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WBC Heavyweight Champion Larry Holmes faces Marvis Frazier on NBC Sports Boxing
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00:00B.C. starting at 2.30 Eastern Time.
00:02As you look back two weeks ago and think about that particular bout,
00:06what is next now for Roberto Duran?
00:09Well, next for Duran is a series of junior middleweight fights
00:12where he can go in with Mugabe, with McCallum, with Hutchins.
00:16And I thought the capsule of that fight was that
00:18while Hagler won the fight, Duran won the evening.
00:22All right. So that'll be coming up tomorrow.
00:25Sports World 2.30 Eastern Time.
00:27Right now, let's go upstairs to Dick Enberg.
00:30All right. Thank you, Marv.
00:31Ferdy, in case you're just joining us,
00:33Ray Boom Boom Mancini in a non-title fight
00:35quickly disposed of Johnny Torres, a first-round knockout this evening.
00:39And we're awaiting Marvis Frazier at 200 pounds
00:42against the heavyweight champion Larry Holmes, 2'19 from Las Vegas.
00:47Right now, from Las Vegas, NBC News in New York.
00:51The heavyweight champion risking his title.
00:54Marvis Frazier looks so much physically and facially like his father, Joe Frazier.
00:58NBC lights of Las Vegas, Nevada on this Friday night.
01:02And in headlines in neon, champion Larry Holmes.
01:06He's soon to meet Marvis Frazier, the 23-year-old son of the former heavyweight champion, Joe Frazier.
01:12Larry Holmes is risking his championship tonight.
01:15And when it's all over for him, whether after this evening or years from now,
01:20they'll have no charities, no testimonials for Larry Holmes when he hangs up his gloves.
01:25We take a visit to the home base of the Holmes family, Easton, Pennsylvania.
01:30For the champion, home, as dictated by his profession, is the squared circle,
01:58the ring in which he operates.
02:00But in his personal life, Larry Holmes' home is Easton, Pennsylvania.
02:04Along the Delaware River and the Lehigh Valley, population of less than 30,000.
02:08He has made his home there since age five and now has a wife, Diane, two young children,
02:13a daughter, three, and a son, one.
02:16For many athletes, for many boxers certainly, when their career is over,
02:20when they finally announce their retirement,
02:22they have to go in search of home, in search of their roots.
02:26Larry Holmes knows exactly where that is.
02:31Good afternoon, Holmes Enterprise.
02:36For Larry Holmes, the champion, the transition to Larry Holmes, the man, is well underway.
02:41Aware of the fighter who leaves the ring and can't compete within the hard realities of a dog-eat-dog business world,
02:47Holmes has created his own financial empire.
02:49To replace the championship, he'll eventually leave behind.
02:53The big purses paid for with blood and sweat have been carefully invested,
02:57and many of the dividends are paying off for the city of Easton.
03:01Larry's a very intelligent person.
03:05He seeks professional advice, and then he takes it under advisement.
03:10Sometimes he follows it, sometimes he doesn't.
03:12He makes his own decisions, he makes his own investments,
03:15and he's become quite adept at doing so.
03:19He was a member of a large family, and things weren't too plentiful.
03:25And I think he wanted to establish a bulwark against need, against want.
03:31And I think he's done a very good job.
03:34I think Larry has established himself in Easton and the surrounding area
03:39as a person who's going to be here long after his career as a boxer is completed,
03:44but his career as a businessman will just commence.
03:47He's financially sound.
03:49He's an ambassador for the city.
03:51Every time he goes out, you can always hear Larry saying good things about the city,
03:56and this is an asset for the city.
04:00For Holmes, there's more to life than making a dollar,
04:03and the precious moments spent with family reflect a deep concern for future days,
04:07days with a woman and children he loves.
04:09Tell us about Larry's preparation for you and the family after boxing,
04:16what he has done to make life right after he leaves the ring.
04:21We have a lot of things that we can do once he does retire.
04:25The kids will be in school.
04:26I'll be able to help at the hotel and the store.
04:29The office is going.
04:30No more children?
04:35Don't think so.
04:37We're happy with just two.
