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00:00.
00:16Hello.
00:18Hey.
00:20Hello, everybody.
00:21Hello up there.
00:22Yes.
00:23Hello to you.
00:24Hello over there.
00:25Very good.
00:26Good evening, everyone.
00:28You are so welcome to the show.
00:30I tell you, we have got some big stars for you tonight.
00:34I'm actually a bit nervous.
00:35I'm sweating like Alan Carr on Celebrity Traitors.
00:38And that's sweating.
00:40But hey, look who's singing for us later.
00:43It's the fabulous Robbie Williams.
00:47Yeah.
00:48He'll be performing his new single, Pretty Face.
00:51And plenty of pretty faces on my sofa tonight.
00:54First up, this music icon has sold over 100 million records
00:58since her hit song, Conga, made her a global star.
01:01And she's kept the world on their feet ever since.
01:04Now celebrating 50 years of music with a new album, Rises,
01:07it's the queen of Latin pop, Gloria Esteban!
01:13There she is!
01:15Oh!
01:16So lovely to see you!
01:18Hello!
01:19Hello!
01:20Hello!
01:21Hello!
01:22Esteban, everybody!
01:23Hey!
01:24Hey!
01:25There you go!
01:26Hello!
01:27This double Oscar nominee mastered crime solving in Sherlock,
01:31a code breaking in the invitation game,
01:33and the madness of the multiverse in Doctor Strange.
01:36Now, he brings us a moving portrayal of grief in The Thing
01:39with feathers.
01:40It's Benedict Cumberbatch!
01:42Yay!
01:45Oh!
01:46Hi!
01:47Nice to be here!
01:48Well, welcome, welcome, welcome.
01:49This Irish man was Oscar nominated for his heartbreaking role
01:55in The Banshees of Inish Aaron,
01:57and early this year won a Golden Globe for his starting
02:00performance in The Penguin.
02:02Now, in Ballad of a Small Player,
02:04he plays a gambling addict in The Bright Lights of Macau.
02:07It's Colin Farrell!
02:09Yeah!
02:10I'm not lying!
02:11Colin Farrell!
02:12Hello!
02:13You!
02:14Hi!
02:15There you go!
02:16Come on, man!
02:17And she's lit up the big screen in countless hits like
02:22Pretty Woman, My Best Friend's Wedding, Notting Hill, Ocean's Eleven,
02:26and her Oscar winning performance as Erin Brockovich.
02:27Now, she's wowing critics with her latest role in controversial
02:29campus drama, After the Hunt.
02:30It is a warm welcome back to Julia Roberts!
02:31There you go!
02:32Have a seat!
02:33Have a seat, everybody!
02:34Aw!
02:35It's a welcome back to everyone.
02:36Julia, second time on the show.
02:37Hi!
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02:59I'm back to everyone.
03:00Julia, second time on the show.
03:01Hello.
03:02Second time.
03:03Second time.
03:04Who do you know on the couch this time?
03:05Anybody?
03:06I know Colin, and I know Benedict, and I know you, and I am in awe of Miss Estespace.
03:11Oh, good Lord.
03:12I'm in awe of all of them.
03:17And actually, you worked with Benedict.
03:19We did, yeah.
03:20Yes, August Osage County.
03:22Yes, you did.
03:23And were you with Wimbledon together as well?
03:25Well...
03:26Julia was sat next to me.
03:27OK, which I thought, oh, great, I'm between my husband and Benedict.
03:32This is going to be great.
03:33But we were in a very special seating...
03:36In the royal box, you could say.
03:37We were in the royal box, which I was very excited about
03:40until I realised, well, until Benedict pointed out to me
03:46that I gasp every time the ball is struck.
03:53It was like a scene out of a pretty woman.
03:55It was amazing.
03:56And she was like, oh!
03:59It's impossible to be quiet in a scenario.
04:03It's so exciting.
04:05But Benedict had his tie and he was like, and he said, Julia.
04:09And it's like, they hit the ball, they go, oh!
04:11They hit the ball, he's like, Julia, really?
04:14It's going to happen all day.
04:15It's going to happen a lot today.
04:18If they're lucky.
04:19One big scream and get an idiot.
04:22And Gloria Estevan back, back, back again.
04:25I'm so happy to be here.
04:26It's always so much fun.
04:28You've got a new album, Racist, which we'll talk about later in the show.
04:32But this is unbelievable.
04:34You have been in show business for 50 years.
04:38Yes!
04:38I joined the band in 1975.
04:42It was the Miami Latin Boys.
04:43And then when I stuck around, we changed the name to Miami Sound Machine.
04:47It's a, I can't believe it.
04:48And I'm shocked.
04:49But you know what I can't believe is, I can't believe it is 40 years since we all first heard this.
04:55And I'm glad you knew that, Colin, because Latin beats are important to you.
05:12Yeah.
05:13You know, because Miami Vice...
05:14There's a queue I'm supposed to, yes.
05:15Miami Vice.
05:16There's a bit of salsa in Miami Vice.
05:17We're not talking chips.
05:18Yeah, we saw you doing a bit of moving in Miami Vice.
05:19Here you are now.
05:20Oh, no.
05:21Gloria.
05:22All right.
05:23I want to see the hips.
05:24I want to see the hips.
05:25...they never cut to your feet.
05:43Wow!
05:45But no, you're really doing it.
05:48You're really doing it.
05:49I cannot remember that scene.
05:51LAUGHTER
05:52You took Miami Vice too seriously.
05:55Yeah, the mojitos were good.
05:5848 hours later, I mean, they were consequential.
06:02Yes, cut to.
