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00:00I do want your transparency.
00:03I want your true self.
00:05I don't care.
00:06Are you absolutely 100% positive that someone
00:10took your two babies from the house?
00:13Yes, I am.
00:15Are you thinking that this could have been a stranger,
00:20or this could have been someone that she was familiar with?
00:23Someone she was familiar with.
00:25Do you have any specific person in mind?
00:32I was born in Chicago.
00:34I grew up in Chicago.
00:36This is my city.
00:39I spent 20 years as a Chicago PD missing persons detective.
00:45But when I retired, the work never stopped.
00:49This job never leaves you.
00:53And my mission now is to return to the cases
00:56that others left behind.
01:00And find that one clue that can finally break the case.
01:14When a child goes missing, time freezes, and fear takes hold.
01:22For most parents, the ordeal is short-lived.
01:27For others, the nightmare never ends.
01:34On July 25, 2015, two of the most vulnerable people you could ever imagine, a 21-year-old
01:43woman with special needs, and her two-year-old nephew,
01:50You're OK.
01:54Vanished from a home in Gary, Indiana.
01:57Diamond Bynum and her two-year-old nephew, King Walker, have been missing for days now.
02:02There were no signs of struggle and no clues.
02:06I just hit the door, ran down the porch, and they were gone.
02:12We just want our children back safe.
02:14If you have them, just please just let them go.
02:16We need justice for our loved ones.
02:19You don't know how it feels until you walk in these shoes.
02:22Since their disappearance in 2015, the investigation has gone quiet.
02:30Rumors about the family fill the void, and suspicions run deep.
02:36Something's going on there.
02:37They're afraid of something.
02:40Did Diamond and King leave the house on their own?
02:43Or were they taken?
02:45But the biggest question for me, does someone in the family know the truth?
03:01I met Diamond's mom, LaShawn Walker, two and a half years ago.
03:07She's been searching relentlessly for her babies.
03:14We have few details from the original investigation.
03:18Diamond lived with her father, Eugene, and her stepmother, Michelle,
03:23at the time of the disappearance.
03:25Her nephew, King, was visiting the weekend they vanished.
03:33Today, I'm going to meet with LaShawn, with my partner, Foster.
03:37We're going to interview her and hopefully get this family some answers
03:42as to what happened to Diamond and King.
03:49We've talked before.
03:52I want to go into some details about what you can remember
03:56that happened along the way.
03:58Okay.
03:59Walk me through the morning of July 25th, 2015.
04:04That morning, I was at home in the bed.
04:07And that's when Ariana called my phone.
04:09And she was like, did you know Diamond and King was missing?
04:12And I was like, no.
04:13And Ariana is your?
04:15My daughter.
04:16King's mom.
04:17What time was this?
04:18Around 12.
04:20Was it often that Ariana would drop King off at the house at her father's?
04:25Yeah.
04:26She would drop him off on the weekends.
04:28When you got the phone call from Ariana that Diamond and King were missing,
04:36what was going through your mind?
04:39We instantly was like, come on, we're going out there.
04:41Who is we?
04:42Me, my son, and my ex-boyfriend.
04:47When you got to Gary, what did you do?
04:51First, we stopped at the house and we spoke with Eugene and Michelle was out there
04:55and she told us what happened.
04:57What happened?
04:57She said she dozed off and when she woke up, they both was gone.
05:02Are those her words to you?
05:04Yeah.
05:05She didn't go into nothing that happened before.
05:07She was asleep.
05:08Yeah.
05:09Dozed off.
05:11They both was gone.
05:15When police arrived at the home that morning, Michelle reported that Diamond and King had
05:21woken up early, but that she put them down for a nap at around 10 a.m.
05:28According to the police report, they all fell asleep in the same room.
05:32And when she woke up, Diamond and King were gone.
05:38When Diamond went missing, she was 21 years old.
05:42And she had been diagnosed with Prader-Wooley syndrome.
05:46Tell me what that is.
05:48It's a disease which causes her to eat and not know when she's full.
05:51So she's constantly hungry.
05:54Yes.
