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00:00This time on Moonshiners.
00:03Hey, guys.
00:04We've had several complaints on you all.
00:06All I know is he said the calls were coming in
00:08from a landline phone at a motel in Newport, Tennessee.
00:14A rat, especially an anonymous rat,
00:17there's no bigger chicken nothing in the world than that.
00:21How are you pulling in?
00:22Yeah, there he comes. Look at that.
00:24Son of a bitch.
00:26Let's work together.
00:27I got a buyer wants 1,000 gallons
00:29paying top dollar.
00:30You know, these guys, I mean, they come in,
00:32they burn their mustache house, right?
00:33They run us out of the state.
00:35Well, in order for me to get back at them,
00:37I got to kind of, you know, bait these guys.
00:39I can't stand to be around these.
00:41I know. I know.
00:42Just play the game, man.
00:43All right, I'm trying, man.
00:44Play the game.
00:46This is how we make the moonshine.
00:59Who the hell is this?
01:03What are you doing here?
01:04What's up, man?
01:05How are you?
01:06Pretty good, man.
01:07I ain't here to taste you today.
01:09Thank goodness, because you laid it to me last time.
01:11I know it.
01:13In Polk County, North Carolina,
01:16after barely escaping a law enforcement raid
01:19on his illegal still site...
01:21They just took part of the still now.
01:23Josh gets a visit from a retired police officer
01:27and friend bringing inside information.
01:30Talking to your uncle the other day,
01:31and he said you bought a sawmill,
01:33and I was gonna see if he was interested
01:34in cutting some trailer decking boards for me.
01:36Bring me some wood. I can cut it.
01:38I've known Trenton my whole life,
01:40but Trenton was the law.
01:42A couple years ago, Trent actually tased me.
01:44Stop police! Stop police!
01:47He's retired from the police department,
01:49and he's got a land management company,
01:52an excavating business, a tree business.
01:54He does it all.
01:55You still making that liquor?
01:56Uh-uh.
01:58Yeah, I don't know.
02:00Huh?
02:01He was on a job the other day.
02:03He called me and needed to take a still down.
02:06And I got thinking where we was at.
02:07This is all close to Josh's folks.
02:11So I didn't know if it might have been yours or not.
02:13I don't know.
02:15They hired Trent to bring his excavator out,
02:17pull everything out of the still site.
02:18He said when he was pulling everything out of there,
02:20he was thinking that it all might be mine.
02:23Well, it was my setup what they got.
02:25Oh, really?
02:26Yeah.
02:27I was kind of afraid of that.
02:28Yeah.
02:29Just the way the guys was talking,
02:32you know, I overheard them talking about,
02:35you know, they had numerous tips
02:37on several different still sites.
02:40They even told them there was somebody up in Tennessee
02:42making something.
02:44I didn't ask a whole lot of questions
02:45because I said I wasn't there to get involved
02:48during the investigation.
02:49I was there to tear a still down.
02:50Weird.
02:51All I gathered from them,
02:53they had anomalous phone calls on multiple occasions
02:56coming from a motel in Newport.
02:59That makes no sense.
03:01But if he was wanting to be anonymous.
03:04Whoever's ratting me out,
03:05supposedly ratting out a bunch of other moonshiners.
03:08That don't make any sense either
03:10because how'd they get that much business?
03:12Like how they know that much?
03:14Can you find out any more info?
03:15That's one of them kind of things.
03:17I ain't in the loop.
03:19I just, I was there getting paid to take a still down.
03:21I probably shouldn't even told you any of this.
03:23It's going to drive me crazy.
03:24I probably shouldn't even been telling you any of this,
03:26but you know, we've been friends for a long time.
03:30Thank you, man.
03:31Stay safe.
03:31Stay out of trouble.
03:32Too big.
03:34Somebody's ratting me out.
03:35I want to know who it is and why.
03:45Whoop, damn.
03:46How's it feel being coordinated there, Grace?
03:48Earth started spinning in a different direction.
03:52In Cock County, Tennessee,
03:55after scoring thousands of dollars worth of surplus wheat for free.
04:00Maybe we're going to need a bigger truck.
04:02Mark and Digger have to improvise a recipe with unfamiliar ingredients
04:06to make a profitable late season run.
04:10The thing about this, puss,
04:12we've got so much of this wheat,
04:13we can use all the hell of it we want to.
04:16Yeah.
04:17Here we go.
04:19This is a new recipe all the way around.
04:22New grain that we don't normally use
04:24and a new strain of apples that we don't normally use.
04:28Looking fine.
04:30This wheat grinds really, really quick.
04:33It's a real soft grain that grinds fast.
04:36We've got our water heating up in Big Sloppy
04:38and then we'll pump it over on the sugar and the grain.
04:42Boy, that'll really smell good when we lay them apples to it.
04:45You ain't .
04:47We've got three bushels of apples
04:49and we're going to grind them up so they'll break down.
04:52Yeah, them apples don't never grind themselves.
04:56That's a getting them, ain't it?
04:57Yep.
05:00Mmm.
05:01Damn.
05:01That hurt?
05:03A little bit.
05:04That's gonna have a little protein in it.
05:06Just a little bit.
