00:00our man on the scene john fanta gonna weigh in on this he's cleveland's own nbc sports man about
00:05town john fanta his time of the year too college basketball heating up on the make it right call
00:10kind of right hotline john welcome to the show buddy here we go guys great to be with you talking
00:15to you courtside at madison square garden uh right now oh look at that wow so of course when we
00:22think
00:22about big city we got to think about uh the miami red hawks uh bruce pearl tnt tnt analyst now
00:29long
00:29time college basketball coach said they have no shot shouldn't have a shot to make the tournament
00:34outside of winning their own conference tournament uh the miami ad has since responded where do you
00:42stand on this david versus goliath bruce pearl versus the miami red hawks basketball program
00:47the miami red hawks should be in the ncaa tournament especially if they finish their regular season with
00:56a win over ohio uh if they go into cleveland undefeated anything can happen in a conference
01:03tournament no matter what the league is and i do believe that an akron or a kent state could emerge
01:08as as that champion i think the league is is very good i think it's as good as it's been
01:12in a long
01:13time you cannot sit here and tell me uh that the season is worth playing if you went undefeated in
01:22the regular season then showed up to a neutral court where you know you could be playing a pseudo
01:27road game with the amount of fans that an akron or a kent would bring and that then you don't
01:32deserve
01:32to be in march madness miami university deserves to dance unless they lose their next you know two
01:41games they were to lose to ohio and then lose in their first game in the in the mac tournament
01:47but i do
01:48believe even with a loss to ohio uh that if they made the mac final and they were to fall
01:53that team
01:54has put together months and months i don't i know they don't have any quadrant one wins for those who
01:59don't know that that's the best quality win you could have in college basketball but it's also
02:02because a lot of people would not play them they asked for people to play them and they would not
02:06because high major teams in college basketball are afraid of the risk involved they won't play people
02:11and that's wrong the red hawks deserve to dance what's the point of college basketball if you go
02:15undefeated in your regular season you're not one of 68 selected to the field there would be no point
02:19let those kids into march madness all right let's get to the kyler murray discussion you heard us
02:25coming in uh where do you stand with kyler murray at the idea that he would be here on uh
02:30because
02:31it's a 36.8 million dollar uh hit that he still is going to have with arizona so it'd basically
02:35be
02:36like a million dollars it would be offsetting it would be about as cheap as you can get and you
02:40also
02:40wouldn't have to trade are you interested in the kyler murray business i'm interested in the
02:45business and i think that he would be a part of six or seven wins but i don't think many
02:50people
02:50uh other than you know some delusional folks think the browns are not going to win 10 plus games next
02:56year they're just not i mean if you if you think that they are i don't know what to tell
03:01you but
03:02i mean i i got uh a bridge for you to buy because that that that just that's not my
03:08expectation level
03:09for them um and if it is for you guys and you that's what you want i would love to
03:14know what the route
03:14is for that but for that cheap uh i would be willing to bring him in i think the browns
03:20are
03:20going to have to go and get a veteran quarterback uh and i'm kyler obviously is coming off of you
03:26know
03:26i mean a season in which he plays five games and there's a lot of unknowns with him you know
03:32um but
03:33the year prior to that threw for close to 4 000 yards so i'm interested in it i'm interested in
03:38having
03:38the conversation because i do think it's necessary for this franchise to go and get someone that has
03:44some years of nfl experience on their roster for training camp you know i now am i saying that he
03:50is the foregone conclusion starter for this football team no but am i supportive of the idea that i could
03:55pay on the cheap and have him around for the competition and see if he could win it and see
04:00if
04:00todd munkin and him could mesh and vibe yes i'm interested in that concept all right in this line
04:06then john if we put all the price tag aside the draft collateral the financial stuff the you know the
04:14the years it would cost who is bar none just hands down the best quarterback the browns could have this
04:20offseason
04:25don't take too long now john yeah i i don't know like who's realistic right i mean anybody available
04:33seems realistic yeah but but it doesn't feel like that that's that that's going to be a thing for
04:41the cleveland browns because there's all this discourse about deshaun watson and shador sanders and
04:49and what could happen uh with that but like i mean what what's your roadmap who do you want
04:55i think we've both been pretty vocal about kyle murray if it's going to go down that way i also
04:59am
04:59interested to some degree in mac jones my yeah i mean i guess those are the two that that that
05:05come
05:05up but it's not like there's a home run name that's out there that's why i was a little bit
05:10taken aback by the by the uh by the question just because i'm like i'm thinking to myself who could
05:15it be who who who there's no one out there that checks every box so you you really can't be
05:22picky
05:22on this i mean you can be but what what what can you really expect if it's matt jones and
05:29kyler
05:29murray you know it's not like there's there's a selection of seven or eight guys that are out
05:34there for the browns to choose from this is not cleveland idol uh i wish i sure wish it was
05:39but it's
05:40not i mean you know uh everything aside like no i'm not interested in you know i wasn't interested
05:49in the kirk cousins type thing you know i i know uh you know there was some daniel jones type
05:55discourse but like i don't like i don't think that the browns i think that kyler murray and mac jones
06:01are both uh more valuable than the other than the other options that i've seen and the other options
06:07that we've seen although the colts placed a transition tag on daniel jones the new york times