06:03That must have been very strange when you went to the premiere of Miami Vice
06:06and you must have been big suede of it you didn't recall.
06:09Two-thirds of the film, man.
06:11Wow.
06:12I was like, don't tell me what's going to happen next.
06:14LAUGHTER
06:15Yeah.
06:16But like, Julia, tennis.
06:18No spoiler alerts.
06:20Hey, listen, tonight we've got three very different movies to talk about.
06:24The first is a fabulous and timely drama starring Julia Roberts.
06:28It's called After the Hunt.
06:30It opens on the 17th of October, that's next Friday,
06:32and it is the latest from Luca Guadagnino.
06:36Guadagnino.
06:37Guadagnino.
06:38I've been practising all week and still fucked it up.
06:40LAUGHTER
06:42Guadagnino.
06:43He made Call Me By Your Name and Challengers lots for the films
06:46and I was telling you backstage, I love this film.
06:48It's such a big moral mess.
06:51So, tell us what you can about it, who you are and what is going on
06:54around you.
06:55I play a philosophy professor at Yale.
07:00And my colleague and sort of best friend is another philosophy professor
07:07played by Andrew Garfield.
07:09And my prize student is played magnificently by Iowa Debre.
07:16And near the beginning of the movie, there she is, I throw a party
07:22that this picture is from.
07:23My husband and I, Michael Stuhlbarg, plays my husband.
07:26A Freudian analysis guy.
07:29Yeah.
07:30And we have this party and the next day she comes to tell me that they
07:35walked home together and something inappropriate happened.
07:38So, it's who's telling the truth.
07:41There's lots of fallout from that.
07:43Yeah.
07:44Among other things.
07:45And we were saying it's one of those things where you think it's
07:48just going to be about the sexual politics of that, but it's about
07:51all sorts of, it's about young, old, gay, straight, men, women,
07:54it's all in there.
07:55Pills, whiskey, lots of things.
07:57There was a lot of whiskey.
07:58Yeah.
07:59I wish I drank whiskey watching that film.
08:00Yeah.
08:01It's lovely.
08:02You still can.
08:03I feel I've left it too late.
08:05Hey, I tell you what, we've got a clip.
08:07And this is you confronting student Maggie, played by Iowa debris.
08:12Here we go.
08:13I don't feel comfortable having this conversation with you anymore.
08:17Not everything is supposed to make you comfortable, Maggie.
08:20Not everything is supposed to be a lukewarm bath for you to sink into
08:25until you fall asleep and drown.
08:28And there are no rewards in death for suffering as much as fucking
08:32possible in life.
08:34You've constructed a life that hides your accidental privilege,
08:41neediness, desperate desire to impress.
08:44At least I have the self-respect to be obvious about what it is
08:47that I want.
08:48But you, it's all lies.
08:51Ooh.
08:53And when you, when you've been at screenings of this movie,
08:58I mean, it must be that afterwards.
09:00Like, everyone must have an opinion.
09:02There's lots to talk about after this.
09:04Yeah.
09:05That's the best bit, is people seem to have really robust conversations
09:11for days after this.
09:12And, um, and that's the best part, because I feel like, to me,
09:16that's my favourite part of going to the movies besides the candy,
09:19is the talking after.
09:21And the cast, you mentioned all the cast there.
09:24Had you worked with any of them before?
09:26None of them.
09:27And I am our other cast mate.
09:29There's many of us.
09:30Chloe.
09:31Chloe Sevigny.
09:32Yes.
09:33And none of us had, um, worked together before.
09:35And there was some kind of alchemy that happened where we really,
09:39we have fallen into a life together now.
09:45I don't think, I mean, we finished this movie over a year ago
09:48and I don't think a week has gone by that I haven't spoken to
09:52or texted one or more of them.
09:54Wow.
09:55Lovely.
09:56Yeah.
09:57Everyone who does interviews about this film all reference your banana
09:59bread.
10:00Oh, yeah.
10:01Like, do you cook anything else?
10:03No, I know.
10:04It seems like that's all I cook and it makes me sound like such a
10:08not cool person.
10:11No, it doesn't really.
10:12No, it's horrible.
10:13Super cool.
10:14And I do, I can make anything.
10:15I can make so many more things.
10:17And just ask me anything.
10:19I can make it.
10:20Make one thing and do it super well.
10:23Banana bread.
10:24Yeah.
10:25I can, and I'm not just a baker.
10:28Okay.
10:29I feel like I've touched a nerve.
10:31You know, there comes a time in life.
10:35Walnut bread as well.
10:36Not walnut bread.
10:38Don't be silly.
10:39No, not a nerve.
10:42I love making banana bread.
10:43I wish I had made enough for everybody here tonight.
10:46But, and I'm, yeah.
10:48Well, I've let them all down now.
10:49Yeah, really.
10:50Because, because Colin, when you were working with Margot Robbie in
10:55your last film, A Big Bold Beautiful Journey.
10:57Yeah.
10:58You fed her, was it every day you fed her?
11:00I didn't feed her.
11:01I mean, I would have if she wanted, but I gave the sandwich too.
11:05I gave the sandwich to her and she fed herself a crisp sandwich.
11:09You made her a crisp sandwich every day?
11:10Yeah.
11:11Oh, wow.
11:12That's a lovely thing to do.
11:13Thank you, the wooer.
11:14Yeah.
11:15Did she not make it herself?
11:17I, I just got into, I, I, I, I adopt habits very quickly.
11:22Just your gesture.
11:23And so, by day two, I, she, we were talking in rehearsal about the script and somehow it led to our childhoods, which led to food that we enjoyed when we were little and that evoke a sense of that bygone time.