05:08That's good for liquor too.
05:09We're going with the Golden Delicious.
05:11It's more of a mealy cooking apple,
05:13but they've got good flavor,
05:15so hopefully it'll play out well this week.
05:17Boy, three bushels don't grind enough to look like much, do they?
05:20No, but it spreads out in that mash mighty fine.
05:23Sprinkle a little enzyme in it, stir it up,
05:25let it get to working.
05:26Beyond shredding up this fruit,
05:28we also throw pectic enzymes.
05:30What that does is break down the cell membrane,
05:32the cell wall if you will,
05:34and it opens up to let all that juice out
05:36and it goes from being a pulp to a liquid.
05:38You just throw these apples in here willy-nilly,
05:41you won't get all the flavor out of them.
05:43That pectic enzyme breaks down all that fiber.
05:46It cooks up better, it runs liquor better,
05:49more flavor comes to the party.
05:51These Golden Delicious,
05:52they might bring something better to the table.
05:54You know, we're going to let it steep the hot water,
05:57then we'll top it off, pitch the yeast,
05:59let Mother Nature do her magic.
06:01And this right here's got the potential
06:03to put us some really good money in our pockets.
06:06Oh yeah, almost immediately.
06:08All we got to do now is wait on it to make us some alcohol.
06:12That's about down to 10th.
06:14It is. Boy, that's nice, ain't it?
06:16It is. We'll tarp this rascal off.
06:18After the tampon quits the buzzer.
06:21Hell, that's your, I'll show it.
06:22Why's Josh be calling on our emergency phone?
06:26Hey man, what's going on?
06:27Hi, I got an issue.
06:29I need to talk to you.
06:31Well, tell you what, you remember that old chicken house
06:34we met at a couple of years ago?
06:36Yeah.
06:37Okay, meet me at that chicken house.
06:40Tomorrow?
06:40About 5 o'clock.
06:42Alright.
06:44That didn't sound good, did it?
06:46You know, this phone that we're using now,
06:48that's like the glass over the fire extinguisher
06:50in the school hallway.
06:51You break it in case of an emergency.
06:53It made something worrying him, ain't it?
07:10Alright.
07:14Where's that back of yours, man?
07:18Tickle, let's fire this thing up.
07:20Right up, Tickle.
07:21Let's do it, boss.
07:22Let the gas on him.
07:23Gotcha, brother.
07:24Light it up, buddy.
07:26That's what I'm talking about.
07:27Alright.
07:28Hey!
07:30In Culpeper County, Virginia, long-time legal distiller turned outlaw moonshiner Tim Smith
07:37is pioneering a lucrative cross-border operation to dodge tariffs in Canada.
07:43But after discovering a violent crew of rival shiners operating in the woods nearby,
07:49the threat of conflict on the home front is growing fast.
07:53We've got to up the proof.
07:54We've got to get at least 150 proof.
07:56Well, 150 proof, that means we're running this stuff twice, right?
07:59We've got to get mashed in because they've got this Canadian order.
08:02And it's looking like it's going to be like a regular thing, like every two weeks.
08:06So, you know, we've got to go ahead and just start making as much moonshine as we can,
08:09kind of stockpiling it, you know, stashing it away because every time that plane lands,
08:14we want to load it up.
08:15Whatever we've got to do, we've got to make it 150 proof.
08:17Yeah, we have to.
08:18That way they can water it down when they get there and they sell it at 100.
08:21So you're not shipping as many gallons?
08:23Yeah.
08:24We've just got to conserve space.
08:25They're putting this stuff in an airplane.
08:26These orders are going up every two weeks and they're going to be going up on an airplane.
08:31So what idea we've come up with is to make this as high proof as we possibly can.
08:37So that's less that we've got to ship.
08:39And once it gets up to Canada, they can be proof back down and be that many more gallons.
08:44This is guaranteed money, man.
08:46Tell you one thing.
08:47You know as well as I do, nothing's guaranteed when you leave it.
08:51My phone's ringing now.
08:54Some kind of crazy number.
08:56Hello.
08:59Hey, I found this damn number on my site down here.
09:01Who is this?
09:02Hey, you know who this is.
09:04Yeah.
09:05I put that number down there.
09:07Oh, yeah, it's you, huh?
09:09Yeah.
09:11So the other day, Henry and Tickle, they saw this still site.
09:14These were the guys that burned down our stash house.
09:18So we left a note on the still site why that was gone that, you know, we know who they
09:22are.
09:22Let's see if we can't, you know, negotiate something here and figure out, you know, a better plan.
09:27Why did you leave your gnome anyway, man?
09:29Well, we need to talk about this situation because, look, you owe us a thousand gallons plus.
09:34We could go ahead and take your steel as is right now and then put you in the river.
09:39Ha, ha, ha.
09:40They won't be an upper lid you left behind you.
09:43Well, now you do the green skin you alive.
09:45You just, you just, you just, you just ease, you just ease up, catfish.
09:49I'm telling you, you don't know who you're messing with neither.
09:51We already know who you are, where you at and what you're doing.
09:55We already got a picture of you too.
10:00You're in the woods.
10:02You're trying to make money.
10:03I'm in the woods.
10:04I'm trying to make money.
