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00:00The content of this program is intense and not recommended for minors.
00:04Some details have been changed.
00:07Kim Anderson is an exemplary Jehovah's Witness, pure and with unwavering faith.
00:13Kim believed that only Jehovah's Witnesses knew the truth.
00:18The rest of the world was living a lie.
00:20She obeys the powerful elders of the church, who have absolute authority over the congregation.
00:26Elders should be feared.
00:28It's like playing God with other people's lives, it's dangerous.
00:32If she's not careful, her unwavering obedience will trap her in a self-made hell.
00:38It shouldn't have happened.
00:41I couldn't even imagine it, it was truly awful.
00:58Deadly Cults
01:13The Witness
01:17And as for the woman, God said, your desire will be for your husband, and he will rule over you.
01:23Genesis 3:16
01:25Troops, in position.
01:29The attacker has a sawn-off shotgun.
01:33Where are they? In the room?
01:34The police surrounded the apartment.
01:38He isolated the area.
01:39It's a very difficult situation for the police.
01:41We tried...
01:43Putting a negotiator on the phone to speak with an armed person and...
01:48Step back, are you listening to me?
01:49But this man will not let anyone down.
01:52Hello?
01:53The woman said, "My God, he's going into the room where the children are."
01:57And he dropped the phone.
02:00I screamed, I screamed and screamed.
02:04And I still have nightmares.
02:05Stay by that window.
02:06How could this happen?
02:08There must be a reason.
02:09I turned to my religion, which says that Jehovah must know the reason.
02:19Kim was very attractive.
02:21She was very intelligent, quite composed.
02:24She grew up as a Jehovah's Witness and believed that another life would lead to death.
02:35Barnaby, Canada, is a small town in the heart of the Pacific Northwest.
02:40For generations, it has been home to a close-knit community of Jehovah's Witness families.
02:46like Kim Anderson's.
02:50They thought they were the happiest people in the world.
02:53There were stories of people seeking them out for that reason.
02:57Witnesses emerged in the United States in the 19th century.
03:01It is a Christian denomination, distinguished by its belief in a God called Jehovah.
03:06and an exceptionally rigid moral code.
03:10They believe they are a unique people who have a right to a special place.
03:15They aspire to live in a paradise on Earth.
03:17in peace, harmony, and perfection.
03:19The rest of the world is ruled by the devil.
03:24In the 1960s, Kim was the only child of a devout Jehovah's Witness family.
03:29who was following the path that the church had laid out for her.
03:33She was very idealistic.
03:35She wanted to serve Jehovah.
03:36The truth is on our side.
03:39And serving Jehovah is a very exhausting lifestyle.
03:42Like all witnesses, Kim and her family were required to attend church three times a week.
03:50They spent the rest of their time walking around the neighborhood.
03:53offering Bible studies and pamphlets to unbelievers.
03:57Their door-to-door preaching is very important.
04:00Converting people to join the flock.
04:03Millions of books and magazines are distributed every day around the world.
04:08The witnesses learn that it is their obligation to save the souls of as many people as possible.
04:15It is an urgent mission, due to the fundamental belief that an apocalyptic end times are approaching.
04:24The witnesses believe we are living in the last days of this world.
04:28When the Amar of Edom arrives, everyone will die.
04:32Everyone except Jehovah's Witnesses,
04:35who will be chosen to live in a post-apocalyptic paradise,
04:39purified from all evil and all sins.
04:43It will be like heaven on earth, like a greater Garden of Eden.
04:46Kim firmly believed that all of these things would happen.
04:50The Witnesses long for the end of the world because they consider our world to be spiritually impoverished and deeply corrupt.
04:56Despite the impending apocalypse, eight-year-old Kim was enjoying her childhood at church.
05:03Until she discovers that her parents are separating.
05:05I can't take it anymore.
05:06Don't go away, please.
05:08For the mother, the divorce was even more traumatic.
05:12Jehovah's Witness women who are not married, especially divorced women,
05:17They remain on the fringes of the society of witnesses.
05:21They cease to be part of the congregation's structure.
05:24The only way for a woman to be accepted in the community is by being married.
05:31His mother had lost the respect of the church.
05:34Suddenly, she had been pushed aside.
05:38It was a huge scandal in the congregation.
05:41Her mother suffered a lot.
05:43Kim had many insecurities, but she didn't talk about them much.
