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00:00All right, Clint, I think many people can think in their mind of the guys that are,
00:07you know the Texans are going to sign them.
00:09They're must-sign guys.
00:10They're guys that are going to be here that fit everything they want
00:15or they are that damn good or the combination.
00:18Will Anderson obviously is at the top of that list of guys that you know
00:22are must-have, must-sign guys, guys that are going to be there.
00:28I was looking up as Pro Football Focus has been doing their top 100.
00:32Okay.
00:33And Kamari Lassner slid in there at 55, 55 in the top 100 for Pro Football Focus.
00:39I do wonder if the players will do this later on in the year when they do the NFL top
00:44100.
00:44I wonder if Kamari Lassner will be in there.
00:46I told you there were times where I felt like he was this team's most consistent corner,
00:50and I thought he had a great sophomore season.
00:54But remember, where he is, he is a second-round pixel.
00:58There's no fifth-year option on him.
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01:07Is Kamari Lassner in that group?
01:10Is Kamari Lassner one of those?
01:12All right, we know must-sign guys.
01:16Also knowing that you've signed Derek Stingley to one of the biggest deals for a corner on the other side,
01:22is Kamari Lassner a guy that you know is a guy the Texans just have to sign because he's that
01:28important to them?
01:29Absolutely, 100%, without a doubt, Kamari Lassner has to be signed.
01:33Absolutely.
01:34Even with another corner making the amount of money?
01:37I mean, you just generally don't see two corners making that type of money.
01:40Well, welcome to, again, enter the conversation, do you pay your quarterback $60 million a year?
01:46I mean, these are the – Kalen Bullock, Kamari Lassner, you know, these are the guys that you're going to
01:52have to decide,
01:54do you want a $60 million quarterback or do you want to be able to keep guys like that in
01:57the building?
01:58No doubt about it.
01:59Right?
01:59You can't do it all.
02:00You can't do it all.
02:02And your ability to keep those Kamari Lassner, Kalen Bullock type of guys in this organization,
02:11it skyrockets if you decide not to pay your quarterback $50 to $60 million.
02:16If you do pay him $50 to $60 million, then now you've got to make some tough decisions.
02:20Ron, I think when you look at Kamari Lassner, it's not just a top corner in this league.
02:28It's not just about his ability to play the position corner.
02:32It's about the fact that he embodies exactly what D'Amico Ryans talks about every single day.
02:39Every time we hear from him, and I'm assuming he talks to his team every single day.
02:44Right?
02:45Love the game.
02:46Love your team.
02:47Play physical.
02:48Be able to tackle.
02:50Don't back down from anybody.
02:51Have supreme confidence.
02:52We've heard him talk about exceptional ball skills.
02:55When the ball's in the air, the ability to make plays on the football.
02:58I mean, I just, I don't know how a D'Amico Ryans coach football team lets a guy like Kamari
03:04Lasseter walk out the door.
03:06And I'm not talking about a good player.
03:08I think there's good players that they're eventually going to have to part ways with.
03:11Yeah.
03:12But he, but he can't be one of them.
03:15He can't.
03:15There is.
03:16Ron, I believe, I believe that there's three guys on this defense.
03:21By the way, real quick.
03:22Corners in the league, Sauce Gardner got 30 a year, 120, he got 85 guaranteed.
03:28Stingley got 89 guaranteed.
03:30He's got the most guaranteed money.
03:31He's getting 30 a year.
03:33JC Horn, 25 a year.
03:35He got 70 guaranteed.
03:37Are you going to keep your defense together, or are you going to break this thing up and
03:41try to do it a different way, starting with paying a quarterback 50 to $60 million?
03:45That's the decision.
03:46And it's, it's, it's, it's going to affect guys like Kamari Lasseter bottom line is, is
03:51this is a defensive driven football team.
03:54And I believe there's three guys on this defense that you would have, you would have to fire
04:01D'Amico Ryan for them to not, not be a Texan in their second contract.
04:06I think, I think it's Will Anderson.
04:08Will, I think it's Kamari Lasseter.
04:10And I think it's, I guess it wouldn't be a second contract.
04:12It has to be more of a third or fourth contract.
04:14I think it's Aziz Al-Shair.
04:16I think those.
04:16You think Aziz is in the.
04:18Absolutely.
04:19Must sign.
04:19I mean, hell.
04:20Who's all in it?
04:21Because I had Will.
04:22I had Will.
04:23I had Nico.
04:25I had, I had.
04:25Oh, you're just talking about.
04:26I'm talking about just D'Amico guys.
04:28Like there's, there's guys that I think D'Amico really likes.
04:31Like I think D'Amico really likes and admires and respect.
04:34I think Nico brings to the table.
04:35I don't believe that he views Nico the same way he views personally the way he views.
04:40You don't think Aziz Al-Shair, Kamari.
04:42Oh, yeah.
04:43But do you, but do you think he views both of them or those guys all as you got to
04:47keep
04:47must have?
04:48Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
04:49That's because I don't know that they have a whole, I think Will, Nico, I think Stingley.