10:05You know, we, we in the same business.
10:07All right.
10:08We kind of on the same side, but right now we not on the same side.
10:12Let, let, let's talk about this thing a little bit.
10:17Let's talk about it and see how we can come to a, to agreement.
10:23All right.
10:23We'll be there tonight waiting on your ass.
10:25All right.
10:25Well, we'll be down there then.
10:27All right.
10:27We'll be over there in a little bit then.
10:28You'll see some headlights come in.
10:31We'll make a deal, a verbal deal that you make it and we'll buy it.
10:36We'll, we'll bring them grain, whatever.
10:39You know what I'm saying?
10:39We'll bring them supplies.
10:40You know what I'm saying?
10:41We'll butter them up, bring them a biscuit, whatever.
10:44You know, get these guys, make the moonshine and we take it.
10:48Just keep on taking it until we get our stuff back.
10:54All right.
10:54Let's do it then.
10:55We're going to do it.
10:56Let's do it.
10:56Let's do it.
10:56We basically mashed in now anyways.
10:58Yeah, cover them up.
10:59Let's go.
10:59Cover it up, son.
11:00Let's get out of here.
11:01All right.
11:02Now I don't like the idea of rolling up into somebody else's steel site, especially at night.
11:08We don't know how many of them's there.
11:09We don't know what we're walking into.
11:11But this is the risk that we've got to take in order to be able to set these guys up
11:16and our plan to work.
11:27We'll get over here, right?
11:30Maybe let me do the talk.
11:32I don't even want to go over here.
11:34We can size up the situation, right?
11:36We've got to get them to work for us.
11:38I don't trust these guys.
11:40Well, no.
11:40I don't trust them either.
11:41I don't even know who they are.
11:42But we've got to negotiate a deal where, you know, we won't be fighting and stuff.
11:48Because, you know, I can't have no war going on right now where we've got to get this order.
11:52We've got to get this moonshine.
11:54I've kind of got a plan in my head.
11:56We get down there.
11:57We find out who these guys are.
11:59And, you know, maybe we make a deal with these guys.
12:01Right now, I've got this Canadian order.
12:02We really need to fill this pipeline, you know?
12:04I need them to make me that moonshine back that they took from us.
12:09We don't need a war with moonshiners in the woods right now.
12:12I hope you know what you're doing, Tim.
12:14Just give me an opportunity.
12:15And if we can make a deal and make it work.
12:18No telling how many of them are down here.
12:21No telling.
12:21So we've got to be careful, man.
12:24All right.
12:25All right.
12:26Let's go do it.
12:33Let's go see what we're working with here.
12:41Look at them lights down there.
12:45Hey, guys.
12:46It's us.
12:46We're coming in.
12:52Uh-huh.
12:58Well, who was on the phone?
13:01That was me.
13:02Okay.
13:02You're getting pretty smart on the phone.
13:04No, you don't get pretty smart with me, buddy.
13:06You don't look too smart right now.
13:07Well, bring it on.
13:08You're down in my tariff.
13:09Who's back?
13:10This ain't your tariff.
13:13Y'all stole our .
13:14Y'all stole our liquors, what you did.
13:17You burned the damn stash house down.
13:20There's 1,000 gallons of liquor in that darn stash house.
13:23To be honest, me and Henry, we're just ready to kick these guys' asses and be done with
13:27it.
13:29So what you gonna be?
13:31You said you and your buddy was in here.
13:33What's these guys?
13:34We figured you'd bring some back up, so we brought us a few back up.
13:38I think we need to talk about it now.
13:42We all mean the liquor business, right?
13:45Right.
13:45Correct.
13:46And that's the whole problem here.
13:47Y'all interrupting, we trying to make liquor.
13:51Look, think about this, guys.
13:52We could've already turned y'all guys in, but we don't work that way.
13:55And we don't go burning people's stash house down like y'all did.
14:00We got plenty of sales.
14:02We just need some liquor made.
14:03If you're willing to make the liquor, we'll take the liquor.
14:07You ain't got to deal with nobody else, just me.
14:10So what make you think we don't have any sales, man?
14:13Well, you probably got buyers, but you ain't got no buyer like I got.
14:15I've been out here a long time, buddy.
14:18Well, I have too.
14:20Listen now, let's work together.
14:22I got a buyer wants a thousand gallons, paying top dollar.
14:26What's top dollar?
14:28$75 a gallon.
14:30You ain't gonna get that in the woods right here.
14:33$75 a gallon.
14:36I don't know.
14:40$75 a gallon and all the materials.
14:43I bring it in, I haul it out.
14:47All I gotta do is make it.
14:48All you gotta do is make it, just like you're doing now.
14:51You know, these guys, I mean, they come in, they burn their mustache house, right?
14:54They run us out of the state.
14:56Well, in order for me to get back at them, I gotta kind of, you know, bait these guys
15:00to think that they getting a good deal, right?
15:02But not such a good deal, you know, because they may think it's too good.
15:06But I want to pay them enough to get them to work, to make the moon shine,
15:10so really at the end I can get back at them.
15:12You run with it, we pick up the product, take it out.
15:15Y'all picking it up, nobody else.
15:18Guaranteed.
