Cosa è successo, fra il cielo e il mare di #Ustica, quella notte dell'estate del 1980, quando il #Dc9 scomparve dai radar per entrare in un capitolo della storia dei #misteri d'Italia? A 40 anni dalla #strage di Ustica Franco Di Mare conduce uno #speciale dal Museo per la Memoria di Ustica di Bologna, dove sono conservati i resti del Dc9. Insieme a Daria Bonfietti e a Stefano Filippi, presidente e vicepresidente dell'Associazione dei familiari delle #vittime della strage di Ustica, ripercorriamo le inchieste, i depistaggi e la mobilitazione civile che hanno caratterizzato uno dei grandi misteri d'Italia. Con loro Walter Veltroni, Paolo Mieli e la storica Cora Ranci.
#Crime #TrueCrime #Delitti #Misteri #Documentari #Killer #SerialKiller #ColdCase #Cronaca #CronacaNera #DivinumCrime #Ustica
#Crime #TrueCrime #Delitti #Misteri #Documentari #Killer #SerialKiller #ColdCase #Cronaca #CronacaNera #DivinumCrime #Ustica
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00:02Good evening, ladies and gentlemen, we are beginning boarding for Itavia flight IH870 departing for Palermo.
00:09Please proceed to the boarding gate. We thank you for choosing our services and wish you a pleasant stay.
00:15have a good flight.
00:19Last call for Itavia flight IH870 to Palermo. Immediate boarding.
00:48I'm in a place that gives you the creeps, but it's also the right place to tell you a story
00:54which after 40 years is still scary, because the wreckage of this plane took off from Bologna airport
01:00and never arrived in Palermo they are truly a punch in the stomach.
01:05This is why we chose to come right here, to a museum, the one for the memory of Ustica,
01:11that everyone should see at least once to understand what we're talking about when we talk about the mysteries of Italy.
01:17Because here the mysteries of Italy crush you like the great silhouette of this Dicinove,
01:23crashed on June 27, 1980 off the coast of Ustica and then recovered from the ocean floor.
01:3017 tons and 31 meters long.
01:342,500 pieces of wreckage, large and small, transformed into just as many pieces of a tragic puzzle.
01:42Sheet metal, portholes, seats, wings, tail, two engines.
01:54What is this wreck now, this fragile colossus?
01:59A ghost, part judicial evidence and part monument.
02:04And here sat the 77 passengers, adults, children, even very young ones.
02:12For the most part Sicilians living in northern Italy, who on a Friday at the end of June
02:16they leave for the island, some for the summer holidays when school closes.
02:22We never treated the plane as a piece of iron, but as a piece of history,
02:28said engineer Clara Modesto, commander of the Latina Fire Brigade,
02:32who in 2006 took care of the transfer of the wreck from the hangar of Pratica di Mare,
02:38where he was at the disposal of the judiciary.
02:56Once arrived here in Bologna, thanks to a convoy of special vehicles,
03:00who went up the Autostrada del Sole closed to traffic during the night between 25 and 26 June
03:072006,
03:07Each of the 2,500 pieces was cleaned of seawater and placed in its place.
03:15Why? Why this gigantic effort, first to recover the elite
03:20and then to preserve the memory of a massacre that remains unsolved after 40 years.
03:26Because a civilized country must never give up on the truth, nor on memory.
03:38According to information received a few minutes ago, radio contact has been lost.
03:43with an Itavia 19, flying between Bologna and Palermo.
03:59Collision with a military aircraft or explosion in flight for reasons yet to be determined.
04:03These are the two main questions that are becoming increasingly more substantial.
04:08eight days after the disaster of the 19th.
04:16Good evening, it's been five years now.
04:19The question is: is there a bomb on board or a missile?
04:29There is still a mystery in the Ustica sky disaster.
04:33This evening Tg1 shows an exceptional document.
04:36Images of the plane's wreckage as they appeared to the submarine used for the search.
04:42Only after seven years was the wreck of the 19 recovered.
04:4580% of the plane, including the voice recorder.
04:48The last sound recorded is an exclamation of amazement from the pilot.
04:53Look!
04:54Eight years later, we still don't know exactly why that plane crashed.
05:05Nothing precise is known about the role that the Americans had in that Ustica story
05:10and it is also very uncertain that they had any involvement at all.
05:15In front of the Parliamentary Commission on Massacres, high-ranking officials and secret service men
05:20they often don't remember or contradict each other.
05:23After ten years, in short, there is no trace of truth to deliver, first and foremost to the families of those dead.
05:35Mixer questioned Italians about the Ustica massacre.
05:38Will we get to the truth?
05:40Yes, 15%.
05:41No, 57%.
05:44The data from this survey speaks volumes about the hope that Italians have
05:48to really know how things went in Ustica.
05:54There had already been an expert opinion and this opinion had produced a conclusion.
06:01The 19th had been hit by a missile.
06:07Thirty years have passed since what happened that day in the skies above Ustica.
06:14Someone suddenly remembered something, like the former President of the Republic Francesco Cossiga
06:20who now says he always knew from the secret services that the 19th would be shot down by a French plane
06:26who wanted to intercept a miglide with Colonel Gaddafi on board.
06:3440 years after the massacre that cost the lives of 81 people,
06:37An investigation by Rai News 24 reveals the last words of the co-pilot of the 19 shot down on June 27, 1980.
06:44in the skies of Ustica.
06:55Look what it is is the phrase that can be heard
06:58and then the box stopped recording, probably following the impact with an incoming object.
07:06Think about that syllable, gua, dramatically truncated and its interpretation
07:12fierce legal battles were fought
07:16and now 40 years after those events
07:19shreds of truth still emerge thanks to new technologies
07:23which allowed the audio to be cleaned up and now acquired by the Digos
07:28which gives us the last words of co-pilot Enzo Fontana before the disaster.
07:34What does this strangled voice tell us?
07:36He confirms that in the cockpit they saw something coming
07:40a missile or a warplane
07:42as hypothesized by the investigating judge Rosario Priore
07:45in his 1999 order judgment
07:49at the end of the longest training in history.
07:54Ustica is a long story
07:56think that even just for the use of the term massacre
08:00it took time
08:01For years, public debate has been talking about a disaster and a tragedy.
08:06terms that express fatalism
08:08and evade the issue of responsibility.