04:39We've got a little boy and a little girl.
04:40We're fine with that.
04:42Would you want Larry Jr. to be a boxer someday?
04:45No.
04:45I don't.
04:46See, I worked so hard for him not to be a boxer.
04:48And the hotel, Larry Holmes Enterprise, Larry Holmes Jr. Enterprise,
04:53I named it after him.
04:53It's his hotel.
04:55So these things that he will be able to take over and do when I'm out.
05:00Let's talk about the future after boxing.
05:04Some can't cope with the fact that they're no longer their star.
05:07They're no longer making a million dollars a fight.
05:09No longer people coming up and saying,
05:11Champ, how are you?
05:13That someday you're just going to be Larry Holmes' former champion.
05:16Some will remember and some won't.
05:17How are you going to handle that?
05:19Well, because I accomplished.
05:22And I won't be able to make a million dollars a fight
05:25because I won't be fighting anymore.
05:27And matter of fact, I am set for life.
05:31I can go to the bank and I can get a million dollars whenever I want one.
05:35And a million dollars a year in my tax interest, you know, it's good money.
05:39So how much money we need to live, how much we really want to do.
05:43I'm going to be happy to get in my car and go to the hotel,
05:46to go to the nightclub, go to the office and play big shot, tell people what to do.
05:50That's my thrill.
05:52That's my goal.
05:53Larry's a private person.
05:55And when boxing is gone, his associations are going to even be all the more few.
06:01Is that going to be a problem?
06:02I don't think so.
06:06Because of the hotel.
06:08He'll still be out there, but he just won't be out there as much
06:12because he has the hotel and the people in and out of there.
06:16And with the office, I don't think it's going to bother him.
06:18It'll get to him, you know, when he first retires.
06:22But after that, I think he'll be fine.
06:24Now I'm okay.
06:25Now I can say, hey, see you, America.
06:28See you, boxing.
06:28Y'all have been very good to me to sit back here and watch you on TV.
06:35There's the champion.
06:36It's interesting that Holmes' wife is encouraging, begging him to quit the ring
06:41while many feel that Joe Frazier is pushing Marvis to fight.
06:47The family influence.
06:48And here comes Marvis Frazier.
06:51His 11th professional fight from Philadelphia, Pennsylvania,
06:54trying to follow in the footsteps of his father, Joe, the ex-champion.
06:58Let's go back to ringside.
07:00Marv Albert and Freddie Pacheco.
07:02Thank you, Dick.
07:03And the major question as Marvis Frazier makes his entrance,
07:09will he be overwhelmed by the scene after only 10 professional fights
07:14against a man who was fighting his 17th title defense?
07:21Marvis and Joe Frazier.
07:23Marvis Frazier, 10-0, six knockouts.
07:38His last fight last June won a 10-round decision over Joe Bugner,
07:43the same Joe Bugner who lost to Marvis' dad some 10 years ago.
07:48His previous bout last April, a 10-round decision over James Broad,
07:53the man who knocked out Marvis Frazier in the 1980 Olympic trials.
07:58And here comes the champion, Larry Holmes.
08:01Marvis Frazier, 10-0, six knockouts.
08:15Marvis Frazier, 10-0, six knockouts.
08:19Marvis Frazier, 10-0, six knockouts.
08:23Larry Holmes making his way toward the rink.
08:35His last fight, September 10th, Atlantic City.
08:40Stops Scott Frank at five rounds, preceded by the controversial 12th round split decision
08:46over Chip Witherspoon here in Las Vegas.
08:49Last May, Witherspoon taking away the jab of Larry Holmes.
09:03And one thing you're struck with, Smokin' Joe Frazier has outfitted his son in exactly the
09:09same garment he was wearing on the night of the first Frazier Alley fight Madison Square
09:17Garden.
09:17Kelly Green in gold.
09:26So Larry Holmes and Marvis Frazier are in the ring.
09:32Holmes at 44-0, 31 by knockout.
09:37He won the championship back in June of 78 with a 15-round decision over Ken Norton.
09:43And we're set for the introductions.