11:35And I talked about potato crisps.
11:38Of course.
11:39And a sandwich with Kerrygold butter.
11:41That's so nice.
11:42And yeah, and I brought her one in and she just was licking her lips and loved it.
11:46And so that was it.
11:47The second day, by the second day the habit had kicked in and it was every day there was a Margot Robbie.
11:52I was a joy to bring her in a sandwich.
11:56Do you squish it down like I used to as a kid?
11:58You know you do.
11:59Yeah, you know, you know, you don't even have it.
12:01Yes, yes.
12:02Yeah, you get your fingerprints in there.
12:03Yeah.
12:04Yeah.
12:05The FBI could profile you from a well-made potato sandwich.
12:07Yeah.
12:08Yeah.
12:09But is this something you do on sets?
12:11Do you make things for people?
12:12Yeah.
12:13To eat?
12:14Yeah.
12:15Um, no.
12:16Okay.
12:17Have people made you things?
12:18Uh, no.
12:19Did you get any of Julia's banana bread?
12:20No.
12:21No.
12:22No.
12:23Um, but do I...
12:24I bring things in.
12:25Yeah, definitely.
12:26I bring cakes in but I don't make money.
12:28Making it.
12:29I'm not gonna...
12:30I guess I'm very generous.
12:31I give people give it all the time.
12:33I do think.
12:34I bring tequila.
12:35Oh, nice!
12:36There's the party.
12:37Absolutely.
12:38There's the party.
12:39There's the party.
12:40Tequila.
12:41But for after, not during.
12:42Do you collect?
12:43Do you collect tequila?
12:44Friday night.
12:45I don't collect them, I collect them in my throat.
12:47LAUGHTER
12:50They are.
12:51But it's celebratory, you know, at the end of the thing.
12:53Yes.
12:54But, early on, I would get so nervous that the band would do a pre-show shot.
12:59It could only be one.
13:00Mm.
13:01And you could only do that in your 20s.
13:02Because after that, you realise it dries you out, you can't continue a huge tour with it.
13:07But, yeah, at least it, you know, chilled you out. No more.
13:10No.
13:11Nice.
13:12Nice.
13:13Happy memories.
13:14Happy memories.
13:15Now, the last time you were here, Julia, we talked a lot about some of your old movies.
13:19And I know nothing makes you happier than talking about those.
13:21But, er...
13:22LAUGHTER
13:24But Mystic Pizza, Mystic Pizza, you know, and look, you'd have been successful, whatever.
13:28But this was kind of the film where everyone kind of paid attention and...
13:31Absolutely.
13:32...and noticed you.
13:33Yes.
13:34Life, I feel...
13:35You may know this already.
13:36I don't know.
13:37I just feel a dread right now.
13:39LAUGHTER
13:40Life might have been different because, er...
13:43The part was originally offered to...
13:46Do you know this?
13:47No.
13:48Gloria Espin?
13:49Ta-da!
13:50No.
13:51Yes.
13:52Yes.
13:54I have a rock in that same hair.
13:56Honestly, I would have sucked.
13:58It was terrible.
13:59I wasn't ready.
14:01You know, the career...
14:02I wasn't ready.
14:03No.
14:04You were fantastic in it.
14:05But my music career was starting.
14:07They offered me this role.
14:08I go, do I have to audition?
14:09They go, no, no, no.
14:10You've got the role if you want it.
14:11And I go, I'm not ready for this.
14:13It's a craft, as you all know.
14:14You made that call, though.
14:15Oh, absolutely.
14:16That's such a wise...
14:17No, I did, because I could have messed up my music career and failed at that.
14:21And I knew I wanted to act one day, but I wanted to have time to prepare and, you know, study.
14:26It's a craft, as you all well know.
14:28And I know that that would have been a big mistake, so...
14:30Wow, thank you.
14:31Well, thank you.
14:32It's a decision for both.
14:33I've never heard that before.
14:34I've never heard that.
14:35Yeah.
14:36I see some banana bread in...
14:37I expect...
14:38I expect the least banana bread.
14:41But am I right?
14:42After the first audition of something, you heard that they were looking for a Latin actress,
14:47or did you hear...
14:48Was that...?
14:49No, not a Latin actress, but after, like, my third reading, my hair was blonde, and I'd never colored my hair before.
15:01And she said, you know, the director's really thinking of someone with dark hair.
15:05You know, these people are supposed to be Portuguese, and so I don't know if you could do something with your hair.
15:12So I...
15:13That's probably why they offered me the role, my curly hair.
15:15Well...
15:16That was it.
15:17I had the curls, I just didn't have the dark, and so I got some, um...
15:21They used to have this colored mousse.
15:23I don't know if they still do, but I got black colored mousse, and I put in my already very curly, unruly hair.
15:32I walked in there, it was, like, massive and crispy.
15:40Well, I think we've got some pictures.
15:41That's you in the movie.
15:42That looks beautiful.
15:43Yeah, that's...
15:44Man, what's weird is, here's a picture of you, Gloria, from around the same time.
15:47Oh!
15:48Oh, wow!
15:49Sisters!
15:55And listen, you can see Julia in her new film, After the Hunt, in cinemas from next Friday.
16:00We move on now to Colin Farrell's new film, Ballad of a Small Player.
16:04It's in UK cinemas October 17th, and Netflix from October the 29th.
16:09It's a beautiful and really kind of unexpected film.
16:12So we'll start with a clip, and this is you kind of introducing your character.
16:18My name is Doyle.
16:21Lord Doyle.
16:27I'm a high roller on a slippery slope.
16:30A gambler with a pair of lucky gloves.
16:37Washed up on the shores of Macau.
