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Would it be the smart move for the Detroit Tigers for their long term future?
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00:15all right it's carson anderson it's opening day apologize some technical difficulties i believe
00:19we have the video stream up but i i don't even know i can't get online whatever um well kevin
00:24evan said he went used to just have a big d on his on his screen what d for duck
00:33so that's what the video stream now he's now he's back no just on you know because like there it's
00:37a you've got a big e for for evan oh i see and all he had was the on his
00:42end we were we were streaming
00:43him a big d that's right uh hey you know if you've been in an accident wondering how to call
00:49sam
00:51i know the bird steves personally so if you've been in an accident give them a call
00:55they're the best they demand your respect and they get it and they get they get insurance companies
01:01they respect them too so there you go wondering how to call sam mark and beth and the whole group
01:05yeah there that's it uh all right let's get to your phone calls 248-539-9797 we go to john
01:12in detroit
01:13hi john hi is this mick on my own yes okay i'm not in detroit but that's okay uh so
01:22if the tigers
01:23want to sign him to a long-term deal there's it's simple enough to to pattern it after colt key's
01:30contract where he had six years plus two option years for the tigers and if you started out at
01:37say eight million dollars a year and went up from there you could have it after six years it could
01:42be
01:42eighty million dollars and after uh after the after the after the after two years it could be
01:47100 or 110 and that that allows you to spread out the liability over time if he gets hurt or
01:54something
01:54happens you know or whatever or you could also include buyouts along the way i mean that's just
02:00kind of one way you could look at it so you're you're in favor of doing this oh absolutely yeah
02:07yeah
02:08i mean you you tried it you tried it with colt keith and it seems to have worked out pretty
02:13well so
02:13far and it seems to be looking like it's improving so if you feel that he's that much
02:19better playing than colt keith based on uh how he was ranked well then it certainly would be worth it
02:26you know it it's it's it's a risk if you're making 785 000 a year you're kevin mcgonigal
02:34and the tigers come at you with this escalating contract where you immediately jump up to six
02:40seven eight million whatever whatever the first year is i'm not sure you can say no and it's it's
02:47locking up generational money at the expense of getting to free agency sooner but you want some
02:56guarantees you know so it it would be a an aggressive move it would not be a cheap move
03:03by the tigers it would be saving them money long term it would be putting off free agency as long
03:09as you can and it'd be doing it after six games which on the surface is insane well but they
03:15did
03:15with colt keith before he played a single game i know i don't feel but what was colt keith contract
03:19do you remember i want to say it was like seven to eight million dollars a year it wasn't so
03:24it was
03:24like kind of it doesn't it wasn't something like it was like 15 a year it was yeah it was
03:28very um
03:29modest and if the caller's right if they had extra years on that it uh it team options and it
03:35even
03:36looks better but i thought it was like a six-year 40 million dollar deal something like that 45 million
03:41dollar deal um i don't know my third number 37 might stick out regardless it was a it's a great
03:46deal
03:47uh if he continues to progress the way he's going it's an absolute steal um okay it's a six-year
03:5228.642 million dollar contract even better good guy i mean if if colt keith if this colt keith
03:59that has been playing for the tiger so far this year if this is who he's going to be this
04:04is a
04:04absolute bargain well right and keep in mind what that is okay so that's six years
04:09what's free agency you get you play five years and they get free agency basically yeah so you're
04:14you're getting a you're paying them a little bit now okay so uh no it's fine well and i'm looking
04:19at keith's contract i got in front of me so you're paying them a little bit now uh for for
04:25what you think he's going to be and then by the time that the contract comes up it's basically free
04:29agency anyway so so here's what the tigers got out of the colt keith deal because his his contract
04:35goes up every year that he's in detroit his first year of unrestricted free agency is a club option for
04:4310 million his second one is a club option for 13 million and his third year after he should be
04:48a
04:48free agency as a club option for 15 million so if colt keith is going to hit the way he
04:54is i mean
04:55colt keith might want to renegotiate but whatever they're they've they've done a great that's that
05:00looks like a financially prudent move for the detroit tiger mcgonigle supposed to be better than colt keith
05:04right so you you've you've got this contract that you can put at him and basically it's like okay
05:09what can i get out of it for five years because in five years if i didn't sign a an
05:13extension with
05:13tigers prior to the or a contract with tigers going into this week then he's going to make in
05:20the next five years based on arbitration and all that what by the end of it you might have racked
05:24up
05:2550 million dollars total maybe i doubt even that much but who knows what the ways prices are going
05:30up if you give him this contract if you give him a a deal for seven years or whatever the
05:37contract is
05:37that you'd be looking to give him you're giving him way more money in those five years than he would