09:46Let's go to the ring.
09:47Here's Charcoal.
09:51Ladies and gentlemen, this next event is sanctioned by the Nevada State Athletic Commission, Art Lurie
09:57Chairman.
09:57The referee assigned by the commission, Mills Lane.
10:02This is the main event of the evening.
10:0612 rounds of boxing in the heavyweight division.
10:10Introducing, in the blue corner, fighting out of Philadelphia, Pennsylvania, weighing in at an even 200 pounds.
10:20He has a professional record of 10 wins, no defeats, with six knockouts.
10:25Here is the undefeated, Marvis Frazier.
10:32And in the red corner, from Easton, Pennsylvania, weighing 219 pounds.
10:43He, too, is undefeated in his professional career, with 44 wins, no defeats, 31 knockouts.
10:53He is undefeated, ladies and gentlemen, the WBC heavyweight champion of the world, Larry Hull.
11:01And the referee, Mills Lane, a district attorney for Washington County in nearby Reno.
11:13He's handled 14 world title fights, including Larry Holmes and Jerry Cooney.
11:19Let's get it on, says Mills Lane.
11:32Three knockdown rule in effect.
11:34Standing eight count, as Diane Holmes looks on.
11:38Standing eight count can be utilized by the referee.
11:41Scoring on the 10th point, must handle by the three judges.
11:45And the fighter cannot be saved by the bell, except in the last round.
11:49The referee, the only man who can stop the fight.
11:52Round one.
11:56Marvis Frazier throws the first punch of the fight.
12:01Reportedly, several weeks ago, in training, Holmes did not look good in sparring.
12:13The left jab not working, but he's turned it around, and has looked very sharp recently.
12:17And here's Marvis, letting Holmes take a good look at his head with the hands down.
12:24That could be a big mistake.
12:26Could be a big mistake.
12:27He hasn't got that much experience to do that with an experienced puncher like Larry Holmes.
12:31Oh, there's the left hook of Holmes.
12:41As Marvis is thrown to the lips by Holmes.
12:45Throwing him around like a rag doll because of the disparity of size.
12:49It is actually, Holmes looks huge compared to Frazier.
12:54And Holmes opening up with that left jab and then trying to go to the right hand.
13:00Get a hand forward, get a hand forward.
13:06Holmes looking a lot clearer than he has in previous fights.
13:10There isn't that much fat around his middle.
13:12He's certainly putting in a stiff jab.
13:13And the lunging left was blocked.
13:18And then there's the jab getting in on Frazier.
13:21Frazier so far has not rushed in like Joe Frazier.
13:24He has not rushed in, hooking to the body as he was supposed to.
13:29Maybe a change in plan and strategy to confuse Holmes, but it's not working.
13:35And Joe Frazier has been very quiet to this point in the corner of Marvis Frazier.
13:40And under a minute left, opening round, scheduled for 12.
13:58Oh, right hand and walks Frazier!
14:02Larry Holmes with the short right hand!
14:06And that's what he was waiting for with that left hook.
14:09You'll see the time remaining round one, and here's Holmes going after Frazier.
14:28Frazier's not big enough to tie him up.
14:31He cannot get away from it.
14:32Look out!
14:34Holmes pounding Frazier!
14:36We approach 10 seconds left!
14:41Holmes looking at the referee saying, how much do you want?
14:46And a standing eight count can be given.
14:49Let's see, has he called it?
14:54No indication.
14:56Well, apparently he has.
14:58All right.
14:58He has called it.
15:00Holmes humanely kept looking at the referee saying, you want me to hit this guy more?
15:04And he hit him again, he looked at him, he hit him again.
15:07And finally, Mills Lane stepped in and stopped it.
15:10There was only two seconds left to go, but it was the right thing to do.
15:16First round of knockout for Larry Holmes over Marvis Frazier.
15:22And then, as you mentioned, Frazier just could not tie up Holmes.
15:35He didn't have the size, he didn't have the ring experience to know how to get away from
15:40Holmes.
15:40There was too much time left.
15:42When Holmes is on the attack, he's almost irresistible with his size.