05:46She was very reserved.
05:49Kim's faith remained strong.
05:51But seeing her mother suffer the stigma of divorce was something she would never forget.
06:00In April 1972, Kim was a dedicated high school student.
06:06Have you heard the good news?
06:08She spent up to 100 hours a week working as a missionary.
06:11Kim thought it was important to save people.
06:15This meant going door to door and converting them.
06:18Like the other witnesses.
06:21Kim was distancing himself from the secular world.
06:25The elders warn the witnesses to keep their ties with people outside the community to a minimum.
06:31So, Kim didn't have many friends.
06:35She wasn't popular.
06:36Kim would never have the experiences that her schoolmates considered commonplace.
06:42Jehovah's Witnesses are not allowed to vote, nor can they celebrate Christmas or Valentine's Day.
06:47Birthday parties are out of the question.
06:50Do they believe these holidays are based on paganism?
06:53Secular society has corrupted true Christianity.
06:58They have an organization of elders that strictly controls the members.
07:03The Jehovah's Witness sect is full of rules and regulations.
07:08But Kim didn't care about obeying the rules.
07:11And there was a specific one she wanted to accomplish.
07:14To marry a young man from the community who is as devout as she is.
07:18She had a desire to find a strong leader in the community.
07:25She thought Jim would be the ideal man.
07:29The boy is Jim Kostelnick.
07:31Third generation of Jehovah's Witnesses.
07:35Kim met him at a party.
07:37In mid-1972.
07:40She was 18 and Jim was 25.
07:43Young witnesses went out to dance at the dance of the time.
07:47And she just sat there in the corner.
07:50The two started talking.
07:52Do you want to dance with me?
07:53She was very simple.
07:54She had brown hair and spoke with a lot of...
07:58Sweetness.
07:59She possessed a gentleness and a charm.
08:02What attracted me.
08:04My name is Jim.
08:05Jim.
08:05My name is Kim.
08:07After a year of dating.
08:09The church elders approved the marriage of the two.
08:12The wedding day at the Kingdom Hall was magical.
08:17The witnesses really go all out and enjoy the weddings.
08:21Because other celebrations, such as Christmas, are prohibited.
08:25So, weddings are very important.
08:28The young couple's life revolved around their work for the church.
08:32And plans to start a family.
08:34Three years later, Kim gave birth to a boy named Yuri.
08:39And a girl named Lindsay.
08:42Kim was a wonderful mother.
08:44Very devoted to her children.
08:46Some women are meant to be mothers, and others are not.
08:49And she had it.
08:51Lindsay was very blonde.
08:53And her laughter was contagious.
08:55And it was full of life.
08:56Yuri was a true thinker.
08:59His intelligence seemed to be beyond his years.
09:02The family had little money.
09:05Jim worked as a janitor.
09:07While Kim stayed home with the children.
09:10Their world began and ended with the church.
09:13We went to church three times a week.
09:16I used to spend a hundred hours a week preaching from door to door.
09:19In 1974, the couple's evangelization efforts became increasingly fervent.
09:26The end of days is drawing near.
09:30Church leaders said that Jehovah had warned them of the exact year in which the world would finally end.
09:371975
09:38Armageddon would arrive soon.
09:42There would be no more suffering, disease, or death.
09:47Everything would be wonderful and bright.
09:49Jim and Kim eagerly awaited the arrival of the new year.
09:53But 1975 passed and the apocalypse didn't happen.
09:59The world should have ended, but it didn't.
10:02It was a scandal for the church in the eyes of the world.
10:06He has denied us the rapture for now.
10:09And for some witnesses, this triggered a crisis of faith.
10:13One of them was Jim Kostelnik.
10:15They made several different predictions about the end of the world.
10:20It would first arrive in 1800, then in 1914, and then in 1975.
10:28That's what the witnesses sell.
10:30A promise they cannot keep.
10:32If you have any doubts, ask them.
10:36If they're wrong about the date of the end of the world, why do you think they're right about everything else?
10:41Deeply shaken, Jim openly expressed some doubts he had about the church.
10:47I started asking questions.
10:49I spoke with Kim.
10:50She told me to talk to the elders.
10:53And the elders had no answer.
10:56In addition to continuing to go to church, continue preaching from door to door.
11:00That made me furious.
11:03Kim was devastated by Jim's loss of faith.
11:06Her faith was stronger than ever.
