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Ella Langley joins us inside our Nashville studios to talk about her new album, 'Dandelion,' the success of "Choosin' Texas," and more during the 'Superstar Power Hour' interview with Katie Neal.
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00:00I just want to start and ask you, like, how are you? I feel like you have been on a
00:03rollercoaster, woman.
00:06Yeah, pretty much since you look like you love me, it has been one hell of a ride.
00:10Are you good? How are you? Like, are you rested? Are you sleeping?
00:13Are you...
00:14Well, rested. I don't think this is my time of life to be, my time to be rested, you know
00:20what I mean?
00:20But I am, my soul feels rested in the way that I'm not guessing anymore, I'm not chasing anything, I'm
00:30not trying to be anything.
00:31This record is exactly what I wanted out of it, and it is just me.
00:36And I feel like this is going to be my record where everyone's going to be like, that's where the
00:40artistry clicked for her, you know?
00:42Really?
00:42Yeah, I think Hungover, for me personally, was my accumulation of the best songs I had written from 21 to
00:5324 years old, 20 to 24 years old.
00:59And while that record, I think I love that record so much, Dandelion is different in the way that it
01:07was so thought through before the songs were even there, you know?
01:09I had the title before I went into every single one of these rides, I got to play them the
01:13title track, I got to tell them what it was about.
01:15And through making this record, I kind of figured it out myself almost, you know?
01:20Because I didn't really feel a lot of change in the way of, like, you have to sound like this,
01:26and you have to do this to be this way.
01:28Because I just proved everyone wrong with You Look Like You Love Me, you know?
01:31Like, everyone told me that song was not going to do well, and it changed my life.
01:36So, for me, it just gave me this ability to trust myself as an artist, as a creator, as a
01:43songwriter.
01:44And that's what we did in every one of these rides, and if it felt right, we believed in it,
01:49and we didn't...
01:50None of these songs, I felt like I was banging my head against the wall to get it written, you
01:53know?
01:53Like, I genuinely, like, was dancing around the room, writing these.
01:57They're so exciting, and then some of them are so heartfelt and really explain who I am as a person.
02:05And I think if you've never heard an interview of mine, if you've never seen me live, don't know anything
02:11about me, you could learn...
02:12You'd know about me if you'd listen to this record, you know?
02:15That's so beautiful.
02:16It's so personal in that way.
02:18But very exploratory.
02:19I'm so excited.
02:21It makes me so happy to hear you say that, because I talk to so many artists, and I can
02:25always see it.
02:25Like, that first album comes, and like you said, it's just like a culmination of all the best songs you've
02:29written.
02:29And then it usually isn't until, like, album three, four, or five, where somebody is sitting here in the position
02:34that you're in right now.
02:35Like, feeling really sure of their artistry, and like, I know what I'm doing and what I want to say.
02:39So I'm so happy for you.
02:41It definitely took this record to do that.
02:44I mean, this job is just so much trial and error, you know?
02:47And figuring it out, flying by the seat of your pants.
02:52But I co-produced this record with Ben West, and Miranda Lambert, executive, produced it.
02:58But going in there as a woman producer, you know, especially as the artist, you know, you kind of worry
03:04about, like, people, are they going to listen to me, you know?
03:07And, man, everyone just did.
03:09They believed in it.
03:09They believed in this record, and they have.
03:12And it hasn't even come out yet.
03:13Yeah.
03:14So I can't wait for people to hear it.
03:15Well, and I think a lot of that is like what you said.
03:17Like, you proved everyone wrong with you look like you love me.
03:19And I was thinking about how incredible it is, Ella, that, like, that song was so big.
03:25And then you come out with Choose in Texas, and it's, like, dwarfing that now, almost.
03:30Like, it's number one everywhere on everything.
03:32And it just.
03:33Well, you got to think.
03:34There's a whole song that went number one in between those two.
03:36It's Weren't for the Wind.
03:36And you forget about that.
03:38And this is all, like, bam, bam, bam, you know?