15:45And certainly, with a lack of experience and size, Frazier was not going to get away.
15:5434-year-old Larry Holmes making it 45-0 and 32 by knockout.
16:02Here's the official announcement.
16:18All right.
16:18We're awaiting the official announcement from Chuck Hall.
16:21Here it is.
16:21Ladies and gentlemen, referee Mills Lane stops the bout at 2 minutes, 57 seconds of the first
16:30round.
16:31The winner and still heavyweight champion of the world, Larry Holmes.
16:372 minutes, 57 seconds of round one in a blowout.
16:45Larry Holmes taking out Marvis Frazier.
16:49We'll be back to talk with both fighters in just a moment.
16:59Back in Las Vegas, Marv Albert with the fight, Dr. Ferdy Pacheco and Dick Enberg.
17:03Larry Holmes has just stopped Marvis Frazier at 2.57 of round one.
17:10And Ferdy is in the ring alongside the champion.
17:18Larry, you have just given about everything away that you can.
17:21You threw your trucks in there.
17:22You threw your robe in there.
17:25What does all that mean?
17:26I think that people want to help us in there for one of the greatest fighters of all time.
17:34They show you that I'm the one I'm supposed to be.
17:37I'm right now.
17:38I'm in my prime of my life.
17:40And the kid ain't ready.
17:41And he wasn't ready.
17:43And I'm just glad that I didn't hurt him.
17:44I was banging on him.
17:46I saw you look at the referee.
17:48Every time you hit him a right hand, you looked over like saying, you want more of this.
17:51And then you hit him again and you look at the referee again.
17:53I thought that was very humane of you.
17:55Well, the kid got a long way to go.
17:57Say the kid for another day.
17:59I want to say hi to my mom.
18:01Hi to my daughters, Mr. and Lisa and Melinda.
18:04And I love all of y'all.
18:05And I'll be seeing y'all tomorrow.
18:07I'm getting the hell out of here.
18:08Hey, bro.
18:09Larry, did you think it was going to be this short?
18:11It looked like you were measuring him with the left jab and holding back the right hand.
18:14When you finally threw the right hand, you landed right on the butt.
18:17There's nobody that can do anything with me now.
18:20I'm in the prime of my life.
18:22My weight is nice.
18:23I have 219, 220, 223.
18:25And I don't have to run from nobody anymore.
18:28And I got the power.
18:29I got the jab.
18:31I have the ability to think.
18:32I have the experience.
18:34So why should I have to worry about anybody?
18:37As far as not worrying about anybody, what are your plans for the future?
18:40I know you want another fight.
18:42Hang on.
18:42And it doesn't make any difference to your group.
18:43I'm coming to Miami and hang out with you for a week or so.
18:46That would be nice.
18:47With my family.
18:48And I'm going to sit back and let everything come.
18:51But I don't want to go through this.
18:52I want a good fight.
18:53I don't want to hurt nobody.
18:55You know, I'm doing it because it's business.
19:00And I don't want to hurt nobody.
19:02And I almost did.
19:03No, getting somebody out in the first round doesn't hurt anybody.
19:07It was a good fight.
19:08As a wrap-up, I would say that you have shown that you're still there.
19:12You're still Larry Holmes.
19:14And now we go back to Marv Albert.
19:16NBC is the knockout, Marv.
19:19All right.
19:19The champion, Larry Holmes, who turned pro back in 1973, came on slowly, first working
19:26as a sparring partner for Muhammad Ali and Joe Frazier and maintaining his title with
19:30the victory here this evening.
19:32At Caesars Palace Pavilion, indoors in Las Vegas, Nevada, a night of one-round knockouts.
19:40Earlier, it was Ray Boom Boom Mancini doing it to Johnny Torres.
19:43And moments ago, at 2.57 of round one, Larry Holmes, here's the first knockdown.
19:49Larry Holmes taking out Marvis Frazier.
19:51Well, it's the old adage, when you're not ready, you're not ready.
19:56Joe Frazier thought his son was ready, but you're looking at an undefeated champion.
20:00He measured him.
20:01He put him away.