16:41The gambling capital of the universe.
16:45A city of miracles.
16:47And a land saved from the sea.
16:49But I no longer believe in miracles.
16:56And in a few days, my life, as I know it, will be over.
17:02Bollocks.
17:03LAUGHTER
17:04MUSIC PLAYS
17:23Bollocks.
17:25LAUGHTER AND APPLAUSE
17:28Erm...
17:31I walked into this film not knowing anything about it, and so from the beginning I just thought,
17:35oh, it's a crime caper, good, you know, we're in for...
17:37And that is not what we're in for at all.
17:39No.
17:40LAUGHTER
17:41What are we in for?
17:42We're in for a jolly good tale about addiction and desperation
17:45and looking in all the wrong places for a sense of who you are
17:49and the meaning that we all kind of try to scratch at and locate in our lives,
17:55you know, he's looking in all the wrong places.
17:57Yeah, we meet the character, Lord Doyle,
18:00no backstory, he's just at the precipice about to kind of hit rock bottom.
18:04And it's that thing of characters who don't know when enough is enough.
18:08Like, it's about that kind of idea of just always wanting more.
18:11Yeah, absolutely.
18:12And your life, his life, becomes just all smoke and mirrors.
18:16There's an enormous amount of pretense, artifice, bless you.
18:20And...
18:21LAUGHTER
18:22And he is...
18:23Yeah, he's pretty, to be honest with you, he's pretty sick.
18:25He's pretty in the grip of addiction and he doesn't...
18:29There's no self-respecting addict does.
18:31He doesn't know when to stop.
18:33Whether it's gambling or whether it's booze, they're his proclivities.
18:36Yeah.
18:37Watching it, I thought it was set...
18:39This is absolutely...
18:40I thought it was set in a kind of, like, dystopian future.
18:43But that's Macau now.
18:45LAUGHTER
18:46Yeah, yeah.
18:47That's what Macau looks like.
18:48Today, yeah.
18:49It's a really fascinating place.
18:50I mean, I don't know that I ever would have found my way to Macau
18:53if it wasn't for this film.
18:54It's off the coast of Hong Kong.
18:56I think a little bit south-west of Hong Kong, I think.
18:58And it used to be two islands, Macau.
19:00There was the old town Macau and then an island called Colawan,
19:03which is still an old fishing village.
19:05Really lovely, really rustic.
19:07And then they dredged the sea floor in 2006
19:10and they joined both those islands.
19:12So now it's one island.
19:13And the middle part that they dredged and they built
19:15is in the space of, like, an afternoon.
19:18The Chinese don't mess around.
19:19They built this whole gambling strip,
19:21so it's known as the Las Vegas of the East.
19:23But you have that amazing fact
19:25about how it's much more serious than Vegas.
19:28Yeah, I mean, they're big players.
19:31I think the money spent in Macau in the space of something
19:36ridiculous like a month is Vegas' revenue for the year.
19:40Yeah, it's mad.
19:42You know the way you get to see behind the scenes
19:44when you're doing things?
19:45What?
19:46The gasping.
19:47Oh, yeah.
19:48That was a good gasp, though.
19:51The gasping.
19:53Graham's role for the sort.
19:55But it's easier to gasp on his sofa, I think.
19:59We went backstage and saw this room
20:01where the High Rollers play one day
20:03and the casino floor manager was showing me
20:05and there was two baccarat tables and he said,
20:07we had a good night last night at the house.
20:09And I said, what happened?
20:10And he said, we had two gentlemen in from the mainland.
20:12They flew in on private jets.
20:13They didn't know each other.
20:14One sat at that baccarat table and one sat at that baccarat table
20:17and we did well.
20:18And I said, do you mind me asking what a good night for the house is?
20:20And he went, yeah, they both played for four hours
20:23and we were up 24 million.
20:25Wow.
20:26I want to thank you for teaching me baccarat.
20:33I've always wondered when I went by the tables how you played that.
20:37It's really interesting.
20:38And you don't play it is what you're teaching us.
20:40Yeah, yeah, yeah.
20:41Because, Gloria, you've played Vegas.
20:42Did you not do any of the gambling things?
20:44Did you just perform?
20:45I like a little bit of blackjack.
20:47I'll do that for a little bit.
20:49But I like the penny machine.
20:50OK.
20:51I'll sit there for hours with the drum machine all alone
20:55with the little thing, yeah.
20:56And what's it like performing in Vegas?
20:57So the audience is...
20:58When I perform in Vegas, I am stuck in my room with 27 humidifiers.
21:03I cannot leave because of the dryness.
21:06We're not meant to sing in a desert.
21:07Yeah, yeah.
21:08It's really rough.
21:09But, yeah, it's brutal on performers.
21:11How long were you there?
21:12I was there for a 10-day stint in Celine's Theatre
21:16before she opened because I was rehearsing for my tour.
21:20And I was...
21:21Everybody having fun, having a great old time,
21:23and I was up there, like, breathing in humidity.
21:26Because, Julia, you obviously made Ocean's Eleven in Vegas.
21:29Yes.
21:30Which must be...
21:31I mean, the three of you and the rest of you in real casinos,
21:35was it just a nightmare to make that film?
21:37No, it was pretty fun.
21:39Do they shut things down completely?
21:41No, no.
21:42Oh!
21:43Just little areas, just little sections.
21:45But weren't just crowds gathering to watch the filming?
21:49Yes and no.
21:51Because, you know, people come to gamble, that's what they want to do.
21:53Yeah.
21:54So, in a way, they're not really paying attention to what's...
21:58It's like, oh, a movie seems insignificant to trying to win $24 million.
