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Should the Tigers attempt to sign Kevin McGonigle long term now?
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00:01all right i want to bring up some breaking news but before we do that let's just get some text
00:06communications i i i really lost my patience with rico's caping up for mendoza and cousins
00:12but sorry canny on the text and then i i have a little bit of breaking news and i'm going
00:17to
00:17localize it to your detroit tigers not really caping up but go ahead oh you were defending
00:21your boys because they're they just do the right thing they don't do anything wrong they just are
00:29nice people wow and they give to charity these horrible people rico harsh beard came in on the
00:36that's right respectfully speaking be respectful kale with cousins and mendoza in town coals and
00:42great clips open mega stores in vegas that's from chris and howell does two weird added get added to
00:51mike's can't win with list truth yeah you have to lead an entire 53 man roster and you're ned
00:57flanders it's never gonna work uh guys i think mike is very nice he's buying everyone in detroit lunch
01:06that's not i can't that that's not happening i'm with mike with kurt cousins he's a weirdo thank you
01:14and the and mendoza's right there he went to the kurt cousin school for kids that are weird and want
01:20to
01:20be weirder so i'm telling you weird because it's fake it's over the top fake it's fake no one walks
01:28around that way so that's why they're weird because you feel like it's over the top fake it's very
01:31invasion of the body snatchers stuff rico but what if it's real what if it's just them buddy you're the
01:38same guy who believes in aliens so your perception of real i i did there's nowhere to go here i'm
01:43sorry
01:43so think like mike or you're weird no no like mike or you're weird no definitely not definitely i got
01:49it no you're now you're straw man's don't do that i'm saying you do believe in a career of it
01:55who
01:55wojo oh no he just made a career being lazy and drunk but the point is you can't i don't
02:03believe
02:03you can lead a locker room being that fake no one walks around that way no one i'm with paul
02:08it's body snatcher stuff it's will ferrell and the other guys there's something there
02:14locker room in multiple places did they yeah great they were spender of the year at indiana
02:21what what his cousins won in his life that's right championship yeah lost yeah got sexed up by danny
02:27jones in a home playoff game totally dated a woman named christina's okay oh christina
02:39paul from the clouds tremendous this uh this from an undamed texter with this news uh the raider
02:45fan base is aiming for the bushes okay now listen may i i have breaking news and i want to
02:52are you
02:53proud of yourself i am because that means people are having fun it can't be all sad about the red
03:00mood all right there is breaking news and i'm going to localize it so before you're like
03:05what the hell is guido up to just let me land the play so yesterday colt emerson mariners
03:13prospect signed a 95 million dollar contract all right he's supposed to be a superstar now we've
03:20heard this before there's a risk to this today the number one overall prospect in baseball the pirates
03:26connor griffin it's supposed to just be an intergalactic shortstop prospect all right he's
03:33going he's been called up for the home opener and they're debuting him he also is now 140 million
03:39dollars richer has just signed a nine-year 140 million dollar deal before ever having a major league at
03:45bat i bring this up because you and i had this conversation about mcgonagall and how the service
03:53time doesn't mean anything if the player's good you're going to attempt to sign sign them anyway
03:59so here's my question i know with with the looming lockout and we don't know the financial future of
04:07baseball we can presume there's going to be a a level of cap some form of cap here's my question
04:17you're seeing seattle do it the pirates have done it i know a lot of people will look at that
04:25in
04:25bristle and go that's insane but think about this for a second whatever the salary cap might be let's
04:32say the cap came in at 250 and the floor was a buck and a quarter connor griffin at nine
04:43and 140
04:44we'll do the math on that all right you're paying a guy about 15 million bucks right that's such a
04:51small amount of the total outlet and if connor griffin is at least it sounds worse until you
04:59break it down over the nine years now listen you're betting on what the kid's going to become
05:05now if the kid becomes an all-star you're stealing now but here's the other part
05:10well we have arbitration and we don't owe money for seven years and all this different stuff
05:15i just want to remind you here in detroit what you're dealing with with tarik scoobal
05:22if you lock up mcgonagall you ain't ever got to deal with it you'll sign him for eight or nine
05:29years
05:30and by the time he's 30 you don't care 28 you don't care we might not even be alive in
05:38nine years
05:38so i i wanted to ask the questions like we've seen the hit tool we know he's going to be
05:44long
05:44term probably a second or third baseman i just see i i don't believe he's gonna be short stuff
05:48my point is he's gonna be here so what are you what are you thinking like eight at 150 no
05:55i i don't i
05:56just don't don't see that i'm saying do you make the approach on a contract that's somewhere around
06:02100 million bucks and try to sign him and before you bring up colt keith and it's been up and
06:07down
06:08guys you're not paying him anything colt keith for five million dollars a year that's a rounding
