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00:00This episode of The Saints is about a young man named Carlo Acutis, who died in 2006, at the age of 15, and who was just declared a saint of the Roman Catholic Church.
00:28When we planned and shot the episode, Carlo's official canonization had yet to happen.
00:34The ceremony was supposed to take place in the spring of 2025, but it was postponed due to the death of Pope Francis and the election of Pope Leo.
00:44But long before Carlo was canonized, he was a renowned and beloved figure.
00:51Hundreds of thousands of people have made the pilgrimage to the site of his remains in Assisi.
00:57In many ways, the life of the so-called influencer saint wasn't so unusual.
01:06There was just one key difference.
01:10He believed, and he lived his belief, right to the end.
01:18Now, the story of St. Carlo Acutis.
01:25It's just too late for a boy your age.
01:40I wish I could go.
01:42When you're older. Give me a kiss.
01:46But I'm not tired.
01:48Merry Christmas, my son.
01:49Merry Christmas, Dad.
01:51Sleep well.
01:54Merry Christmas to you, Bertha.
01:56Merry Christmas to you, Sarah.
01:58Carlo Acutis was born in 1991 to a family in Milan.
02:03When he was young, he had a nanny from Poland named Beata Sperczynska, who played an important role in his life.
02:14Hey.
02:16You don't need to go to midnight mass in the big famous cathedral to celebrate Christmas.
02:21But they get two.
02:24If you weren't taking care of me, you would go too, right?
02:28Yes.
02:29But I'm celebrating Christmas now.
02:31With you.
02:33And I'm feeling it within my heart.
02:36What do you imagine it is to celebrate Christmas?
02:51To celebrate the birthday of Jesus Christ?
02:54Yes.
02:55Why are you laughing at me?
02:57I'm not laughing at you, Malutki.
03:00Maybe you're right.
03:03Maybe it is a great birthday celebration.
03:08Is there a party somewhere?
03:10Maybe they go to a midnight mass because there is a party.
03:14No.
03:15It's more than just a party.
03:17It's worship.
03:18You know?
03:19Which means we devote ourselves to giving thanks for the birth of Jesus Christ.
03:27The birth of forgiveness.
03:30Redemption.
03:32And the greatest love.
03:34What is redemption?
03:37Being forgiven by God.
03:40Washed clean within your heart.
03:44To know that you will be redeemed from all sins when you accept Jesus into your heart.
03:51To know that anything can be forgiven by God.
03:54That's the gift that God gave us with Jesus.
03:57Weren't the greatest and the purest of his creatures.
04:01The one without sin.
04:03Mary.
04:04Yes, of course.
04:06Our beloved.
04:07Tonight was the birth of her son.
04:10And it was the birth of God's love into this earth.
04:14Wherever we are, whatever we are doing, we can still pray to the Blessed Virgin and to God for giving us this gift.
04:26Ceremonies are beautiful.
04:28But we don't need them.
04:29What is sin?
04:31What is sin?
04:33What is sin?
04:34What is sin?
04:37Sorry.
04:38I'm sorry.
04:39Sorry.
04:40What did I say?
04:41Malutki.
04:42What can I say to you?
04:46Sin is...
04:47You're scared of sin?
04:48No.
04:49There's just so much of it in this world.
04:52And within all of us, I suppose.
04:55That's why I pray to God.
04:56Every day, throughout the day.
04:57Sometimes I see you with beads on your fingers.
04:58And you're singing.
04:59Yes.
05:00I'm chanting.
05:01Is that praying?
05:02Yes, my God.
05:03No.
05:04No.
05:05No.
05:06No.
05:07No.
05:08No.
05:09No.
05:10No.
05:11No.
05:12No.
05:13No.
05:14No.
05:15No.
05:16No.
05:17No.
05:18No.
05:19No.
05:20No.
05:21No.
05:22No.
05:23No.
05:25Is that praying?
05:27Yes, Malutki.
05:28It is.
05:29Will you do it now?
05:30With me?
05:33Yes, I will.
05:38Give me a hand.
05:42Uh, like as a young woman.
05:45Yes, Oh, like.
05:48Moja perełko
05:54Lula i ulubione
06:01My pieścitełko
06:15Amen, malutki
06:183
06:33Po zauwa
06:36Po zauwa
06:39Po zauwa
06:43He was born into a world that was becoming more and more secularized.
