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00:00Clint, we've got to start here.
00:01The Texans made another move.
00:04They've had themselves a week.
00:05Not only did they trade Titus Howard to Cleveland,
00:09not only did they acquire in a trade David Montgomery,
00:12they also make another move here, Clint,
00:15and they bring back Trent Brown.
00:18Trent Brown on a one-year deal worth up to $7 million,
00:22and he comes back to this team.
00:25Clint, I know you really loved his thought or loved him
00:29as he joined the starting lineup last year
00:32and became a big part of this team.
00:34Me, my question is, what does this mean?
00:36What does this mean?
00:38Like, what is this signing for?
00:40Is this jumping on depth or how?
00:43Like, they obviously have a plan in their mind on how to use him
00:46and how they want to use him.
00:49To me, it is just, what is that plan?
00:51That's the biggest thing to me when you see this.
00:52Well, look, I think the plan is you've got a guy
00:56that you feel really comfortable in a sense of knowing the system.
01:00You've got a guy that you feel really comfortable
01:02in being a more physical presence at that right tackle spot,
01:07and ultimately you've got your answers at the tackle position right now.
01:10At least you're starting answers, right?
01:12I think this means that the Braden Smith,
01:14the kid that's been in the league for a while,
01:18but the guy that's been in Indianapolis his whole year,
01:22a big right tackle that's a free agent this year,
01:26obviously there's been some conversation there.
01:28I doubt that happens.
01:29You know, I would be surprised if the first-round pick
01:33or even a second-round pick is used on a tackle at this point in time.
01:39You know, so I think from a what do they do next,
01:42I think situationally and from a roster construct standpoint,
01:47I think this answers some questions about the tackle position
01:51and kind of how they address it both in the free agent market
01:54as well as the draft this year.
01:58So I think that's that.
02:00And then, you know, I think you look at what –
02:04I think people probably kind of minimized it.
02:07I was – I didn't – we didn't make a big deal of it,
02:09but I was not a fan of, you know, the thought of moving Ariante Urseri
02:13from left tackle to right tackle
02:15and then doing something at the left tackle position.
02:17I thought he played well on the left side over there.
02:20Just let him play the left side.
02:21There's no reason to just flip-flop people just for the hell of it.
02:24You think this move signifies that he's going to be over there?
02:27I think he's going to be on the left side.
02:28Trent Bowne's going to be on the right.
02:29Yeah, I do.
02:30You know, and as I was mentioning before, I didn't – I hated –
02:34I'll use that term.
02:35I hated the idea – I hate the idea even still of replacing multiple
02:40of the four openings you have on the offensive line.
02:43I hate the idea of replacing them with multiple rookies
02:46and now you're starting over with some of the communications
02:49and some of the juice, scrugs, Kenyon, green type situations.
02:52You don't really know what you're getting.
02:54So I like the – you know, I like the veteran presence a lot more
02:58than going with a rookie tackle had they done that.
03:00I didn't like the Ariante Ursary flip,
03:02so this tells me they're probably not going to do that.
03:04As I mentioned, I like Trent Brown.
03:06He knows the offense.
03:08You know, he's not dependent on other moves.
03:13You know, at the center, he doesn't need to have a great communicator
03:16at the center position.
03:17He knows the offense.
03:18He's not dependent on the quarterback.
03:20You know, being this great communicator,
03:21he's got some experience in the system,
03:23so he should be able to operate, you know, independently from other major moves,
03:29even though I'd still love him to make those major moves.
03:31Your right tackle position is in good hands.
03:34And then I think the most important part,
03:36I've said it multiple times last year,
03:38Trent Brown's ability to set the tone from a physical standpoint.
03:43And that's clearly what D'Amico Ryan's and Nick Casario see in him
03:46because he's exactly what they want.
03:47But, again, I know there's weaknesses.
03:49I'm not trying to sell Trent Brown as the best tackle in the game.
03:52I know there's weaknesses.
03:54But there is a huge advantage in the run game as well as in the pass game.
04:00In the run game, if you can move somebody and not just stonewall them,
04:04not just shield them, not just pick them,
04:06but if you can literally move them two or three yards left or right
04:10or down the field, you create a massive void in that defensive front
04:16for a running back to run through.
04:17In pass protection, if when you get your paws on somebody,
04:21you can stop them in their tracks and they can't collapse the pocket,
04:25they can't speed rush you, they can't this or that,
04:28it is a huge advantage for the guard that's playing next to you.
04:31And more importantly, it's a huge advantage for the quarterback that's back there.
04:35Now he's got his right tackle six yards from him instead of being right in his lap.