05:54And she'll go out searching for food.
05:57From what I understand, it affects the muscles, which affects her growth.
06:02Yes.
06:03And I think you said that when she went missing mentally, she was functioning between the ages
06:11of a five-year-old and a seven-year-old.
06:13Right.
06:13Would you say that was accurate?
06:15Yes.
06:17At this point, what are you thinking about Diamond and King waking up early in the morning,
06:26going back to sleep, being put down for a nap?
06:29What are your thoughts about that?
06:31It's a little strange to me that King would be ready to take a nap at that time because
06:37by him being an active two-year-old, it's kind of weird for him to take a nap that early.
06:44So you arrived there, you have your family members there, was the police there when you
06:49got there?
06:50No.
06:51Was there police canvassing in the neighborhood?
06:54No.
06:54So you mean to tell me there was just the immediate family out there looking for the kids?
06:58Yeah, they said that we had to wait 24 hours before they could start.
07:03What did you do?
07:06Diamond!
07:08We jumped up and we started searching.
07:11King!
07:13What are you thinking at this point?
07:16I got scared.
07:18The neighborhood was such a bad neighborhood, and it was just overwhelming.
07:26When did you begin to realize that this was a different situation other than her just wandering
07:34off from the house?
07:35It was after a few hours, Diamond.
07:39She couldn't walk that far, and I know she can't keep up with King physically.
07:44The worst part of it is that my job is to protect them, and I wasn't able, you know, to
07:52protect them.
07:53I understand.
07:55I want my babies back home, and it's like the world's still going on every single day.
08:02And I can't, there's nothing I can do.
08:06I just want them home.
08:08I just want them home.
08:08I want to know where they are.
08:17After talking with LaShawn today, I've been left with one big question.
08:24How do you let two of the most vulnerable people get out of the house while you're asleep?
08:31I want to know what was going on behind closed doors that morning.
08:45Gary, Indiana is only 30 miles south of Chicago, but it's a world away.
08:55In the 60s, it was a booming steel town.
08:59Today, poverty is rampant.
09:03There are more than 15,000 abandoned buildings.
09:08At the time of Diamond and King's disappearance, the murder rate was more than triple Chicago's.
09:16Just being out here and thinking about Diamond and King out here wandering around,
09:23maybe trying to find their way back home, I would be afraid.
09:29In the days after Diamond and King disappeared, Diamond's father Eugene and his wife Michelle
09:36were all over the news, pleading for help and sharing their grief.
09:42We're not worried about our repercussions or anything like that. We just want them back safe.
09:47Just call his number. You can drop them off any place and we'll even pick them up.
09:54But as the weeks passed, that spotlight turned into a target and they found themselves facing backlash on social media.
10:06Attacks claimed that their stories of what happened that day did not add up.
10:16Attacks claimed that they were all over the news.
10:17Almost 10 years ago, Michelle and Eugene set up their command center right here at this community center.
10:25And today, I want to hear her timeline and her own words and I want to see if she's being
10:31honest with me or if she's bullshitting.
10:37So I guess maybe I want to start with a lot of statements being made about you.
10:43How did that affect you?
10:46I just can't hardly live with myself some days because I feel ultimately responsible for losing those children.
10:54People would say they thought that I had something to do with it.
10:58People posted my picture on Facebook and wrote suspect.
11:03I wish I could go back and redo the whole day.
11:06I understand. So let's start from the beginning of that morning.
11:10Okay.
11:10What time did you get up? What went on to the point that you couldn't find them and you called
11:16the police?
11:19It was about 5 in the morning. King had woke up Diamond. She woke up early every day.
11:29Jean had left and went to the grocery store. After he got home, we put everything up and then he
11:36left to go to work.
11:37About what time was this?
11:39I would say that was around 7-ish. I gave King a bath. Diamond took a bath.
11:45After breakfast and everything, Diamond went back and laid down.
11:48Where was King?
11:50He was in bed with me. I put him in the middle of the bed and I put the movie
11:56Frozen on.
12:00And where was Diamond?