03:41And just trying to.
03:45I don't feel like I'm playing keep up right now, though, with all of the things happening.
03:49It's definitely keeping my head spinning all the time.
03:52I mean, every day I get some news, and I'm like, it's too much.
03:54Like, it's just too many slices, you know?
03:56Y'all are kidding me at this point.
03:57Yeah.
03:58But it's also, like, this is just music that I love to make.
04:04I love this record.
04:05I love making this record.
04:06I can't wait to perform this record.
04:08It is.
04:11It represents me in a way that I don't think I have represented myself in the fact that I think
04:16it's a little more feminine.
04:18I think it's womanly.
04:19I think I've come into myself a little more in that.
04:21I think I've always been more of a tomboy.
04:22But I think, I don't know, I hit 25, 26, really 26.
04:26And I was like, pfft.
04:27You do not move like a tomboy.
04:29Like, when I see you on stage, and you're dancing in your music videos, though, but, like, you are so
04:34good at that.
04:35I feel like everyone sees highlights.
04:36I do so many weird things on stage.
04:38It's unreal.
04:39It's unreal.
04:40I can't believe.
04:41It's like, it's so hard.
04:42What do you feel like is the, like, what's a weird thing that you're doing?
04:45Every night, who knows?
04:46Like, who knows what could happen?
04:49It's not planned out.
04:50Like, we get up there.
04:51I don't ever write down what I'm going to say on stage.
04:53It's just, what you're getting is what's on the top of my mind, and this is how I say it,
04:59you know?
04:59And there's definitely things that I'd like to keep as a point so my band knows that I'm not going
05:03on too long.
05:04But truly, it's just, so who knows what I could say?
05:06Anything random or weird.
05:08Oh, my God.
05:08I love it.
05:09All right.
05:09Let's go back and talk more about She's in Texas.
05:11Can you tell me, like, the story of the day that you guys wrote that song?
05:16Because it came from, like, a line, something that Miranda said, right?
05:20Well, I was 18 years old.
05:22I met this guy named Scotch Taylor in Montgomery, Alabama.
05:27There's this place called Range 231 down there.
05:29It used to be a concert place, and it's like redneck top golf.
05:34And just so redneck, I mean, literally.
05:37And this is where I played my first full band gig.
05:39I gig there a lot.
05:40And they had this festival there, and Scotch was there with somebody else.
05:43And he had written, he's good friends with Miranda.
05:47That was the first person I met that was, like, our little connect.
05:51And throughout my career, I kept meeting people that would be like, gosh, you just remind me so much of
05:57Miranda.
05:57It's weird.
05:58And people tell her that all the time.
06:01But when I met him that night, he told me this story about her having a kangaroo and then getting
06:07pulled over with the kangaroo in the car.
06:09And I had so many questions about that.
06:11I just remembered it.
06:14And every time I've ever seen her, I want to ask about it.
06:17But I wait.
06:18You know, I'm like, this isn't the right time.
06:19We're on the red carpet.
06:20You can't ask about that right now.
06:23So we write one song.
06:25We had this ride retreat.
06:26It was our first time we were writing.
06:27We write one song.
06:28And I was like, oh, no, we're homies.
06:29We're good, I think.
06:30I can say whatever I want to.
06:31I can do it now, yeah.
06:32She's cool.
06:34And so I straight up, I was like, did you ever have a pet kangaroo at one time?
06:37She goes, I did.
06:38I had a pet kangaroo.
06:39And she literally rerouted places on her tour because there were places that wouldn't have a kangaroo.
06:45She brought it on tour.
06:45She talks about Dan and Shay being out opening up.
06:49There's just like this kangaroo hopping around, you know.
06:52But she said one day she was riding dirt roads.
06:55And she had a dog in the back and a kangaroo in the passenger seat.
07:00And she ended up getting pulled over on this dirt road and somehow talked her way out of this ticket.
07:06And somehow being, she has a pet kangaroo in her passenger seat.