06:58And Carlo's parents weren't particularly devout.
07:03So what was it that sparked his faith?
07:18He asked his parents if he could receive his first communion at the age of seven.
07:27I want to be born with Jesus for all time, my whole life.
07:33I'm not going to say yes because it's too much, that's why.
07:37After Beata left, Carlo had a new au pair, a Hindu man of the Brahmin caste named Rajesh Mohar.
07:55Like many of the other adults around him, Rajesh was immediately moved by Carlo's faith.
08:02No, no, listen to me.
08:03It's not questionable.
08:06A single bulldozer arrived this morning.
08:09They literally pulled at the rubble with their bare hands.
08:12Six people known to be trapped in this building.
08:14There are ten others like it.
08:16As they mourn the loss of one they had freed, his wife was being cared for.
08:20Heaven and earth are full of your glory.
08:24Hosanna in the highest.
08:27Blessed is he who comes in the name of the Lord.
08:31Hosanna in the highest.
08:35Through Jesus Christ, your Son, our Lord.
08:41In many ways, he lived the same kind of life as other kids.
08:59Hosanna in the highest.
09:01Hosanna in the highest.
09:03Hosanna in the highest.
09:05Hosanna in the highest.
09:07Hosanna in the highest.
09:08Hosanna in the highest.
09:09Hosanna in the highest.
09:10Hosanna in the highest.
09:11Hosanna in the highest.
09:12Hosanna in the highest.
09:13Hosanna in the highest.
09:14Hosanna in the highest.
09:15Hosanna in the highest.
09:16Hosanna in the highest.
09:17Hosanna in the highest.
09:18Hosanna in the highest.
09:20Hosanna in the highest.
09:22Hosanna in the highest.
09:24Hosanna in the highest.
09:26Yeah, dude, this is...
09:28Whoa!
09:29Yeah, I know.
09:30Hello!
09:31Stop with this noise!
09:32I want to sleep!
09:34Sorry.
09:35Don't worry!
09:36Sorry, we are...
09:38Bye! Sorry, Grandpa!
09:39Sorry! Run!
09:41Assaults!
09:42Sorry!
09:46And like many teenagers, he became obsessively focused on one thing.
09:56Ta-da!
10:05Yeah? You like it?
10:08Yeah.
10:10You can click...
10:11Unlike many teenagers, Carlo never discarded his faith out of embarrassment.
10:17He went deeper.
10:19I'll fix it, don't worry. Bye!
10:41Bye!
10:42Bye!
10:43Bye!
10:44Bye!
10:45Bye!
10:46Ciao!
10:48Ciao.
10:54Carlo and his family spent their summers in Assisi.
11:02The home of St. Francis and St. Chiara.
11:07It was the place he loved most in the world.
11:13I have something for you.
11:18I'm jogging your ass for me.
11:23Good boy.
11:28Good boy.
11:30Good boy.
11:31Good boy.
11:33Good boy.
11:35Good boy.
11:37Good boy.
11:39Good boy.
11:41Good boy.
11:43Good boy.
11:45Good boy.
11:47Good boy.
11:49Good boy.
11:51Good boy.
11:53Good boy.
11:55Good boy.
11:57Good boy.
11:59Good boy.
12:00God bless you.
12:01God bless you.
12:02God bless you.
12:04Good boy.
12:06Good boy.
12:07Good boy.
12:08Good boy.
12:09Good boy.
12:10Good boy.
12:11Good boy.
12:12Good boy.
12:13Good boy.
12:14Good boy.
12:15Good boy.
12:16Good boy.
12:17Good boy.
12:18Good boy.
12:19Good boy.
12:20Good boy.
12:22Excuse me, Mr. Okutis.
12:26Did you have something you wanted to contribute?
12:28Any spending?
12:30The origins of the unification?
12:34Um..
12:35Garibaldi?
12:35Garibaldi?
12:36Garibaldi?
12:38Very wild guess.
12:41Oh, thank you.
12:43Okay, quiet down. From the beginning.
12:45Sorry.
12:46Books out. Page 13, please.
12:49Good morning, princess.
12:51Page 13, please.
13:00It was a crazy night.
13:03She's the guilty party.