04:54Definitely those three.
04:55Definitely.
04:57I don't, I don't even think he, I don't, I don't think now he will never find out, but
05:01like I, Stingley's obviously a great player, but when you stylistically, I think D'Amico
05:07would bend over backwards to keep Kamari Lasseter.
05:11I think if ever comes a time when he's got a good supporting cast and Stingley's just
05:14too expensive, I think, I think D'Amico Rhines, if we're being honest, I think D'Amico Rhines,
05:19he don't want to do it, but I think he'd rather part ways with a player like that than a
05:23guy
05:23that embodies every single thing that he preaches on a daily basis.
05:26And I think those three guys, those three guys in their own right at their own position,
05:31I think those are non-negotiables for D'Amico Rhines.
05:34And, and, and just to say like, well, and, and Kamari may really want to stay here.
05:37Cause I do think he, he loves this defense and loves it here, but Kamari hell after next
05:44year, he's, he's going to be able to command a lot of, the sooner he's definitely one of
05:49those guys, the sooner you can re-up him, the better he's a second round pick.
05:53So he's not a first, there's no five years, right?
05:54So he's, he's going to be somebody you got to make a decision on a Gus and Katie said,
06:00hell yes.
06:00He's a guy you sign.
06:02And then somebody said here on the text line, this is where, this is where teams get in trouble.
06:07You don't sign two corners with that type of money.
06:14And as Clint said, yeah, that one's probably harder to do.
06:18If you have Will Anderson's the highest paid non-quarterback, and then your quarterback's
06:23also making 50 plus that those, those are probably hard.
06:27And then have your corner making 30 and another corner, probably make it 30.
06:31Look, those are probably hard.
06:32But thanks.
06:33You said right off the bat is these are the reasons why you got to make decisions on what
06:38you're going to do.
06:38I mean, look, man, there, there's just, I mean, this is, this is the trick.
06:42This is why, again, I've said multiple times over the last, and everybody thinks, and it
06:47is obviously in, in response to the way CJ ended his year, but these are all factors.
06:53This is what the hell are you talking about?
06:54These are all factors, right?
06:56If you, we talk about it a lot with, with CJ Stroud of, if you pay him 50 or 60,
07:00well,
07:00he's going to do more with less offensively.
07:02Maybe the offensive line and maybe the receiving core, maybe the running back.
07:04No, man, this is a defensive driven football team.
07:08Every money decision you make on the offensive side of the football is going to determine whether
07:12you can keep his defense together.
07:14And we can all agree that the only reason you're even mentioned as a playoff team is
07:18because your defense is that special.
07:20And so I just, you got two or three guys coming down the pike here and it is going to
07:26be exponentially
07:27more difficult to keep them in house.
07:29If you pay your quarterback, the way that you're going to have to pay CJ Stroud to keep him.
07:32And, and I look, I, again, I just think that's why it's such a, a, a difficult decision as
07:39much as the, the, the rough play to the season for CJ.
07:43But yeah, Kamala, I disagree by the way, you can have, you can have, now you may have
07:48to part ways with Daniel Hunter, you know, in the next couple of years, but there, there's
07:52no doubt about it that you can couch this thing to where you can have, hell, I'll leave
07:56Daniel in there where you, if you're a defensive driven football team, but then you can have
08:02two of the highest paid corners and one of the highest page edge rushers paid edge rushers
08:08in the game on the same defense without a doubt.
08:14Now, can you also have one of the highest paid edge rushers opposite him?
08:17Can you, now, what do you do with, what do you do with Bullock?
08:20You know, what do you, you know, how do you, how do you keep an all pro middle linebacker
08:23that's playing lights out?
08:24Like, I mean, I don't know, I, I, there, obviously something has to give, but the quickest way
08:30for that give to impact your defense is at one position.
08:33I know folks don't like to talk about it, but it's the real, it's the real deal.
08:36Somebody text in.
08:37I think I'd take Kamari over Stingley if it came down to it, because he sets the tone and
08:43his toughness brings a lot to this defense.
08:46I think, I don't know if that is what D'Amico and company would say, but I do think they,
08:52they view him as what you said, a tone setter and his physicality and everything that that
08:57to the point you were making.
08:58Well, no, but here's the part to remember, remember who D'Amico Ryan's is D'Amico Ryan's
09:03is on record.
09:04I mean, and hell, I think before we ever coached a game here, folks were talking about, you
09:08know, D'Amico is really not a guy that, that, that likes to shadow corners with certain
09:12receivers.
09:12Now we've seen him do it with Derek Stingley.
09:14You got it.
09:14You got a weapon that talented, you'd be a fool not to do it.
09:17Right.
09:17Yeah.
09:18But, but where I'm going with it is if it's not in D'Amico's identity, I'm not saying it
09:23is, or it isn't.
09:23It's a possibility.
09:25If it's not in D'Amico's identity, like if his go-to isn't man-to-man coverage, which
09:30we know it's not, if his go-to is not man-to-man shadow coverage every time you run up
09:35against
09:35a really good wide receiver, then there's definitely 100% a case to be built with this defense
09:40in D'Amico's system that Kamari Lasseter is just as valuable as Derek Stingley Jr.