07:10And the lady cop was like, can I play with a kangaroo?
07:13And I was like, well, or the guy cop.
07:15And I was like, well, you know, she's from Texas.
07:18I can tell.
07:18It's probably because she had Texas plates on the back of her car.
07:22So as soon as I said that, that's kind of how I come up with a lot of songs.
07:28It's really just in conversation and I'll say a phrase that I like or something just catches my ear.
07:33I don't know.
07:33And when I said, she's from Texas, I can tell.
07:35You know, talking shit on, you know, her text plates, you know.
07:38The melody to my head just, she's from Texas, I can tell.
07:42By the way, he's just stepping around the room.
07:45Sang it just like that.
07:46And Miranda was walking right behind me and said, like the girl he went home with, one he picked.
07:52And immediately, yeah, oof, like we've all experienced a feeling like that.
07:56Where you're like, you're so into somebody and they're not into you, they're into somebody else way more than you.
08:02And that sucks.
08:03So we really wrote to that feeling and kind of had to make it make sense.
08:08Like, is he from Texas, you know?
08:10And really, that's what it is.
08:11And the song can represent, she's from Texas.
08:15Because the she can represent, the state can represent, the woman he ended up going with.
08:21So many things.
08:22So many things.
08:23But, yeah, I mean, I'll never forget us.
08:26Like, I immediately, like, I was going to get a snack or go pee or something in the middle of
08:32the songs and said that line.
08:33And we just went right into the porch outside and wrote it within an hour.
08:39Oh, my God.
08:40And I'll never forget us getting the line.
08:42He always loved Amarillo by morning.
08:45Never forget her saying that.
08:46And we both went, I should have taken that as a warning.
08:51And that easy fell out.
08:52And it was just one of those kismet things, you know?
08:55And, I mean, we all love that song.
08:59Yeah.
09:01The world loves that song.
09:02I can't open my phone without hearing that song.
09:04It's the same.
09:05It's weird.
09:05Yeah.
09:06It's crazy.
09:07It is literally everywhere.
09:08Her and I are even talking about it.
09:09Like, what is happening?
09:12Because the funniest thing people ask me, they're like, did you expect this?
09:15I'm like, did I expect to make history?
09:16No.
09:17You know what I mean?
09:18Like, I mean, you hope for the best, but you can't predict that.
09:21You can love what you do and put out the best of what you got.
09:24And that's exactly what we did.
09:25And I think it's just because we put our heart in that song, you know?
09:29Like, and that's a theme throughout this record for me.
09:32As easily as that song fell out, I mean, Be Her was written in 30 minutes.
09:35That song fell out.
09:37Smash.
09:37Another smash.
09:38Love it.
09:39There's another song that's come out on the record that might or might not be the next
09:44single.
09:45I played it live before.
09:46It's called Love and Life Again.
09:49And that song was, is all about, I took some time off last year because I had to.
09:55I was just, it's too much.
09:57It got too much.
09:58This job became too much.
09:59It came more important than me, more important than my health, more important than the human
10:02version of me and not just put on, you know, go to work every day hat.
10:08And I came back from that little break and I was hanging out with my friend Ernest and
10:13he asked how I was doing.
10:14He was somebody I talked to a lot about my mental health.
10:16Him and Miranda were my two last year.
10:18I really, but I said, you know, and just like that, I'm back to love and life again.
10:24And I mean, immediately we were both like, oh, that's it.
10:27Yeah.
10:27Yeah.
10:27And the song just kind of fell out.
10:29We took it to a right the next week with Devin Dawson and finished it there.
10:32And the whole record is like that.
10:34It just genuinely were titles or songs that I didn't push for any one of these songs to
10:41be written.
10:41You know, I never went in a room thinking I need an uptempo and I need this song and I
10:45need a ballad and I need this for radio and I need this.
10:48So people think that I'm an artist.
10:50You know what I mean?
10:50Like I just wrote songs that fit this record and I knew what the record sounded like.
10:56I knew what it looked like the whole time.