13:05The one who led me into a night of...
13:08What did the chaplain call it last week?
13:13What was that word?
13:15Ribaldry.
13:15Yeah, it was a night of ribaldry.
13:19It wasn't the chaplain.
13:21It was the friar from Brothers of the Sacred Heart
13:23who picked up the food we collected
13:25for the feast day of St. Buonaventura.
13:27Why was the priest talking about ribaldry?
13:30Who knows?
13:30Friar. It was the friar.
13:36He looked terrible.
13:38Yeah, I feel like shit.
13:41So, did you feel her up?
13:44Man, I fucked her, right?
13:47And she was so into it
13:49and it was so worth it.
13:51Was it?
13:55Sure.
13:56Why?
14:00How?
14:03Man, what do you want from me?
14:06It was fun, right?
14:09Good.
14:10Yeah.
14:11What?
14:13Everybody had a blast.
14:14Did they?
14:15Okay.
14:17What are you, my mother?
14:19No, I'm your friend, of course.
14:20But you're disciplining me.
14:22No, I'm not.
14:22Yeah, looking down on me.
14:23No, I'm not, okay.
14:24Yeah, you are.
14:25What?
14:26Do you want to give me a time out?
14:28You're judging us.
14:30I'm not, okay?
14:31Look, you might not like to go to parties and stuff like that,
14:35but you can get down on other people who do it.
14:37Yeah, I'm not getting down on you.
14:41I want to apologize.
14:45Don't do that to yourself.
14:46That's all.
14:47Well, okay.
14:49Should they say thank you?
14:50I don't want you to say anything.
14:54Take care of yourself.
15:15The body of Christ.
15:18Transubstantiation.
15:19The bells.
15:21The body of Christ.
15:23The moment when time stops.
15:26The body of Christ.
15:27When the bread and the wine
15:29become the body and blood of Christ.
15:37Carlos started creating a website
15:39that compiled the stories of every Eucharistic miracle.
15:44It became his life's work.
15:49One story after another.
16:10The miracles made possible by the Eucharist.
16:14The real life's work.
16:43...
16:51...
16:57...
17:03...
17:07...
17:11I've been meaning to speak to you the brothers and I have noticed that you're exhausted which
17:28obviously concerns me I must ask how much sleep you are getting not much father but enough but
17:40enough for what to work on my website I won't have told you about yes and I found that your website
17:50remarkable yes the animation isn't finished yet I was just sent a packet of information on several
17:56more miracles but the Earth Alliance asked me to help them for the website they're trying to launch
18:04and slow down my work they need my help Carlo what about your schoolwork after this work is finished I
18:18I don't know will it be finished I mean there's lines yes but you see these things are what I
18:30must do but so is your schoolwork I've been told that you missed an oral presentation in Latin did I
18:40and then you come here the crack of dawn every morning of the school week yes father you're
18:47right it's sorry Carlo and you are so tired yeah of course I come to mass father I have a calling
18:56yes yes you have told me but to be a priest we have to study no I have a calling I have a calling now
19:07I have no choice I need to follow it I have to go or I'll be late for class it's okay
19:16thank you
19:19thank you
19:20thank you
19:22thank you
19:23thank you
19:24thank you
19:25thank you
19:26thank you
19:28thank you
19:30thank you
19:32thank you
19:34thank you
19:35thank you
19:36thank you
19:38thank you
19:40thank you
19:42thank you
19:43thank you
19:44thank you
19:45thank you
19:45thank you
19:45thank you
19:46Please, look at what it's there.
19:51Let's go.
19:52What's this?
19:54Let's go.
19:55Let's go.
20:16Is that Santa Chiara?
20:44Yeah.
20:46Her bones are in the crypt, but she's here with us.
21:04Lord, we recall the memory of Santa Chiara the Virgin.
21:09Through her merits and following her example, may we be strengthened in our hope and charity.
21:15As we await the glorious resurrection and the eternal communion with you.
21:20Amen.
21:21Amen.
21:22Good boy.
21:30Good boy.
21:31Good boy.
21:32Oscar.
21:33Oscar, come, come.
21:35Who are these statues?
21:36He's Leone.
21:38And who's the one standing?
21:40And who's the one standing?
21:42Ginebra.
21:43He's looking at the stars.