11:08She knew that Jim's problematic behavior could have dangerous consequences for her marriage and her reputation in the church.
11:16People who question the effectiveness of the beliefs suffer penalties, or even expulsion or excommunication from the organization.
11:28If your family members are witnesses, you could lose your family.
11:33Kim was afraid to contradict the elders.
11:36She believed she had to testify to preserve her life and the lives of her children.
11:41Kim was still traumatized by what happened to her mother, a divorcee whom the church condemned.
11:46But the time has come to make a painful decision.
11:50And what she would have to do would have unbelievably cruel consequences for everyone she loved.
11:59It is dangerous to give your power to people who claim to speak for God.
12:04She felt afraid all the time.
12:07They had nowhere to hide.
12:08In 1976, Jehovah's Witnesses worldwide, including Jim and Kim Kostanik, were surprised to still be alive.
12:19Church leaders prophesied that this year would never come, that the world would end first.
12:26Everyone in the world, except Jehovah's Witnesses, would die at Armageddon.
12:31We expected this to happen in 1975, but it didn't.
12:36But church leaders claimed that the apocalypse was yet to come, and that the members were somehow to blame for the delay.
12:44The Lord found us poor in spirit.
12:47In the meetings, the church leaders said that it was our fault.
12:51It's as if they're blaming the recruits.
12:54And that disappointed me a lot.
12:55Now, Jim has openly threatened to leave the church, a radical step that could destroy the family's reputation in the community.
13:05For Kim, her husband's explicit doubts created a kind of apocalypse.
13:10It's a huge betrayal.
13:12You learn that this is frightening and it's like making contact with the devil.
13:16Kim wasn't just sad because she truly had faith.
13:20But because she wanted her husband to be a strong leader of the witnesses.
13:26And she realized it wasn't working.
13:30Kim requested a meeting with the elders, known as the Judicial Committee.
13:35so that they could guide her on the right path.
13:38They advised that it was better for her to be a single mother than to raise children with an unbeliever.
13:45Kim never questioned the authority of the elders.
13:48But everyone should fear the elders because of the harsh consequences and intolerance they show towards transgressions.
13:55After six years of marriage to Jim Kostelnig,
13:58Kim filed for divorce.
14:01Jehovah's Witnesses expelled Jim.
14:06Being expelled has several consequences.
14:09And the most serious of these is ostracism.
14:12The church decided to ostracize Jim.
14:18So, Kim and the children should cut all ties with him.
14:23Hey, we'll see each other soon, okay?
14:26Jim left his family.
14:29I felt like a traitor.
14:31I felt like I wasn't doing the right thing.
14:34But I had no other choice because she just wanted to move on to the next phase of her life.
14:41When the divorce was finalized in April 1980,
14:47Kim became a single woman in a congregation that looked down on her.
14:52What happened to her mother was now happening to her.
14:55It was her worst nightmare coming true.
14:58Kim, I, and others were left on the sidelines.
15:01We were treated like second-class citizens.
15:05Kim's friends avoided her.
15:07During meetings, people ignored her.
15:10In the hierarchy of witnesses, even a 10-year-old boy, if baptized, is superior to a woman.
15:16Women should be submissive.
15:18She really was nothing more than a woman.
15:22Kim knew there was only one way to restore her reputation in the community.
15:26She then began searching for a husband among the witnesses.
15:30I think that was her goal.
15:32To find a better spiritual leader than me for her and the children.
15:38Just one month after the divorce,
15:41Kim went to a church-sponsored retreat in Maui.
15:45She was determined to find a husband.
15:50Was there a place for Jehovah's Witnesses?
15:53I think it belonged to a couple who were witnesses.
15:55The morning after his arrival,
15:58Kim was introduced to a man from Texas.
16:01His name was Jeff Anderson.
16:05He was polite, respectful,
16:08He was always tidy,
16:10He was about 1.82m tall.
16:13Jeff told her that he lived in Hawaii.
16:15and he worked as a disc jockey.
16:17And like most people at the resort,
16:19The two had something important in common.
16:22He claimed to be a reliable witness.
16:27Interest arose.
16:29Since they were not married,
16:30The church disapproved of them being alone together.
16:33The organization of elders controls the activities.
16:37and the involvement of congregations.
16:41So, for one week,
16:43Kim and Jeff enjoyed a supervised courtship.