22:03Or losing.
22:04Or losing.
22:05Or losing.
22:06And are you confirmed for...
22:08I think George Clooney just confirmed that there's Ocean's 14.
22:11I...
22:12Yeah.
22:13I guess he did.
22:14I mean, I just said that too.
22:15Oh, OK.
22:16I just...
22:17Yeah.
22:18I mean, I've talked to...
22:19We've all talked about it, but I didn't realise he was going to be confirmed.
22:22LAUGHTER
22:24Put the cell phone down, George.
22:27Stop texting.
22:28I mean, I'm just hearing about the artificial environment.
22:31That's the thing that scares me the most about it.
22:33Not just the addiction and the kind of pursuit of, oh, this time I win as you keep losing
22:37more and more, but also just the fact that you are hermetically sealed in an oxygen-pumped
22:42chamber in a desert, just burning money.
22:45It's just the whole thing seems like a nightmare, a fever dream, which is what the film was.
22:49Yeah.
22:50Yeah, no, it really is.
22:51But don't you always think in Vegas, for this, you know, for fun, for a fun...
22:55No one looks like they're having fun.
22:56Everyone's just shuffling around because they've lost all the money they brought in an hour
23:01and now they're here for another two days.
23:02I do.
23:03LAUGHTER
23:04Like, in Vegas it's great to go with your...
23:06You know, it was one thing when I was 22 or three, but to go now with my kids,
23:10which I have done for the last few years, and you go and see a Cirque du Soleil show,
23:13you get a steak dinner and then you let your six-year-old walk around,
23:17you know, Las Vegas Boulevard at one o'clock in the morning
23:20and he just thinks the world is his.
23:22Wait, you didn't say your six-year-old?
23:24Yeah, but I didn't go with him.
23:25I let him have space, I let him go with him.
23:27LAUGHTER
23:30I was...
23:31OK.
23:32Yeah.
23:33No, I mean, I...
23:34I was holding his hand.
23:36He was tagged, it was all right.
23:37Yeah, it was...
23:38It got him to count.
23:40LAUGHTER
23:41There was no G-strings on stilts or anything, you know?
23:44Yeah.
23:45It was all very family...
23:46Good, clean, fun.
23:47Good, clean, family fun.
23:48Well, listen, just a reminder that Ballad of a Small Player
23:51is coming to cinemas and on Netflix.
23:53Meanwhile, Benedict Cumberbatch brings us an extraordinary piece of work.
23:57It's called The Thing with Feathers.
23:59It's in UK and Ireland cinemas from the 21st of November.
24:04So this is Max Porter's famous book about grief.
24:08But that's kind of...
24:09It's about more than that, and yet that is what it's about.
24:12That is very much what it's about.
24:13I mean, it's a portrait of a family, a father who loses his wife very suddenly
24:18and two boys in the year that they spend in the aftermath of that chaos
24:23and what grief does and how it manifests.
24:25And in this imagining, it manifests itself as a crow.
24:32And it's based on Max Porter's award-winning novel where he...
24:36This man is a Ted Hughes scholar, so it's about a group of his poems called The Crow.
24:40And in this one, he's an illustrator, so it's about the manifestation
24:43of this illustrator's imagination becoming real and manifest between the three of them.
24:49And The Crow is more than a kind of an image. The Crow is a character.
24:53The Crow is a character.
24:54It was a real man called Eric who is on stilts with an animatronic head
24:59and a sort of cloaky thing with a weird arm shape that's half humanoid
25:04and a lot crow and claw, but this amazing, very heavy head and beak.
25:10And it's David Thewlis's voice in the film, the final film.
25:15Well, in the clip, we see you playing dad and it's one of your encounters with Crow,
25:19but here we just hear the voice, as you say, David Thewlis's voice.
25:26Doctor? Doctor, I think I'm being followed by a crow.
25:30You're not fucking real.
25:32Bro!
25:39Good evening, Wither, including our man.
25:45Stick to routines. It is a way I said.
25:48Children need routines.
25:50Not those boys.
25:51Those boys need bows
25:53and arrows, they need stars.
25:54They need mist. They need chaos. They need crowds.
25:57You're not real.
26:00For really?