08:12If it's not an accident it's a massacre
08:14and since it's not an accident it's a massacre.
08:23If you want to understand what those cursed years were
08:26those years that I personally have no regrets about
08:29you have to pass through Ustica
08:31Ustica is the paradigm of the Italian horrors of those years.
08:36She must communicate to the family
08:37who will find the body of the Honorable Aldo Mauro
08:41in Caltani Street.
08:43Ustica is two years after Moro
08:45Ustica is in the midst of terrorism
08:49Roberto Peci was kidnapped a few days before Ustica.
08:54The Roman column of the Red Brigades
08:55he claimed the damage in the afternoon shortly before 5
08:58with a phone call to the newspaper Il Giorno
09:01the kidnapping of Roberto Peci
09:03brother of the repentant Red Brigades member Patrizio Peci
09:06disappeared yesterday afternoon from San Benedetto del Tronto.
09:09It is the Italy of P2.
09:13There are years when Gladio exists in Italy
09:15in short there are many things that we would have discovered later
09:21That's a sick Italy.
09:32it is an Italy in which the political conditions are also changing
09:36that experience of national solidarity
09:40which neither the Russians nor the Americans liked
09:43it ends, it ends with the kidnapping of Moro
09:45then the five-party coalition was born with all that this would have meant.
09:50We must not forget that 1980 is a very special year
09:55In December 1979, the Soviet Union invaded Afghanistan
10:00and that alone was enough to rekindle the Cold War
10:04then in 1980 Tito died
10:08and Tito's death meant breaking everything into pieces
10:11as what actually happened in what was then Yugoslavia.
10:14plus there was a Polish pope from 78
10:19Charles Poitiers
10:21and perhaps also on the impetus of this Pope John Paul II
10:25solidarity was born, the spark that would lead to '89
10:30at the fall of the Berlin Wall.
10:32It's not just any year, it's a very, very special year.
10:48Ustica are 81 people, 81 families
10:53whose life was cut short without their having any responsibility
11:00from a gigantic international incident
11:04because it is clear that that night in heaven
11:07that plane found itself in the middle of something that had nothing to do with Italy
11:12and which then, like all these major international events, was somehow silenced.
11:24A plane crash, like so many others.
11:27At first this was the official thesis, structural failure, a phrase that has remained in the history of this country.
11:35Then, little by little, it became clear that things weren't like that.
11:41Among the 81 victims of that massacre, as Walter Beltroni recalled,
11:47there was Giacomo Filippi who went to Sicily for work.
11:51Good evening to Stefano Filippi.
11:53Good evening to you.
11:53He is Giacomo's son, he was just 16 years old at the time.
11:58She is a survivor, why?
12:01Yes, I feel like a survivor, because I was supposed to be on that plane.
12:07My father had promised me that I would go with him on this trip for the end of the school year,
12:14because we often spent time together, especially in the summer.
12:20Since we had our own business, we were used to doing something within the company in the summer.
12:26What did his father do?
12:26He had a wholesale warehouse of fresh and frozen meats.
12:31And he went to Palermo for work?
12:32For work, because he had several clients in Sicily, especially in the Palermo area.
12:36Why did she stay at home and not go on this trip beforehand?
12:41There was a problem in the company, a cold storage room that went out of order
12:45and my father said don't stay here, stay here because your brother might need you.
12:50How many times have you thought about that cold storage room that meant the difference between living and dying?
12:57I thought about it afterwards because before, actually, I was very angry that you didn't cheer me up.
13:02I was annoyed because it was a promise he had made to me.
13:06When she found out, she was just 16 years old, but how did she find out?
13:10Who did he hear it from?
13:11So, we hadn't watched television that evening.
13:15The next morning a family friend, a very dear friend, rang the doorbell,
13:20who very delicately asked, Is Giacomo at home? Do I need him?
13:25My mother said, no look he went to Sicily, but come back soon, come back.
13:31He started crying and said, no, look, he's not coming back.
13:36I learned it this way.
13:40Look, your dad's body, Giacomo's body, was never found.
13:46He is one of those who did not return home even in the form of remains.
13:50No, never.
13:52Have you ever been to Palermo again?
13:55Yes, I have been back there several times.
14:00By plane, taking the same route?
14:02Taking that same path.
14:03What did he think when he flew over that spot?
14:06At that moment I choked up a bit, I felt a bit of a no in my throat, that's why...
14:12Look, 40 years have passed, but I believe that the pain never goes away, that it's always the same.
14:20No, the pain doesn't go away.
14:21The pain doesn't go away, especially since it's been 40 years of suffering.
14:2640 years in which we are still waiting to be told what happened.
14:34But we know this, especially who it was.
14:37We are still waiting for what, if we were on the street, we would call a plaque.
14:43A license plate of a motor vehicle and here is a license plate of a foreign country,
14:48who was present that night anyway.
14:51Is there a place where you commemorate your father's memory?
14:57At the time, my grandparents wanted to make a small burial place,
15:00putting up a photograph to remember, say, my father.
15:06Obviously, knowing that he isn't physically there, I have a hard time going to the cemetery, to be honest.
15:12I see my father every day, I hear him every day, but inside my heart, clearly.
15:16Thank you.
15:18Thank you.
15:20And on May 6, 1988, during the television broadcast Telefono Giallo by Corrado Augas,
15:26an anonymous voice who claims to be a former airman serving in Marsala on the night of the disaster,
15:32breaks a silence that has lasted eight years.
15:34Ready?
15:34Yes.
15:35Can you hear me?
15:36I hear it softly, but I hear it.
15:38Excuse me, because to be able to get on the show, I was a piera on duty in Marsala,
15:41the evening of the 19th fall event.
15:44Unfortunately they don't want to put me through to the phone first,
15:47because the elements I communicate are very heavy.
15:51But anyway, we have examined the traces,
15:55the 10 minutes of broadcast you are talking about,
15:58of registration that have not been seen.
16:00That's not true, because we saw them perfectly.
16:03Only the next day, the manager in charge of the service told us
16:07which is basically just minding our own business.
16:10The truth is this.
16:11We were ordered to keep quiet.
16:14And I greet her, and I also greet the Honourable Rodotai,
16:16all those who tried to tell the truth,
16:19because I don't want it and I don't want to do it.