16:45A couple who are friends of Kim's accompanied them.
16:49They travelled around the island and...
16:51He kind of courted her.
16:53On Kim's last day of vacation,
16:55Jeff confessed that he was in love with her.
16:58Kim was radiant.
17:00I had a lot of fun today.
17:02When she returned from Hawaii,
17:04She told me about Jeff.
17:06He was a witness.
17:07He was going to work at a radio station.
17:09and would have a good life.
17:11He always flattered her.
17:14He would send her flowers, letters, and call her.
17:18I just wanted to ask you a question.
17:20So, in January 1981,
17:23Jeff proposed to her over the phone.
17:26And Kim accepted.
17:27Yes.
17:28It was a very recent romance,
17:30But they were excited to start a new life.
17:32and to create a devout family together in the church.
17:36She desperately wanted love.
17:38Marry a good elder among the witnesses.
17:40and to have the perfect life that I thought I deserved.
17:46They set the wedding date.
17:48in August 1981, in Houston, Texas,
17:51where Jeff's mother lived.
17:53It seemed like a dream come true.
17:55when Kim packed her children's bags
17:57and traveled south for his big day.
18:02I remember my mother at the wedding party.
18:06They had godparents, godmothers, and elegant dresses.
18:09But when the wedding day arrived,
18:12Everything started to go wrong.
18:13He's just late.
18:15There must be a reason.
18:19Jeff arrived late to his own wedding.
18:21And he even forgot the wedding rings.
18:25Are you well?
18:26I am.
18:27Why do you ask?
18:29Because he's an hour late.
18:31I'm here, aren't I?
18:32When Kim questioned him,
18:33He surprised everyone by yelling at her,
18:36with ferocity.
18:37Don't make a fool of yourself.
18:39Oh, okay.
18:41People saw that he was not a good example of a man.
18:46My mother could recognize aggressive men.
18:49She believed he was very aggressive.
18:51People criticized Jeff a lot.
18:55She felt insecure.
18:57But I said she was mature enough.
18:59to decide what was best for her.
19:02Without the alliances,
19:04Kim and Jeff exchanged vows.
19:06The marriage started off tumultuous.
19:09But Kim was determined to be a faithful wife.
19:11and to regain his reputation in the church he loved.
19:14One week after the wedding,
19:18Jeff revealed the truth.
19:19He lied to her the whole time.
19:22He had been arrested for theft.
19:25He never had a steady job.
19:27He wasn't a DJ living in Hawaii.
19:30He was unemployed and living in Houston with his mother.
19:34Jeff had assumed a certain persona
19:37which was completely false
19:39with the goal of finding a wife.
19:43I thought this guy was an idiot from the start.
19:48Kim was shocked.
19:49and he became even more annoyed when he found out
19:51that despite Jeff being baptized as a Jehovah's Witness,
19:55He was not a devout follower.
19:56which he said was during the procession.
19:59I want to go door to door.
20:00Again.
20:01Jeff Anderson could pass for a credible witness.
20:04No.
20:05Because he knew the jargon used by Jehovah's Witnesses.
20:09But I think he wasn't very fond of religion.
20:12I think it was a relationship of convenience.
20:15The association with witnesses...
20:17I'm trying to figure it out, love.
20:19I want them to be happy with me.
20:21Jeff promised to bring his family to Canada after the wedding.
20:24But I didn't have enough money.
20:27I am not a liar.
20:28Instead, Jeff, Kim, and their two children,
20:30Yuri and Lindsay moved into a small apartment.
20:33in the Houston area.
20:35This is my home.
20:36She was very frustrated.
20:38Jeff did not contribute financially.
20:43That was not the life he had promised Kim.
20:45But as an obedient witness,
20:47She should respect the new patriarch of the family.
20:50You're right.
20:51You're right.
20:52Then, the situation started to go from bad to worse.
20:57Jeff ruled the house with an iron fist.
21:00criticizing Kim's shopping and household chores,
21:03demanding to know where she was the whole time.
21:06And this cruel domination over her became physical.
21:09No, please.
21:10When Kim rejected Jeff's sexual advances,
21:14He harassed her.
21:16Jeff was very violent.
21:18When I was having sex with her,
21:20He was trying to rape her.
21:22She was afraid of him.
21:23I think I was terrified.
21:25To maintain control over Kim,
21:27Jeff threatened to go to the church elders if she resisted.
