00:00An important hearing in Rome that somehow concerns Chiara Poggi and her murder.
00:06In fact, crime calls for crime or rather a crime can lead to the discovery of another, a crime from which one goes on to
00:14finish another crime.
00:15The other week we talked to you about Parolisi, about what Melania Re's death brought to light in this
00:22barracks
00:22where a light blow was shamefully used.
00:26Well, tomorrow at the Supreme Court there is a hearing for Chiara Poggi's boyfriend.
00:31While investigating him for Chiara's murder, investigators discovered child pornography images on his computer.
00:38It is a crime, certainly less serious than murder.
00:42But it paints a picture of a young man who was in his girlfriend's house the evening she
00:49she was still alive.
00:50And she was there in the morning when she was discovered, dead, found on the ground.
00:55Correspondent Claudio Aldi with Francesco Paolo del Re.
01:05Alberto Stasi, Chiara Poggi's boyfriend, the only person believed to be her murderer, was acquitted in the first and second degree trials.
01:12In a few months he will be tried again on appeal in Milan and is once again at risk of life imprisonment.
01:18But Alberto, already tomorrow, will have to appear before other judges, those of the Court of Cassation, in Rome.
01:28It is to them that he and his lawyers have appealed against the confirmation of the sentence,
01:34imposed on him for the charge of possession of child pornography material.
01:3730 days of imprisonment converted into a fine of 2,540 euros.
01:44Nothing compared to the other spectre, that of years and years to spend behind bars.
01:49But the game in the courtroom, which will be played tomorrow, is actually much more important than it might seem.
01:58Why those 17 fragments of child pornography videos got him in trouble
02:02were recovered on his laptop during the investigation into Chiara's murder.
02:09And even though the two legal proceedings were separated,
02:13their destinies may not continue to run parallel, but may become intertwined again.
02:18Why?
02:22The prosecution has always hypothesized that precisely in those images, in those videos,
02:27the motive for the crime had to be sought.
02:29And Chiara's mother also always thought that if she had found out,
02:33the daughter would not have forgiven Alberto for something like that.
02:37Listen to what he told us.
02:39If his daughter had discovered that Alberto had child pornography on his computer...
02:46She would have gotten angry.
02:47She would have gotten angry.
02:48What would have happened?
02:51I don't know what would have happened, but she would have been angry.
02:55And so much.
02:57So, if on the one hand Alberto Stasi is awaiting the third degree of judgment,
03:01to find out whether his conviction for possession of child pornography material will be confirmed or not,
03:06others are waiting for a much more important trial,
03:09the one that will give a face and a name to Chiara's killer.
03:15The Court of Cassation, to which the prosecution and the Poggi family appealed in this case,
03:20On April 18th he asked for new and more precise investigations
03:24before finally removing Alberto from the scene of Chiara's crime.
03:31According to the judges of Piazza Cavour, the sentences taken in the two previous trials
03:35they would be based on some investigations that need to be redone
03:38either because they were not performed at all or because they were not performed precisely.
03:43And for this reason the judges have ordered others to be able to shed light on the crime.
03:56According to the Court of Cassation, the reconstruction of the crime scene
04:00in which Alberto Stasi would have moved when he says he discovered Chiara's body
04:04it would not have been done taking into account some fundamental elements for the search for truth.
04:10The door that divides the living room of the villa from the other rooms on the ground floor
04:14and which has opened, is located in front of the entrance to the cellar stairs
04:18where Chiara's body was found
04:20it was not present in the reconstruction because it was only represented by a photo.
04:27While the defendant's walk was simulated without taking into account
04:32that the young man had told the police that he had also gone down some steps of the stairs
04:36which led to the cellar.
04:39In short, the expert opinion would have thus left a wider margin of possibility for Stasi
04:44to avoid getting the nuns dirty with those shoes
04:47which the young man always claimed to have been wearing at the time of the discovery of the crime
04:51and on which there were no traces of blood.
05:03In Chiara's left hand the Carabinieri of the RIS
05:06they found a brown hair
05:08of which it was not possible to extract the DNA as the bulb was missing.
05:12According to the prosecution, that hair could belong to the murderer.
05:15The Stasi defense has always maintained
05:17that it could instead be the hair of one of the Poggi household cats
05:21so loved by Chiara.
05:24Now that hair will be subjected to a specific examination again
05:28that of mitochondrial DNA.
05:38A further investigation was also ordered
05:41on the black women's bicycle owned by the Stasi family
05:44which was never seized
05:46because it is considered not identical to the one that the witness Franca Vermani
05:50he said he saw in front of Poggi's house
05:52the morning of the crime.
05:55However, let us remember that the Carabinieri seized Stasi
05:58two more bikes. Neither was black.
06:06According to the Court of Cassation then
06:08checks must also be made
06:10on Alberto Stasi's lack of alibi
06:12during the 23 minutes included
06:14between 9.12 and 9.35 that morning.
06:18The acquittal, write the judges of Piazza Cavour
06:21left unanswered
06:23all the objections raised by the prosecution
06:25relating to the brutality of the crime
06:27to the murderer's exasperated emotionality
06:29to the critical issues of the sexual relationship between Alberto and Chiara
06:32and to the confirmations of these critical issues
06:34as derived from pornographic deviations
06:37and child pornography of the accused.