26:02You know not surprisingly it is a very moving film
26:25it's a it's a very moving film and the little boys we didn't see them there that
26:29play your your sons they're so little yeah I just how can you cast you know
26:36because they might mean very good on the afternoon when you met them but you're
26:39with them for a long time how do you know they're going to be any good with Dylan
26:43Southern who's the director then and also the writer he's the visionary
26:46behind this film adaptation of the book and he in the audition process they were
26:51the only ones he really really wanted and when I went in to do a test with them I
26:55came out and go and I just I was I'm scared I'm actually scared there it was
27:01day it was so dangerous they're not actors they're untrained they're two
27:04seven-year-old and they're brothers they're twins the purity of their
27:07vulnerability was the scary thing no just the fact that they are children mental
27:11and out of control yeah no you know they were fighting each other they were
27:16throwing insults at me they were tearing around the room oh wow but yeah but they
27:21are extraordinary and we are Richard is the slightly older one by seconds to
27:27Henry is sort of preternaturally old soul he looks older even though they are
27:33seconds apart in birth and and there were two moments that I remember very
27:37chiefly foot how we kind of got through it and can't quite believe we did it one
27:40moment when I'm telling them their mothers died and Richard just found it
27:44unbelievably funny from and then you know eventually he got into it and I said I
27:57think you know because you're upset you might want to just sort of allow me to
28:00just cut it I think we should have a huddle here I think this is a kind of a
28:03cuddle moment he went no I don't like colors I don't like colors well just just this
28:09once just this once he did it and and during the take he whispered in the air
28:14like this he was like I mean what a thing to go through and yeah they were amazing they are
28:29amazing because Julie have you worked with children that you know untrained kind of
28:33little kids that I mean in Erin Brock which I had three children yeah and one of them was a
28:39like a baby or was that one was a baby there were two babies there were twin
28:43babies yeah there's the baby and they were all great and the two babies were
28:50wonderful until one of the babies I had in my arms for a scene where there's I'm
28:56filling up a pot with water and there's a cockroach or something appears and I
29:01dropped the pot the loud pot and it scared the baby and the baby started crying which
29:06was fine and great and appropriate good acting on the baby's part but then she became the crying
29:13baby because anytime she came to me she was like scary pot lady she's still crying somewhere in the
29:21world and so she truly was the crying baby from that time I think for maybe the rest of the show I
29:29still feel bad talking of crying I have to say you know actors often talk about how taking doing
29:34difficult roles you take it home with you and it's hard to shake off but because of the amount of
29:40crying in this film yeah I just in terms of headaches and that kind of terrible tight head you get from
29:45crying you must have had all of that drunk a lot of water yeah yeah do you do a lot of crying quite a
29:50bit in this yeah and it's you know when there are three different setups and you're doing it eight
29:54times in each and you know those kind of extremes you hopefully only ever have once or twice at most
30:00hopefully in your life I wish it on nobody but you know we all go through it and it's a very important
30:04part of why I was proud to make a small independent film about this subject we don't talk about it
30:08much we don't deal with it very well in life and especially as men to be able to yeah about it deal
30:13with it which is what Max's work is about what the film honors and so I'm not gonna sit here and bemoan
30:18the fact that I had to cry a few times because the real thing's much worse but you go through it a lot
30:23yeah and also is it easier actors discuss is it easier to cry if you're going to a very dark place
30:31like grief and losing someone or is it easy to cry in like a rom-com like say at the end of
30:37Notting Hill squeezing out a tear with you Grant yeah you did you can why during I'm Just a Girl you just oh
30:46yeah I did no you're absolutely right oh that only one of the most famous moments in the history of romantic colonies
31:00is it very hard to produce tears at a moment like that where it's it's happy and light no I mean I
31:06think when anything is is authentic obviously what Benedict is talking about is so deep and profound and dark and
31:13bleak but if you if I attach myself to it in a in a sweet truthful way I mean that that was just I mean
31:25it was a beautiful scene and beautiful words to say and and and obviously touching to me yeah that's how
31:32I portrayed it but that's a very different place that you're in you know tears have actual stress
31:38molecules in them so yes they do and coming out is you are releasing stress and and pain so that's why they say
31:46cry it out because it really works I think you're lovely the idea about this film and that we don't talk about grief
31:51enough it's a huge thing and that we don't talk about death like I know that sounds of course obviously more
31:58but the word joke on a cha-cha we don't talk about I have a question for me Julia please thank you when
32:12you're making this movie and then you go home to your beautiful wife and your boys like how do you
32:19sustain I mean are you do you just want to be joyful and and happy with them or do you feel you have to
32:26kind of maintain a bit of quietness no it's enough to leave it on the dance floor and then go back and
32:33do it yeah it's a car journey in and a car journey back and that's it yeah those are the transitional
32:38moments and it's the older I get the easier that is especially with a family that I remember you
32:43crying in August Osage County and it's when it you come off the bus Chris Cooper and it is such a
32:48beautiful scene you've missed my dad's funeral and it is such a beautiful sweet touching little
32:57show it's such a great scene thank you you're very good Benedict oh well Julie Roberts so are you
33:03well now no crying only celebration because a Gloria Estevan she has made a new album yes it's called
33:23Raices beautifully done is it right yes Luca Guadagnino yes racist yeah I think I've got it here yes
33:33and unless people have been lying to me Raices means roots okay and this is your 30th album 30th album
33:42it's your first album in Spanish for nearly two decades so why I suppose why wait and why now well
33:56it's kind of full circle but it all converged in this year somehow we didn't plan it that way but I wanted
34:02I thought particularly now it was important to sing in Spanish it's a very autobiographical record of
34:09Emilio's and my love story he wrote his own love song for himself that I was to sing and it's talking
34:17about who we are our culture that we need to really keep alive who we are from wherever we come and I