12:01Diamond was on a sleeping bag and blankets stacked up, supposed to be soft. And I noticed they were
12:09getting sleepy. I was sleepy and I dozed off.
12:14About what time was it?
12:15This was about 10.30 in the morning.
12:18What happened when you woke up?
12:21I woke up and it was like 11.10.
12:24Was there anything in particular you think woke you? Or you just jumped up?
12:29I just jumped up. I don't know why I woke up.
12:32And I just hit the door that was unlocked, ran down the porch and they were gone.
12:40Was the door locked before you went to sleep?
12:43Yes. The front door had been shut, but it was unlocked.
12:49Why was it unlocked?
12:50She unlocked it.
12:52She unlocked it?
12:53Diamond?
12:54Yes.
12:55What were you thinking when you couldn't see Diamond and King?
13:00At that point, I called my husband, Eugene, and told him that the kids had gotten out of the house.
13:06I drove around the block and I didn't see them.
13:10So about what time was it when you called the police?
13:13I would say it was just minutes after 11, 12, 11, 15.
13:18What happened next?
13:20Diamond would get out. She was always headed to a store.
13:23She knew there was a family dollar up the street.
13:26Mm-hmm.
13:26And I just knew in the bottom of my heart that's where they had to be.
13:30I drove up to the family dollar and nobody had seen them.
13:34That's when I knew that they were gone.
13:43What do you think happened to these children?
13:46I think that either somebody picked them up in a car or...
13:50Somebody like whom?
13:51I have no idea.
13:52I think somebody had to put them in a car or we would have seen them on foot.
13:56Is that your belief?
13:58That's my belief.
14:00There's been a lot of accusations about Michelle.
14:04Based on our conversation today, I can see that she's nervous and she's hurting.
14:10But I don't see anything that would make me believe she had anything to do with their disappearance.
14:19The question is, what happened to them when they stepped out that door?
14:28Two days after Diamond and King disappeared, the media descended on Gary, Indiana.
14:3521-year-old Diamond Bynum and her two-year-old nephew, King Walker, have been missing for days now.
14:40Diamond, who's mentally challenged, has been without her medication.
14:43If she doesn't take the medicine, she won't think right at all.
14:47Now the search intensifies.
14:50All right, negative five in the dead end, real.
14:51On July 29th, four days after the disappearance, Gary P.D. joined the hunt with canines,
15:00searching hundreds of abandoned houses.
15:04Search and rescue!
15:05Anybody in here?
15:07You're not in trouble.
15:08We're looking for a little kid.
15:09At that point, there have been three possible sightings of Diamond and King.
15:17The first by a man selling watermelons near the home, a second at a restaurant,
15:25and a third person said they saw Diamond collecting cans near the highway.
15:31But none of these sightings were confirmed.
15:36Here's the deal. We have Michelle giving us a statement.
15:43Kids are out of the house.
15:45We don't know what path these kids took.
15:47So what could have happened to the children?
15:50We know they got the dogs out to search.
15:53It says it right here in the newspaper.
15:55The sheriff's department said the canine comes to the house.
15:59They picked up the scent on Wednesday, which is approximately four days after.
16:03The kids went missing.
16:05He picked up a trail from the house that led him down the street over at a local gas station.
16:12So that's Matthew Street, home, neighborhood gas station.
16:17And that's where the scent was lost.
16:19The dog tracked the scent to the gas station, and that's where the scent ended.
16:23That is correct.
16:24If those dogs have lost the scent, that means somebody picked those kids up in a vehicle and drove off.
16:35What we need from Gary PD is to give us the full police report.
16:42That would give us a lot of answers as to who they talk to.
16:47I want to know what's being done and what needs to be done.
16:52And Gary PD can give us those answers.
16:56Nobody just disappears.
16:59In all of these cases, somebody knows something.
17:02And I intend to find out who that is.
17:06This is what I do.
17:18When Gary PD obtained security footage from the gas station, where canines lost Diamond and King's scent,
17:27they were nowhere to be seen.
17:30Which raised the questions, were they out of view of the cameras?
17:36Or were they already inside a vehicle?