16:21Dear friend, don't hang up the phone.
16:26This is the first time that the official version has been denied,
16:29according to which, that night, no one would have seen anything.
16:32And the Marsala radar couldn't have checked anything,
16:35because he is engaged in a simulated exercise.
16:40We saw them perfectly and were ordered to keep quiet.
16:44This emblematic fragment of the story,
16:47a truth that one absolutely wants to hide,
16:50an elusive and reticent military apparatus,
16:52a journalism that instead strives to find answers.
16:56Along its flight, the Tavia 870,
16:59which left Bologna that evening and was followed by a series of radar centers.
17:04Air defense sites that may have monitored the DC-9's flight,
17:09there are 10 of them.
17:11It is enough to recover the tracks, the radar recordings of that massacre
17:15and we will know everything.
17:17Instead, nothing.
17:18The radars were off,
17:20the tapes are not delivered,
17:22the records have disappeared,
17:25In Marsala, registration votes are found
17:28right in the minutes after the accident.
17:31Look at that.
17:32Poggio Renatico, however, has the register,
17:35but the page for June 27 is missing.
17:38According to Judge Rosario Priore,
17:40it would have been cut with a razor blade even.
17:44However, no one notices anything strange.
17:46According to the Air Force, the DC-9 was alone in the sky.
17:51There were no aircraft of our air force,
17:53nor of the US Sixth Fleet,
17:56nor airborne aircraft.
17:57No aircraft activity within 50 miles
18:00from the point where the DC-9 crashed.
18:03Some facts, however, are now clear.
18:06There was a battle in the skies of Ustica.
18:09A battle during which the DC-9 found itself
18:11in the wrong place, at the wrong time.
18:14According to documents provided by NATO in 1997,
18:18in our airspace,
18:20that night there were 21 military planes in flight,
18:24Americans, British, French, Belgians,
18:27of which 4 are still formally unknown.
18:31And there is a name that in every reconstruction,
18:34in every scenario,
18:35it constantly returns.
18:37That of Muammar Gaddafi.
18:52The Mediterranean in 1980
18:54it was the most at-risk area on Earth,
18:58because it was the seat of a double Cold War.
19:06One, the Cold War which had resumed
19:08between the United States and the Soviet Union.
19:11The West deploys its own Euromissiles,
19:14Pershing and Cruiser,
19:15and lines them up in Comison.
19:17The base is in Sicily.
19:21The second Cold War is the Middle Eastern one.
19:25After the first approaches,
19:28sniffing between Egypt and Israel,
19:31had exasperated the radical Arab world
19:35and Gaddafi stood as the leader
19:38of this radical Arab world.
19:49The miglids passed by us on the Mediterranean
19:52and Gaddafi moved mysteriously
19:55on the Mediterranean
19:56and everyone wanted to know
19:59these movements of his.
20:01On the 19th Italy traveled along the Amber 13,
20:04which was a civil traffic airway
20:06traveled to connect northern and southern Italy
20:09and it was right in one spot
20:11which in military circles was called condor point
20:14because it was a sensitive point
20:17from a strategic and military point of view.
20:19Italy boasted of having warned
20:22Gaddafi several times
20:24of the risks they ran
20:25because Libya is a land of oil
20:28and we have special interests in Libya.
20:43We had to wait until 2000
20:45before the Italian governments
20:49take action
20:50even in the diplomatic field
20:53towards the United States, France and Libya.
20:56But it is also true that in the early years
20:58in a Cold War context
21:00in which Italy was in a position
21:02uncomfortable, caught between loyalty
21:05to the Atlantic Pact of which it is a founding member
21:09and a complex and ambiguous relationship
21:13with Libya
21:14he preferred to skip over a point.
21:26Relations between Italy and Gaddafi
21:30They have always been very complicated relationships.
21:33On one hand Gaddafi was provoking us
21:37because we had been the country of occupation
21:40and on the other side all our rulers
21:43of the 70s, 80s and 90s
21:47they tried to make a policy of friendship
21:51against Gaddafi.
21:53Politics of friendship but Gaddafi
21:56he meant everything his own way
21:57in the sense that friendship meant
21:59turn a blind eye to his support
22:01to the most extreme terrorist groups
22:05of the Palestinian world.
22:14Gaddafi financed all the terrorist groups in the world
22:18and he himself carried out attacks
22:21especially the one for which it is tested
22:24let's say his hand
22:25which is the Lockerbie attack
22:27to take revenge for the bombings suffered by the Americans in Libya.
22:32In short, Gaddafi played a key role in the 1980s
22:35a very important role
22:38on the terrorism scene
22:40Middle Eastern and not just Middle Eastern.
22:43So the hypothesis that it is the French
22:46both the Americans
22:48were behind
22:50that attack
22:52I don't know what to call it
22:53or missile anyway
22:54mandate
22:55on our plane
22:56it's a plausible hypothesis.
23:00In this story
23:01there's also a ghost plane
23:03which follows the DC-9
23:04up close
23:05and secretly.
23:07Near Tuscany
23:08an airplane
23:09unknown
23:10small in size
23:11he would have entered
23:12on the DC-9 route
23:14and he would have started
23:15to fly
23:16hidden
23:17from the much larger mass
23:18of the civil aircraft
23:19to make sure
23:20that the radars
23:21they did not notice its presence.
23:23But a pair of F-104s
23:25of the Italian Air Force
23:27after flying
23:29for a good 14 minutes
23:30a few miles away
23:31to the DC-9
23:32turn towards the military base
23:34from Grosseto
23:35after having transmitted
23:36twice
23:37the general emergency signal.
23:40But why?
23:41What they had seen
23:42the two pilots
23:44Nutarelli and Naldini?
23:46It is not known.
23:46These are the two colonels
23:48that eight years later
23:49they would have lost their lives
23:51colliding in the stamp
23:52during a performance
23:53acrobatics
23:54in the tricolour arrows
23:56to Rammstein
23:57in Germany
23:58an accident
23:59in which he lost his life
24:0067 people.
24:11But there is another incident
24:13and again
24:14we're talking about Libya again.
24:17July 18, 1980
24:19almost a month
24:20after the fall
24:21of the 19th on Ustica
24:22two farmers
24:23of Castel Silano
24:24near Crotone
24:25they hear thunder
24:26and they see smoke
24:27rise in the distance.
