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00:00MUSIC
00:16Oh, ho, ho!
00:18Thank you so much.
00:20Oh, you're very kind.
00:22Thank you, thank you, thank you.
00:24Hello, hello, hello.
00:26Good evening, everybody.
00:27You are so welcome to the show.
00:29And can I just say...
00:31Happy Black Friday, everybody!
00:33I know!
00:35Have you all done your shopping?
00:37Mmm.
00:38Now, you know what I've ordered?
00:39Yeah.
00:40Five amazing guests, and they've all arrived!
00:42And singing for us later, look who's back.
00:44It's only Jessie J!
00:49She'll be performing her new single, H-A-P-P-Y.
00:52But first, we've a very happy sofa for you tonight.
00:55We've loved her as Claire,
00:57as Claire in Derry Girls,
00:58as Lady Whistledown in Bridgerton,
01:00and as Diplomat Barbie.
01:01Now she's back on stage
01:03in the classic Playboy of the Western world.
01:05It's Nicola Coughlin, everybody!
01:07Yay!
01:11Hello!
01:13Nice!
01:14Nice to meet you!
01:15Nice to meet you!
01:16Nice to meet you!
01:17Have a seat!
01:19This wonderful woman is a BAFTA-winning star
01:22of stage, cinema and television,
01:24and a Vogue cover girl to boot.
01:27Now she brings us the A to Z of her stories and opinions
01:30in the Little Book of Miriam.
01:32It's always a pleasure to welcome...
01:34Miriam Margulies!
01:36Woo!
01:37Woo!
01:38Woo!
01:39Woo!
01:40Woo!
01:41Woo!
01:42Woo!
01:43Woo!
01:44Woo!
01:45Woo!
01:46Woo!
01:47Woo!
01:48Woo!
01:49Woo!
01:50Woo!
01:51Woo!
01:52Woo!
01:53Woo!
01:54Woo!
01:55Woo!
01:56Woo!
01:57Woo!
01:58Woo!
01:59This smouldering swede first made his mark
02:00in vampire series True Blood
02:02before starring in Viking epic The Northmen
02:04and hit shows like Big Little Lies
02:05and Succession.
02:06His new film is called Piline It's a First Time
02:10Welcome to Mr. Alexander Skarsgård.
02:14Woo!
02:16On your head. There you go.
02:18APPLAUSE
02:20Happy to see you.
02:22Happy to see you.
02:24There you go.
02:26And this Hollywood great
02:28is an eight-time Oscar nominee
02:30who starred in films like Fatal Attraction,
02:32Dangerous Liaisons and 101 Dalmatians.
02:34Now she stars in the latest
02:36Knives Out mystery, Wake Up Dead Man.
02:38It is the great
02:40Glenn Close!
02:42CHEERING
02:44Hello. Hello.
02:46So great to see you.
02:48Welcome back. Thank you.
02:50There you go. Meet everyone on the couch.
02:52Oh, lovely,
02:54lovely, lovely, lovely, lovely.
02:56Nice to see you all.
02:58Leave the guests alone, Miriam.
03:00Sorry.
03:02Miriam, are you paying homage to Where's Wally?
03:04Why the scarf?
03:06It's Arsenal.
03:08Oh.
03:10You've heard of Arsenal.
03:12Oh, I have. Certainly the first part.
03:14LAUGHTER
03:18Was there a big game tonight?
03:20Yesterday there was a big game, yeah.
03:22I'm technically an Arsenal supporter too.
03:24I had a driver called Mickey who drove me on three different jobs
03:26and he said, do you have a team? I said, no.
03:28He said, you're an Arsenal supporter, so, me too.
03:30So you are as well? I don't know anything, but in, yes.
03:32Well, the thing is, I want to join the working classes.
03:36LAUGHTER
03:38I'm so middle class, you know.
03:40I can't help it.
03:42But Arsenal is working class.
03:44OK. And I thought if I support Arsenal,
03:46you know, people will accept me.
03:48LAUGHTER
03:50There's nothing like a scarf over sequins to suggest working class.
03:54LAUGHTER
03:56It's lovely to see you, Miriam.
03:58Glenn Close, I was saying to you,
04:00I feel like you're a frequent guest.
04:02You haven't been here for, what, 18 years?