17:40Most importantly, who were they with?
17:47We've reached out to Gary PD multiple times, hoping that they'd speak with us and share more information from their
17:54investigation.
17:56But so far, they've declined.
18:03LaShawn has sent me off to a podcaster named Catherine Backus that has done a lot of work on this
18:11case.
18:13Supposedly, she's gotten her hands on some police reports and she has a lot of information to share.
18:23How did you begin investigating Diamond and King and just information that you were able to uncover?
18:33Somebody sent me Diamond and King's case and I felt for LaShawn and the family and, you know, feel like
18:41there was not enough done for them.
18:43So I just started digging and there were two suspects listed in the police report.
18:57I didn't see anything in any of the police reports about how Dollar became a person of interest for them.
19:04But there was this one about T-Baby that I thought was interesting.
19:10There were two girls that had come into the police department to report a tip.
19:14I'll let you read it.
19:16Okay, so it says two females advised they heard a male named T-Baby telling someone he killed Diamond and
19:23King.
19:24They stated T-Baby had taken them to a basement of an abandoned house near the railroad tracks, where he
19:32raped and strangled Diamond until she was not breathing.
19:35While he was assaulting Diamond, King began to scream so he began punching the child as he beat the child
19:41to death.
19:43T-Baby said he had left the two bodies in the basement of the abandoned home.
19:49Officers checked several abandoned homes in the area, but had to stop searching due to the volume of calls that
19:55were pending.
19:56Wow.
19:57So this report was made to the police at midnight.
20:01So I don't know what abandoned houses they were able to search at midnight.
20:05I don't know if they went back.
20:08We don't know if they got dogs out there involved and how thorough the search was at the time.
20:15None of these people have been convicted of any of these things that we're talking about.
20:20Right.
20:22But this definitely sounds like an area that needs to be searched.
20:27The thing about missing persons cases is that they're always twists and turns.
20:33You might think you've reached a dead end, but then new information comes to light and takes you in a
20:39totally different direction.
20:46While we're tracking down the names that we received from Catherine, I'm going to meet with Eugene Vinyl, Diamond's father.
20:56Maybe he's heard of some of these names before that police have been looking at.
21:02Eugene, I'm Pam Childs.
21:04Nice to meet you.
21:04So nice to meet you.
21:05Nice to meet you all, sir.
21:06Let's go inside.
21:08When's the last time that you've had contact with any police agency?
21:15It's been years, and they told me that they could not give me any notes or what has been taken
21:21care of because the case is still open.
21:24I know that Gary P.D. had spoken about one particular gentleman here that goes by the nickname Dollar.
21:34But have you ever heard of T. Baby?
21:38Yes. And that was through the first police officer who worked on there.
21:43Otono.
21:43OK.
21:44He showed me a picture of a man.
21:46So then we went to the block that the man stayed at.
21:49The detective then called the guy who was standing out in front of the house over to the car while
21:57I was sitting in the front seat.
21:58Mm-hmm.
22:00The guy's name was T. Baby.
22:04Did you have a conversation?
22:05I didn't have a conversation at all because I was just sitting there.
22:09It was just banter with him.
22:11He wasn't really trying to say anything.
22:14So he really wasn't talking about anything specific?
22:17No.
22:18The whole purpose was so I could get a look at him.
22:22OK.
22:23What do you know about any other persons of interest that Gary P.D. talked to?
22:28When they pulled me in for questioning, they asked me, did I do this?
22:33I told them no.
22:34And then the question was all about LaShawn.
22:37What did they say to you about LaShawn?
22:41They informed me that Diamond's mother, LaShawn Walker,
22:45failed three lie detector tests, polygraph tests.
22:48Wow.
22:49OK.
22:50OK.
22:50Wow.
22:51All right.
22:52Um, did they give you, like, any information on how it's possible to fail the polygraph test
23:01three times?
23:02No, they didn't say anything about how it's possible.
23:06But what they did tell me is that I should watch myself around her.
23:10OK.
23:11But with her failing the polygraph test three times,
23:17I believe LaShawn had something to do with them and she knows what happened to them.