15:19Well, I can group that.
15:21I'm willing to work with y'all, Stevie.
15:24Yep.
15:25If everybody gets done right, it shouldn't be no more bull .
15:28That sounds a better deal.
15:30As soon as we got some raw ingredients together, we'll let you know, all right?
15:33Let's make some damn money.
15:42How much liquor did that old boy say he needed?
15:44Well, he didn't really say.
15:45He knew he wanted apples and grain.
15:48I knew we had all this wheat, so I just pointed him down that road.
15:52I think we ought to just go ahead and make a big run of it.
15:55And if it is good, if he don't want it all, it won't be no trouble to sell.
15:58We've got to go meet Josh and see what's got him all riled up a little bit.
16:03He's got something on his mind that's bothering him, but first we've got to pick up some more of this
16:06red top wheat.
16:08Red wheat's turned out to be pretty special to this apple mash, and we really think it's going to be
16:13an opportunity to make a little money here on the lash that will carry us over through the winter.
16:18All right, wheat, here we come.
16:20You know, the way things have been going, we don't have a lot of warehouse space to keep a lot
16:25of grain.
16:25And the guy that owns this farm said we could use this barn to store it in.
16:29We're more than happy to do that.
16:35Well, that's what we've got to get some of.
16:37Well, you want to just set that sack up in the back of the truck, or you want to bail
16:41it out there a little at a time?
16:42Well, we better bail it out there a little at a time.
16:45You know, given the way we've been under constant scrutiny the past few years, but the law, I don't want
16:51to keep anything around in our hands that can be construed into making liquor with it.
16:56If we can keep it someplace else, that's all the better.
16:59You know, I'm kind of excited about making this apple wheat liquor.
17:04I'm just excited to make some liquor we might be able to make a nickel off of.
17:08Wheat has a smooth, earthy-type note to it, so to speak, and I'm thinking it could be something really
17:16special.
17:17But like Jim Tom one time told us, you don't know what you're going to make until you put it
17:21in a still and cook it.
17:25Was that a damn police car that just went by that door?
17:28He was going awful slow, wasn't he?
17:30It's a little bit concerning.
17:32I mean, they may just be watching this place if there's a lot of money and equipment here.
17:38I'll lie me down.
17:41Hell, he's coming back in the car from here.
17:44He's just stopping.
17:48Yeah, here he comes.
17:52Hey, guys.
17:53Hey.
17:54Hey, how you doing, officer?
17:56What's going on?
17:58We're just getting a little of this weed.
18:00I got a little patch of land I need to put out for a cover crop before it weeds up
18:04over the winter.
18:05How you doing, sir?
18:06Good.
18:08Hey, can you back up for me?
18:11What's really going on here, guys?
18:13Oh, we ain't lying to you, Deputy.
18:15We're getting this winter wheat here.
18:17They had a bunch of it.
18:18Couldn't get rid of it and had to get a silo emptied for corn.
18:21Okay.
18:22Well, we're familiar with all the ingredients to some illegal moonshining.
18:26Just know that we've had several complaints on you all.
18:29Well, no.
18:29We're well aware of what y'all are doing, okay?
18:32Just know we're watching y'all, okay?
18:34Well, I appreciate the warning, sir.
18:37You be safe, sir.
18:41Son of a bitch.
18:44I just don't understand.
18:46I mean, as low-key as we've been this year and making very little liquor at all,
18:53there's something fishy here.
18:55I'm having a hard time sorting it out.
18:57He didn't just stumble up on us to tell us they're getting complaints.
19:01Somehow or another, they knew we was here, because you can't see from the road.
19:05If it's been any other year other than right now, I might take a little more heed, but we ain't
19:12made no liquor to speak of.
19:13We can't let this live in our head.
19:15I think it's just a smokescreen.
19:17I think this boy just tried to make us flinch.
19:19He may be just trying to buffalo us a little.
19:22Yeah, I think that's it in a nutshell.
19:24You know, I don't care who you are.
19:25You can be Jesse James, but when the law shows up, your heart still goes up in your throat.
19:32But at the end of the day, we're not going to let it live in our heads.
19:35We've got this new wheat apple liquor.
19:37It seems to be really good to folks.
19:39I'll get the door, puss.
19:40All right.
19:41Before we go get mashed in, though, we've got to go see Josh.
19:44He seems to have an issue that's bothering him, and we can't leave him hanging high on that right now.
20:08I'm getting this corn, I'm getting this grain.
20:11We brought in some extra shiners to help us make this liquor for the Canadian buyer.
20:16You know, things got a little bit heated when we first started approaching these guys.
20:20These are the guys that I ran into early in the season.
20:24They burned down their stash house.
20:25They kind of run, you know, me and Howard out of the state.
20:29But since then, you know, we've kind of come to a agreement.
20:31I'm going to supply them with the goods like, you know, grain, sugar, jugs, whatever they need.
20:36They're going to take the risk to make the moonshine, to help me fulfill this order going to the Canadian
20:41buyer.
20:42They need to work with me, so really, at the end, I can get back at these guys.
20:53Oh, that's Howard now.
20:55Howard.
20:56Hey, Tim!
20:57Yeah, what are you doing?