04:0418 years, yes.
04:06What did you do to her the first time?
04:08LAUGHTER
04:09But now, is it true you nearly worked with Miriam?
04:11Yes, I think...
04:12Yes, I think...
04:13Don't you remember?
04:14Yes, I do.
04:15Well, it was...
04:16I think it was Albert Nobbs.
04:17Yeah, Albert Nobbs, that's right.
04:18Yes.
04:19The movie Albert Nobbs, it was shot in Dublin
04:20and I was dying for you to play the hotel proprietor.
04:22And why didn't I?
04:23What happened?
04:24I don't know.
04:25You would have been marvellous.
04:26I would have loved to have done that.
04:27Yes, yes.
04:28It's a beautiful piece of work.
04:31And I really admire you.
04:33You know, I don't admire all those people in Hollywood.
04:36But you, I do.
04:37I don't live in Hollywood and I never have.
04:40LAUGHTER
04:41You work there.
04:42You know, we all work there sometimes.
04:43Yeah.
04:44But you're a class act, darling.
04:46Oh, my goodness.
04:47Glenn...
04:48..class, I would say.
04:49Oh, well, there, yes.
04:50Right?
04:51Glenn class.
04:52Glenn class.
04:53That's nice.
04:54I mean that.
04:55I mean that.
04:56It's a first-time welcome to Alexander Skarsgård.
04:58So, hello.
04:59Hello.
05:00Hello.
05:01And now, here's an odd thing.
05:02I think you know Miriam.
05:04Uh...
05:05No, you don't.
05:07LAUGHTER
05:08What's that about?
05:09I clearly made a strong impression on Miriam when we met.
05:12What?
05:13Well, I...
05:14LAUGHTER
05:15We have actually met, yes.
05:17I believe you own or used to own a condo in Santa Monica.
05:23Is that correct?
05:24I did, yes, yes.
05:25Yeah.
05:26Were you looking to rent out a room in that at one point?
05:28This would have been like...
05:29When I was coming back to England, yeah.
05:32OK.
05:33What were you doing there?
05:34Well, I was...
05:35You were...
05:36Cos you were going back to shoot...
05:38Was it Harry Potter maybe?
05:39Yeah, I think so.
05:40Yeah.
05:41And I...
05:42It was an ad.
05:43I was looking for a room to rent.
05:45I was...
05:46How did you take it?
05:47Well...
05:48LAUGHTER
05:50Tell her.
05:51Tell her.
05:52Uh-oh.
05:53Was it not clean or something?
05:54No, I...
05:55It was incredibly...
05:56It was a gorgeous apartment and I remember that you were very charming and I...
06:02And expensive?
06:03No, I don't think it was that.
06:04I think it was...
06:05I think, in hindsight, I probably misread the cues, but I felt a strong sexual connection.
06:11LAUGHTER
06:12And I think that...
06:13And I think that...
06:14Still now.
06:15LAUGHTER
06:16More to go.
06:17Again, I...
06:18It was...
06:19Probably a...
06:20Probably misread the cues, but...
06:21I felt this could potentially get messy if I rent a room in this apartment.
06:24If I'm...
06:25If I'm your tenant...
06:26Darling, I'm 84 and gay.
06:29LAUGHTER
06:30And I've been with my partner for 58 years.
06:33Again, I probably misread the situation.
06:36LAUGHTER
06:37Wow.
06:38But, uh...
06:39You're talking through your bottle.
06:41LAUGHTER
06:42But, you know, it is...
06:43I was actually there and I do remember that we had a lovely afternoon, which you obviously
06:48don't remember, but it was, um...
06:50It was...
06:51LAUGHTER
06:52That bit...
06:53That bit's true, Miriam.
06:54He did...
06:55A lovely afternoon.
06:56Yes.
06:57Uh, Nicola, have you nearly worked with Miriam or nearly lived with her?
07:00LAUGHTER
07:01Yes.
07:02Miriam, I'm your daughter.
07:04LAUGHTER
07:05And I am your father.
07:08LAUGHTER
07:14Oh, my God.
07:15Happy family.
07:16Oh, that is lovely.
07:17Yeah, yeah, yeah.
07:18Oh.
07:19I feel like it's a Christmas special.