20:02Boom Boom did the same with his opponent.
20:03You're talking about the top quality of boxing, the aristocracy of boxing.
20:07That's what happens.
20:10All right.
20:10It was a short right hand that caught Frazier.
20:15Holmes was getting in the jab.
20:16There it is.
20:17And Holmes getting in the jab.
20:19Although, Marvis came out with a right hand that had no effect, and then could not do
20:24a thing against Larry Holmes.
20:26I think he tried to show up.
20:28Now, look at the end of this fight.
20:30Holmes is trying.
20:31He's landing punches straight.
20:33Now, look at him.
20:33Look at the referee.
20:34Say, come on.
20:35Stop this.
20:36He looks at him again.
20:37Come on.
20:37Stop this thing.
20:38I don't want to hit him again.
20:39And he hits him right.
20:39There goes the mouthpiece flying out of there.
20:41Now, you have to remember, there's a certain closeness between Larry Holmes and Joe Frazier.
20:46All heavyweight champions feel a certain family feeling.
20:49He doesn't want to do this.
20:51And he's doing it, wants to get it stopped, as he expressed, and get him out of there.
20:55Of course, it was well stopped by Mills.
20:57Link could have been stopped much sooner.
20:59But it is a heavyweight title fight, and you want to give the guy a chance.
21:02There was two seconds left when he stopped it.
21:05Larry Holmes, a sparring partner for Joe Frazier.
21:09And Joe is preparing for a second fight against Muhammad Ali in 1974.
21:14There it is, the look.
21:15As he checks it out with the referee, Mills Lane, and continues to land the right hand against a helpless Marvis Frazier.
21:22I'm almost surprised it happened in Joe Frazier's corner.
21:25And I looked over there, and Joe was just dying.
21:27He was wanting to get up in the ring and stop it.
21:29And something of the old Frazier pride came up, and he didn't.
21:32And I'm sure two seconds more, Joe Frazier would have been flying into the corner because it was pointless at this point.
21:37And it goes to prove you give these kids a chance.
21:40But the old adage in boxing, you've got to pay the price before you go for the championship.
21:44All right.
21:46And Marvis Frazier, in only his 11th professional bout, was pounded out easily in round number one.
21:54And there's Smoke and Joe saying, that's it.
21:58Seven, round one, Larry Holmes over Marvis Frazier.
22:03What is next for Larry Holmes?
22:04I think Larry Holmes really should retire if it was as far as I could see.
22:10However, he is so sharp, and he looks so good.
22:12Of course, this is against a kid who had 10 fights.
22:14But he did look sharp and had no fat on him.
22:17He looked like he wanted to fight.
22:19I think he wants to fight one or two more fights.
22:21It's very possible that he would fight Greg Page and absolutely eliminate any possibility of a stigma in his career that he ducked anybody.
22:28Because Larry Holmes has ducked no one.
22:30And Greg Page is a mandatory title defense.
22:33Now, whether he fights for the WBC or he fights for the IBF, it's immaterial.
22:37He either fights him or Pinklon Thomas.
22:39And if he got past that, I cannot believe that he would leave without unifying the title with Harry Garcia.
22:46Because I think in his heart, he thinks he could wipe out Harry Garcia.
22:49And you wonder what would be next in the career of Marvis Frazier, whether boxing would fit into his future plans.
22:57The feeling was he was not originally interested in boxing, and then perhaps influenced by his dad did become more interesting.
23:06You know, I always get the feeling in boxing, you have to be hungry.
23:08You have to want it desperately more than anything that you've wanted in your life.
23:12You want to have to become a champion.
23:14You can't do it to satisfy somebody else.
23:16You can't do it because you have talent but not desire.
23:18You just have to be hungered and driven.
23:21That's what makes a good writer.
23:23That's what makes a good painter.
23:24That's what makes a good boxer.
23:25And therefore, what I think has happened to Marvis is he's going to have to go home and reevaluate.
23:30Do I really want to do this in order to satisfy my father's desire that I be good, or do I really belong in there?
23:36Tonight, he did not belong with Larry Holmes in this ring.
