00:00The first year he was a finalist, down to the final five in a separate category from the main body, the more modern players.
00:08So he and Bill were pitted against three other aged players, you could say, and the max of three, minimum of one.
00:16But it's leaking out before this is announced Thursday night, Curtis.
00:18No Kraft, no Bill. We'll see about those other three players.
00:22There's so many obvious reasons why we mentioned some last segment.
00:26Jerry Jones is in. He's got half the titles.
00:28There's a million things he's done, whether it was fixing the CBA, agreeing with Jeff Saturday as his wife is dying in the hospital,
00:35keeping the Patriots where they are, building a stadium without tax money included, not getting PSLs.
00:41But we just saw in Baltimore the conclusion of the Harbaugh-Lamar Jackson relationship.
00:47Those two have gone to an AFC championship or two, never a Super Bowl.
00:52And before Lamar Jackson turned 30, the relationship had soured to a point where they had to make a decision.
00:58And you look, not to relitigate any of it, just the very differing personalities that are both equally strong,
01:06Bill Belichick and Tom Brady.
01:07And above all else, after 2010, Kraft and Brady negotiated, Kraft worked with Belichick,
01:15and he kept that crew together for another three championships.
01:20And I sit back today and it's like, just don't put owners on the ballot.
01:24Like, I just, I don't, if he's, there is nobody that can explain to me in any way that makes sense
01:30that Robert Kraft should not be in the Hall of Fame.
01:33You know what sucks? He'll probably get in when he's passed.
01:35Which is the worst part. And also, like, I just got to ask the question,
01:38because Tom Brady will be eligible in 2028.
01:41If they're going to, if people are, voters are going to come out now and say
01:44it was the cheating scandal, just like Kraft, are they going to hold Brady out?
01:47I thought that was crazy, but you know what, Courtney?
01:50I don't, I don't think you, I think it's a very logical question that might be right.
01:54They may.
01:55But that, that is, if that's the case, if you go 0 for 3 when it comes to Bill Kraft
02:00and then Brady in 2028, like, shut the Hall of Fame down.
02:03You look like a joke.
02:04Do you think they pitted, like, one against the other?
02:07So, like, Bill cost Kraft some votes this year and Kraft cost Bill votes?
02:11I bet it's the same people.
02:12Because you had to pick one or the other, or they just kept them both off the list?
02:14I mean, Kraft hasn't even been a finalist prior to this year.
02:16Yeah, I'm just saying this year.
02:17But, like, let's.
02:18You had 50 voters that had a list of five.
02:21You know, did they pick neither, one, or how does that work?
02:24So, like, so if Tom Brady and Ty Law retired the same year,
02:27they couldn't both go in together?
02:29Like, it's crazy.
02:30Yeah.
02:30Like, I find the whole thing to be incredibly poorly conducted.
02:38Like, the people that do this, I know Wiggy's been saying this,
02:42you need to have it on TV, put it on NFL Network,
02:44understand what their prerogative is.
02:46Yeah, that's a great idea from Wiggy.
02:47Florio liked that idea yesterday, too, when he joined them.
02:49407 texture.
02:50This is why the Patriots win Super Bowls.
02:52Keep the hate flowing.
02:53Fuel our warriors.
02:55Could be.
02:55Of all the things that people have theorized and wondered about,
03:00there should no longer be any guess as to the lack of objectivity
03:03outside of this region as it pertains to the football team.
03:06Let's go to Jose in Puerto Rico on that subject with Kraft not getting in.
03:09Hey, Jose.
03:11Hi.
03:11Good morning, guys.
03:12Thanks for taking my call.
03:13I'm so disappointed to hear the news this morning.
03:16But, you know, it's one of those things where, yeah,
03:18the whole world hates us.
03:20But I guess it's, like you had mentioned,
03:22it's going to definitely throw fuel on the fire.
03:24I think these players are going to really come out
03:26and really put out on the field a great game,
03:31especially for Kraft because I wouldn't want to play for anybody
03:36or any other organization than the Patriots.
03:39And you can hear it from the players.
03:41Just the other night, Williams said,
03:43oh, I played in Philly, but I hated the Patriots.
03:45But now that I'm here, I can see why it's nice to play here.
03:49So, yeah, thank you, Hall of Fame.