10:57I had vision boards for everyone.
11:00I had reference songs.
11:01I had the title track to play them.
11:03I had the whole tea is dandelion tea is a natural detox for your liver thing.
11:09You know, so I was really explaining all of this in every single one of these rights.
11:14And even when we went to go cut the songs, I mean, I put out vision boards in front of
11:17the whole band so they could like kind of, you know, when you're playing an instrument
11:19or doing something or you're focused and you're like kind of staring off into the distance
11:23just for them to have that imagery.
11:26And this record is so visual.
11:28I'm a very visual person.
11:30I see colors with everything.
11:32Like everything.
11:32Human beings have a color that's attached.
11:34You're blue.
11:35I'm blue?
11:35Yeah.
11:36Oh, wow.
11:36Okay.
11:37I like that.
11:38Yeah.
11:38But there's just like everyone has their own thing.
11:40The days of the week, but songs.
11:42And so like this record, we had the colors for it the whole time.
11:46And so like when I was writing songs, I know this sounds actually insane, but this is how
11:49my brain works.
11:50No, I don't think it's insane at all.
11:51No, I have a very visual brain.
11:52I don't see colors for things, but I can like literally see things.
11:55Like if you're like, imagine this was over there.
11:56I can see it.
11:57Yeah.
11:57Yeah.
11:57Yeah.
11:58Good at visualizing.
11:59Yes.
11:59Yeah.
11:59Same.
11:59I visualize a lot.
12:01I love to daydream and just like think and go off and about on those, you know?
12:05And so this record is really represented in so many different ways.
12:08I think it's a lot of the senses.
12:10It's a physical record in a way, you know, there's a lot of dancing.
12:13I grew up, I loved to dance growing up.
12:15I love to dance anyways.
12:16I love music that makes me want to dance.
12:18I love putting on concerts.
12:20I love putting on shows.
12:21I want my shows to be fun.
12:22I want my shows to feel like a breath of fresh air.
12:25I want it to feel like there's no prerogative at the show other than come here and enjoy
12:29yourself.
12:30Come here and sing these songs with people who want to sing these songs with this band
12:34that we're going to give you all we've got every single night, you know, because
12:37this is something that doesn't happen all the time.
12:41Yeah.
12:41And it's weird to say that about yourself, but it's not.
12:43But it's not something that happens all the time.
12:46And so for me, it's just about taking it in and appreciating this moment.
12:53Yeah.
12:53And I think that's what I'm trying to encourage the fans to do with this record.
12:56It's like, see where I'm at in my life.
12:58If you listen to Hungover, you can kind of, you can, you'll see that.
13:02But can you imagine your early 20s self meeting your later 20s self, you know what I mean?
13:08And that's really, how do you bridge that gap?
13:10And for me, it is this record.
13:13So yeah, I think I'm just excited because I'm not, I'm not nervous about it.
13:17Like I, if they love what they've loved so far for the reasons that they love it, then
13:22I'm not worried at all.
13:23Yeah.
13:23They're going to love this.
13:24It's so funny.
13:25You say you're younger, like your young 20s self meeting your older 20s self, because
13:28there's this video that's been going around like the last couple of weeks of you playing
13:31at a Luke Combs tailgate.
13:34Oh yeah.
13:34And you're like barefoot at the tailgate, like playing in the parking garage.
13:36And I literally was watching that thinking like that girl might not really believe like
13:41all the things that were about to happen in the next handful of years.
13:45I would have, and would have not at the same time.
13:48Yeah.
13:49I don't think, yeah.
13:49I mean, you would have been so happy to hear like, oh, I'm being like, I have found success
13:54and everything's working out.
13:55But like at this level, it's crazy, Ella.
13:58Like it's amazing.
13:58I, I can't think about it for too long or it starts to send me, you know, it's nuts
14:03because what do you mean me?
14:05What did I do?
14:06So, you know what I mean?
14:08I, I, um, people I've been asked multiple times a day, like, why, why do you think people
14:12love choosing Texas?