23:24OK.
23:29It's OK.
23:34Take your time.
23:35Take your time.
23:38I'm just messed up on this.
23:40I got it.
23:41I understand.
23:48I always looked at myself as, like, the protector, always be there for my kids and all like that.
23:53Mm-hmm.
23:54And on my watch, something this horrible happened to them.
24:00Your heart is hurting.
24:01And if I can do anything to make that better, that's what I'm looking forward to doing.
24:07OK.
24:13I was surprised about a lot of things that Mr. Bynum shared.
24:18He feels like Diamond's mother has something to do with it.
24:22And I didn't know that she did not do well on the polygraph.
24:27So I want to get to the bottom of what really happened on the day that Diamond and King walked
24:35out of that house.
24:44Diamond's father, Eugene, and Katherine Backus have both mentioned an individual named T-Baby
24:52that they heard may have been involved in the disappearance of Diamond and King.
24:59Today, I've got a video call with a retired detective from Gary P.D.
25:04He worked Diamond and King's case.
25:07And I understand he has some information he's willing to share about Dollar and T-Baby.
25:16I'm really grateful that you've agreed to, you know, interview with me.
25:22Yes, ma'am.
25:23I've read about an individual named Dollar in the newspaper.
25:27And I know that he was a suspect.
25:30I understand that he gave you a story about something happening in a basement?
25:37Correct.
25:38Tell me exactly what Dollar told you.
25:40Dollar had said as he went to a house.
25:43No, or a drug activity.
25:45Okay.
25:45So people were coming in and out of that house.
25:47When he got to the basement, there were other men drinking and partying.
25:52There was a gentleman with a nickname called T-Baby.
25:57And Dollar said that Diamond was sitting in the chair.
26:01The little child was sitting next to Diamond.
26:04And the men were sexually assaulting Diamond.
26:07And the little boy was crying, constantly crying.
26:10And Dollar told me that T-Baby said, fight that kid down.
26:18The men picked up a block and hit them over the head with the block.
26:24Both of them.
26:25So we went to a house where exactly then he pinpointed.
26:28And they went inside.
26:30And they didn't find anything.
26:32Okay.
26:33I don't know if you knew anything about this, but in November of 2015, two young ladies come
26:40into the Gary PD station.
26:43And the story they reported to the police is very similar.
26:49Now, according to the report, they overheard T-Baby having a conversation with another person.
26:56And he's telling the story that he got Diamond and he sexually assaulted her and he strangled her
27:06in this basement.
27:07The little boy was screaming.
27:10And he beat him to death.
27:15So my thing is this.
27:17This story is so similar to your initial interview.
27:22That was a similar story that Dollar had told us three months earlier.
27:26Very safe scenario.
27:28Were you still on this case in November?
27:30In 2015, I believe homicide was.
27:33Okay.
27:33Do you have any idea why T-Baby wasn't arrested?
27:36Yeah, because it was hearsay.
27:38So they needed to find evidence.
27:39They needed to find something that prosecutors could bring him in.
27:43Did they bring him in and question him?
27:46I don't know.
27:47After our interview with Dollar, Dollar left the state immediately.
27:50I believe he was scared of T-Baby.
27:53A lot of people are scared of that individual.
27:55Okay.
27:56Now, these two people, neither one has been charged with any crime.
28:03No, they were not charged with anything that I know of.
28:06Because the case was taken out of my hands and given to the Northwest Homicide Division.
28:12Why would they make this a homicide if we don't have any bodies?
28:15I mean, do they have something we don't know about?
28:18That's a good question.
28:19Very good question.
28:26To this day, neither T-Baby nor Dollar have been publicly named as a suspect.
28:32But when a case has been cold for 10 years, you need to chase every lead.
28:38We believe the house where Detective Votano searched was the location reported by Dollar.
28:44But nothing was found.
28:46So in light of multiple witness statements that point to another abandoned house nearby,
28:55we feel a thorough search of this two-block radius needs to be conducted.
29:02Because from what I can gather, that's never occurred.