20:59Oh, my God.
21:00You got to come here to Canada and immerse yourself in the culture.
21:03They got greatest coffee and donuts in the world, man.
21:06I came up with the idea to send Howard up to Canada, you know, to kind of snoop around, go
21:11to some bars,
21:12find out, you know, what's going on up there, what's selling and what ain't selling, what's needed.
21:16Well, you know, with all the tariffs taking effect between America and Canada, you know,
21:22and no American whiskey is getting into Canada, that's an opportunity, and that's where I want to be.
21:27What's them bottles back there?
21:29What's that on them bottles?
21:30Those are called sample bottles, Tim.
21:32Sample?
21:33Howard, I didn't send you to do no sampling.
21:35I send you to find out what's settling, not sampling, settling.
21:38Well, why did I buy it?
21:39Look, you need to go to these bars, right?
21:42Go do a little bar hopping, find out what they drinking, you know, get to know these people,
21:47and then find out do they want some moonshine or not.
21:50Howard needs to go out there and look a little bit more, you know, go to bars, talk to people,
21:55find out, you know, what do people really want up there?
21:58You know, do we have a market to provide more moonshine than actually what this Canadian buyer is telling me?
22:03Go to the boss, find out if they interested in moonshine, you know, American, you know what I'm saying,
22:09from down south, then we find out what's going on.
22:12I'm going to talk to my fellow Canadians, eh?
22:14Yeah, yeah, that's right.
22:15I'll tell you all about it.
22:16That's all about it.
22:17It's not about it.
22:18It's a boot around here.
22:19I'll tell you all about it.
22:20Well, just make sure you stay in control now.
22:23Don't lose control.
22:25All right, call me back if you need something.
22:27Give me an update now.
22:28Oh, I'll update you.
22:29All right, see ya.
22:32You know, right now in Canada, I mean, this is a massive market right now.
22:36You know, tear-free moonshine, no taxes.
22:39I need Howard to focus on what he's doing and what we need here,
22:42because I can't miss this opportunity.
22:51Well, you reckon we've got Josh worked up to, he's such a fever pitch,
22:54he has to talk to us right now.
22:56I don't know, but it's something troubling him, ain't it?
22:59It's got to be something pretty fierce for him to drive all the way over here,
23:03Columbus, North Carolina.
23:05A simple favor would be easy enough just to ask for on the phone.
23:10Making a little extra money with homemade liquor ain't as easy as it once was, Hattie.
23:15It is not.
23:17Man Digger, we're headed to meet our old buddy Josh.
23:20He seems all jazzed up and fired up about something.
23:23We don't really know what he's got on his mind.
23:26Go in here where it's dry.
23:28And we like him and you know, if he's got a problem that we can help him with,
23:32we certainly want to.
23:34How you doing big daddy?
23:37You look good, everything good?
23:38Man, I'll tell you right now, it ain't been good.
23:43What's happened?
23:45Boys, I got busted by the law.
23:48You went to jail?
23:50No.
23:52They ratted my still site, took all my stuff.
23:55I don't know how in the world, but somebody's done ratted me out.
24:01How did you find out that you got ratted out, Josh?
24:04So my buddy Trent that was helping bust up my still site used to be a cop, but he's not
24:09anymore.
24:10He runs the tree service and they were using his track hoe to pull all my out from underground
24:14still site.
24:14He overheard the cops saying that we were getting ratted out by anonymous calls.
24:20You ain't gonna believe where it's coming from.
24:23I wouldn't have a clue.
24:26From my motel here in Cock County.
24:29The hell you say?
24:32You're getting this information from your ex-cop friend.
24:36All I know is he said the calls were coming in from a landline phone at a motel in Newport,
24:43Tennessee.
24:44And on top of that, found out some more info.
24:49Apparently they're telling on other moonshiners as well.
24:54That explains a little more about our visit from our officer.
24:58Yep.
24:58We had to laup us a little visit.
25:00We was getting some grapes.
25:01A rat, especially an anonymous rat, there's no bigger chicken nothing in the world than
25:09that.
25:10Well, only one thing we can do boys.
25:13We're going to get out on the hunt and try to figure out where this motel is.
25:16You know, the thing about it is, Puss, there's not that many of them.
25:20Yeah, they're just a handful of them at each exit.
25:22They're just a handful.
25:22But, I mean, that could be a lot of rooms.
25:25It really could if they've all got landlines in them.
25:28A middle in a haystack right there.
25:30Well, we got to find out a designated phone that he's a-calling from or she's a-calling
25:35from, whatever the hell it is.
25:37So from what Josh's friend knows and what he's related to him, this is one location all
25:43these calls are coming from.
25:44So the guy's either renting a room all the time or he's using the lobby phone all the
25:49time.
25:50Well, I say let's head toward the town.
25:52Let's go look them out.
25:54Let's start staking them out or what?
25:55Well, we're going to go talk to some desk clerks.
25:57We've got to narrow it down which one it's coming from first.
26:00Then we'll decide what to do.
26:03Let's go.
26:03Let's go.
26:04Let's go.
26:04We need to find out all we can about this son of a bitch.
26:08Not only to help Josh, but if he's running into the same problem, we want to certainly
26:13put this rat out of business before he can pop a cap on us, so to speak.