23:40We were in Atlanta for the Olympic trials back in 1980,
23:44and we both saw a very scary moment when James Broad, in the heavyweight division,
23:49took out Marvis Frazier with a stinking right hand that sent Marvis to the canvas,
23:55and he was unconscious for some time.
23:57And I could relate what I saw here to there, although, obviously, Marvis was shaken up,
24:03but appears to be okay.
24:04But still, at the time, it appeared that people were wondering,
24:08well, will Marvis Frazier continue in a boxing career after he was taken out so easily by Broad?
24:15And it was the same kind of a punch.
24:16It was a straight right hand.
24:17It was a picture-perfect punch.
24:18Here, he got up here, indicating he can take some kind of a punch.
24:22But as we said at the top of the show, the problem is, can he take a heavyweight punch?
24:26The difference in size of these two men, heavyweights now are big men, this day and age.
24:32No longer can you come in at 200 and be a small man,
24:35because you get flung around like a rag doll, like he just did.
24:38And then when you're in trouble, you can't hold on.
24:39You can't grab the big man.
24:41So, therefore, he has to reevaluate his career.
24:44I still don't know, at this moment, whether you can say he can take a punch.
24:48He just got hit a very hard right hand.
24:50But Holmes has put no one out with that right hand in the last three or four or five fights.
24:54So, you've got to figure, hey, let's reevaluate this whole scene.
24:57I'm not big enough.
24:58I haven't got the punch.
24:59And I'm getting punched and getting knocked out.
25:01He really has to do some rethinking.
25:03Oh, he could hang around boxing.
25:05I think the Frazier family is too proud of family to just hang around and kill time in boxing.
25:09So, I think Joe and Marvis have to do some rethinking.
25:12All right, there's a look at Marvis in the dressing room.
25:14We'll have an opportunity to get his thoughts about what happened here tonight
25:17in his quickie performance with Larry Holmes.
25:20That'll be coming up after these words.
25:22It's Vegas, Nevada, Larry Holmes stopping Marvis Frazier in the final seconds of round one.
25:28And Dick Enberg is in the Frazier dressing room alongside both Marvis and Joe.
25:33Let's go to Dick.
25:34All right, Marv.
25:35The Frazier's kind enough to let us impose upon a very tough time.
25:38I guess the most difficult of words of all in this situation,
25:41Larry Holmes entered this locker room to give his best to the Frazier's.
25:45And the comment from the Frazier's has to be, congratulations, champ.
25:49You know how it felt from the positive side.
25:50You were looking for that opportunity.
25:52How do you re-evaluate?
25:53They were asking, do you re-evaluate now, Joe?
25:55Well, the main thing about it, I say he got hit early with a shot and he couldn't survive it.
26:01And Larry went on to do the job.
26:03It's a time that Marvis should have been getting on the shots and then he should have been fired.
26:07I think Larry was wide open, too.
26:09But then he let Larry keep on firing.
26:12Marvis, you came out.
26:13You peekabooed.
26:14He had gloves high.
26:15You even toyed with him a little bit.
26:17Can you refresh us, recall your feelings early in the fight and how he surprised you?
26:22Well, first I give praise to my Lord and Savior, Jesus Christ, for giving me the opportunity to be a witness for him.
26:28Well, I went out and I was slipping to the left, slipping to the right.
26:33And when I slipped back to the left, he caught me with a good shot.
26:35I thought I could recuperate.
26:37But it just wasn't in the Lord's will for me to recuperate.
26:40What was the game plan?
26:41What were you looking for to stretch out 8, 9, 10?
26:43We were looking, let's say, to put a lot of pressure on Larry.
26:46And, you know, I saw that he couldn't hit me with the jab that well.
26:49And I think I started playing a little bit and got caught.
26:51I guess the fact that everyone knew it was the left jab that has kept Larry Holmes with that heavyweight championship belt around him
26:57and was the right hand that eventually was his top weapon.
26:59Did it surprise you at all, Joe?
27:01Well, I would say, yeah, it surprised me.
27:02Larry fired out of the right hand.