14:13And that's, I don't know.
14:16I can tell you why I love it.
14:17I love it because I love the melody of it.
14:19I love how it makes you sway.
14:20I love how it feels country to me, but it feels like country in the eighties in the
14:26way where it's so melody driven in it.
14:28Um, I love songs where you don't have to think so hard about the twist and the flip and the,
14:36is it this, is it that?
14:38And you just can listen to the song as plainly as it can be.
14:41You can deep dive off into it.
14:42And there's obviously, I'm always going to put some stuff in there, but truly on this
14:46one, I don't know.
14:48I just wanted to be plain and simple and honest on this record.
14:52You told me before the last time we talked to that, you knew the title of this record,
14:56the day that you guys shot the music video for you look like you love me.
14:59What was it that like, did you see something that day or like, where did Dandelion come
15:04to you from?
15:05Well, I'd written Dandelion.
15:06I had that song.
15:07Um, it was in the, it was in contention for Hungover, actually.
15:13Really?
15:13Yeah.
15:14And you weighed it.
15:15But I pulled it.
15:15Wow.
15:16Because just something I was like, I don't know, man, like something about that song doesn't
15:21feel like sonically it fits on Hungover.
15:23It feels kind of like where I want to go.
15:24I love all the big chords in it.
15:26I love, um, all the different instruments that has a little blue, you know what I mean?
15:30I just, I don't know.
15:31I had this weird gut feeling about that song.
15:32So I pulled it and I was kind of just playing that song for random people.
15:37That's what I do when I'm testing things out.
15:39And we were in on my first tour bus in the back, which is like two couches and this thing
15:46and these mirrors.
15:47And Chris, my makeup artist, is back there with me.
15:49It was his first gig back with me.
15:51We'd done like one or two things, but his first gig back in a while.
15:55We're doing my hair.
15:56The car, the bus is moving everywhere.
15:57I'm like trying to do this weird thing.
16:00My hair up, dude.
16:01It's a whole thing.
16:02And I was playing him Dandelion.
16:04And when the song got over, I was like, I think it'd be a cool title track for a record.
16:09And he said, well, did you know that Dandelion tea is a natural detox for your liver?
16:16And it was like a cartoon light bulb went off over my head.
16:19I was like, bing.
16:21Yeah, that makes sense after a record called Hungover.
16:24You know?
16:25Wow.
16:26So that's, I mean, as soon as he said that, I was like, I went around the whole set that
16:29day.
16:30I was like, I got the title for the next record.
16:31They're like, we have not even put out this record.
16:34Can you chill out?
16:35I'm like, no, my brain doesn't stop.
16:37That is incredible.
16:38Yeah.
16:39Oh, my God.
16:40I'm telling you, like, with the Miranda thing, with that title track, with the songs being
16:44written, with who's on it, with what's happening, it's like, it was just the most organic, the
16:48funnest time I've ever had.
16:50It just like came to you.
16:51Yeah.
16:52Like everything.
16:53Like everyone that's, I mean, just the band, the, man, Ben West crushed it.
16:57Dave Klaus mixed it.
16:59I mean, wow.
16:59Just the trials and tribulations that we had to get through to get to the end of this record
17:04from when it started.
17:05Yeah.
17:05Wow.
17:06Like.
17:06I can't even imagine.
17:07It is so exciting to, like, finally get it out there and be like, this is what we've
17:12been doing for so long.
17:13Yes.
17:13I am, like, a huge fan already of Be Her.
17:17I've listened to it, like, a million times.
17:18Will you tell the story behind that song?
17:21So Be Her, I wrote with three guys, actually, which is funny.
17:26Smith-Onquist, Jordan Schmidt, and Hardy.
17:28Mm-hmm.
17:31And Jordan was playing this one track, and one of us had the title Be Her.
17:38And when he played that track, all I heard was, I just want to be her so bad it hurts,
17:44so bad it hurts, so I just want to be her.
17:48I just want to be her.