05:42have gotten if he's just sitting around waiting now it's about do you bet on yourself or not
05:46right max scherzer bet on himself rather than taking a big contract for the tigers and it paid off for
05:51him colt keith i'm sorry kevin mcgonigle could be down that same road um how much does he want to
05:57bet on himself or does he really like this situation and you can you can negotiate a contract where the
06:03last couple years that are option years you can be friendly with it find find wording in the contract
06:08with incentives that reward you for for being an all-star or whatever scott the kid's never been
06:13in the clubhouse like he's talking about a contract extension and today he's like okay where's my
06:19locker how do i he probably is going to make a wrong turn end up in a back hallway today
06:23because he
06:23doesn't know where he's going but we didn't have this discussion a few years ago that not like we're
06:28doing now uh with when colt keith did it right it was it's the same situation um but we're a
06:35lot
06:35higher on kevin mcgonigle than we were on colt keith it feels like it's it's one of the the
06:42challenging parts of this is it's more money it's a lot it feels like a much bigger financial
06:47commitment than it was for colt keith 248-539-9797 caleb is next here on 97.1 hello caleb
06:56hi how are you guys doing today what's up good good uh i didn't want to switch the topic up
07:01but
07:01i just want to talk about justin verlander you know he got blown up the other day and i was
07:05you
07:05know it was that really a good pickup on the detroit diner were we just using it for entertainment
07:09purposes well are you gonna give up after one start or are you gonna look at the totality of
07:15the next six years old now i mean yeah and older we already got school we got that closer from
07:20the
07:20indians did we really did we really need them so here's what here's what the way i look at it
07:24caleb is jv is is that call went out because reese olson's hurt jackson job's hurt um who else is
07:32there's one more it's hurt uh but who am i blanking on uh troy melton's hurt yeah um and so
07:38so they're
07:39kind of an emergency break glass situation who do who can be the fourth or fifth starter a guy to
07:44you
07:45know and even on a competitive team the fourth or fifth starter might be a guy that just gets you
07:49a chance to win every other outing now last year there was first half uh justin verlander and
07:56second half of the season justin verlander and second half of the season justin verlander was
08:00really really good there is a chance that this won't work in which case they can ask him to move
08:04to the bullpen and call up cater montero or just release him if it doesn't work but it's it's the
08:09kind of thing that's sort of an emergency break glass signing he was available and and given all the
08:14injuries as they stacked up it's a calculated risk that i i'm willing to give it several more
08:20starts but there's a chance this won't work of course yeah i'm just hoping uh he you know first
08:25year back he'll win us a world series just like he did with the astros you know he left the
08:29tigers
08:29and won a world series so i think we'd all we'd all love that that would be an ideal scenario
08:34caleb yes
08:34there's no debate about that we'll take that i would just say you know look last year he did not
08:39start
08:39off great in the month of uh of april um and he came on in the second half of the
08:45season and was
08:46really really good down the stretch that start the other night was a tough watch just from a
08:52sentimental standpoint but let's remember what what he's being asked to do here he's not asked to be
08:59the ace nope or the two nope or the three nope and maybe even the four because quite frankly the
09:05five looked way better casey mys look way better than jb but also the same thing it's one start
09:09it's one start yes i really hope that's casey mys and and and caleb so long way to go before
09:15he's
09:15defined as to what he's going to be this year but um you know we'll see how plays itself out
09:21we got john john or jim my bad sorry jim is next here on 97 one hi jim hey hey
09:27i think we should
09:29lock my conical in yeah i could understand more hesitation if you know he was that great bat
09:35and we said oh we can work on the fielding or vice versa oh you know he's great fielder but
09:40we'll work on his batting he's got it so far yeah so far it's a couple games i said first
09:46game you
09:47know series first game that you know america but the guy looks legit and i think he's going to be
09:53valuable i mean third base we've been looking for a third baseman we got one
09:57the glove part of it is probably the most pleasant surprise of this whole thing
10:02and the plays he made at the hot corner to start was it three double plays the other night in
10:07that
10:07you know look at the plate the team was dreadful the but that one nothing game i came away going
10:13this kid is playing third base like he's been there for a long time and yeah needing a third baseman
10:20it is
10:20i mean in in many ways if you had said pick something pick something that needs to go right
10:27for this team that fills a hole and and and like perfectly it would be mcgonagall hitting the ground
10:34running and and being able to play third base are you kidding me that's like exactly what you'd ask for
10:41yeah third base plays been a surprise out of me surprised me to no end but i mean a couple
10:47singles could have gone right by him but no somehow he gets it he throws it double play what the
10:51heck
10:52it was he was great with the glove great with the glove thank you 248-539-9797
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