26:18Then boys, let's go to town and see what we can figure out.
26:26Are you sure you want to do this, Tim?
26:28What if we supply them all this materials and then they just take the liquor?
26:34What are you going to do?
26:35We're going to watch them.
26:36I got it under control right now.
26:38I hope so, man.
26:39We got them where I want them.
26:42We bringing in the grain, bringing in the sugar.
26:44They're going to make the liquor and then we're going to take it.
26:46I hope so, man.
26:48Some time back, I ran into these rival shiners and they threatened me and stuff.
26:52Next thing you know, our site was burned down.
26:55Our stash house got burned down.
26:57So we'd meet them and I kind of tricked them a little bit to work for us.
27:02At least we can work together for a little while.
27:04I can get this Canadian order going.
27:06Then I can work a plan on how I can get my payback.
27:10That's what I'm going to do.
27:11Let's play the game.
27:18By the time you're getting here.
27:20All right.
27:21We got some grain.
27:22We got some sugar.
27:25Come on and get this stuff.
27:26So you got it loaded up off.
27:28Well, I got what you need.
27:31Don't act like we're stupid.
27:32Don't make us with that damn river this evening.
27:34Ain't going to be no putting no river.
27:35You're on our turf, man.
27:37I don't trust either one of y'all.
27:40You want to trust y'all?
27:40I don't trust a damn thing that y'all do, a damn thing that y'all said y'all are
27:43going to do.
27:44I'm telling y'all one more thing.
27:45Do y'all think I'm going to steal our stuff again?
27:47What do you mean again?
27:48We know what y'all did.
27:50I know what y'all did.
27:52You better work out.
27:54Let's get this stuff.
27:55I don't like it one damn bit.
27:57I'm turning it on right now.
27:59You can't make no look unless you mash in.
28:01That's right.
28:01So get the grain.
28:02Get the sugar.
28:05What do y'all think we're going to do all the work?
28:07Y'all ain't grip the tube down now?
28:09Nah, I brought it down here.
28:13Y'all try to mash in and make you look.
28:15You know, we kind of want to wash these guys a little bit.
28:18You know, how they're going to mash in, you know, the ratios, how they're heating the water up,
28:22how they're putting the grain in, sugar in.
28:24I don't know what kind of moonshine they make.
28:26It's got to be somewhat halfway good because we've got to send it to Canada.
28:31I can't stand to be around these.
28:34I know.
28:35I know.
28:35I know.
28:37Just play the game, man.
28:38All right, I'm trying, man.
28:39Play the game.
28:40I'm trying.
28:45Get this paper mashed in.
28:51Oh, yeah, baby.
28:53Throw that grain to it, y'all.
29:02There's some of the sugar y'all put in y'all's mash.
29:04The more sugar we put, we'll get a little bit more alcohol return, maybe.
29:08But we need all the alcohol we can get.
29:11So let's go and put it in there.
29:13So far, I mean, I think they've got some experience in moonshining.
29:17I mean, I don't think they've got it as the experience, let's say, me and Henry does.
29:21But I think they can make some liquor.
29:22Get this mashed in and make sure we get the liquor.
29:24When we get it mashed in, y'all give it, we'll holler at you when we're done.
29:28Y'all get the liquor.
29:30Just make the liquor.
29:31Just make the liquor.
29:32Just make the liquor.
29:32We're going to give you the damn liquor when we get done.
29:34All right?
29:34If you can make much liquor you run your mouth, we can have a whole lot of liquor.
29:37What did I just say?
29:38Y'all get every drop of it we make.
29:40We'll get every drop of it.
29:40When you ready, I want to pick it up.
29:41Don't be sitting around waiting.
29:43All right.
29:44We'll call us, we'll call you.
29:49We'll call you.
29:51Damn.
29:53What's wrong with these people, man?
29:55I don't know if you want to do one hell of a gamble.
30:01We're going to be in a fight before the end of this.
30:03I see it already.
30:12Well, this won't be hard to narrow down, puss.
30:14There ain't that many motels the next I-40.
30:18But even if it's more than one, how you going to figure that out?
30:20Well, they're going to ask them if they've seen anybody coming in using their telephone.
30:24Just going to go right up in there and ask them?
30:25Well, they're processed elimination.
30:27If you've got multiple targets, what do you do?
30:29You shoot them down one at a time.
30:31Well, Josh, he came to us with a problem he'd had about a snitch, and actually got his
30:37still sight busted, and he asked us for some help.
30:39We know it's a motel.
30:41It's in Newport.
30:42I mean, they ain't over three or four.
30:44Whoever this son-bitch is that's coming in here and ratting people out, he's stopping
30:48at a little seedy motel close to the interstate, and I don't know who this is doing this, but
30:52we're going to put a stop to it.
30:54This right here is a motel.
30:58Let's just drive around it and look and check it out.
31:02It's really upsetting to us that there's a rat right here in our hometown, but it gives
31:07a little light to us while we were approached by law enforcement just recently as well.
31:12How do you just poke your head in this office lobby here and see if they've had anybody odd
31:20come in to use their telephone?