06:42My daughter would never have opened the door to a stranger
06:46he repeats it, he repeats it
06:47Mrs. Chiara, the mother
06:49Mrs. Rita, the mother
06:50he declares and then adds
06:51that day he was in his pajamas
06:54and he still tells us
06:55I am a mother
06:56and I will never stop fighting
06:58to have justice and truth
07:00the correspondent Claudia Aldi met her
07:09in the endless debate
07:10inside and outside the courtrooms
07:12for the death of Chiara Poggi
07:13we learned to know the faces
07:15of the protagonists of this dramatic story
07:17and the light that from time to time
07:19he enlightened them
07:20now in favor
07:21now in reverse
07:26here he is Alberto Stasi
07:27Chiara's boyfriend
07:28while on December 6, 2011
07:30leaves the courtroom satisfied
07:32after the second acquittal
07:34the one on appeal
07:37and here they are
07:38almost two years later
07:39Chiara's parents
07:40they come out of the gate of the house
07:42to meet journalists
07:44after the Supreme Court
07:45he has just decided instead
07:47to send him back to trial again
07:48Alberto Stasi
07:49how was this night?
07:53and well anyway
07:53a little sleepless
07:54shake a little
07:55we don't want to say things
07:57that not
07:57Not
07:58a little confused
08:00I try to hold back
08:02but I can't do it
08:03thanks to all of you
08:05Thank you
08:06Thank you
08:10Thank you
08:11that day
08:11the avia
08:11I started
08:12to smile
08:14I found the strength
08:15to smile
08:17then it's logical
08:19frankly
08:22having to overturn
08:24two sentences
08:26In short
08:27the reasons
08:28they had to be strong
08:30and they have been
08:31he remembers
08:33what had been
08:33one of the last time
08:35in which he had smiled?
08:40maybe when
08:41they gave us back
08:42the house
08:44we were
08:45out of this house
08:47for eight months
08:48because it was under seizure
08:51and that day there
08:54yes it had been
08:55we wanted it
08:57so much
08:57return
08:58Why
08:58we had to
09:00start again
09:02to live
09:02and we couldn't
09:03start again
09:04somewhere else
09:06our home
09:07it was this
09:08and finally
09:09one afternoon
09:11it has arrived
09:12the phone call
09:13that there
09:14that they had for us
09:15of seized
09:16the house
09:17instead he remembers it
09:19the last one
09:19the last smile
09:21what he did
09:21together with his daughter
09:22what was it?
09:24I remember
09:25when I left her
09:26in the morning
09:27here
09:27we were here
09:28that I told her
09:30listen to me
09:32Clear
09:32and she told me
09:33calm down mommy
09:34Enough
09:36and he smiled
09:37Yes
09:38it was 6 in the morning
09:40then we left
09:41we shot
09:42there
09:43And
09:43with the hand
09:45I greeted her
09:45and that's it
09:46it is possible
09:47that that morning
09:48Clear
09:48opened
09:48in pajamas
09:49a stranger?
09:50No
09:50absolutely
09:51Chiara can't
09:53to have opened
09:53a stranger
09:54he didn't open
09:55a stranger
09:56it wasn't
09:57also because then
09:58she was a girl
09:59shy
10:00that is, shy
10:02and reserved
10:04No
10:04he would never have done it
10:05Done
10:05absolutely
10:06so she
10:07firmly
10:08he says that
10:09who entered
10:09that morning
10:10in here
10:10Chiara knew her
10:11also good
10:12Well yes
10:15Yes
10:17can't
10:18to have opened
10:18a stranger
10:19he wouldn't have
10:21open
10:21in pajamas
10:22in a few months
10:23will begin
10:24the new trial
10:25at your expense
10:25by Alberto Stasi
10:26what are they
10:28things
10:28what is expected
10:29and what
10:29what are you most afraid of?
10:31I expect
10:31only the truth
10:32on death
10:33of my daughter
10:34this is what I expect
10:36this is that
10:37that I want
10:39what I fear
10:41is that
10:44that the truth
10:45you don't arrive
10:47This
10:49We hope
10:50let's hope it arrives
10:51of course I do
10:52Not
10:53I will never stop
10:55until
10:56I won't have found it
10:57this truth
10:58I will never stop
11:00I can't stop
11:01I am the mother
11:03and the mothers
11:04Not
11:06they don't have to
11:07they can't
11:07don't stop
11:08if she had the chance
11:10at this moment
11:10to speak
11:11with the killer
11:11of his daughter
11:12what would you tell him?
11:13sometimes I wonder
11:15but is it possible?
11:16and when he goes around
11:18never meets
11:20someone
11:21that reminds him
11:22Clear
11:22And
11:24which makes him say
11:26oh God
11:27but look
11:28what did I do
11:29Look
11:30she lives
11:31I
11:32I took it off
11:34life
11:35to a person
11:36Like this
11:36No?
11:39it's really strong
11:41Mrs. Rita
11:41the murdered daughter
11:42the house under seizure
11:44and the research
11:45of the truth
11:46and we will stay
11:47always close by
11:48and we will stay
11:48Thank you all.
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