29:07My partner Joe Strzok and I are working with Team NWI Discovery,
29:13a volunteer group that goes out searching for missing and deceased individuals.
29:24Thank you so much for coming.
29:26I'm Pam Childs, everybody.
29:27Joe Strzok.
29:29We know that from the police reports was that these children were in the basement,
29:35supposedly along the railroad tracks.
29:38So let's see what we can find.
29:40We have the dogs going first, make sure everything is cleared,
29:43and then we could call everybody else in to do a good thorough search.
29:47We'll just follow your lead.
29:50Even though it's been 10 years since Diamond and King disappeared,
29:54these cadaver dogs have been known to be able to pick up a scent of human remains
29:59that have been buried for decades.
30:04There's no way here, huh?
30:06No, this door is locked.
30:11Whoa.
30:12Don't step there.
30:13No, don't step right there.
30:15The walls are crumbling.
30:17The idea of Diamond and King being kept in one of these homes is horrific.
30:24Who's in the house? Anybody in the house?
30:28What's that, a crawl space?
30:29Mm-hmm.
30:33She's not indicating nothing that's there.
30:36Clear.
30:37All these buildings were burned.
30:39This is crazy.
30:42So, Pam, there's a house next door that has some type of interest.
30:45Okay.
30:51I got radioed in that one of our teammates just found some bones.
30:56We don't want to put a lot of weight on the main floor.
30:58We don't want anything to collapse.
31:06We don't want anything to collapse.
31:06Extremely careful.
31:10One of our teammates just found some bones inside the crawl space here.
31:17If we're confirming that there's bones down there, I think we should call Gary PD
31:23and have them notify their crime lab.
31:25Sounds like a good idea.
31:26I'm gonna try to get down to myself though.
31:28Okay.
31:32Somebody says basement.
31:34You know, they could have dumped these kids in the crawl space.
31:35You know, who knows, you know?
31:38Drop the nails, Lorenzo.
31:42There's some clothing down here.
31:48The blue jacket.
31:5010-12.
31:5110-12.
31:52Next item, blue sweatpants.
31:572XL.
31:59Diamond, she weighed about 250 pounds.
32:03All she was identified with wearing was blue pants.
32:08It is potential that Lorenzo has recovered.
32:14Diamond's clothing.
32:21So we found ductwork with hidden clothes.
32:24Those clothes just don't get there just because they fell through the floor.
32:28Someone actually picked up the grade of the vent and stuffed them inside the ductwork.
32:34One of the sizes was 10-12, small childs.
32:39The other pair of sweatpants was 2X, which would be probably the size of a diamond.
32:47Do you see any white gym shoes?
32:48Little kids' white gym shoes down there now?
32:50No.
32:50No, no white gym shoes.
32:52There was some phone we couldn't identify because we didn't find nothing that really stands out like
32:57a human skull, anything like that.
32:59We'll call Gary PD to come out and they're going to either tell us they're going to go in
33:05or they're going to tell us to go in and get it ourselves.
33:09Yep.
33:13I'm exhausted.
33:16I'm mentally fried.
33:20And I'm sad.
33:24Just rethinking the horror that Diamond may have endured is kind of frightening.
33:35And if those are her clothes in there, it's just more real.
33:41That she went through a horrific moment in the last moment of her life.
33:59Who's in charge?
34:02My name is Pam Childs.
34:03And this is retired detective Joe Strzok.
34:06And we're doing a documentary.
34:09And we received a tip.
34:12What's her name?
34:13Uh, Detective Nielsen.
34:14James.
34:15So we got a tip that at that location is where Diamond and King were killed.
34:21Are you familiar with this case in 2015?
34:23Yes.
34:24I was involved in the beginning.
34:26Okay.
34:26Yeah.
34:26Yeah.
34:27I'm very familiar with it.
34:28Okay.
34:29Okay, good.
34:31So we went inside and they found clothing stuffed into the air vent.
34:36Like, you know, they also found bones in the ground.
34:39In the crawl space.
34:41Now, Detective, here's the thing.
34:43We don't know what type of bones they were.
34:45Yeah, I appreciate it.