07:20Yeah.
07:21Long lost families.
07:22It's beautiful.
07:23Ellis, we've got lots to talk about tonight.
07:26We've got two great films, a classic play and a new book from Miriam.
07:29So, let's get started.
07:30Glenn Close brings us our new star-studded whodunit,
07:33Wake Up Dead Man, a Knives Out mystery.
07:36It opens in cinemas tonight and then it'll stream on Netflix from the 12th of December.
07:42So, this is the latest Benoit Blanc mystery played by Daniel Craig.
07:47It's on all new cast, all new story.
07:49Who are you?
07:50What's going on?
07:51Ah.
07:52Well, it's gothic.
07:53It's more gothic than the others.
07:55And it takes place largely in and around a church.
07:58And I am Martha Delacroix, the woman who is, I would call, the church lady.
08:05Yeah.
08:06She takes care of everything.
08:08It's a great part for you.
08:09I mean, it's...
08:10It was fun.
08:11Yeah.
08:12And like always, the cast is amazing.
08:14Yeah.
08:15Daniel Craig, you...
08:16Joshua Connor is so good in this film.
08:18So good.
08:19He plays a priest.
08:20Yes.
08:21Oh, there he is.
08:22He's fantastic.
08:23I think he's kind of like a young Jimmy Stewart.
08:26Oh, that's a...
08:27Yes.
08:28You know, he kind of, you can't help but love him.
08:29Yeah.
08:30Listen, we've got a little clip.
08:32This is Joshua Connor as the priest.
08:34Yes, he's just arrived.
08:35He's just arrived.
08:36He's discovering something of the church's past.
08:39Yes.
08:40So this is the crypt.
08:41Yep.
08:42It's a damn shame.
08:43Gotta put up a security camera.
08:45Is there an entrance?
08:46There is.
08:48This right here.
08:50It's the Lazarus door.
08:51It takes construction equipment to open from the outside,
08:54but cantilevered is such that one push
08:57sent a tumbling to the ground from the inside.
09:00Who's in there, then?
09:02Prentiss.
09:03Wix's grandfather, the founder of this church,
09:08was like a father to me.
09:10Makes me sick.
09:12These kids painting rocket ships
09:14all over his sacred resting place.
09:16Very good.
09:18And Thomas headed church in that clip as well.
09:27But apparently, and I know people always say this after films,
09:29particularly when there's a big cast, that it was a very happy thing.
09:32It was.
09:33But apparently you weren't hanging out in your own trailers at all.
09:35No, not at all.
09:36In fact, it's kind of what Rian Johnson does.
09:39Wherever we were, we had a movable green worm.
09:42And that's where we would gather and laugh and sleep and tell stories
09:48and try those.
09:49At one point, somebody brought in those really terrible British,
09:53their piggy thumb, the candies.
09:55Peppa pigs?
09:56Yeah, Peppa pigs.
09:57We were all trying Peppa pigs.
09:59Percy pigs.
10:00Percy pigs.
10:01Percy pigs.
10:02Things like that.
10:03Yeah, yeah.
10:04Wow.
10:05We had a wonderful, yeah.
10:06We had a great time.
10:07The bar was quite low.
10:08But those things that were drawn on the, whatever it was,
10:14they looked like genital organs.
10:16Yes, Miriam.
10:17Am I right?
10:19Am I right?
10:20Yes.
10:21Yes.
10:22I mean, it was an approximation, but yes.
10:24It's a while since I've seen one.
10:26And now the other thing, it's a lovely cast and you all hung out,
10:33but you also brought your lovely dog, Pip.
10:36My dog, Pip.
10:37Yes.
10:38Who doesn't appear in the film.
10:39No.
10:40But he's backstage right now.
10:41Oh, is he?
10:42Oh, yes.
10:43You should have brought him on.
10:44This is you and Pip on set.
10:46By the way, I should say this isn't a spoiler.
10:50Did the dog do it?
10:52He wants you to think he did.
10:55Those eyes, I get lost in those eyes.
10:58I know.
10:59Yeah.
11:00And now this crucifix, is this the crucifix you brought from another film?
11:03Yes.
11:04Yes.
11:05I have an incredible costume collection from my first movie.