24:30They call the agents
24:31of the forestry
24:32that arrive
24:33and they find a man
24:34lying on your face
24:35in a pilot's uniform
24:36and 20 meters further on
24:38the carcass
24:38of a military airplane.
24:40It's a MiG-23
24:41of Libyan nationality.
24:43Where does it come from?
24:44It is not known.
24:46From now on
24:48many suspect
24:49that that plane
24:50it happened
24:51the same evening
24:53of the 19th
24:53and that therefore
24:54be in some way
24:56connected
24:57to the massacre
24:58of Ustica.
24:59because then it turns out
25:00that the two doctors
25:02that they carry out
25:02the autopsy
25:03on the pilot's body
25:05they notice
25:06that this corpse
25:09it's a corpse
25:09in a state of decomposition
25:11advanced
25:12and then
25:12backdate
25:13the pilot's death
25:15about twenty
25:15days before.
25:18What remains
25:19of the Libyan MiG
25:20it is guarded
25:20in the hangar
25:21of Pratica di Mare
25:22near Rome.
25:23In 1980
25:24the station master
25:25of the wake in Rome
25:26it was called
25:27Duan Cleric.
25:27this gentleman
25:29that I interviewed
25:30a couple of times
25:31he supports
25:33in interviews
25:34that I did to him
25:35that his men
25:37they went
25:38to see
25:39the remains
25:39of the Libyan MiG
25:40precipitate
25:41on the Sila
25:41at least 4-5 days
25:44Before
25:44of the date
25:45of the official discovery.
25:46The Air Force
25:47Italian
25:48instead it always has
25:49supported
25:50that Libyan MiG
25:52it crashed
25:53only on July 18th.
25:55But what is he doing there?
25:55a Libyan MiG
25:56on the Sila?
25:58It's a flight
25:59of training
25:59that got lost
26:00due to illness
26:00of the pilot
26:01Libya says
26:02which identifies
26:03the pilot too
26:04Fadal Al Hadim
26:05No
26:05others say
26:06It's a plane
26:07what he was going to do
26:08refueling
26:09and review
26:09in Yugoslavia
26:10and maybe
26:11others still say
26:12with the silent
26:13connivance
26:13of our secret services.
26:18The Ustica massacre
26:20they discover themselves
26:21new truths
26:22Libya too
26:23contributed
26:24to the red herrings
26:25on the massacre
26:25of Ustica
26:26Four officers
26:27of Gaddafi
26:27they received
26:29a communication
26:29judicial
26:30for the lies
26:31signed
26:31Speaking of which
26:32of the MiG aircraft
26:33precipitate
26:34on the Sila
26:34Investigating
26:35for the crime
26:36of false
26:36they are all the officers
26:38who participated
26:39to the commission
26:39Italian-Libyan
26:40constituted
26:41from the two governments
26:42concluding that
26:43it was about
26:43of an airplane
26:44departed from Libya
26:45A pilot
26:46Meaning what
26:46would have tried
26:47the escape
26:48in the West
26:48remaining a victim
26:49of an illness
26:50and therefore
26:50falling
26:51in a ravine
26:52All false
26:53they have established
26:53now the experts
26:54of the prior judge
26:55The MiG
26:56he didn't have
26:56sufficient autonomy
26:57to fly over
26:58the Mediterranean
26:59it would have crashed
27:00at sea
27:00The Libyans
27:01they will have to now
27:02explain
27:02why yes
27:03they lent
27:03to support
27:04the castle
27:04of lies
27:05tied to that MiG
27:07What complicities?
27:08they settled
27:08with the services
27:09Italian secrets
27:10like the military leaders
27:11of countries
27:12officially hostile
27:13they could have
27:14agree
27:14to keep quiet about the truth
27:15on the Uri massacre
27:19Red herrings
27:20opacity
27:21reticence
27:22this is the climate
27:24that the investigators
27:25they find
27:25inside the body
27:27of the Air Force
27:28it's the wall of silence
27:29that he's talking about
27:30the prior judge
27:31a practice
27:32consolidated
27:33over the years
27:33even in spirit
27:34of body
27:35let's say
27:35the recordings
27:37of conversations
27:38telephone
27:38among the different
27:40radar bases
27:41from which it was learned
27:42of the state
27:42alarm
27:43caused
27:43from the presence
27:44in the skies
27:45of Ustica
27:45of military traffic
27:47they are seized
27:48only
27:50in 1990
27:54in Tuscany
27:54there is a radar
27:56the 21st
27:57radar group
27:58which is found
27:59on a hill
27:59at Poggio Ballone
28:00just a few kilometers
28:02north of Grosseto
28:03Poggio Ballone
28:04has the opportunity
28:05to see
28:05an area
28:06of the Tyrrhenian Sea
28:07which arrives approximately
28:08at the height of Naples
28:09let's say
28:11thus covering
28:12together with Marsala
28:12the entire airspace
28:15which is included
28:15between Genoa
28:16and Sicily
28:19the cards
28:20they present
28:21tracks
28:22different
28:23now the cards
28:24of the center
28:24Tuscan
28:25they point out
28:26the existence
28:27of this famous
28:28another plane
28:30at least for now
28:30then we'll see
28:31that the planes
28:31really
28:32there are many more
28:36here they are
28:37from the left
28:38at the top
28:38on the TV screen
28:39they arrive
28:39two tracks
28:40who travel
28:40more or less
28:40parallels
28:41what are they
28:41in your opinion
28:42there are two tracks
28:43that come
28:43from the north
28:44they appear
28:45at 6.47pm
28:46and they go down
28:46at one speed
28:47of about 1100 km
28:48to them
28:49that's what I'm hunting for
28:49then they travel
28:50paired
28:51so it is likely
28:53and they come
28:53from Corsica
28:54they come from the north
28:55probably
28:56from France
28:57so they are French
28:58in your opinion
28:59I'm almost
29:00definitely French
29:01they are four military fighters
29:02two that come from
29:02to the north
29:03two that come from
29:03from the south
29:05that intersect
29:06we don't know
29:07if there were others
29:08so what
29:08are you guessing?