21:30Kim knew that, in their eyes and in the eyes of Jehovah,
21:34She would be disobedient.
21:36There is a kind of implicit rule.
21:39of which Jehovah's Witness women
21:41They should fulfill their duty.
21:43In other words, the sexual obligation to husbands.
21:46Women should be sexually submissive to their husbands.
21:51AND...
21:51Everything is fine.
21:54Kim kept her fear and anxiety to herself.
21:57But just three weeks after the wedding,
22:00His daughter Lindsay was on the phone with her father.
22:02and said something that shocked him.
22:06Mom and Jeff had a fight and hurt each other.
22:09She let it slip,
22:11who saw Kim and Jeff having a physical fight
22:13which left them both with bleeding faces.
22:16When we talked to Kim about it,
22:18she said,
22:19Oh no, it was just an accident.
22:20We were opening boxes and...
22:23We have a headbutt.
22:24I believed.
22:25For Kim, going to the police was not an option.
22:29Not even reporting the incident to the church.
22:33If you speak to the elders, the man is the boss.
22:36If a man tells you how to dress, you obey.
22:38If you're told how to sit, you obey.
22:40If it is said that when you are eating at the table, you obey.
22:43If you don't obey, it's...
22:44undisciplined.
22:45In my experience,
22:48Women in abusive relationships tend not to complain.
22:53Furthermore, the church would not approve.
22:56the request for a second divorce.
22:59If the elders do not believe they have grounds for divorce,
23:02There is no other choice.
23:04Feeling helpless,
23:06Kim tried to be the best wife she could be.
23:09The family spent another month struggling financially.
23:12Until Kim started to suspect something.
23:15that no mother could ignore.
23:18Kim suspected that Jeff Anderson
23:20molested at least one of the children.
23:24Kim wasn't sure of the extent of the abuse.
23:27But I had a terrible feeling.
23:31Clearly, something was very wrong.
23:35I think she knew, but she didn't have the courage to say it.
23:39Kim didn't know who to turn to.
23:40All she knew was that she didn't want to stand idly by.
23:44while their innocent children were in danger.
23:50So, just six months after the wedding,
23:54Kim managed to get a loan to return to Canada with her children.
23:58I remember Kim and the kids staying at our house.
24:01I only remember that I loved Yuri and Lindsay's company.
24:04And the joy and beauty of those children.
24:08Desperate for understanding,
24:12Kim went straight to the church elders.
24:16Did he lie?
24:18He said he was a devout witness?
24:20She explained that Jeff had deceived her.
24:23Continue.
24:24She described the fights, the violent sex...
24:26He forced me...
24:29Yes.
24:30AND...
24:31And the suspicion of child abuse.
24:33Perhaps.
24:33She asked the elders to support her decision to end the marriage.
24:37That guy wasn't good for her.
24:40She tried to make them understand, to keep them informed, to convince them to pay more attention to her problems with her husband.
24:48But the elders were not convinced.
24:51They said Kim had no concrete proof that Jeff was abusing the children.
24:56And that perhaps the problem was her.
24:58And not Jeff.
25:00You've already been divorced once.
25:03We talked about it.
25:04They thought she was either disloyal or very stubborn.
25:10Strive to make your marriage work and be an obedient and faithful wife.
25:16The elders told Kim that she was obligated to make the marriage work.
25:21Kim was beaten.
25:23She clung to the life she wanted to have with all her might.
25:27If Kim defied the elders, they would expel her and distance her from the church and her family.
25:34It was terrifying.
25:37Kim grew up as a witness.
25:39It was the only thing he knew, and he believed that any other life would lead to death.
25:43Despite her intuition that she should protect her husband's family...
25:48Of course.
25:49Kim relinquished the authority of the elders.
25:51You know what's best.
25:53She invited Jeff to come live with her in Canada.
25:57Deep down, she wished he would just leave and leave her alone.
26:01But outwardly, she had to show the elders that she had agreed to remain married.
26:06Kim was trapped by her desire to belong to the community.
26:10In September 1982, the elders at Kim Anderson's church instructed her to meet with her abusive husband, Jeff, and try to make their marriage work.
26:21She believed she had no choice but to obey orders.
26:25She had to fulfill what the elders expected of her as a married woman.
26:31But when Jeff moved to Canada to live with Kim and the children, it didn't take long for him to pick up where he left off.