17:49And we just kept singing that over and over again, because when you're writing songs,
17:52whether those lyrics are going to change or not, it's good to get into how the cadence
17:56of the lyrics are moving around in the song, how the melody feels, and then I kind of fill
17:59it in like a puzzle afterwards, right?
18:01Mm-hmm.
18:01So I just kept singing that, and all of us were like, ah, that feels amazing, you know?
18:05And they fought me on doing it twice in a row on that first chorus.
18:09Really?
18:09Instead of, yeah, but they were like, it's kind of boring.
18:12I'm like, is it, or is it just really easy, fun to sing?
18:16It's so fun to sing.
18:16And it feels anthemic, and I can see this, like, I just want to be her so bad it hurts,
18:22so, you know?
18:24But, yeah, I mean, that song was written in 30 minutes.
18:26Oh, my God.
18:27So, and that song, what it's about truly is, I always say, it's not about being someone
18:33else.
18:33It's about being the her you want to be.
18:35Yeah.
18:36I think there's things that every person on this planet would like to see themselves do
18:40better as a human being.
18:41You know what I mean?
18:41Sure.
18:41If you don't, then I do not want to be around you.
18:44I do not want to be around you at all.
18:46Well, but, so those, I mean, I was just honest.
18:50Those are all things that I'm looking forward to in my life, changing about myself a little
18:55bit.
18:56You know what I mean?
18:56Like, I want to stay in my Bible.
18:58I want to not have to do a whole bottle of wine.
19:02One glass could suffice.
19:04You know what I mean?
19:04Like, why do you have to go so far?
19:06You know what I mean?
19:07What's wrong with you?
19:11You know, finding someone to love and to support and to, you know, have a safe place in this
19:18thing, world.
19:20And those are all things I like, a normal 26-year-old girl or guy or whoever in your life,
19:26whether
19:26it be those things or specifically, I think everyone can just relate to bettering yourself
19:32and wanting and seeing that version.
19:33And with that song, it's like, you just have to give in to that thing.
19:38It's not about like, okay, yeah, it's all right.
19:40We are who we are.
19:41Yes, we understand that.
19:43But give in to it like, you know, you're getting ready, you know, like be her, be the
19:48one like, you know what?
19:49I'm her tonight.
19:50I am her tonight.
19:52Exactly.
19:52If you can't be her every day, just be her tonight.
19:54Yeah, yeah.
19:55I love that.
19:56I also want to talk to you about Dandelion Tour because this is like first huge arena
20:01tour headlining.
20:03Yes, it's going to be amazing.
20:04But now this is the time where like you go from getting like a 10 by 10 box on somebody
20:07else's stage to like your own show, your production, you get to make the choices.
20:11So like, what are some of the things that you like handpicked or were really specific
20:15about that you wanted to do?
20:18I drew it.
20:20I drew the whole stage out in my journal.
20:22Like I colored it and everything like drew it out, drew the exactly how I wanted the
20:26stage to look.
20:26And that's what they gave me.
20:27Your team has to love that you just keep handing them all of the things.
20:30You're like, this is what we need.
20:31No, they do a great job.
20:32They have.
20:32There's definitely that you have to speak my language for sure.
20:35But I love to do every part of this job.
20:39I really do.
20:40And I have a hard time letting go of certain things like that.
20:44And I know I care.
20:45I've wanted to put on shows my whole life.
20:47Why wouldn't I have a say on what stage I'm going to be performing on every night?
20:50And I just care about it.
20:51And that's probably why I'm less.
20:53I'm just never rested.
20:55But I love what I do.
20:56And like, that's fun for me.
20:58Like I was just sitting in there, you know, coloring in my journal.
21:01And then we had the meeting and I just held it up to the thing.
21:03And that's what they delivered.
21:05And, yeah, I mean, I have a phenomenal team around me.
21:08I'm management, Bradley Jordan, Megan Hynde, my band, people I'm doing content with, Kaylee Robillard.
21:16She takes all my pictures she has.
