwatchable baseball.
11:04And the owner was there last night.
11:06Now, I don't think he said anything.
11:07I didn't see any comments from him.
11:10But that's got to be a tough spot to be in.
11:12When you go out to L.A.
11:13He's the owner of the Mets.
11:14And you're thinking, all right, maybe getting away from Citi Field.
11:17You know, we hear that a lot.
11:18Like that little rationale.
11:20Like, they just have to go on the road and they'll be just fine.
11:22It's the home crowd that's killing them.
11:24Right.
11:24Well, they went out to L.A. yesterday.
11:26Had two hits and nine more scoreless runs.
11:2920.
11:3020 straight scoreless innings.
11:32Yeah.
11:3220 straight scoreless innings.
11:34Brutal.
11:34It's April 14th.
11:35They have played 17 games.
11:37They have been shut out four times.
11:39That's a lot.
11:39That's a lot.
11:40Four times.
11:40Meanwhile, the Yankees last night, blow a four-run lead, a three-run lead, a one-run lead.
11:45But Grisham, rewarding the manager for having confidence in him.
11:48A couple of dingers.
11:49Aaron Judge, of course, two smoke shows as well.
11:53Of course, Mike Trout had two as well.
11:55That's the more like the average everyday baseball fan.
11:58We saw a game where two of the greatest players of this generation had multiple home runs.
12:03And if you saw offense throughout baseball, that's what makes last night so brutal for
12:07the Mets.
12:08The average game had 14 and a half runs last night throughout baseball.
12:11The most since the 30s.
12:13Combined.
12:13Is that right?
12:14Yeah.
12:14Because I saw the Phillies at 13 by themselves.
12:16Now, if you take all the games played last night, the average run scored combined, both
12:21teams, but the average run scored for the games played last night was 14 and a half runs.
12:27The average baseball game that played, you take all the games that played last night, the
12:31average was in each game 14 and a half runs.
12:34And the Mets had zero.
12:35The most since 1930, they had zero.
12:40Last night, there were nine hitters who had multiple home runs in the game.
12:46That's the most, only the sixth time in Major League history.
12:50So you're saying there were more multiple home run games last night than Mets hits.
12:53Only the sixth, yes.
12:56Only the sixth time in Major League history, nine or more players in a single night.
13:01And this is on a Monday where some games, some teams had off.
13:04It's a Monday or a Thursday.
13:05They had most teams off.
13:06Like, that was one of the most offensive, productive evenings in the history of the game.
13:11And they couldn't get a run in the scoring position.
13:13Yeah.
13:13That's a rough night.
13:14But yeah, for the Yankees, you got to see Mike Trout and Aaron Judge both go back and
13:18forth and look at each other.
13:19And like, it was like an awesome spectacle.
13:22It was an exciting game.
13:23Back and forth.
13:24The Yankees' bullpen sucks.
13:25We'll get to it.
13:25They've already shot Bird down to the minors.
13:28They're going to be calling up another reliever.
13:29But what you saw in this game, and it's going to play into today because now the Yankee fan
13:34is pissed again.
13:35And I was pissed yesterday.
13:36Go ahead.
13:37We're going to have to talk about this.
13:39Ben Rice, who leads Major League Baseball in OPS, who is without question, even though
13:44Judge is about to take off, and we all know Judge is the best hitter in the game, let alone
13:48the Yankees.
13:48Right now, the best hitter for the Yankees has been Ben Rice all season.
13:51Okay.
13:51Last night against the lefty, he didn't play, and we saw Paul Goldschmidt get the start.
13:57We are seeing the same thing again tonight.
13:59Two nights in a row, the best hitter on the team, and the best, as of right now, today
14:05in 17, 16 games played, the highest OPS in all of baseball on the bench for the New York
14:10Yankees.
14:10And that's a problem.
14:11It is a problem.
14:12Because you have to be an everyday player.
14:13He said that at the start of the season.
14:15He's got to be an everyday player.
14:17I don't understand why the Yankees aren't just catching him.
14:19They talked about this the minute they signed Paul Goldschmidt.