21:47And who's this guy?
21:49St. Francis.
22:00St. Francis.
22:02I love to listen to the wind
22:27Carlo
22:28What?
22:32It's like sailing across the universe I feel like an old man I feel like a newborn baby
22:58Yeah
22:59Oh
23:12Carlo, can I speak to you for a minute?
23:36Of course you can speak to me
23:40I think I'm finding myself so sad
23:51And I don't know why
23:55Actually I do know why
23:59I just don't understand
24:01I went to a party with Sofia and Ana Maria, the new girl
24:07And I know you never go to these parties
24:11No, I don't
24:13You disapprove
24:15No, I just don't go
24:18Well, I went
24:21And
24:22I was talking to this boy
24:25And I liked him
24:28And I went to an upstairs bathroom with him
24:34And we
24:37He
24:40Okay
24:42Okay
24:42You've told me
24:45With what you can't say or won't say
24:47That's okay
24:48Yes
24:50Was he
24:54Was he kind to you after?
24:58Sort of
24:59Yes
24:59But then he
25:03Just left
25:04Not so kind
25:07I suppose not
25:10Are you
25:16Worried about being pregnant?
25:19No
25:19No, that's not it
25:21I'm not
25:25Worried
25:26I'm not
25:27Angry
25:29I'm not
25:29Depressed
25:30I'm
25:31I'm not anything that I can name
25:34What am I asking for?
25:40I don't know
25:41I can see this harms your soul
25:45It haunts you
25:47I've committed a sin
25:51Haven't I?
25:54We are all sinners
26:00I guess that
26:02Lots of people
26:03Find me
26:03Different
26:04Because I have faith
26:07But
26:11I'm not going to absolve you
26:16I should go to confession
26:21Yeah
26:22But don't stop there
26:24Let that be the beginning
26:27The beginning of what?
26:30Of coming to understand
26:32That only you can care for your soul
26:34It's precious
26:36You should visit Assisi
26:44It's my favorite place
26:46You should go there
26:47Hello
26:49You've really never had a girlfriend yourself
26:52Have you?
26:53Chiara
26:53There is only one woman in my life
26:57We can talk anytime you want
27:07Okay?
27:08Thank you
27:09Bye
27:10I'm not going to be the only one woman in my life
27:12I'm not going to be the only woman in my life
27:13I'm not going to be the only woman in my life
27:14I'm not going to be the only woman in my life
27:15I'm not going to be the only woman in my life
27:16I'm not going to be the only woman in my life
27:17I'm not going to be the only woman in my life
27:18I'm not going to be the only woman in my life
27:19I'm not going to be the only woman in my life
27:20I'm not going to be the only woman in my life
27:21I'm not going to be the only woman in my life
27:22I'm not going to be the only woman in my life
27:23I'm not going to be the only woman in my life
27:24I'm not going to be the only woman in my life
27:25I'm not going to be the only woman in my life
27:26I don't know.
27:56Time
28:22When life is being lived, time is elastic, it stretches and contracts, it flows and jumps.
28:52No, no, no, no, no.
29:22In the name of the Father, of the Son, and of the Holy Spirit, Amen.
29:35In the name of the Father, of the Son, and of the Holy Spirit,
29:52in the Holy Spirit,
30:11How do we return our debts as we return our debtors?
30:18And not be in temptation, but be free from evil.
30:25Amen.
30:30Carlo!
30:31Carlo!
30:32Carlo!
30:33What's happening?
30:34Andrea!
30:35Carlo!
30:36Please help me!
30:37Hey, hey, hey, hey!
30:38Bring him to the bed.
30:40Come on, Carlo.
30:41Yes, yes.
30:42Come here.
30:43Hey, we're here.
30:44Come here, come here.
30:45Be careful, please.
30:46Go to the ambulance.
30:47Carlo, talk to me.
30:48Oi.
30:49Talk to me, Carlo.
30:50What's going on?
30:51Yes.
30:52Yes.
30:53Yes.
30:54Tell them that they offer my spring to the world.
31:01What are you saying, Melanie?
31:02Yes.
31:03I need an ambulance.
31:04We have a young boy here.
31:05No, no, no, no, Mike.
31:06He's still awake.
31:07He's used his feet.
31:08He's very hard.