26:39Where are my cigarettes?
26:39I made a simple request, just one request.
26:42And you can't remember.
26:44Look, that's inconsiderate.
26:47He couldn't hold down a job.
26:50He was violent and unpredictable.
26:51And to Kim's horror, she was certain that he was molesting their daughter Lindsay again.
26:58He was sick, perverse, disgusting.
27:01Many of us can't even imagine such cruelty.
27:05You're right.
27:05She had to somehow accept it and act as if she were resigned to it.
27:09But at the same time, she knew she didn't want anything more to do with her second husband.
27:14In July 1984, Kim was constantly afraid.
27:19She felt many fears.
27:20Fear of Jeff, fear of the elders, fear of the future.
27:24This time, Kim's fears resulted in a desperate act.
27:29She decided to appeal to the elders again, with a final plea for permission to divorce.
27:35The elders interviewed Jeff and Kim separately.
27:40Kim presented new evidence of Jeff's harassment, praying that this time they wouldn't ignore her allegations.
27:49She was always very willful and disobedient.
27:54She makes up stories.
27:55But when the interviews ended, Kim received devastating news.
28:02Bearing false witness against a member of the congregation is a serious matter.
28:07He defeated her at the meeting with the elders.
28:10Not only did the elders reject Kim's request for a divorce,
28:14They also punished her for making more false accusations against Jeff and for not being an obedient wife.
28:21She was sad because the elders didn't believe her, they only believed Jeff.
28:28On her way home, Kim faced the truth.
28:32She was powerless within the rigid confines of the religion she loved.
28:37She was in a dead end, trapped between the Jehovah's Witness authorities.
28:42and what was good for her and the children.
28:45For the first time, Kim questioned those who claimed to speak for Jehovah.
28:50Elders are just people, and they make mistakes.
28:54She could see those flaws clearly.
28:58For the sake of her children, Kim felt she had no choice but to risk everything she knew.
29:03and leave her husband as soon as possible.
29:07So, on July 21, 1984, Kim planned an escape.
29:13She waited for him to arrive home from work.
29:15She waited for him to go into the shower.
29:17While Jeff was in the bathroom, Kim grabbed the children and put the plan into action.
29:23Kim?
29:24Kim?
29:26She got in the car and drove to my house.
29:28Kim?
29:29Jeff didn't know where she was.
29:33You planned this from the beginning, didn't you?
29:35Jeff wouldn't accept her abandoning him.
29:37Furious and thirsting for revenge, he told the elders that she had run away.
29:45She ran away.
29:47Some people don't know how to deal with rejection, and their reaction is revenge.
29:52The church demanded that Kim return to her husband, but she resisted.
29:58Jeff was shocked by her rebelliousness.
30:01He used Kim's devotion to control her, but it no longer worked.
30:07The control over her, which was essential for him, having that control, was disappearing.
30:12In mid-1984, Kim returned to the apartment and Jeff left.
30:21But he wasn't willing to leave her alone.
30:24He rented the apartment in a basement across the street and was always around.
30:31He was stalking her, watching her.
30:33He would send notes, probably love notes.
30:36This terrified her.
30:38Basically, if I can't have you, nobody can.
30:41Jeff called day and night, demanding a reconciliation.
30:46With the church supporting his mission to win back his wife,
30:49Jeff believed that Jehovah was on his side.
30:53She rejected him, and he couldn't accept that.
30:58He felt anger, fear, jealousy, and a desire for revenge.
31:02He couldn't handle it well.
31:05The situation kept getting worse.
31:07Jeff started breaking into Kim's house.
31:09He was unplugging her appliances.
31:13They were dirty tricks to show that he was around, to continue bothering her.
31:19Jeff seemed out of control.
31:21Kim lived in constant terror, knowing that her family was in danger in their own home.
31:26Yuri and Lindsay were caught in the crossfire.
31:31And it was very, very difficult for them to endure that.
31:35To feel that destructive atmosphere.
31:38Kim changed the locks and prayed.
31:41If Jeff were to reappear, his actions would be unpredictable.
31:44Some people can't handle rejection, but not everyone resorts to that type of violence.
31:53A person would have to be troubled or very ill to do that.
31:56In 1985, devout Jehovah's Witness Kim Anderson was terrified of her abusive husband, Jeff.
32:10He had to have power and control.
32:12He couldn't stand rejection.
32:14He kept following her.