29:09south of Naples
29:10around 19
29:11there was a
29:12there was traffic
29:14airplane
29:14there
29:15probably
29:15what happened
29:16is that someone
29:16had to intercept
29:18an airplane
29:20France Press
29:21Nicosia
29:21October 15, 1989
29:22the news agency
29:24Libyan IANA
29:24he says that the day
29:25of the accident
29:26to 19 Italian
29:27President Gaddafi
29:28it was actually
29:29went to Poland
29:33on a television broadcast
29:35for the first time
29:37are mentioned
29:38the recordings
29:39of the radar site
29:40of Poggio Ballone
29:42of which up to that point
29:43it had never been talked about
29:44the scandal
29:45is represented
29:46from the fact that
29:47despite the judiciary
29:48was in possession
29:50of those tracks
29:51for two years
29:52these were never
29:53states placed
29:54available
29:55of the experts
29:56on one side
29:57effective strategies
29:59of disinformation
30:00on the other
30:01a granite
30:02institutional silence
30:04that's why
30:05several times
30:06the investigation
30:07he risks
30:07the archiving
30:08in the very long
30:10legal matter
30:11that a young woman
30:12scholar
30:13Cora Ranci
30:14he summed up
30:14in his essay
30:15Ustica
30:16a historical reconstruction
30:18judicial truth
30:20which we have available
30:21it is unfortunately
30:22still incomplete
30:23while instead
30:24we have a historical truth
30:25to think about
30:25and interpret
30:33In December 1980
30:36we are six months old
30:37from the facts
30:38the ministerial commission
30:40in charge
30:40to clarify
30:41excludes
30:42the thesis
30:43of the technical failure
30:44and structural failure
30:46it is up to the judiciary
30:48work
30:48nevertheless
30:49from that moment on
30:50the investigation
30:51enters a long
30:52stalemate phase
30:53at this stage
30:54to work
30:55on radar data
30:57the few
30:57that have been available
30:59and on the few
31:00remains of the plane
31:01which have been recovered
31:02at sea
31:03in the immediate future
31:04they are the members
31:06of a commission
31:06of investigation
31:07government-appointed
31:08including also
31:09some members
31:10of the Air Force
31:15the judicial investigation
31:17the judicial investigation
31:17she had entered
31:18in a stalemate phase
31:19that in 1986
31:21was in real danger
31:23to bring
31:23to an archive
31:24of the file
31:25this outcome
31:26is prevented
31:27thanks to an appeal
31:28addressed to the president
31:29of the republic
31:30that at the time
31:31it was Francesco Cossiga
31:32from a new subject
31:34a committee
31:35for the truth
31:36suustica
31:36which is born
31:37on the occasion
31:37of the sixth anniversary
31:39of the massacre
31:39and which is composed
31:42from personality
31:44of the political world
31:45and legal
31:47Cossiga accepts
31:49this appeal
31:51and prompts
31:53the Craxi government
31:54to undertake
31:56of the initiatives
31:56the Craxi government
31:57at that point
31:58unblock the situation
32:00financing
32:01the recovery
32:01of the wreck
32:02of the plane
32:02which is still found
32:03on the ocean floor
32:11in the two years
32:12where I have been
32:12to the government
32:14I asked
32:15to the secretary
32:15general
32:16of NATO
32:16that then
32:17it was guinea pig and solana
32:18I asked him
32:19agree
32:19with the prior judge
32:20to make available
32:22the flight paths
32:23it was a document
32:24very important
32:25for analysis
32:26and NATO
32:26he did it
32:32the long investigations
32:3419 years of investigations
32:35they ended
32:36with a sentence
32:37ordinance
32:38deposited
32:39from the judge
32:40instructor
32:40Rosario Priore
32:41in 1999
32:43that has arrived
32:44with many fixed points
32:46but he had to note
32:47that the authors
32:48of the crime
32:48remain unknown
32:49there is a situation
32:51complex
32:52in the sense
32:53that at that moment
32:54more planes were flying
32:57Rosario Priore
32:58conclude
32:59that the 19th
33:00was involved
33:02in an air offensive
33:04a military operation
33:05of interception
33:06towards
33:08of the aircraft
33:09that was flying
33:10hidden
33:11in the wake
33:12of the 19th
33:12leave it standing
33:14two hypotheses
33:14which in his opinion
33:16they are both
33:16plausible
33:17and sustainable
33:18the first
33:19is that the plane
33:20was shot down
33:21from a missile
33:21which was actually
33:24directed against
33:25the plane
33:25which was located
33:26hidden underneath
33:27her belly
33:28so as not to be seen
33:28from the radar
33:29the second
33:31hypothesis
33:32that the plane
33:33both as exploded
33:36for a near collision
33:37that is, a near collision
33:39had with the plane
33:40aggressor soldier
33:41that flying
33:41high speed
33:42would have created
33:44an effect
33:45similar to that
33:45of an explosion
33:56under the management
33:58of rosary
33:59prior
33:59the investigation
34:00gets results
34:01more concrete
34:02and on the other hand
34:03the numbers
34:04they speak clearly
34:04the investigation
34:06it lasts almost
34:0620 years
34:07but between the first
34:08and the second decade
34:09there are differences
34:10huge
34:11in the first decade
34:13they are heard
34:1348 witnesses
34:15then 350
34:16first 13 appraisals
34:18then 88
34:2059 decrees
34:22of search
34:23against 980
34:25the prosecutors
34:26Michael Coiro
34:26and Giovanni Salvi
34:28they reject
34:30the thesis
34:30of the bomb
34:31because the expertise
34:32which supports
34:33the hypothesis
34:33of the internal explosion
34:35she is affected
34:36from such
34:37and many vices
34:38of a logical nature
34:39from so many contradictions
34:40to be
34:42unusable
34:43the scenario
34:44more convincing
34:45for Rosario Priore
34:46that's it
34:46of a demolition
34:47within
34:48of an operation
34:48military
34:49undeclared
34:58second
35:00several civil judges
35:01who have spoken out
35:02who have condemned
35:03the ministries
35:04to huge compensation
35:06have emerged
35:07different profiles
35:08of responsibility
35:09of the ministries
35:10of the defense
35:11and transport
35:12that in 1980
35:14they didn't know
35:15guarantee
35:16safety
35:17of an airplane
35:17Italian civilian
35:18that was going through
35:19a route
35:20that had been given to her