31:09Stay with us.
31:10He's here.
31:11Yes, yes.
31:12Please.
31:13Please get me out, please.
31:15Please.
31:16Yes, yes, I'm here.
31:18I can.
31:19Come on, come on, come on.
31:20Come on, yes.
31:21Yes, please.
31:22Talk to me.
31:23Carlo.
31:24Carlo, stay with me.
31:25Stay with me.
31:26Carlo, please.
31:27Please.
31:28Come on.
31:29Acute promyelocytic leukemia.
31:32More treatable now, but not in 2006.
31:39I'm feeling good.
31:45He looks better, doesn't he?
31:46The pain is excruciating, and he never says a word.
31:58He always asks about the rest of us.
31:59He's a very special kind of boy, this one of yours.
32:06You're really kind.
32:08You're really kind.
32:24You're really kind.
32:28You're really kind.
32:41May God bless you with the help of the Holy Spirit.
32:49Pax Domini sit cum Tibi et cum Spiritus Sancti. Amen.
32:58The body of Christ.
33:06Amen.
33:28Amen.
33:30Amen.
33:32Santa Maria, Madre di Dio, prega per noi peccatori.
33:35Adesso nel nostro amore.
33:37Amen.
33:40Siobhan, Madre di Dio.
33:42Capitul, per noi peccatori.
33:45Mai, wasp licitato?
33:47Ho Pai, è l'aporto di Dio.
33:51Ho Pai, è l'aporto di Dio.
33:57And then, time becomes irrelevant.
34:10It ends.
34:27And then, time becomes irrelevant.
34:57Time becomes irrelevant.
35:27Time becomes irrelevant.
35:54In his very short life, Carlo Acutis touched people.
36:02He helped them to better their lives.
36:06He comforted some.
36:08Maybe inspired others.
36:10And he did so through the ether of the internet.
36:15He picked up a tool, mastered it, and used it for good.
36:26There was a youth movement in his image.
36:33There was a push for beatification.
36:37And there were claims and miracles.
36:42Years after his burial, Carlo was exhumed.
36:45His face was recreated as a silicone mask.
36:50And his body was put on display behind glass in the place he loved most, Assisi.
36:59The process has formed.
37:05In 2012, Carlo was declared a servant of God.
37:10In 2018, Pope Francis declared him venerable, meaning he had lived a life of heroic virtue, knowing
37:20that his days on earth would come to an early end.
37:23In 2020, he was beatified.
37:31And on September 7th, 2025, he was canonized.
37:37He is now, St. Carlo Acutis.
37:44He is now, St. Carlo Acutis.
37:52The Influencer Saint, they call me.
37:57My friends and I would have laughed at that.
38:02What a wondrous thing to have lived a life.
38:07What a blessing to have breathed the air.
38:11To have walked the hills and the streets.
38:15To have shared my days with other souls.
38:21Each one precious.
38:34I'm always with you.
38:38And I'm always watching over you.
38:48It's almost unheard of for someone to be canonized as quickly as Carlo Acutis, who died at such a young age with his whole life ahead of him.
38:55But he represents something very special.
38:58A young man who is recognizably a part of our world, who we can believe in.
39:04In the years before social media hit the world like a tidal wave, he used the tools of the internet to actually help people, many of whom he'd never met.
39:15To put it simply, St. Carlo was a force for good in this world.
39:22And his presence is bringing a whole new generation back in touch with their faith.
39:27It's very important for young people in the modern world to understand that a person of today can be a saint.
39:44This boy was 15 when he died, tragically.
39:47You talk to younger people, they think of saints.
39:50They think of Galilee.
39:51They think of, you know, St. Patrick.
39:53They think of people way distant past.
39:55But here, what was really interesting is to make someone from a very young generation and say, look, this can be a model.
40:05This can be something that we could aspire to.
40:08Well, I think Carlo Acutis is an amazing saint.
40:11And we have to remember that young saints are not a novelty, right?
40:14We have St. Aloysius Gonzaga, who died at age 23.
40:17Joan of Arc was very young.
40:19And there's clearly a real devotion to Carlo Acutis.
40:22And it does show, as you were saying, Marty, that you can be holy at a young age.
40:26And one of the things I love—
40:27With the internet and with the craziness in the world and the way it's going, this is what's so important about the lesson of Carlo.