32:15Since the church did not recognize the seriousness of the situation, Kim decided to act alone.
32:22She convinced Jeff to leave the house and changed the locks.
32:26But I was afraid to ask for help.
32:28Kim was very careful about what she said.
32:30As if she were afraid of something.
32:33And I felt that fear.
32:39August 29th was a hot summer day.
32:42Kim was on the phone with her mother.
32:44The morning had been pleasant so far.
32:46And Kim felt at peace for the first time in a long time.
32:52It was so quiet that they forgot to lock the front door.
32:58Jeff entered Kim's kitchen.
33:02He went in.
33:02Kim was there.
33:03The children were in the room.
33:06Before Kim could react.
33:08We need to talk.
33:09She was looking at the barrel of a shotgun.
33:11Mom, I have to go.
33:15There's a gun to my head.
33:17Some people have said something like that.
33:19There's a gun pointed at me.
33:20I can't talk anymore.
33:21Where are they?
33:22In the bedroom?
33:23Kim's mother was still on the other end of the line.
33:27Confused and desperate, she called the police.
33:30She said he had a gun.
33:32The police immediately sprang into action.
33:35Within minutes, a rescue negotiator from the local police called Kim's apartment.
33:41Hello?
33:42It is very difficult for the police to neutralize the situation so that things don't get worse.
33:48Troops, in position.
33:49We were preparing to contain the area.
33:52While Kim was trying to explain the situation, she saw Jeff heading towards Yuri and Lindsay.
33:59Please run.
33:59He is in the room.
34:00She said, "Oh my God, he's going into the room where the children are."
34:07Do as I tell you.
34:09We tried to persuade him.
34:11If it was a fight between him and his wife, the negotiator would at least try to rescue the children.
34:17Then, he would try to get the individual to surrender.
34:20Please come.
34:20Kim managed to distract Jeff with the phone call so that he would move away from the children.
34:25They want to talk to you.
34:27Hello?
34:30Tell them to back off.
34:32Jeff threatened to kill everyone if the police tried to interfere.
34:36I'm serious.
34:37Tell them to back off.
34:38Are you listening to me?
34:39And then, at 11:16 AM, the call dropped.
34:44The police now surrounded the building.
34:47We can't just go in.
34:48We must analyze the dangers to protect the people who are in the house.
34:53You never loved me.
34:54He said he loved me, but he never did.
34:56According to later police records about the incident, the entire family was in a back room.
35:03And Jeff yelled at Kim, complaining about all the pain she had caused.
35:07For an hour, he reprimanded her and verbally tortured her.
35:12I can't believe he did this to me.
35:14Why did you reject me?
35:16Why can't we get back together?
35:18Kim tried to take the blame for the end of the marriage.
35:21You are right.
35:22As his wife, I should have listened to the elders.
35:26I should have listened to you.
35:27Give me a hug.
35:28But when Jeff asked her to hug him, she didn't have the courage.
35:34Suddenly, something changed in Jeff.
35:37He pointed the gun at her.
35:40And to the children's horror, he fired.
35:43Killing her on the spot.
35:46Ten-year-old Lindsay was hugging a teddy bear.
35:49Jeff pointed the gun at her.
35:51She raised her hands defensively toward the rifle.
36:00And he shot Lindsay.
36:03Yuri hugged his sister.
36:07And he was shot too.
36:11In an instant, three lives were brutally and cruelly cut short.
36:16I, I can't imagine the horror the children felt in those last seconds.
36:23They were such good friends, such close companions.
36:26They loved each other very much.
36:29And she died in her brother's arms.
36:32It's still unbearable to imagine.
36:36And I still have nightmares.
36:39Jeff left the gun in the apartment.
36:41And he calmly walked out the front door.
36:44He was immediately arrested.
36:47When the police entered the apartment, they found a scene of indescribable horror.
36:53There are no words to explain how the police feel when murder involves children.
36:59And he told the police officers that he wished he had turned the gun on himself.
37:05A police officer was given a moving task.
37:10Tell Jim that his children were murdered.
37:13Mr. Kostelnik?
37:15An undercover police officer came to my house.
37:19He took a printed sheet of paper out of his pocket and read it.
37:23But he was trembling so much that the letter almost fell from his hands.
37:29I thought that...
37:31I didn't want to listen, but I had to.
37:34A warning that my children have been murdered.
