00:00It's great to see you. So, Alex, you wrote a really great piece in The Times laying out where Donald
00:06Trump can be hurt, where he can lose still, even though he has all of this momentum.
00:11One of the things that you point out is that if debates, like tonight, if they turn disastrous, if they
00:16turn against him, that could be part of his downfall. Explain.
00:19Trump's rivals have really shied away from him so far to try to strip the bark off.
00:22So, in your thinking, do you think it's more going to be a misstep on Trump's part or someone finally
00:29landing a punch?
00:30You know, a month ago, it could have been either or. Now, it might have to be both, that he's
00:34built this commanding position in the race where it might not be enough.
00:37I don't think the debate format really lends itself to moving numbers much at all.
00:40Oh, come on.
00:41I mean, what do you think happened to Marco Rubio in that debate before New Hampshire?
00:45Well, I mean, but it did last. No, you know, six days later, it was gone.
00:48Trump rules the news cycle, and that's where a lot of his rivals say that's why he's doing so well.
00:53Can it be both?
00:55Well, you know, some people buy this notion that people are voting for Donald Trump, right?
01:00You know, most handsome are the most elegant. They don't care.
01:03What they want is someone to go to Washington and burn it down.
01:05Barry, I want to get your take on the two latest polls when we're talking about the big states coming
01:09up.
01:09We've got a Quinnipiac poll out of Florida.
01:11Trump could pull it out in Texas because Ted Cruz is very confident of his operation there.
01:16You know, I don't know. We're going to find out, I guess.
01:17No, what is the difference is the only candidate other than Trump who has still won states,
01:21and he's won Texas, maybe one or two others.
01:23It's really hard to get him out of the race.
01:25Absolutely. And on this issue, Mitt Romney says there is now, in his words,
01:30good reason to believe there is a bombshell in Donald Trump's taxes.
01:34Trump has rejected that. He's taken to Twitter to take him on, calling Mitt Romney a dope.
01:39Barry, will Donald Trump release his tax returns?
01:41I have no idea.
01:42Should he?
01:44Well, it's up to him.
01:45Honesty about his character.
01:47And the American public have become, it's not required,
01:49but have become very accustomed to having this amount of transparency with presidential candidates.
01:53Guys, it's great to see you. We'll see what happens tonight.
01:55And if it matters, we'll see, Barry. I'll fight you on that.
01:58I think it does. Great to see you both.