35:20assigned
35:21from the ministry
35:22within
35:24of the airspace
35:25national
35:33the ministries
35:35they are responsible
35:37for omission
35:37control activities
35:38and prevention
35:39that is, they should have
35:40or intercept
35:42the attacking planes
35:43or at least
35:45communicate to the civil flight
35:47to set out on a different course
35:50why that route
35:50it was dangerous
35:51August 31, 1999
35:53the examining magistrate
35:55Rosario Priore
35:57he sent for trial
35:58almost 70
35:59between general officer
36:00of the Air Force
36:02guilty
36:03this is the accusation
36:04of a systematic
36:06destruction of evidence
36:07in progress
36:08of a specific project
36:10which was supposed to prevent
36:12every reconstruction
36:13of the facts
36:13but on December 15th
36:15of 2005
36:16the latest defendants
36:18remained
36:19they were acquitted
36:20on appeal
36:22the purpose of this process
36:23it has never been
36:24establish what happened
36:26really
36:26in the skies of the earth
36:27the judiciary
36:29he couldn't do anything
36:31had to archive
36:32the procedure
36:33of massacre
36:34why I quote verbatim
36:35unknown
36:36the authors
36:37of the crime
36:38the judges
36:39of the assize court
36:40of Appeal of Rome
36:41they spoke
36:43of failure
36:44of science
36:45the investigations
36:46they failed
36:47in delivering
36:48at the court
36:49a reconstruction
36:52certain
36:53and incontrovertible
36:55how much
36:56happened
36:56in the skies of Ustica
36:57and they are the same
36:58the judges to say
36:59they will be the historians
37:00if they have the chance
37:01to write
37:02this piece of history
37:10today a historian
37:12can't say
37:12with certainty
37:13that Italy
37:14had this role
37:15of gendarme
37:16of Gaddafi
37:17but we know
37:18that he was looking for
37:19of the titles
37:20of merits
37:21to find
37:22a role of his
37:22in the crisis
37:23Middle Eastern
37:24some men
37:25Italian politicians
37:26they had
37:28greater awareness
37:30whose it was
37:31what he did
37:32Gaddafi
37:32Surely
37:33he had it
37:34Francis
37:35Cossiga
37:35which was
37:36president
37:37of the council
37:38at the moment
37:39of Ustica
37:41and then
37:42would have become
37:43president
37:44of the Republic
37:45Cossiga
37:46he's a character
37:46key
37:47of the story
37:47of Ustica
37:48has always had
37:49a behavior
37:50quite particular
37:52to know everything
37:53they are always the dead
37:54which is unlikely
37:55they speak
37:56I believe
37:56That
37:58the only mystery
37:59be that one
38:00of Ustica
38:01for many years
38:02he declared
38:03of not knowing
38:05the truth
38:06On the contrary
38:07he placed himself
38:08as an interpreter
38:09of the question
38:10for the truth
38:11when it was
38:12at the Quirinal
38:13on the occasion
38:14of anniversaries
38:15of the massacre
38:16really there
38:17what it is
38:18success
38:19it is not understood
38:20him at the time
38:21he was president
38:22of the council
38:23but he knows nothing
38:24as the responsibility
38:25it wasn't just Italian
38:27you can download
38:28plot twist
38:29with the closure
38:30of the criminal process
38:31and the solution
38:32of the generals
38:33release
38:34this sensational one
38:35interview
38:36I'm convinced
38:37that the plane
38:38it was shot down
38:39from an airplane
38:41of a country born
38:42that does not name
38:43and that he aimed badly
38:44the missile
38:45someone
38:45he remembered
38:46suddenly
38:47of something
38:47I believe
38:48that it was
38:50an attack
38:51failed
38:52by
38:52of an airplane
38:54of the powers
38:55born
38:55nor Italian
38:56nor American
38:57to an airplane
38:59which was believed
39:00to carry
39:00the colonel
39:01Gaddafi
39:02our
39:02service
39:03secret
39:04military
39:05the earthquake
39:05driven
39:07from the general
39:07Saint Uvitus
39:08he warned him
39:09which could have been
39:10object
39:10of an attack
39:13the story
39:15diustics
39:16for 40 years
39:17bounces
39:17from the first
39:18pages
39:18of the newspapers
39:19to the classrooms
39:20of the courts
39:21and it's not over yet
39:22in the wake
39:23of the statements
39:24by Cossiga
39:25they are still in progress
39:26the investigations
39:27for massacre
39:28entrusted
39:28to the public prosecutors
39:30Amelio
39:31and Monteleone
39:32in April
39:33Instead
39:33the Court of Appeal
39:34of Rome
39:34he liquidated
39:35to the heirs
39:36of the family
39:36owner
39:37of the company
39:38Itavia
39:38330 million
39:40of euros
39:41that will be paid
39:42from the ministries
39:43of the defense
39:44and transport
39:45responsible
39:46of not having guaranteed
39:47that night
39:48safety
39:49of the heavens
39:49of our country
39:53The truth about Ustica
39:55very quietly
39:56it came to light
39:57thanks to a job
39:59that has been done
40:00not from the institutions
40:01but it was done
40:02from the company
40:03and it was done
40:04Together
40:05from journalists
40:06from a certain
40:08civil journalism
40:09that is not
40:09stopped
40:10and who was not afraid
40:11why we remember
40:13even that
40:14Ustica
40:15has an appendix
40:16how many are there
40:17the people
40:19involved
40:19that evening
40:20who are dead
40:21under strange circumstances
40:22There are
40:23it seems to me
40:24approximately
40:24about fifteen
40:25of suspicious deaths
40:26that have to do with
40:28with the massacre
40:29of Ustica
40:29There are several suicides
40:31a couple
40:32if not three
40:33quite singular
40:34Mario Alberto Dettori
40:36is found
40:37hanged
40:38to a tree
40:38March 31, 1987
40:40on the riverbed
40:41of the Ombrone river
40:42near Grosseto
40:43He was on duty
40:44at the radar center
40:45of Poggio Ballone
40:46the evening of the disaster
40:48the wife says
40:48that when she came home
40:50he will be very shocked
40:50and who told her
40:51something bad happened
40:52here everyone goes to jail
40:54and there are
40:54as the judge says
40:55instructor
40:56several suicides
40:57on your knees
40:58to say that
40:59In short
41:00if someone
41:00he wants to hang himself
41:02generally
41:03he doesn't do it
41:03touching with your feet
41:04on the ground
41:05and also
41:06that the marshal
41:07Franco Parisi
41:07be found