37:38The greatest fear of any parent.
37:40For sure.
37:42I didn't think it was true.
37:44It must have been some kind of mistake.
37:47The police must have made a mistake.
37:52The entire community was devastated by the tragic murders.
37:55I wish I had been there to stop the shooting.
38:00That was all I could think about.
38:03Seeing Jeff with the gun made me want to throw myself in front of him and take it from him.
38:09I was thinking...
38:10I know he's bigger than me and I wouldn't have been able to stop him.
38:14How was that possible?
38:17Those beautiful children...
38:19They were playing with my children, the laughter and...
38:23I couldn't understand.
38:27For Jim Kostelnick...
38:28Who has long questioned the doctrine of Jehovah's Witnesses...
38:32The church's response to the murder of his ex-wife and children was shocking.
38:38All they said was that Kim, Yuri, and Lindsay would be rewarded after Armageddon.
38:43They would be resurrected on that day.
38:46And they would live happily ever after in the kingdom of Christ.
38:51Jim went to his children's wake at the Kingdom Hall...
38:54In an effort to share my grief with old friends...
38:57And the family in the community of witnesses.
39:00But even on such a sad day, everyone ignored Jim during the wake.
39:05It was as if I were invisible, because I was no longer part of the community.
39:09They did this in the house of God.
39:11On December 4, 1986, a jury declared Jeff Anderson...
39:18Guilty on all three counts of first-degree murder.
39:21He was sentenced to life imprisonment for each charge.
39:24But Jeff Anderson still had unfinished business with Kim and her family.
39:28Less than a year after his sentencing, he sent a letter from prison to Jim Kostelnick.
39:33I looked at the letter, saw his handwriting, and thought...
39:38This is the hand that killed my children.
39:41Should I read this letter?
39:43I showed it to Marge, my wife, and she looked at me like I was crazy.
39:48Are you really going to read this?
39:50I said, it must be an apology, right?
39:53It can only be that.
39:55So I opened it.
39:56Desperate for answers, Jim began corresponding with Jeff.
40:02Jim was still trying to find some goodness in the killer.
40:08How do we deal with this?
40:09How can I not go crazy?
40:11I think we succeeded because we got involved.
40:14We asked questions.
40:16We moved on because...
40:18If I stop, despair might drag me to the bottom of a well.
40:25So I think every family of a murder victim deals with it differently.
40:30My motivation was to seek the truth.
40:33What happened?
40:34Why did it happen?
40:35This gave me strength for years.
40:37In April 1989, Jim Kostelnick agreed to meet Anderson in prison.
40:43He was willing to speak with Jeff Anderson.
40:47And to try to understand how and why this happened.
40:50He thought it would be a positive thing.
40:53He was nice.
40:55A typically Texan education.
40:58It wasn't the monster I expected to find.
41:01He tried to explain to me why he did that.
41:05He said, I was filled with hatred.
41:07I felt rejected.
41:09I took it out on Kim and her beliefs.
41:13For Jim, the tense 45-minute meeting ended in a bizarre and emotionally confusing atmosphere.
41:20At the end of the meeting, he said, "I just want to say that I have the best victims in the world."
41:26Jeff even agreed to television interviews.
41:29And he insisted on the morbid idea that he had been wronged.
41:32He couldn't see anything beyond himself and his own feelings.
41:58Jeff was incapable of putting himself in someone else's shoes.
42:03He spent too much time with witnesses to believe that he should control his wife and children.
42:10That he almost had the right to do something stupid and bad.
42:15Many of us can't even imagine such cruelty.
42:19That's selfishness.
42:20Cruelty.
42:21It's egocentrism.
42:22That all defined it.
42:24He was a sociopath.
42:25Kim and Yuri Lentzi's friends and family tried to cope.
42:32But even after decades, the wounds are still open.
42:37How many years have passed, and who actually paid?
42:42The real price, you know?
42:45And what has changed?
42:47I wanted to forgive him.
42:48I thought forgiveness would make things better.
42:51But of course, it hasn't improved.
42:53It's something you never get over.
42:56I could still be angry at the elders for manipulating Kim and Jeff...
43:01And they tried to make them witnesses, despite everything that was happening.
43:05Anger is a heavy burden to carry.
43:09I usually get over it, but...
43:11That was too much...
43:13Wrong.
43:14And there
43:26And there
43:27And there
43:28And there
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