06:12reports here in the last hour um first on a quarterback in 30 years nonetheless that just happened
06:18in the last hour but like i don't mac jones and and um and kyler murray are the two guys
06:24that that
06:24i've always looked at with both of you to me of the two like murray threw for close to 4
06:31000 yards in
06:322024 you know has done it four times in his career where he's thrown for close to 4 000 yards
06:38so
06:39like i know that there's some durability i know that there's some kenny make up work um
06:45but i i'm interested in this i i think that this fits where the browns are at as an organization
06:50i'd
06:51be very interested in murray if he says no do you feel like the plan then is shador and deshawn
06:56and
06:56they just kind of battle it out and we go from there well you know i i i still think
07:04that there's
07:04more to me matt jones i'm not going to sit here and say that he's that he solves all the
07:11problems
07:12okay um but i do think guys that it's important for this organization to go and get a quarterback
07:18someone else not not a first round pick in the nfl draft they have too many other needs as a
07:25franchise than to go and draft another quarterback especially that early i know andrew barry said in
07:31his press conference it's the most important position and and whatnot you know i i almost
07:35want to look back and say yeah okay most important position nice job drafting dylan gabriel in the
07:39third round like like yeah it is the most important position and one of the draft picks that you
07:44exhausted on that was a guy who was not worthy of a third round pick in a peewee league nor
07:49alone the
07:49national football league i'm sorry but it's just the truth he's not an nfl player so the the fact is
07:55like i don't like the idea of shador and deshawn i don't i don't know if you two are actually
08:01okay
08:02with it ultimately but i am not a fan of that because deshawn watson has shown me nothing that
08:07says that he can be part of winning in cleveland and shador sanders has yet to show me enough he
08:13should be in the mix he could be the week one starter he may be deserving of the job but
08:17i think
08:18the competition has to be more legitimized agree or disagree yeah yeah to some degree i well
08:24i think it depends on what your actual goal is if your goal is to have a top five pick
08:30next year
08:30let it ride baby if your if your goal is to win as many games which maybe sets todd munkett
08:36up in
08:36the best possible situation this year then i do think i need something other than shador versus
08:41anthony richardson versus deshawn watson this offseason john let me tell you what i like about
08:44shador versus deshawn in this i think there's a boom or bust component that i'm intrigued by so if he
08:49busts out and it absolutely stinks then great you're in position for 2027 and the draft which i think is
08:54ultimately what they're going for anyway and then if he booms then great he booms and you have a
08:58awesome quarterback on a rookie deal like saying boom in that moment yeah i was gonna turn to the
09:02costco guys if if he look i agree with that jonathan i do agree with that here's my counter to
09:10that
09:10does the gm align with that thinking because in my opinion the counter that i would give you is
09:16if sanders bombs out right and the whole thing drops out does barry have the job security to
09:24afford another season like this yeah that's something we just don't know uh it seems like
09:28right right now he feels like he's like the right hand man of haslam you can make an argument that
09:33if
09:33his draft class this year hits like it did last year it's not going to matter what happens on the
09:36actual field for this one more season well i okay i don't i don't know if i'd like i mean
09:43i don't
09:43agree with that a little bit we just don't we just don't know john yeah oh yeah well i mean
09:48it
09:48sounds like 2020 we just don't know like here's the thing at some point can you can you have you
09:55know three consecutive seasons of just losing on losing on losing and continue to make continue to
10:03have your your job like i i get it we don't know but like what is the expectation level then
10:10i guess i
10:10guess only time will tell on what the bronze honestly expect from year one of the munkin era
10:16and maybe like that then we what i will say is then we have to remember these conversations we have
10:22to remember what they do with the personnel when we evaluate todd munkin because it's going to be
10:26hard to evaluate your first year head coach when the when this when the stack of cards could be
10:31stacked against when the deck of cards could be stacked against him we shouldn't be blaming him if
10:36chador sanders isn't particularly good i'm okay with the boomer bust i like i actually like that
10:41school of thought and honestly like in that regard don't go and get a veteran just to win seven games
10:47the worst place you can be is purgatory so i get that i don't know if the general manager feels
10:52the
10:52same way as we do when that guy's been in place for as long as he has been and and
10:57let's face it guys
10:58he's probably the next guy like when the browns i hope that they don't have to make a change in
11:02i hope that they don't have to make a change for the next five years wow like i really hope
11:07that
11:07there's no change and that all that the head coach hire works out and the gm works out i think
11:11we all
11:12hope that as browns fans you should hope for that you should hope for progression and winning but
11:18let's face it the next time they have to make a change that gm is like is at this point
11:22probably
11:23the one to go does he feel safe enough does he feel good enough about his status to say you
11:29know
11:29what i am going to go boom or bust here jimmy this is what we're doing and this is why
11:33we're doing
11:33it but i believe that our draft people are some of the best in the league they just proved it
11:37last
11:37year and they can prove it again for the next two drafts how do you feel john march means fanta
11:43we know you got a game tonight enjoy the gadden and we'll uh we'll talk to you next tuesday
11:49i love talking with you guys because the discussion is always fun happy march and i look forward
11:55to next tuesday thanks fellas thank you
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