31:22We have to consider the fact that the same person that's ratting Josh out is also making
31:28calls on us.
31:30He's getting all the answers he needs right there.
31:39That wasn't it, no landline whatsoever in any of the rooms.
31:44The clerk in there told me they don't even have landlines anywhere.
31:47They're simply a cell phone operation.
31:51Well, on to the next.
31:54I don't see how we're going to figure anything out.
31:56Oh, just lay back and watch.
31:58We'll figure it out, Josh.
32:00Keep the faith.
32:02The only thing that we do have working in our favor is there's not many motels.
32:08And all the ones that we have are right beside Interstate 40 at the exit.
32:14This can't work.
32:16It can't be these.
32:18These are hotels.
32:19We've got to put a stop to this son of a bitch one way or the other.
32:22We've got to figure out who he is or we're pretty much out of business at this point.
32:27Loop around this building anyway.
32:29Just see what you think.
32:32Just for giggles.
32:34We pull up on this one particular motel and there's just something about the atmosphere
32:40here that makes us feel like we might have some success here.
32:44So we're going to speak with the clerk and see if they will even give us any information.
32:49How you doing, ma'am?
32:50How can I help you?
32:53Yeah, we're kind of looking for a little information.
32:56We've been getting some phone calls that aren't been, they ain't been real friendly.
33:01And we're trying to figure out who it is and we've tracked it down to a number here at this
33:06hotel.
33:07What we do know, they've been coming a couple times a week and they're coming from a landline number.
33:14We don't mean anything ill by trying to find out, we just want to put a stop to the phone
33:18call.
33:18It's just harassment to us.
33:20We need to convince her that we're sure that they are and maybe she'll be willing to work with us
33:26a little more.
33:27We know they're coming from this location.
33:30I mean we have landlines here but everybody has a cell phone.
33:33We don't have actual phones in the room so I'm not quite sure.
33:36So you don't even have phones in the rooms.
33:39These days the only landline I have would be my office phone here.
33:43Anybody come in on a regular basis to borrow it?
33:46No.
33:47It's the only landline on property.
33:50Well, no.
33:51We have another one at the pool but, you know, we have a phone out there so, you know, in
33:58the summertime when people use it in case they get hurt.
34:00I mean, it's possible somebody could have got it.
34:03It's at the fence.
34:04I mean, anybody can reach over there and grab a hole.
34:06That'd be a pretty easy grab.
34:08Right up there on that fence?
34:10Yes, sir.
34:11Huh.
34:22Oh.
34:23Yeah.
34:24Howard's coming here.
34:26Howard.
34:26What are you doing?
34:27I'm doing what you told me.
34:29I'm at the bar.
34:30I'm beating that body.
34:31I'm finding that was a local freak.
34:32All right, Howard, you done drank enough, man.
34:34Got you playing home, brother.
34:36Yeah.
34:36Listen, I don't know if I want to come back home.
34:39Yeah, I...
34:40I'm Canadian right here, okay?
34:42Good boy.
34:43Crazy.
34:44You can't speak French.
34:45All right.
34:46Good boy.
34:46You're crazy.
34:46You can't speak French.
34:47If you're trying to get back here, I might have to send Tickle up out and get you.
34:49For real, I am wearing what we call here in the States Canadian tuxedo.
34:55Uh-oh.
34:56Oh, you see?
34:58What?
35:00He's not worried about liquor.
35:01He's worried about the women.
35:02I'll be holding home.
35:03Bye.
35:04He won't ever get back, probably.
35:05He has two or three women all around you.
35:07Well, it's because they feel like he's got money.
35:08He's got all that denim on him.
35:10Uh-huh.
35:15It's the only landline on Broadway.
35:17Well, no.
35:18We have another one at the pool, but, you know...
35:22Oh, the one on...
35:23Yeah, the one.
35:24It says 911 on it.
35:25Over there.
35:25Right.
35:25It says 911, but I mean, our pool's not even open.
35:28Josh was ratted out by an anonymous tip that told him where his steel sites were located.
35:34Law chased him down, seized his equipment.
35:36Yes.
35:36These phone calls were coming from one location in Cock County, Tennessee.
35:41You hadn't noticed anybody at it, though?
35:44No.
35:44It wouldn't be no big deal at all for anybody to use that one to us.
35:47Not really.
35:48We have to consider the fact that the same person that's ratted Josh out is also making
35:54calls on us.
35:56I mean, if that phone right there's got a damn dial tone on it, I mean, he could park right
36:01there in that parking lot and reach across the fence.
36:04If it's actually a working...
36:05If it's a working phone...
36:07Yep.
36:09Is there one in there?
36:11Yeah, it's in there.
36:13Got a dial tone?
36:14I don't know.
36:17Oh, yeah.
36:18It's got a dial tone.
36:20Honestly, it could park right there.
36:21Yeah.
36:22Josh would come and just reach across this fence, get that phone call and be gone.
36:26She'd never know it.
36:27That'd be easy as pie.
36:28That'd be easy as pie.
36:29I mean, she wouldn't ever notice that.
36:31Uh-uh.
36:31I mean, if I was trying to keep my identity.
36:34It could be a secret and remain anonymous.
36:36There ain't no better phone in the world than using this one right here.