34:46And now we'll go and figure this out.
34:48I'll be updated.
34:53Detective Nielsen was assigned this case.
34:56He took our numbers.
34:57We got his.
34:58He did say that they're going to go in there tonight to try to recover, uh, the clothing.
35:05Now we just have to wait and see what they come back with.
35:07And we'll see if Detective Nielsen contacts us.
35:15The number one goal of a missing persons detective is to find the missing person and bring them home.
35:26The next best thing is to give the family some answers and some closure.
35:33Sometimes those answers can be tragic, can be the hardest part of my job.
35:40But at least it's answers.
35:44I'm going to meet with LaShawn, Diamond's mother, to discuss what we've uncovered with this investigation.
35:52And I want to confirm what Diamond was wearing the day she disappeared.
35:58If those are Diamond's clothes and those are in fact human remains,
36:05I need to figure out how they got there.
36:09And there is still one loose thread that I want to tie up.
36:13And that's to find out if LaShawn did in fact fail the polygraph test.
36:25You know that I've been working on your missing persons investigation for a long time.
36:33There are some things I want to, uh, ask you about in particular today.
36:38And then we can move on to other aspects of this investigation, okay?
36:44Okay.
36:46If you recall the morning that the kids were reported missing,
36:51and the description was given of what Diamond was wearing, do you know what that description is?
36:58I believe some blue, blue pants.
37:03What kind of pants would she typically wear?
37:06Um, like jogging pants or the stretchy pants.
37:10What size would you buy her?
37:14Um, probably like a 2X or a 3X.
37:18Okay, um, and the reason why I asked you about what type of pants,
37:27we did some searching out in Gary, Indiana, and in some abandoned houses.
37:33And, um, we have come across a pair of pants that we have turned over to the Gary Detectives Division.
37:43And they were blue?
37:45They were blue.
37:49They look like some type of, uh, jogging pants.
37:56I believe the size in these pants are a 2X.
38:00Okay.
38:00And we're just going to have to wait for, uh, the detectives to do their forensic analysis on
38:08and make a determination if these pants would actually belong to Diamond.
38:18Okay.
38:19Okay?
38:19If I don't hear from the detective's division at the police department,
38:25they'll be hearing from me, okay?
38:28Mm-hmm.
38:29The next thing I want to ask you about the polygraph test.
38:34What was the outcome of your test?
38:37I failed them, all three.
38:39You took the test three times?
38:40Yes.
38:42And, uh, do you remember any of the questions that they asked you?
38:46They were asking me, where are those kids?
38:48And what was your reply?
38:49I don't know.
38:51Then your next question?
38:54Um, do you have anything to do with them being missing?
38:59And I said no.
39:02Any other questions that you can recall?
39:05Um, no, those don't ones that really, like, stand out.
39:10Okay.
39:11And I, I do understand that, that you were nervous.
39:15You're probably nervous right now.
39:17Um, I am asking you some really tough questions,
39:20because these are questions that I need answers to.
39:24And so I, I want to know, is there anything that you, you want to say at this point?
39:37I would like to say for anyone, whoever, whoever it is that knows something,
39:47if they could please find it in their heart, someone knows something.
39:52And I'm just begging from the bottom of my heart and just say something.
39:57Just want them home and want closure.
40:06At the start of this investigation, there were a lot of questions about Eugene and Michelle.
40:13And obviously, there's some questions about LaShawn.
40:17But after 30 years of dealing with victims' families, I have to trust my gut.
40:23I don't believe that Eugene, Michelle, or LaShawn had anything to do with Diamond and King's disappearance.
40:32Not all missing persons investigations go like this.
40:36We found new locations to search, and we found physical evidence.
40:42Evidence that, for now, is giving this family hope.
40:46That they may finally get answers about the disappearance of Diamond and King.
41:15In the next hunt for the missing Chicago.
41:19I kept telling them she wouldn't just leave.
41:22She was talking to someone through Facebook.
41:25Was he from Chicago?
41:27No.
41:27What he said to me was very strange.
41:30Everybody is a suspect until they're no longer a suspect.
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