40:33Yeah.
40:34And Carl Reiner, the Jesuit theologian, said that the saints show us what it means to be Christian in this particular way, right?
40:40And Carlo shows us what it means to be a millennial saint, so-called.
40:44But one of the things that amazes me and really delights me is the amount of attention and attraction and appeal that he has, right, among young people.
40:52So something's going on, and they see in him someone whom they can emulate, right?
40:57Yeah.
40:58Someone who was online, someone who did gaming, someone who had websites.
41:00Yeah, yeah, yeah.
41:01And you don't have to be an old man in a monastery to be holy or to be a saint.
41:05Fast canonizations make me nervous.
41:07You rush to judgment.
41:09At the same time, like, when is the right moment?
41:11Joan of Arc had to wait until the 20th century.
41:13Yes, exactly.
41:14What's known about him is probably what's going to be known about him.
41:18So the usual hesitation that we've got to wait and see how all this plays out doesn't apply in the same way.
41:24I think, in general, it's better to wait, right, to let the person's life kind of settle down and us to get perspective.
41:30But there's a great devotion to Carlo who is obviously extremely holy.
41:34When I think about the timing, I think about that.
41:36If God wants these things to happen fast, they happen fast.
41:39God is presented to him from very early on.
41:42Beata presents Christmas in a whole new way to him.
41:46That's interesting.
41:47He's not out with the family.
41:48They're not out at the party.
41:50We can have Christmas right here.
41:52Then his family decides to summer in Assisi.
41:55What better way to present holiness to a person who's still being formed to be in that town?
42:00It's magnetic.
42:01In a way, that's the rationale for canonizing him so soon, because it's through his story that now God is being presented to others,
42:09and holiness is being presented to a lot of young people.
42:11We're seeing it now.
42:12I think he's drawing other people to people like Francis of Assisi.
42:16The millions of young people in the past couple of years that have gone to see his tomb are going to see Francis and Claire as well.
42:22That's right.
42:23So he's introducing people, as he did in life, to the saints.
42:26He lies down by that statue of Saint Francis like he's basking in the love of this great saint.
42:36I was very moved by, say, the love with which he spoke to the girl.
42:42She's instantly ashamed.
42:44He's speaking with care.
42:46And then at the end, when the same girl, after his death, goes and sort of curls up,
42:52I thought those two images of his faith as showing this freedom, but also coming there because he taught her to.
43:01He taught her that.
43:03That's right.
43:04Carlo's attachment to the Eucharist, the whole idea of receiving the Eucharist,
43:08it gives you a spiritual strength, and that emanates with you for quite a while.
43:14There's a question, you know, why was he so obsessed with Eucharistic miracles?
43:18I'm like, because he felt transformed by the Eucharist.
43:23I loved what he said.
43:25When we take the Eucharist, we become a home.
43:28So the rallying point is always the Eucharist.
43:31It's always that getting to the Eucharist, receiving the Eucharist.
43:34That's why it's always interesting to me, so many very religious people existed towards the end of their lives only on the Eucharist.
43:40That's right.
43:41So a Eucharistic miracle would be a miracle that's associated with the Eucharist, which is the host that we believe as Catholics becomes Jesus's body,
43:48and also the wine becomes Jesus's blood.
43:50There are miracles that happen with the host, but there are also miracles that happen around adoration and people's veneration of the Eucharist.
43:57And he had a website, which is kind of his own 21st century devotion in a sense, his way of kind of spreading the good news about this.
44:06And I think it's hard for us to see someone who's 15 year old and suffering, but there's also someone who has, you know, gone through a very adult, you know, as it were, experience, right?
44:16So he's not just this kind of sort of fun-loving teenager, he's also someone who's suffered.
44:21And I think that's an important part of his whole life.
44:23I think we need to see him in the totality of his life, not just this kind of cool guy, but someone who's really, you know, had a tragic end.
44:31One of the images I love is that God raises up saints.
44:34You know, when we needed a saint like Francis of Assisi, God raised up Francis of Assisi.
44:38When we needed a saint like Carlo Cutis, God raises this person up, you know, for all.
44:43So I find it very powerful that God has given us this example and really given youth this example in particular.
44:49Amen.
45:01Amen.
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