34:24happen to come from Cuba I have Spanish roots and I wanted to recreate that picture of my mom and me
34:30and that picture on the table that's where we lived when we first left Cuba when I was two years old so I
34:38recreated it because my mom's in me there's my grandmother and my great-grandmother are in the picture in the
34:43picture oh yes yeah yeah yeah down here so it's a lot of fun too is a lot of salsa I love singing that Chile
34:50invited me to do Bemba colorado which was a Celia Cruz record and I remembered how much I love this genre so
34:57when Emilio brought this song to me which is a gorgeous song talking about the things that really matter family love uh nature I
35:05told them I want to do a tropical album with a lot of really you know dance beats and salsa and fun stuff
35:12and that's what we've done on top of you know a couple real romantic things can't get away from that
35:16well as you say roots refers to not not just culture but also family and that's all reflected in this clip
35:23from the video of the title track Raises
35:26El tiempo pasa y nunca vuelve y si aprovechas ese amor siempre alegría abre en tu alma y esa es una gran bendición
35:35so sweet
36:02thank you
36:05thank you I directed and edited the videos for the thing and the other video vecina about the nosy
36:12neighbor I shot in the place where I lived with my mom with your mom yes yeah no we we really enjoyed
36:18doing this and music I sing since I talk so it just came with me and I feel so blessed and privileged
36:25thank you everybody that has ever listened bought any of my music you make my life so wonderful
36:32I appreciate you I love you and I feel so so blessed and privileged to make music it's a magical thing
36:40and uh in the past we've talked about your special honor you had is it the Miami uh
36:45the salmachine boulevard is where we used to live that my sister lives there now
36:50yeah there it is oh there you are you know people would steal that sign I'd be in Hawaii and somebody's holding up the street sign and it got expensive so now they made it smaller
36:59but but now apparently I have my own way Gloria Estefan way will be open yet no it's inaugurated on Monday this Monday the 13th my lucky number and it's right alongside the hotel that Emilio and I have owned for
37:14almost three decades on Ocean Drive the Cardozo historic hole in the head was filmed there Frank Sinatra something about Mary that famous scene with the
37:21something about Mary that famous scene with the cell was filmed there in our bar and yeah there's a lot of history oh birdcage also shot in that hotel
37:33Wow yeah and now it's Gloria Estefan way yes it's a little way like me
37:38like me
37:39but uh yeah I'm thrilled you know
37:43well get get yourself down Gloria Estefan way
37:46and uh love you having me back and congratulations on the new album Raises is out now
37:51uh well I think we're all in the mood for some more music now so it's time for tonight's performance
37:56this British pop icon has had the most UK number one albums of any solo artist
38:01here performing his new single Pretty Face it is Robbie Williams
38:06here we go here we go here I go with you
38:23what I know I don't know but I died for you
38:27pretty smile pretty eyes big energy
38:30I'm pretty sure that I know you died for me
38:35you're the reason why
38:38I'm the man I am today
38:42you're the reason why
38:45I see myself this way
38:49such a pretty face
38:50such a pretty face
38:54could be as Bardzo неetic
39:02she's everything I love about
39:04everything I love about this world
39:06Hmmm she's got
39:07She's got it
39:09She's got it
39:13She's everything I love about
39:16Everything I love about this world
39:21Here we are, here we are
39:25And here we'll stay
39:27I'm with you, you're with me
39:29To judgment day
39:31I'm in love, I'm in love
39:33I'm in love with you
39:35You
39:37You're the reason why
39:42I'm the man I am today
39:46You're the reason why
39:49I see myself this way
39:53Such a pretty face
39:56Such a pretty face
40:00She's everything I love about
40:05Everything I love about this world
40:10She's got it
40:13Such a pretty face
40:14She's everything I love about
40:20Everything I love about this world
40:25I'm for one of three
40:28I'm for one of three
40:28You're the best I've seen
40:32I'll give you everything
40:35And what's left of me
40:39And what's left of me
40:40Such a pretty face
40:42She's got it
40:44Such a pretty face
40:46She's got it
40:47She's everything I love about
40:51Everything I love about this world
40:56You're the best she's got it
40:57Such a pretty face
40:57She's got it
40:58She'sガ pa pa pa pa pa pa pa pa pa pa sch
40:59She's got it
40:59She's got it
41:00Such a pretty face
41:01She's got it
41:03Such a pretty face
41:03She's everything I love about
41:05Everything I love this world
41:07Everything I love about this world
41:11Hello, hello, hello, hello
41:15You know I'll always be
41:30Looking at you, queen
41:34But the biggest prize
41:38Is what's behind those eyes
41:43This is Robbie Williams, everybody!
41:53And his band!
41:56Come on over, Robbie!
41:59Thank you so much for that.
42:01It was beautiful.
42:02Thank you so much.
42:03Thank you very much.
42:04Thank you so much.
42:04Hello, Gloria.
42:06There it is, Paul and Julia.
42:09That is Robbie Williams.
42:11There it goes.
42:14Robbie Williams, who do you know on the couch?
42:20Uh, no, everybody from watching them on the tally.
42:22OK, that's good.
42:24And Julia Roberts.
42:26Oh, my God.
42:26I can't bet.
42:27I've watched Pretty Woman six times in a row.
42:30What?
42:30And at the end of the sixth time, I was like, one day, I will take a prostitute shop in.
42:35Oh!
42:36And I did.
42:37And I did.
42:38I did something.
42:41That's a...
42:42Wow.
42:43That's a lovely story, Robbie.
42:45That's...
42:46That's really lovely.
42:47Um...
42:48So, that song, that is off the new album, Britpop, which is out in February.
42:56February 2026.
42:58APPLAUSE
43:00And...
43:01So, the idea of Britpop, you're referencing your appearance at Glastonbury here.
43:07Yes.
43:08In 1995, I was in a boy band.
43:11You auditioned for a boy band, didn't you?
43:12Tell us about it, yeah.
43:13Yeah.
43:14Didn't go well.
43:15You know, it did, did it?
43:16There was two dead mics and they wouldn't let me have one of them.
43:18Oh, but that's how...
43:19Maybe it did go well.
43:21I was in Take That and we were a lily white pop band, a boy band.
43:26And at the time, there was sort of, you know, uncool, naffness, that kind of thing.
43:31And then Glastonbury was the height of militant indiness.
43:36And people like me shouldn't go there.
43:39Doesn't it...
43:40This thing doesn't exist anymore.
43:41But in 1995, and also, there was a lot of rules in the boy band.
43:45I wasn't allowed to do anything, really.
43:47And then...
43:48Stuck by that, didn't you, Robbie?
43:49Yeah, I did, Jenna.
43:50Stuck by that.
43:51For both of us.
43:52Yeah, yeah.
43:53So anyway, and then one day, because we weren't allowed to go to clubs or things like that,
43:58and we weren't allowed to go to festivals, and then one day I was just not having it.