36:45You got cameras in here, what's the chances you got a camera out there pointing on that
36:50pole?
36:51Oh, I have one.
36:54How often did you say these calls have been coming to you?
36:57I don't know exactly.
36:58Just a couple times a week is what he says.
37:00Okay.
37:02I'm thinking it would be in the last four days.
37:05Yeah.
37:05If somebody's used that phone, it would pick up, yes.
37:08Do you care to look at that security footage for us?
37:10Just let you know.
37:11Let us know if you see somebody over there.
37:13I would have to look into that and get back with y'all because that's something we just
37:17don't offer to the public.
37:19I mean, if you were a police officer with a search warrant, I could.
37:21But, you know, like the cops, of course, if they'd come in for a search warrant or whatnot.
37:24We're not a cop, honestly.
37:26We don't want to cause you any problems.
37:28Okay.
37:28We just need to see if we recognize them.
37:31Right, okay.
37:32I mean, it may be somebody that, you know, feels that they've got a vendetta against us
37:37or something.
37:37We don't know.
37:40You be doing us a big favor.
37:41Let us look.
37:42We promise we won't cause no trouble.
37:43Well, I guess I'll check the camera.
37:46Oh, thank you.
37:47Let's see.
37:47I'll go in here and look and...
37:50Be good if we find a little something, wouldn't it?
37:53The calls seem to be coming every two or three days apart.
37:57So, you know, she won't have to look through weeks of stored up footage.
38:09Did our search warrant turn up anything?
38:12Yeah, I actually found something Wednesday about 517.
38:15There's a gray pickup truck right here.
38:21Uh-huh.
38:22I like that now.
38:23Lucky on the digger.
38:24Looks familiar.
38:25That truck's the right foot.
38:31Here's another one.
38:32Friday at 545.
38:34Are you pulling in?
38:35Yeah, there he comes.
38:36Look at that.
38:37Oh, yeah.
38:38Son of a bitch.
38:40And then...
38:43Two weeks ago, on a Monday, about 545, he was here.
38:47So...
38:47He's been here multiple times.
38:49He's a creature of habit.
38:51He's staying with his tracks.
38:53He ain't veering off the path.
38:55In two evenings, during that two-week period of time,
38:59there was a gray pickup truck showed up and used that phone.
39:04Can you zoom that in right there?
39:06Any at all, Faith?
39:07Yes, sir.
39:08Okay.
39:08Yeah, let's...
39:09I can't see his face.
39:12Yeah.
39:12There you go.
39:14Oh, there you go.
39:15Oh, yeah, there ain't no doubt that's that flat-billed...
39:19That's that flat-billed bastard.
39:21You know, as soon as we put eyes on the picture of this guy,
39:25we know exactly who it is.
39:27We've dealt with him before.
39:29Y'all know who it is.
39:29Fixing to deal with him again.
39:31Yeah.
39:31It's our damn fake liquor cellar
39:34that Digger and I confronted earlier in the season.
39:37That's cheap grain alcohol.
39:38You're getting that from a legal facility.
39:40Oh, no.
39:41You ain't got no permit.
39:43That's good liquor.
39:44It's stole.
39:44They've been blaming it on us,
39:46and it's over.
39:50It's usually between 5 and 6, correct?
39:52Yes.
39:53That's when he gets off work.
39:55Yeah, there's a whole other...
39:56Yep.
39:57He must let work close.
39:58He's on a schedule,
39:59and he can't be here until after 5 o'clock.
40:02Well, I hope that helped y'all out.
40:03That helped.
40:04It helped us a bunch.
40:05You have no clue.
40:07Mmm.
40:08Well, I'll be watching now.
40:09Maybe we can smoke this little boy out,
40:11and he'll leave us alone.
40:12We'll keep him out of your hire, too.
40:14Okay, good.
40:15Good.
40:16I don't want people like that here.
40:17Well, we appreciate more than you'll ever know, Faith.
40:20No problem.
40:21Y'all have a great day.
40:25We might just be able to camp out on this phone and locate him.
40:29Josh, just so you know, that feller that you saw in that video
40:34was the same guy I warned you about.
40:37Somebody was giving us some blues with cheap imitation homemade liquor.
40:42We thought this problem was solved.
40:44Yeah, matter of fact, he told us it was.
40:47He lied to us.
40:48So what do we do?
40:49The thing about it is, though, we know who he is now.
40:52Yep.
40:53We got the L on the surprise on our side now.
40:57We got to put a stop to this son of a bitch one way or the other.
41:04Apple branded.
41:05There's a huge shortage of American alcohol up in Canada.
41:09I don't know, man.
41:09I think we got a problem right here.
41:11These apples are already starting to ferment on their own.
41:14Being bad for flavor-wise.
41:16Dang.
41:17We're wanted men, son.
41:18You spend all your life making moonshine, you know,
41:21always trying to dodge that bullet.
41:23I'd say 50 pounds is all we need.
41:24Lo and behold, you caught with your breeches down.
41:26What are y'all doing with these pecans again?
41:28Hey, old boy, it's back.
41:30Shoot the head.
41:31Hopefully, we can shut this rat down once and for all.
41:35We got to stop him permanently.
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