04:40Now if he wants to drift that way because there's a little bit of push in the middle
04:44or there's a little bit of push from the left side,
04:45now he's got somewhere to push to, he's got somewhere to escape to.
04:48And so when you talk about vision, when you talk about following through,
04:51when you talk about space to operate, pocket movement,
04:54the ability to do that, even if you don't do it all the time,
04:56I'm not saying Trent Brown is Trent Williams,
05:01but when that happens, it just cleans everything up in a major way
05:06for your ball carrier or your quarterback.
05:10And Trent Brown definitely brings that to the table.
05:12And so I'm glad to see them reward him with another year here in Houston.
05:17I think it's a one-year, $7 million deal.
05:18Is that what I read?
05:19That's the most that he can get to, $7 million.
05:23Yeah.
05:23So even that, I would imagine the incentives are playing time incentives.
05:27Yeah, playing time incentives.
05:28So even better.
05:28Even better.
05:29I mean, because the only concern is what we saw this year, I think, Ron, right,
05:32was missed training camp and OTAs and part of the early season because of injury.
05:37And then what happened in the playoffs, you lose him, and all of a sudden, boom,
05:41you're having to juggle your offensive line again.
05:44So I love the thought of there being some incentives for that guy to stay healthy.
05:47And if he's not, you're not going to pay him the money.
05:49So even better.
05:50Yeah, I like the Trent Brown move, Ron, in a big way.
05:53Yeah.
05:55See, Tyler, what he said there scares the hell out of me.
06:00What happened?
06:01And I knew you would like this move.
06:08I think Trent Brown can be a huge asset for this team.
06:12I think he was a huge asset for them last year, even more than I thought he would be.
06:17But if he is kind of what you're saying.
06:20See, to me, this move should not have any bearing on what your plan is for your starting five.
06:28So, like, if you were still thinking Trent Williams or still thinking of getting a left tackle
06:33and moving Ursary to the right side, this move shouldn't help it.
06:37What would scare me with the Texans is if they walked into the season and the thought was,
06:46all right, we just got him.
06:48We got him, Tyler.
06:49We got our right tackle.
06:51Moving on.
06:52Now we got to fill the other spots.
06:54That would – I just don't think this team, with the expectations that it has,
07:01can walk into the season with the plan being Trent Brown is where we're thinking
07:07as our starting right tackle to play 17.
07:10I just – that, like, to me, that is a – that is too much of a risk
07:19because I just don't believe that you can go in and expecting that he can play enough games
07:26to be your starter because what does that mean?
07:28Does that mean Blake Fisher is your now swing tackle?
07:32Does that mean that he is thought to be the starter and you're going in other directions?
07:37I just – I'd like him if I believed that he could go all year.
07:43Like, you know, like you said, this year he played seven games and missed the others due to the knee.
07:48The year before he played four and missed it because of the torn patella tendon.
07:51He'll be 33 now.
07:53He's just had some lower body injuries.
07:56And, like, the situation that he came in last year was huge for the team.
08:01But I just think if you're going to revamp – and now Titus is gone,
08:05which hurts your flexibility to try to be able to do – to make stuff work.
08:09If he were – like, if Titus were still here and you're thinking, all right, he's our plan.
08:13But if he goes down, then we can always kick Titus back out there and we can do –
08:16I don't know that they have that.
08:18I just – I just think right now if you're trying to fix the offensive line,
08:22I think all five of the guys you bring in, you should have the utmost confidence
08:27that they at least have a fair ability to play all 17.
08:32And I just don't know how you can walk into that with Trent Brown thinking.
08:35Yeah, that's the only part I'm going to disagree.
08:37I agree with your – the concerns.
08:39That's the part I'm going to disagree.
08:40There's so many voids up front, four or five.
08:44Three, they've got to replace one which they could upgrade significantly.
08:48I don't think there's any way in hell, Ron, that we can seriously sit here
08:51and expect them to go in there and replace – either upgrade one and replace three
08:55with all guys that have no warts.
08:57Because, like, there's going to be a couple – there's probably going to be another one.
09:01Trent Brown's probably not going to be the only one.
09:02They're going to take a gamble on a guy that's a little bit older,
09:04has maybe been injured, or, you know, a guy that maybe struggles in pass protection
09:09like they did last year, quite frankly with several guys,
09:12but like they did last year with Ed Ingram.
09:13And there's going to be, you know, a gamble.
09:17If they hit on all those spots, I think there's going to be a gamble
09:22on more than just Trent Brown.
09:24So, I agree, those are the concerns.
09:27It's why you're getting him at one year, seven million,
09:29and probably less than that because he's going to miss some games.