11:09And that crucifix was actually given to me by my father when he visited St. Peter's
11:14a long time ago.
11:15And I wore it in House of the Spirits.
11:17Yeah.
11:18And I said, wouldn't it be nice to get it and wear it again in this film?
11:22And I did.
11:23And it really meant something to me.
11:25And is it true the thing about your contract?
11:27Yes.
11:28That you...
11:29About costume.
11:30Yeah.
11:31Yes.
11:32And pick whatever I want.
11:33Not if...
11:34Not if it's rented, though I have nicked a couple of things.
11:38I have to say.
11:39And what do you do with them all?
11:41Well, first of all, I...
11:43I spend a lot of time in fitting rooms.
11:46And especially in movies where you don't have a lot of time to rehearse, if any at all.
11:51It's in that costume room when they're constructing the character.
11:55You're literally part of constructing the character as they're putting the clothes on you.
12:00So I've kept all of them from my first movie.
12:03Plus, I have a hundred and one hundred and two Dalmatians.
12:05So I have the original Sunset Boulevard costumes.
12:07It's an extraordinary collection, which has already been shown in two different museums,
12:12you know.
12:13You could raise money for charity.
12:15I could.
12:16I could.
12:17But she chooses not to.
12:22Glenn hates charity things.
12:24I could.
12:25I could.
12:26Designers love it because otherwise they're rented out and torn apart and...
12:30Yeah.
12:31Yeah.
12:32The only thing I kept from Harry Potter was a pair of socks.
12:36Because they were nice kind of thick woolen socks.
12:40Yeah.
12:41And you wear them in life.
12:42I do wear them in life.
12:43Is that all you've kept from all the things you've been in?
12:46Yeah, because I don't hang on to the costumes, you know.
12:50Because, Alexander, you like to collect things from films.
12:53You've kept some things, haven't you?
12:55I do have a bloody g-string that I wore in the Northmen framed in my bedroom.
13:00Framed?
13:01Framed.
13:02By the costume department as a wrap gift.
13:04Oh, I see.
13:05You didn't take it into the framers.
13:07Yeah, I got a couple of, um...
13:11I got my fangs from True Blood.
13:14Um, and, uh...
13:17Two heads.
13:18One from Infinity Pool and one from, uh, Murderbot.
13:21Do you hide it, please?
13:22It's just scary.
13:23No, I...
13:24Yeah.
13:25Well, no, I do.
13:26Like, I put them, like...
13:27I tuck them in.
13:28If I have guests staying over, I usually tuck one of them in under the sheets on the guest bed.
13:32Oh.
13:33And then I'll appear...
13:35I'll appear in the middle of the night with the fangs.
13:38Fun.
13:39You're glad he didn't rent the room now.
13:41Yeah.
13:42And, Nicola, that...
13:44Your Barbie dress, did you get to keep that?
13:46Yes.
13:47I didn't, but they made me...
13:48I had a two-second role in Barbie, but Jacqueline Duran, the costume designer, was like,
13:52what do you want to wear?
13:53And she made me a repertoire of a dress of Barbie I had as a little girl.
13:57Oh.
13:58I know, it was amazing.
13:59She was called Sparkalise Barbie.
14:00Mm.
14:01They didn't let me keep it, but I've stole knickers on every set I've ever been.
14:04LAUGHTER
14:05Because I got a text...
14:06That's very useful.
14:07Very useful.
14:08But you go home in them, and then you get a text to be like,
14:10Hi, Nicola.
14:11Well done today.
14:12Could you please bring back the underwear?
14:14Because you've taken all of the characters under, and I'm like, yeah, fair.
14:17Yeah, there's none left.
14:19Actually, we've got a very cute picture of you.
14:21Is your Barbie in this picture?
14:22No, but that's the...
14:24Oh.
14:25I think I was about six, and that's with my Barbie convertible.
14:27Look how bloody delighted I am with myself.
14:30LAUGHTER
14:31I never knew you were rich, Nicola Coughlin.
14:33Oh, yeah, pretty fancy.
14:34Look at you and your Barbie convertible.
14:35But you have red hair there.
14:36It looks a bit red in that, it does, a little bit.
14:38Yeah, yeah.
14:39But yeah, it was, my dad set up the camera in front of the Christmas tree,
14:41and I was posing, thinking, I'm pretty cool.