27:04And more fired surprised me that Marvis didn't fire when he was bobbing the weave in it
27:09because Larry was wide enough that he didn't hit with shots.
27:11You had said prior to the fight there were a lot of things you saw that Larry Holmes was doing wrong.
27:16Could you share with us now what you wanted Marvis to do?
27:19Well, he did exactly what I wanted him to do.
27:21But when he got in the corner and started bobbing the weave, he didn't fire back.
27:25That's what I wanted him to do because Larry was wide.
27:27All right, where do you go from here, Marvis?
27:28Well, that's up to Pop right now.
27:30I'm going to take a little vacation, go to Los Angeles with my wife.
27:34And it's back to the drawing board.
27:35Some were wondering whether Larry Holmes would retire if he won or lost tonight.
27:40How about you?
27:40Have you thought about giving up the boxing career?
27:42Oh, no, oh, no.
27:44No, this is just one stepping stone.
27:46Hey, I'm only 23.
27:48I think I have a promising career.
27:50We'd mentioned earlier in the telecast what a small world this boxing fraternity is.
27:55Ken Norton was the man that Larry Holmes defeated to win the championship five and a half years ago here in Las Vegas.
28:00Norton visited the stressing room just a few moments ago.
28:04And his advice basically was, hey, everyone loses sooner or later.
28:07It was just a one-round knockout.
28:09You're young and your future still is ahead.
28:10So that's how you feel.
28:11That's the way I feel.
28:13Would you be kind enough to, I know this is going to be painful for you.
28:15Maybe there's some things you don't remember about that first round.
28:18If we replay it again and give us your thoughts.
28:21And, Joe, any insights that you might be able to add as we see the champion, Larry Holmes, perhaps it is very best.
28:28Certainly this isn't the Holmes we were watching in his last two or three defenses.
28:34Well, I didn't get a chance to see very much.
28:36All I see is myself going down.
28:38But I knew I was bobbing and weaving the left jab.
28:41And as I slipped to the left, he caught me with his right.
28:44Right here when he got up, the point of getting back, if he went into the corner, he had a support on the corner.
28:50So all he had to do was fire.
28:52I mean, Larry was wide, so watch the wideness of his shot live from here.
28:56Over there.
28:57A hook should have been right there.
29:00A hook should have been there, bobbing and weaving, all right?
29:02In other words, you're saying he should have fought his way out of the corner.
29:04Fight his way out of the corner.
29:06Right back there.
29:07Right hand, hit him in.
29:08Right there, get back under.
29:09Another little long white hand.
29:11Another long one.
29:11There you go.
29:12A hook should have been fire.
29:13Well, I have to say this.
29:14He did absorb some vicious right hands before the fight was finally stopped.
29:19Well, he was in shape.
29:21There's no doubt about that.
29:22Did Larry Holmes' condition surprise you?
29:24He was as fit as we've seen him in a year.
29:25I thought he was in shape.
29:26He was in good shape.
29:27He knew that he was dealing with one of the masters, so he had to get in shape.
29:32What goes through a man's mind when you see that happening a second time?
29:35Is it hard for you to fathom that that was really you that it happened to?
29:39Well, I knew it was me.
29:40I knew it was me, but it's just a thing.
29:44You know, he caught me with a good shot, and there's always tomorrow.
29:46Well, that's the attitude here in the dressing room of Marvis Frazier, former champion Joe Frazier.
29:52There are better days ahead, gentlemen.
29:53Thank you for being kind enough to share.
29:56They're still ready.
29:57Let's go back out to Marv and Ferdy.
30:00All right, Dick.
30:01And here at ringside, we'll have more boxing coming up from Las Vegas.
30:05A 10-round junior welterweight bout featuring Steve Heron and Lion Frey.
30:10WBC junior welterweight title shot going up against Eduardo Dominguez.
30:14And we'll be back with that.
30:15Marv Albert with the fight.
30:16Dr. Ferdy Pacheco and Dick Enberg.
30:18And now, let's take a look at a bout that took place earlier, scheduled for 10, junior welterweight
30:24Steve Heron, Eduardo Dominguez.
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