09:32There's a reason why you're getting him for what you got him for.
09:36And I think there's so much improvement that has to take place in that O-line room.
09:40I think there's several guys that are going to be like, eh.
09:43Where do you weigh the availability, Ward?
09:46Well, I mean, look, it's up there.
09:48I mean, if we just had an offensive line that was set in stone
09:53and Trent Brown was just the last piece that you plug in,
09:56and it's like I don't know if he's going to be there.
09:58I mean, I just think this is a, for what's out there
10:01and for how many needs you have across the offensive line,
10:04I think this is a huge plus.
10:06So, would you say in 713-5724-610 YouTube and Twitch,
10:10you can jump in on this, would you say you would be more surprised
10:15if Trent Brown was looked at as a depth move as opposed to one of the five?
10:21Like, would you be surprised if you hear –
10:22After last year, yeah.
10:23If you see like, all right, Braden Smith, they bring in
10:26or they bring in a bona fide right tackle that you know is going to be a starter.
10:29You'd be surprised if they brought somebody over Trent Brown.
10:33I would think that the Trent Brown sign, if you're the Texans or Trent Brown,
10:39like I think Trent Brown played well enough to go start somewhere.
10:42I don't think Trent Brown played one of his better years last year.
10:47Even though he didn't play, he was injured early on,
10:49which the first part of that they knew, they signed up for that.
10:52The second part of it is the part that as a Texans fan,
10:55you struggle with a little bit.
10:59Look, I think Trent Brown played well enough for one of 32 teams
11:03to view him as a starting option at a tackle position.
11:06I don't think he came back here to back up
11:08and play behind Braden Smith and Ariante Ursary.
11:11That would be nice.
11:12Hell, I'd love to have that scenario.
11:14I'm not disagreeing with you from that perspective for damn sure.
11:17If they want to go out and draft early a tackle that can absolutely play
11:21or bring in a free agent that's a plug and play ahead of him,
11:25I would have no problem with it.
11:26I don't doubt, Clint, that they are at least kicking around the thought
11:32that Trent Brown is the starter.
11:34I just think that is a heavy, heavy risk.
11:39If they were done, I would agree.
11:40If they were done, I would agree.
11:42I don't think they're done.
11:43I don't think it's leaning on Blake Fisher.
11:46Yeah, I hope the thought is Blake Fisher is the swing.
11:50Even though it would be nice if Blake Fisher could come into his own.
11:52Well, you would want to draft him in the second round,
11:54but I don't know how much coming into his own you think he's going to do.
11:59He's got a lot of sixth offensive lineman reps last year.
12:02Hell, he ought to be getting better.
12:03Yeah, because if it's Trent Brown with Blake Fisher behind it,
12:07that's disappointing to me.
12:10Because I think you're almost assuring Blake Fisher's going to play some games.
12:14Yeah, no, hell, he's going to play, whether it's the fifth lineman
12:17or the sixth lineman, he's going to play.
12:18There ain't no doubt about that.
12:19I don't know.
12:19I think we've got to temper our expectations here, Ron.
12:24I mean, we've talked a lot about it.
12:26I just don't want to.
12:27I don't want to temper.
12:29I'm with you.
12:29I feel like they're doing stuff.
12:31No, look, I want them to go out there and just blow the wad on the offensive line.
12:35I just think we need to temper expectations here of what we're looking.
12:39Like, first of all, I've got to put together a starting five.
12:41Before we start talking about depth, let's confirm a starting five.
12:44Guys that you can for sure get, not guys that you might get
12:47or guys that you're going to decide, hey, I'd rather spend $5,000 instead of $20,
12:51I mean, $5 million instead of $20 million.
12:54Like, get us a starting five,
12:55and then we'll talk about where we can upgrade, how we can improve right now.
13:00I just, I think we need to temper our expectations in that starting five unit.
13:07They've got a long way to go, Ron.
13:08They can do it.
13:09They've got resources all over the place.
13:11I mean, if you're not, if you don't think Trent Brown is a starter right now,
13:13there's still four openings on this offensive line.
13:15I would, like, to me, as the plan, right now of March 5th, yes.
13:20I just, like, I think, I just, I just think you're taking a major risk with his health.
13:27He's not played 11 games, more than 11 games in four years.
13:31You ain't wrong, but I like him being a Texan.
13:34However they decide to move forward, I like him being a Texan.
13:36Yo, I'm fine with him being a Texan, but to be right now, March 5th,
13:39we've got our right tackle.
13:40We've got our tackles.
13:41That would be concerning.
13:42That would be concerning.
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