41:08hanged from a tree
41:09December 21st
41:10of 95
41:10it's suspicious
41:12why exactly
41:13a few days later
41:14should have
41:15to appear before
41:16to the prior judge
41:17to be questioned
41:21he was serving
41:22at the radar
41:23of Otranto
41:23but he wasn't on duty
41:25the night he fell
41:25the 19th
41:29he was on duty
41:30July 18th
41:311980
41:32when it would fall
41:33the Libyan MiG
41:34on the Sila
41:36in this case too
41:37it was supported
41:39that it could be
41:40something instead
41:40of accomplished
41:42from others
41:43Why
41:44Why
41:44the height
41:46of the branch
41:46era
41:47it was rather
41:48low
41:48the stool
41:49it was not understood
41:51as if it had been
41:52kicked by him
41:53or less
41:53but
41:53they are all
41:54circumstances
41:55they are all
41:56facts
41:57of which we
41:58we don't have
41:59a certain proof
42:00and then
42:02there have been
42:02journalists
42:03brave
42:03who worked
42:04they sought the truth
42:05and then there were
42:06the families
42:11what does it mean
42:12a missing plane
42:14I was asking
42:14what had happened
42:15if it had been hijacked
42:17if he had fallen
42:19they were saying
42:19era
42:21missing
42:21I never thought
42:22that it was an accident
42:23I understood
42:24I felt
42:24that this lack
42:26of news
42:28this lack
42:29of information
42:30this lack
42:30of truth
42:33he couldn't
42:34what to be
42:35symptom
42:36of a truth
42:37unspeakable
42:41and then
42:42let's start to understand
42:44I started to want
42:46claim
42:48from the institutions
42:48from the judiciary
42:49meanwhile
42:50that something was done
42:52that they told us something
42:53that they told us
42:54what were they doing
42:55and then I
42:56I wrote to my relatives
42:57to this letter
42:58they answered immediately
43:00in many
43:01it seemed
43:01that everyone was there
43:03to wait
43:04that someone
43:05he moved
43:06the association
43:07it was formed
43:09in Bologna
43:10Between
43:10the relatives
43:12precisely
43:13of the victims
43:14of the massacre
43:14of Ustica
43:16at a good eight years old
43:17away
43:23the past
43:24it's passed
43:26we have
43:26stopped crying
43:27we have decided
43:28that around this story
43:30the truth
43:30it is possible
43:32the truth is there
43:33and so it is possible
43:34we are here
43:35and we continue
43:36to be here
43:36indignant
43:38incredulous
43:38and we want that
43:39all citizens
43:41civil society
43:42realize
43:43which is a truth
43:43that the Italians
43:45everyone must demand
43:46if I'm not nostalgic
43:48for those years
43:48I'm nostalgic
43:49instead for that television
43:51I'm nostalgic
43:52for a television
43:55who was in charge
43:56of life
43:57of this country
43:57that was digging
43:59where it was necessary to dig
44:01that he was telling
44:02without looking
44:03in the face
44:03of no one
44:04things
44:04it's clear
44:05that time
44:06can consume
44:07but
44:10if you have conscience
44:12that memory
44:12It is the main antidote
44:14that we can have
44:15so that it can happen
44:16to get back on a plane
44:18and let it happen again
44:18what happened
44:20we have to keep it alive
44:22the memory
44:22June 1980
44:23could have happened
44:24a dogfight
44:25the hypothesis
44:25of a missile
44:26which follows the 19th
44:30up close
44:31and by sight
44:31this evening
44:32behind the wheel
44:37Mrs. Bonfietti
44:38I'm 32 years old
44:40that she fights
44:41to tear
44:42the truth of lies
44:43of omissions
44:44of red herrings
44:45that still
44:47surround
44:47this story
44:48terrible
44:49how did he get it?
44:50the decision
44:51to dedicate
44:52all his life
44:53to this
44:54No
44:54there are moments
44:55in life
44:56in which
44:56they can't be done
44:57to do things
44:58and then
44:59they happen
45:00other
45:01that induce you
45:02to
45:04how to say
45:05to understand
45:07That
45:07more than pain
45:08in that case
45:11can
45:12or could have
45:13the need
45:14of truth
45:14and then
45:15I succeeded
45:16to
45:17how to say
45:18comprehend
45:19That
45:19I knew little
45:20I knew nothing
45:22of this story
45:23it was said
45:24in the first moments
45:25as you all know
45:26structural failure
45:27and that was it
45:28the reason
45:28for which
45:29shortly after
45:30a few months later
45:32we weren't even talking about it yet
45:33more
45:33of the story
45:34of Ustica
45:35In short
45:36it's very clear
45:37today in front
45:38to this wreck
45:39That
45:40the 19th
45:41as you know
45:42it was shot down
45:44that there was war
45:45that night
45:46in our skies
45:47there were 69 adults
45:50and 12 children
45:51and someone
45:52right away
45:53he decided
45:55That
45:55us
45:56but I say
45:56the Italians
45:57the Italians
45:58they weren't supposed to know
45:59it was unspeakable
46:01that
46:02which had to
46:02happen
46:03that night
46:04because of this
46:05they have
46:06men
46:07of the institutions
46:08of my country
46:09started
46:10to tell
46:11lies
46:12when I am
46:13surrender
46:14of this thing
46:14I couldn't do it anymore
46:15bear it
46:16this is the thing
46:17I believe
46:18unbearable
46:19shameful
46:20and so we have
46:21tried
46:22to fight
46:23so in those six years
46:24she waited
46:24he had confidence
46:25in a reply
46:26of the State
46:27that didn't arrive
46:28Absolutely not
46:28ninth
46:28Absolutely not
46:29I had only removed
46:30I was just incapable
46:31to think
46:32at that event
46:33when I managed
46:34to realize
46:36left alone
46:37that I had to
46:38instead absolutely
46:39absolutely
46:40claim
46:41from the institutions
46:42a truth
46:43a moment
46:44more plausible
46:45I started
46:46to ask for an account
46:48and as you know
46:48asking for an account
46:50he brought
46:50to recovery
46:51of the wreck
46:52and there
46:53from there
46:53it came out
46:54the possibility
46:55to find her
46:56the truth
46:57this wreck
46:58he spoke
46:58how do you say
46:59as you know
47:00he spoke
47:00even in the last few days
47:01think
47:02but this wreck
47:03he succeeded
47:04restoring the audio tracks
47:05of the cockpit
47:06to the prior judge
47:07he succeeded
47:08to his experts
47:09to demonstrate
47:10with all the expertise
47:11fractographic
47:12explosive chemistry
47:13etc. etc.