14:22They talked we would probably see Ben Rice catch more.
14:25They didn't do it almost at all outside of one game in spring training.
14:28They're talking about letting him get used to, you know, they wanted him to get a lot
14:31of first base and make sure he was comfortable there because it was important for him to
14:34be better defensively.
14:35And we're seeing that.
14:36So there was a benefit to how they handled spring.
14:38But what you're seeing now is Paul Goldschmidt and Ben Rice, the two can't play at the same
14:43time.
14:43And if you want to get him against the lefty, you got to bring in Ben Rice.
14:47But here's the, you got to bench Ben Rice.
14:49And I hate it.
14:50We all hate it.
14:50But here's the one thing I'll say.
14:52And I would ask this question to Yankee fans.
14:54And Boone was on Talking Yanks today and talked about this.
14:57I would argue that Ben Rice being on the bench, along with Grisham, won them the game last
15:04night.
15:04Because if you watched it, early on, Paul Goldschmidt gets the start leading off, double
15:08to start the game, judge hits the two-run home run, away the Yankees go.
15:12In the fifth inning, in a key spot with guys on, he goes to Ben Rice and pinch hits him
15:18for Rosario early in that game in the fifth inning.
15:21With runners on in a big spot and they walk him, it leads to the three-run home run from
15:25Grisham that breaks open the game.
15:27Ultimately, they needed more.
15:28He gets three at-bats in the game.
15:30He has a walk and a single.
15:33He's clearly important in the game, as well as the Grisham and the two-run home run.
15:36So, he liked that.
15:38Boone saw what happened last night and liked the ability to have Goldschmidt early against
15:45the lefty starter and then be able to pinch hit Rice in any big spot at any moment in the
15:49game and impact the game.
15:51And this is the one question I'll ask the Yankee fans because I don't think on the surface
15:54anybody likes the idea of Ben Rice not starting, myself included.
15:58And if I think about it, I still don't like it as I'm talking right now.
16:02But we always complain that we don't do what worked the night before.
16:05A guy gets two hits, we don't believe in hot.
16:08He'll sit the next day.
16:09Like, we always complain.
16:11Last night, without question, they won the game because of this mentality.
16:16The ability to go to Ben Rice early in the game.
16:18So, you're upset or you're not upset?
16:20I don't like it, but I also see some of the logic in it.
16:24Okay.
16:24And I'm just curious.
16:25You should prefer Ben Rice just starts.
16:27I would just play him, and if I want to get Goldschmidt in the lineup, I would catch him.
16:30I don't want him to be the straight-up backup catcher, catching two times a week.
16:33But if I'm going to force Goldschmidt into the lineup, I think they could be able to catch him a
16:38little bit.
16:38But my point is just this, and it's a question of the Yankee fans because I'm curious how they view
16:42it.
16:43We always complain they don't do what worked.
16:46Last night, I would argue, having the ability to go to Ben Rice in a critical situation early in the
16:51game,
16:51still get multiple at-bats and have a major impact while giving Goldschmidt the early ability to hit the left
16:57-handed starter,
16:58won them the game.
16:59We'll get into that with your calls, 888-808-1019.
17:03We'll let MedFans kind of vent today.
17:05We also have Ryan Glasspiegel coming on from Front Office Sports talking about the Vrabel-Rosini stuff,
17:12which lives to see another day.
17:14We've got breaking New York Giants news this afternoon,
17:17as Nikki Gista is going to give us the breaking story that involves the front office of the New York
17:23Giants and Joe Shane.
17:24So I'm interested in hearing that.
17:27And we might have Jordan Schultz stopped by today because there's a thought process out there that comes from Jordan
17:33Schultz
17:34that the New York Giants and the Dallas Cowboys are going to be fighting in this draft for the same
17:41player.
17:42So lots cooking today.
17:44We start with all the baseball.
17:45We get to the football, and we get your calls throughout, 888-808-1019.
17:52When do you think Francisco Lindor is going to get his first RBI?
17:57Lots cooking on a gorgeous Tuesday in New York, exclusively on The Fan.
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