44:03When I realised that they couldn't fire me anymore, when we were, like, too popular to be fired,
44:08I was like, I can do anything I like now, and I've got to.
44:12So I turned up at Glastonbury in 1995 and a lot of people were like,
44:17what are you doing here?
44:18And I was like, well, I'm having it, aren't I?
44:20That's what I'm doing here.
44:21But then inside there's the album, there's this blue plaque that...
44:24So did you make this blue plaque?
44:26What's it say?
44:27This is the one...
44:28And then I'll decide if I did it or not.
44:29This is the one that was put up...
44:31Yes, I did.
44:32Was this up in Glastonbury this year?
44:34Yes, it was.
44:35So I think we've got a picture, this is the blue plaque, it's up in Glastonbury,
44:38and it's basically, Robin Williams entered this area without accreditation, authorization,
44:42or alignment with prevailing taste.
44:44His presence was uninvited, unofficial, and ultimately inevitable.
44:48Yes, I wrote that.
44:51Yeah.
44:52APPLAUSE
44:54Were you out at Glastonbury this year?
44:56No, but everybody thought I was.
44:58So for like, when that went up for 24 hours, my phone was blowing up.
45:01We know you're here, we know you're doing the secret performance,
45:04we've seen you in the healing field, what time are you on?
45:06And I was in Belgium.
45:08So it was fun to take over Glastonbury and not actually be there.
45:12Yeah.
45:13And I'd like to announce on the TV tonight that I'm playing Glastonbury next year.
45:18CHEERING AND APPLAUSE
45:23That's the result on next year, isn't it?
45:25No, I'm still going to play it though.
45:26OK.
45:27OK.
45:28Yeah, so...
45:29Like it or not.
45:30Like it or not.
45:31Cos they haven't asked me since 1998, so I'm going to go do it anyway.
45:35OK.
45:36So I'm going to turn up in a truck and then put the side down
45:39and then do half an hour.
45:40No, it's like a carny.
45:41Yeah, yeah.
45:42Yeah.
45:43Are you going to tell anyone you're there?
45:44No.
45:45OK.
45:46No, but I am doing it.
45:47There's people between us.
45:49Yeah, yeah.
45:50This is very quickly, European stadium tour was your summer and everything.
45:55Huge.
45:56But now next year, you're going out with this album.
45:58Yeah.
45:59To proper small venues where like, there'll be a frenzy for these tickets.
46:03Like playing Barrowlands, Liverpool Olympia, Brixton Academy.
46:07I mean, these are small venues for you.
46:08When was the last time you played venues like that?
46:11In 1997, I think, was the last time that I had to do that.
46:17So thankfully I'm choosing to.
46:20This is not where my career is at, everybody.
46:23What is the thinking?
46:25Well, actually, so it's maybe 30 years now since I put out the first album live through a lens.
46:32So what I'm going to do is I'm just going to play my first album from beginning to end and then make them listen to my new album too, which I will also play from beginning to end.
46:41I'm just suckering them in really.
46:44I'll give you this, but then I'll hit you over the head with this new stuff that I'll make you listen to.
46:49And very good it will be.
46:50Listen, you always put on a fantastic performance.
46:52Thank you so much for that.
46:54Robbie Williams, everybody.
46:55That is really it.
46:56But before we go, it's just some time for a visit to the big red chair.
47:05You've been in the chair now, Robbie.
47:06Yes, I have.
47:07It's not as far back as you think it's going.
47:09No, no.
47:10Hello.
47:11Hi, how's it going?
47:12Good.
47:13And what's your name?
47:14I'm Ben.
47:15Ben.
47:16And where are you from, Ben?
47:17I'm from Limerick in Ireland.
47:18Lovely.
47:19Loving Limerick.
47:20And what do you do in Limerick, Ben?
47:22Well, I'm living here full time now.
47:23Oh, right.
47:24Working in construction.
47:25Oh, right.
47:26When did you come over?
47:27This time last year.
47:28How's it going?
47:29Very well.
47:30OK, Ben.
47:31Going very well.
47:32Off you go with the story, Ben.
47:34Right.
47:35So it was around Covid time when all the regulations started easing up and you could start going drinking
47:42in hotels again.
47:43So me and my friend had a great idea.
47:45We'd book into a hotel in Limerick where we both lived and we'd stay there so we could
47:48go on the beer for the night.
47:50Basically, the hotel we were in, our friend was working there as well.
47:55And he was very, very heavy handed with the portions he was giving us.
47:58So the last thing I remember is walking out of the front door of the hotel.
48:03And the next thing I remember is an absolute banshee scream.
48:07And I woke up, looked around me.
48:09I was in a tiny box and I look out the little hole.
48:12I see my mother looking in at me.
48:14I was asleep in my dog's kennel out the back garden.
48:17We love Ben.
48:19You can walk, Ben.
48:20You can walk.
48:21Well done, Ben.
48:22All right, that really is all about tonight.
48:26If you'd like to have a go and Fred show yourself and tell your story,
48:29you've got that via our website at this very address.
48:31Please say a huge thank you to all of my guests.
48:34Robbie Williams!
48:36Gloria Esteban!
48:40Benedict Cumberbatch!
48:44Colin Farrell!
48:47And Julia Roberts!
48:49Do join me next week with Florence and the Machine, Tessa Thompson,
48:54Oscar winner Jennifer Lawrence, Jeremy Alan White and the boss himself,
48:58Bruce Springsteen.
48:59I'll see you then.
49:00Good night to be.
49:01Bye-bye!
49:02How are you?
49:08Alan Partridge wants to know the state of the nation's mental health.
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