06:14error once again it's when you add the years in then if the contract doesn't look as daunting
06:20so yeah i mean i would because he can hit no no no he can and i i guess if
06:28you're the tigers how do you
06:29look at next year do you want to have him on your books you're not gonna have to pay him
06:35there's a
06:35work stoppage it doesn't matter it's a weasel it's a wazzle it's in the wind doesn't mean anything
06:42i'm making a point the strategy being employed by these teams it's a bit risk it biscuit it is
06:47we saw it years ago with wander franco i know he got in trouble but the deal wasn't crazy and
06:53he was an
06:54excellent player and then he lost his mind the point i'm making is if mcgonagall is that
07:00and you know the hit tool's real and you know all right it's not a player that's reliant on
07:07you know like ellie de la cruz has a wicked strikeout profile but he could steal 70 bags
07:12well here's your problem the strikeouts and if the speed goes what am i left with that's scary
07:16right this is not scary would you would you attempt to get mcgonagall signed i would attempt to do that
07:23but i guess i'm thinking if i'm mcgonagall do you bet on yourself and say nah i'm gonna wait a
07:27little
07:27bit all right but hold on wait a little bit longer you mean 2033 want to be dirt poor
07:35versus i can make a hundred million dollars now and if i'm any good by age 28 when my deal
07:41is up
07:43i sign the bogo deal what do you think what do you think the deal just spitball eight at a
07:47hundred
07:48okay i'm throwing no no no mike i said we're just spitballing right now eight at a hundred guys
07:54talking in a barbershop i i just i wonder if the teams are you're seeing a little more last year
08:00the socks did it and admittedly it didn't work they signed christian campbell who was there probably
08:07their second best prospect to roman anthony and they signed him to a long-term deal so basically
08:1112 and a half million a year you're eight at 100 right i i and again i'm not mad if
08:18they don't
08:19this isn't yelling and i'm asking because even if you have a cap it's 12 and a half million a
08:23year
08:24and you're not even close to midway of the cap and now he's signed i don't have to worry about
08:29arbitration battles i don't have to worry about any of that crap i locked him in he's my guy he's
08:35a face of the franchise player piece he's gonna be here i just wanted to throw it out there and
08:40again look maybe three months from now connor griffin's back in the minors and he bombed
08:45because that does happen guys like it's real and maybe mcgonagall bombs i mean we've seen this we
08:51saw it with jackson holiday we see it with jason dominguez with the yankees we saw it took joe
08:57adele five years to be joe adele and finally have a 37 home run season like i can keep going
09:04i just
09:04it's there's no point belaboring it but the strategy is sound i don't mind it
09:12oh it does i i believe in the hit tool i do no no i i like what i see
09:17it makes sense i'm just
09:18thinking is this something that the tigers would do i can't speak to i know they did it with keith
09:23albeit it was a a micro machines version but i wouldn't mind it okay i mean kenny you're looking
09:31at me like i'm on crack no i don't disagree with you i think the winning ticket texts that are
09:36text communication that just came in was hell we paid alex cobb 15 million to not play oh boy
09:43oh dear oh that guy wins text of the day he does but yeah i just it was it just
09:49broke it's kind of
09:50like that nfl trade you had to start to show off it it you ambushed me with it but it's
09:56a good ambush
09:56it's like wow yeah um but the news just broke with connor griffin while we were at break and it
10:02just
10:02got me thinking i mean i i i think like it's not like a picture rico where you know they're
10:08gonna blow
10:08out i mean scoobles had two catastrophes jackson job's already had one troy melton has already hurt
10:14long term again like when you're a positional player and and it's just the hit tool okay it's
10:23it's not speed it's not hey maybe someday you're like james woods uh wood with uh washington
10:31everybody projected him this guy's got 50 home run power he he's an erin judge type guy one problem
10:38strike one strike two strike three strike four strike five strike six and all of a sudden you're
10:43going uh-oh that's not in mcgonigle's profile if you can hit if you can have a high obp i
10:49can project
10:50enough power that if he never becomes a 25 home run hitter never i can still see the value in
10:57paying
10:57that kid 12 million bucks a year you know what and i would probably say this i would meet you
11:01in
11:01the middle around the all-star break okay you're still doing this not mad you got it i need to
11:07see
11:07you go through lineups a second time around totally fair it was a question not a demand i just think
11:12it's interesting and yeah i mean look for the pirates i mean they got skeins and well listen if they
11:21have skeins and connor griffin if connor griffin is what scouts believe him to be which we just went over
11:25how that can go wrong rico you're talking about the two faces of your franchise you you've got
11:31your two hole hitter and you got your ace i i mean no and it is a low bar but
11:35it's nice to see a team
11:36like the pirates actually trying yeah because that's very anti-pirates and the mariners threw 95 million
11:41at cold emerson so it just last two days two huge deals it got me thinking about mcgonigle a little
11:47bit
11:47wanted to throw it out there all right i'll shut up here's rico to tell you about basements
11:51you
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