21:17She's been in the van since day one, same as my guitar player.
21:19That's amazing.
21:20Wales Tony has done all my videos.
21:23Because I think there's just something special to finding your people and sticking with that, you know.
21:28And that's how we've been able to keep it original.
21:31And how we're able to go shoot something like Be Her, have one phone call about it.
21:36I'm like, this is what I think we should do.
21:37And I think it could be one cool, consistent thing.
21:39And then we get in and choreograph it.
21:41And then four hours later, it's done, you know.
21:44And you get into this flow with certain people.
21:48And my goal has always been to find that and then work with that.
21:53You know what I mean?
21:54And I'm so grateful to have done that.
21:56Because now, like, I have so many people in my camp that I, I mean, everyone I can trust.
22:00I can trust them.
22:01And I know that they're all there because they also have a dream to do this.
22:07They're not just there because they're working for me.
22:09Because a lot of them have been there when working for me was not really cool.
22:13You know what I mean?
22:13Like, who are you playing for?
22:16But, yeah, it's just, it makes everything a little more special, too.
22:19Just, you know, my guitar player played on Choose in Texas.
22:23And it's been a big thing for me to push for him to be in the studio, which is not
22:26a normal thing in this town, really.
22:29And I fought for him to be in there.
22:31And he crushed it.
22:32And, I mean, he's one of four living guitar players that, on Hot 100, Billboard Hot 100.
22:40Wow.
22:40Not even just for female.
22:42It's four living.
22:42That's amazing.
22:43But you think about, like, yeah, all the records you're breaking, but the people that you get to bring with
22:46you is, like, makes that even more special.
22:47Well, the people that are breaking them with me, it's not just me.
22:49Like, Ella Langley is an entity, you know, like, it is me, obviously, but I can't do it by myself.
22:56Yeah.
22:57I can't do it by myself, you know, but to know that I have the people around me that know
23:02and trust, you know, same thing with my label, too.
23:05You know, I think after you look like you love me and all of them, they're like, no.
23:07And I'm like, trust.
23:09And then.
23:09They did.
23:10I think, you know, now, like, they give me so much creative freedom.
23:13I just tell them, like, I just went back there and changed the next single we're putting out, you know
23:16what I mean?
23:17Because I believe that's the right thing to do.
23:18And they're really letting me explore this artistry in, like, the most independent artist kind of way you can do
23:23it as a signed artist, really.
23:25One last question before we wrap up.
23:26What songs from the album are you most excited for people to hear?
23:30Love and Life Again is one I'm really excited for them to hear.
23:34I'm really excited for this song called You and Me Time.
23:37That's the first time I've said that out loud.
23:38Ooh.
23:39So fun.
23:40That song was maybe one of my most fun I've ever written a song.
23:45Yeah.
23:45I can't remember who it was, but somebody was saying they were like, they had heard the album somewhere, like,
23:49you know, in secret, obviously.
23:51And they were like, the entire thing is amazing.
23:52There are five absolute bangers that nobody's even heard yet.
23:55And I was like, oh, my God, I'm so excited.
23:57Yeah, there's so many.
24:00There's this one called Broken on there.
24:01I'm really excited for people to hear, too.
24:02I mean, every song is a little different.
24:04It gives you different things.
24:05There's no two songs alike on this record.
24:07So.
24:08And I like that.
24:08I'm trying to make a live show.
24:10I'm trying to tell my story.
24:12And I can't do that with the same verse, chorus, melody, chorus, bridge.
24:17You know what I mean?
24:18Exactly.
24:19Over and over again.
24:20It gets boring.
24:20I get bored.
24:21I have the attention of a goldfish.
24:24You are much better than a goldfish.
24:26Ella, thank you so much for this time.
24:29I really, truly such a fan of everything that you're doing.
24:31And I'm so happy for you.
24:33It's fun to see somebody who really deserves this winning so big.
24:37And on such a big stage.
24:38Can't wait to hear the album.
24:39Thank you for the time.
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