09:45Kamari Lasseter can't cover anywhere close to his, Derek Stingley Jr.'s ceiling is extremely,
09:49extremely high.
09:50It's as high as anybody in the league.
09:51Yeah.
09:52Right?
09:52But when you look, when you look at the head coach and the defensive coordinator, no disrespect,
09:58Matt Burke, but, but, you know, when you, when you look at the defensive decision maker on
10:03this team, I don't think it's crazy to say, yeah, man, Kamari Lasseter and Derek Stingley
10:09Jr.
10:10There's a decision to be made there.
10:11If they ever had to make one, I personally, me personally, I'm not breaking the defense up.
10:17I'm not, I'm not, I'm not, I'm not very least.
10:19He is not a piece that you're, you're damn sure not breaking up.
10:22I'm doing other guys you would, you would go to before you broke up.
10:25Absolutely.
10:26Derek Stingley is locked up.
10:28Will Anderson is going nowhere.
10:29Kamari Lasseter is going nowhere.
10:31Aziz Alshayer is going nowhere.
10:33And I'll be honest with you.
10:34Bullock is really flirting with it.
10:36And given the, given the, the, where's Petrie?
10:38They've locked.
10:39Yeah, but I don't know.
10:40I'll be honest.
10:40You can get out of that though.
10:41But I don't, I don't know if Petrie's ever going to be, we're talking.
10:43And we're talking either like, he's not in the, I got to, we got to, we got, he's got
10:49to be here.
10:49I love Petrie, man.
10:50Don't, I know Larry Stafford's going to be calling back.
10:52Look, I love Petrie on his team.
10:55I don't think Petrie's ever going to demand the level of money or have the level of value
11:00on his defense as the guys that I'm talking about.
11:03Right.
11:03I just, I just don't.
11:04The position, whether it's a position he plays or whatever it may be.
11:07I think he's great.
11:08I'm not minimizing.
11:08He is.
11:09I think he's worth more money than he's ever going to make.
11:10That's where I'm going.
11:11He, I think he's going to be worth more money to whoever he plays for than he's ever going
11:15to make.
11:17Right.
11:17Like he, to me, the only reason Aziz Alshair is in this conversation is because the way
11:22we know that D'Amico Ryan feels about his age is probably going to get him.
11:26Yeah, man.
11:27I'm going to tell you, Ron, I am.
11:29I am.
11:29That's the question I would ask to all real quick.
11:31Could you ever believe that draft during the draft and draft night that you thought you feel
11:36this way about Kamari Lester?
11:37No, no, no, no.
11:38Hell, if you remember, Kalen Bullock was the one, like I said, hell with that, Kalen's
11:42the one to watch.
11:43I don't even know if this guy's an outside corner.
11:44And now all of a sudden, he's a top 100 player, top 55 player in the NFL.
11:48And he's talking, we're talking about, no, I, I, look, there's, I mean, the kid's special,
11:53man.
11:54And, and I, I just, for, for anybody out there that again, teach their own, you can fan how
12:00you want to fan, but to anybody out there that when you hear a conversation about not
12:05paying CJ Stroud, if your response is the hell you talking about, you don't know what
12:10the hell you're talking about, then you're not reading the, you know, you're not reading
12:14the, the, the, the, the, the landscape here of what happens when you pay somebody 50 to
12:2060 million dollars, right?
12:23You, you, you just, you, like, to me, if you pay a quarterback 50 to 60 million dollars,
12:27you can forget about Kamari.
12:28You can't pay two corners.
12:29Yeah.
12:3025 to 30 years.
12:31Because you know you got to pay Will.
12:32Well, that's a no-brainer.
12:33Yeah.
12:33Yes.
12:34But I'm saying, you know, like, and it's not just, you got to pay Will, but you got to,
12:38you potentially.
12:39Yeah, I mean.
12:39You got to pay Will the most, the most that a non-quarterback makes.
12:43I'm not, I'm not breaking this defense up and not breaking the defense up starts with the
12:47next one on the list is Kamari Lasseter.
12:49And again, I'm not even counting Will.
12:50Will's a no-brainer.
12:51Will's a, yeah, Will is, Will is the number one player on the list of got to have, got
12:56to sign.
12:57I just, yeah.
12:58Yeah.
12:58They're going to have to make some decisions there.
13:01And that's the wonder is what, what kind of season is there a season out there that CJ
13:06can have to make you say, all right, well, I guess they're going to have to break some
13:10of this up.
13:11Like that.
13:12That's going to be a tough conversation.
13:14That's probably the hope.
13:15Like that's, that's what you would hope that he would be that good.
13:18But you either think you, here's the deal.
13:20You either hope that he's so good that you don't give a damn about the defense or he's
13:26so bad that you say, I don't give them who you give me, who you tell me.
13:30If you let me keep 40 million in cap space and keep his defense good, like you, the, the,
13:35again, boy, the, the 500 record, the so, so play.
13:38That's what you don't want.
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