47:14to demonstrate
47:15that this plane
47:15he had fallen
47:17because it had been
47:18hit
47:19outside
47:20from something
47:21that at that moment
47:22in a war scenario
47:23as the prior judge says
47:25that at that moment
47:26there was
47:27in our skies
47:2840 years later
47:29what is the piece
47:31which is still missing
47:32to rebuild everything
47:34eh this is missing
47:35the name is missing
47:36of the person in charge
47:37and it's missing
47:37the political will
47:39to ask
47:40and political will
47:41to discover
47:43what it was supposed to be
47:44happen that night
47:45Francesco Cossiga
47:46in 2008
47:47he started
47:48to tell
47:48his truth
47:49only in 2008
47:51after having
47:51Instead
47:52maintained
47:53there
47:54how to say
47:54the position
47:55of structural failure
47:57for all those years
47:58and instead
47:59he started to say
48:00which were probably
48:02French states
48:03but President Cossiga
48:04he also told
48:05of a mysterious suicide
48:07happened on board
48:08of the French aircraft carrier
48:10his story
48:10it's very clear
48:11I think that
48:11the magistrates
48:13as you know
48:14they wanted
48:16take
48:17these statements
48:18what he was doing
48:19on the radio
48:19various televisions
48:20even under oath
48:22and this he did
48:23and in his story
48:25there is a clarity
48:26which is really
48:28shocking
48:29because he says
48:30Saint Vitus
48:32general
48:32Saint Vitus
48:331980
48:34head of SISBI
48:36he called
48:38to Gaddafi
48:39and told him
48:40not to pass through
48:42on our sky
48:43at that moment
48:44Why
48:44precisely
48:45it wasn't
48:46air
48:47and it goes on
48:48the president
48:48Cossiga
48:49President Cossiga
48:50he says
48:50and the pilot
48:52of the plane
48:53French
48:54when he comes back
48:55on the aircraft carrier
48:56realized
48:58of the drama
48:59which caused
49:00of the fall
49:00of a civilian aircraft
49:01he will commit suicide
49:03you understand
49:04that this has allowed
49:05he imposed
49:07how to say
49:08to the judges
49:08to the Roman PMs
49:10to reopen
49:11the investigations
49:11and they are still there
49:13open
49:14and they are still there
49:15I wanted to say
49:15making rogatory letters
49:17towards
49:18of the countries
49:18allies
49:19but I believe
49:21to be able to say
49:21that the judiciary
49:23it is necessary
49:24but sometimes
49:25it's not enough
49:26I think it takes
49:27diplomacy
49:28I think it takes
49:29politics
49:29I think it takes
49:30the desire
49:32to get an answer
49:33from the countries
49:35interested parties
49:35they are ours
49:36allies
49:37we can't
49:39I believe
49:40Always
49:40for dignity
49:42of our country
49:43leave us
49:46to disturb
49:47our borders
49:48make sure
49:49that these
49:50they went
49:51Really
49:52in addition to any
49:53possible
49:54expectation
49:54Thank you
49:55thanks to you
50:09sometimes
50:10not even
50:11the images
50:12they are enough
50:13sometimes
50:14not even
50:14the power
50:14narrative
50:15of a photo
50:16or a video
50:17manages to cover
50:18the distance
50:19that passes
50:19between an event
50:21and the emotions
50:22that this succeeds
50:23to evoke
50:23in each of us
50:24if I could
50:26I would bring you all here
50:27all of you
50:28that you followed
50:29from home
50:30this reenactment
50:31of a massacre
50:32without culprits
50:33make sure
50:34why only here
50:35in front of this
50:37gigantic tomb
50:38made of pieces
50:39of sheet metal
50:40of doors
50:41of veils
50:41of slashed tires
50:43which is understood
50:44the pain
50:44and the thirst for justice
50:46that animate
50:47all of those
50:48who still ask
50:49let there be light
50:50finally
50:50and walking
50:52among the remains
50:52of this plane
50:53became his
50:54despite
50:54a monument
50:55funeral
50:56a pantheon
50:56that is captured
50:57the horror
50:58of an unpunished massacre
51:00it's here
51:00which is understood
51:02the pain
51:03which still lives
51:04the demand for justice
51:05of relatives
51:06of the victims
51:06this museum
51:07he's alive
51:08because also
51:09when it's closed
51:10it is populated
51:11from the souls
51:12of 81 people
51:13that I'm here
51:14even at this moment
51:15and they wait
51:16justice
51:17to find
51:18finally peace
51:19at 40 years old
51:20away
51:21since that day
51:21has perhaps arrived
51:22finally
51:23the moment
51:24why it falls
51:25even the last veil
51:26goodnight everyone
51:29Grandma's cakes
51:31they are very good
51:31I need to take care of myself
51:33of the mother
51:33I would like to know
51:34how does it end?
51:35the book
51:35Tomorrow
51:36another day
51:37start retirement
51:40I have to get used to it
51:41to stay at home
51:42the grandmother
51:43will say again
51:43that I grew up
51:45the sea is like this
51:46I will have to close it well
51:47the front door
51:48I like it a lot
51:49Sicily
51:49what a beautiful day
51:50I am happy
51:52all the bullshit
51:53I'll leave them in Bologna
51:54as soon as I arrive
51:56I dive into the sea
51:57I'm already 40 years old
52:00and life
52:00too much time passes
52:02to his
52:02I lost the city
52:04I lost the city
52:05I lost for 8 days
52:07how sad
52:08Today
52:09let's hope that tomorrow
52:10it's better
52:11I don't have to cry
52:12I will be pregnant
52:13with flight delay
52:15I feel safe
52:17when mom
52:18he holds my hand
52:22to
52:23vzeitata
52:251
52:272
52:292
52:422
52:431
52:431
52:444
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