03:52It's going to definitely put fuel on the fire,
03:54and hopefully our boys can do, you know,
03:56what needs to take to win the game this weekend.
03:58That's all I have to say.
03:59I'm really pissed off.
04:00Thank you, Jose.
04:01Good call.
04:01I mean, I don't –
04:03Rabel's going to use this somehow, right?
04:05Well, yeah, and I think when it came to Bill not making it in,
04:07I mean, the players on this Patriots team couldn't care less.
04:10But the fact that it's Robert now and that's their owner
04:13and he's not going to get a nod at the first ballot, like, to me –
04:17I guess his first ballot is a finalist.
04:19This is the 14th year he's been up for it.
04:21Right.
04:22Unreal, unreal.
04:23Right, and if we're saying that they punished Bill for a year –
04:28in his first year of eligibility because of this,
04:30well, then you can't say this was the first time.
04:32They've been punishing him for 13 years.
04:33Right.
04:34Texter points out four decades in the Super Bowl.
04:37They have been in 20% of every Super Bowl ever played.
04:39And you can't use Boomer because Boomer had an interesting take on this
04:43when it came to Bill yesterday.
04:45Like, you can't use that same take when it comes to Robert Kraft not getting in.
04:49Right.
04:50Pats fans, how do you feel about this?
04:51Does it fuel the fire for the team this year?
04:53617-779-7937.
04:55They tell us ourselves.
04:57Oh, Wiggy's going to be hot today.
04:59Wiggy was already fired up yesterday.
05:00Now, here's Goodell.
05:01Roger Goodell had his press conference, State of the League presser.
05:05Yesterday was asked about Bill not getting in,
05:07obviously before the Kraft news.
05:08Here's what the commission said.
05:09Listen, Bill Belichick's record goes without saying.
05:14Same with the Patriots and Robert Kraft, who's also a candidate.
05:18They're spectacular.
05:19They contributed so much to this game.
05:21And I believe they'll be Hall of Famers.
05:24Why does he always sound out of breath?
05:28Isn't it so weird?
05:29Like, he's in good shape.
05:30Very good shape.
05:31I don't, I will say this also, unlike the presidency, you don't age as a commissioner.
05:36No.
05:37Like, he looks exactly the same.
05:38It seemed like he had a cold, though, yesterday.
05:40That was my opinion.
05:41Oh, maybe Greg got him sick.
05:42It's also interesting that Roger spoke yesterday.
05:45Media night was last night.
05:46And then it gets released or leaked this morning about Kraft.
05:49Like, that would have been great to have yesterday.
05:51Do you think Bill and Kraft get in together next year?
05:54Is that, like, the plan?
05:55The reaction now will, you know, spark a big change next year with the voters.
05:59If it's the same voters that they have every year, I think that these people are going to be standby.
06:06Like, I don't think that they're going to, we're not going to find out who these voters are unless they say that they didn't vote for them.
06:11Well, the one guy from the Kansas City Star.
06:12Yes.
06:12He said that he didn't vote.
06:14He didn't vote because he chooses players over the coaches and executives.
06:17They're more important, right?
06:18He's going to have a chance to get in.
06:19He's not going to vote for Andy Reid.
06:20Like, oh, my God.
06:21These people, they tie themselves into pretzels.
06:23They don't like the Patriots.
06:24They hate them.
06:24They hate their fans.
06:25They hate that they have all the success.
06:27They hate that they think they cheat.
06:28All of that.
06:29It's, this is, like, the antithesis of cheating.
06:32They sucked.
06:33They hired the wrong coach.
06:34They owned it, brought in a great coach, had a hell of an offseason, and boom, they're in the Super Bowl.
06:39Maybe Kraft was magnanimous and said, you know what?
06:40I don't want in.
06:41Bill's not in.
06:42Let me wait here.
06:42If we're going to be honest, too, Robert Kraft would have taken the Hall of Fame over a Super Bowl win on Sunday.
06:47Oof, I don't know about that.
06:48Absolutely.
06:48Well, now, if he wins it.
06:50You don't know about that?
06:50If he wins it now, he's going to say something.
06:52I know opinions are hard.
06:53You don't know about that.
06:54So, do you think Robert Kraft would say, I'll lose Sunday if I'm in the Hall of Fame?
06:58Oh, boy.
06:59You really believe that?
07:00He would take the personal game?
07:01I've said it twice.
07:01I can't believe that.
07:03He would take the Super Bowl over the Hall of Fame.
07:05Another Lombardi, the first franchise to seven.
07:08Oh, I think he'd take the Hall of Fame.
07:09Of course.
07:10To pass the Steelers and in the wins department, pass the Niners.
07:13Think back to Dynasty.
07:14Why did he do Dynasty?
07:15Of course he would.
07:16Ah, you take the trophy.
07:18Don't worry about the Hall of Fame later.
07:19Okay, I'm not asking what you would do.
07:20I don't know, Robert, personally.
07:21It's an opinion.
07:22Why are you so afraid to give one?
07:24I'm giving my thoughts.
07:25I think he would take the Lombardi.
07:26Okay, but if you were Robert Kraft, if you believe...
07:27Tom, yes, real life Tom.
07:28Doesn't a Super Bowl without Brady and Bill add so much to his legacy as well?
07:33He's going to get in the Hall of Fame.
07:34He is going...
07:35Everybody on God's green earth, besides these voters, know Kraft is a Hall of Famer.
07:38They're the dumbest people on earth.
07:40We all know Kraft is a Hall of Famer.
07:42He deserves to be in there.
07:43He will eventually get in there at some point in time.
07:46I think a seven Super Bowl, most all time, and getting one without Brady and Bill adds another...
07:52But he hired Brady and Bill.
07:54So those are his ones.
07:55He's able to do it twice, though, once with Brady and Bill, now with Megan and Rabel.
07:59I think that's huge for him to be able to do.
08:00But if winning was related to this, he's double the championships as Jerry Jones, he'd already be in.
08:05It's personal.
08:06There's no way...
08:07Jones is a fraud.
08:08What's that?
08:09Jerry Jones is a fraud.
08:10Well, right.
08:11But I...
08:11The other owners in are Pat Bolin, Dan Rooney, Courtney, Eddie DeBartolo Jr., and Ralph Wilson.
08:17Who is a convicted felon, Eddie DeBartolo Jr., I believe?
08:20They got a lot of things named after DeBartolo out there.
08:23The road, Levi's Stadium's on DeBartolo away.
08:26Oh, I saw Greg posting the pictures last night on Instagram.
08:28Yeah, yeah.
08:29He posted a lot of pictures, almost too many.
08:31Let's go to Coach in New Hampshire.
08:33Good morning, Coach.
08:34Yeah, two points.
08:36First on the Hall of Fame.
08:37I think every voter knows that Brady, Belichick, and Kraft will be in the Hall of Fame.
08:43It's almost like there's this handshake agreement to compromise by saying, but we're not going
08:50to let him in as first ballot Hall of Famers because all of them have some flaws, whether
08:55it's Spygate to Flategate.
08:58Sorry to bring up Florida and massage powers, but I'm just saying that's a possibility.
09:03They all know they're going in, but we're not going to, like, make it too shiny and put them in right away.
09:08And regarding what...
09:09It's 14 years, Coach.
09:1014 years.
09:13What's that?
09:1414 years for Kraft.
09:16Not right away.
09:17It's 14 years that he's been on the ballot.
09:20Oh, okay, okay.
09:21I'm sorry.
09:21Yep.
09:22Then I do believe he should be in, and I don't know if I personally think owners, you know,
09:29should be first ballot Hall of Famers, but he should be a Hall of Famer, so I stand corrected.
09:34And as far as what Brady could have said, I would have, as a longtime Patriot fan, I would
09:39have loved to have him say, oh, I'm definitely rooting for somebody.
09:43But obviously, being affiliated with the Raiders and the Fox Network, I'm not telling you guys.
09:49And then he would have answered us.
09:51We would have known he was rooting for without answering it.
09:54Just your thoughts on that.
09:56All right, Coach.
09:56Good job.
09:57Thank you for the check-in.
09:59It is...
10:00This is going to be a major story now all day.
10:02Probably takes Brady off the hook.
10:04I mean, yeah, for sure.
10:05That's going to overtake Radio Row.
10:07And I wonder if it will be as big of a storyline nationally.
10:11I mean...
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