14:43Yeah.
14:44Oh, you are.
14:45Thanks very much.
14:46I mean, look at the size of that thing.
14:47Yeah, it was huge.
14:48It was amazing.
14:49You could have driven it to school.
14:50LAUGHTER
14:57It just happened to me.
14:58No, no, I know.
14:59I'm clear.
15:00I share with the group.
15:01Yeah.
15:02Now, Glenn Close, you have been in something else very fun.
15:06All's fair.
15:08Because Kim Kardashian and Sarah Paulson were here telling us all about it.
15:12Yes.
15:13That was before it came out.
15:15And...
15:16LAUGHTER
15:18Well, no.
15:19Listen, we can laugh about it, because it's an enormous success,
15:23and there's a season two coming, isn't there?
15:26There is.
15:27Yes.
15:28LAUGHTER
15:29Were you slightly taken aback by the reviews?
15:34I didn't read any of them.
15:35OK.
15:36No.
15:37One doesn't read reviews, especially if you know they're terrible.
15:39I won't say anything then.
15:40LAUGHTER
15:41You must have known something, because you did post this cartoon.
15:44Yes.
15:45Which is critic bunny stew.
15:47LAUGHTER
15:48Yes.
15:49Did you draw this?
15:50I did.
15:51It's very good.
15:53Yeah.
15:54I thought it was appropriate.
15:55LAUGHTER
15:56And pretty good likenesses, you can tell who they all are.
15:58No, you can tell whoever it is.
16:00And talking of critic bunny stew, you had a movie night,
16:03you and the rest of the cast.
16:04Yes.
16:05Yes, because it came out that Kim had not seen Fatal Attraction.
16:10So a lot of you probably haven't either, if you're...
16:12If you haven't, you should.
16:14Yeah.
16:15It's a really good movie.
16:16It's a scary movie.
16:17So everyone said, what, what, what?
16:19So, so Kim said, let's all go over to my mother's house,
16:22in our Skims pajamas, and watch Fatal Attraction.
16:26Oh, there you are.
16:27There we are.
16:28Wow.
16:29LAUGHTER
16:30And we did.
16:32Was it awkward for you, everyone just watching your movie?
16:36Well, I hadn't seen it in a very long time.
16:38LAUGHTER
16:39I mean, memories flew back into my mind,
16:41especially, I didn't know that I showed my breasts so much.
16:45LAUGHTER
16:46I mean, they weren't anything spectacular to see,
16:49but they were visible.
16:51Good.
16:52Good.
16:53Yeah, yeah.
16:54LAUGHTER
16:55It's still streaming, Miriam, you can get it.
16:58I've seen it.
17:00LAUGHTER
17:01But you didn't have an intimacy counsellor then, or...
17:04No.
17:05What do they call them?
17:06Coordinator.
17:07Yeah.
17:08Intimacy coordinator.
17:09They also...
17:10I can't imagine such a thing.
17:11I can't either.
17:12But they also, don't you have those, those,
17:13when you meet somebody and it's called,
17:14if you get along or you want to...
17:15Oh, a chemistry test.
17:16A chemistry read?
17:17Yes.
17:18A chemistry read.
17:19Oh, that's absurd.
17:20Isn't that absurd?
17:21Amazing.
17:22No, I don't understand.
17:23I don't think I'd have a career if I had to have a chemistry read.
17:25LAUGHTER
17:26Oh, that's absurd.
17:27Isn't that absurd?
17:28Amazing.
17:29No, I don't understand.
17:30I don't think I'd have a career if I had to have a chemistry read.
17:33But when you screen test, isn't that like a chemistry read?
17:39Like, do they make you screen test with Michael Douglas?
17:41Oh, my God.
17:42Well, I screen test for Fatal Attraction.
17:44It was a nightmare.
17:45I've never known what to do with my hair.
17:47My hair was long and I didn't know what to do with my hair.
17:49I was like...
17:50And I took a Valium because I was so nervous.
17:52LAUGHTER
17:53So, I was walking across, you know, to the parking lot in L.A.,
17:56kind of like this, and you walked into a room and there's a camera
18:00and there's Michael Douglas.
18:02And I wanted to just...
18:04..crawl into a hole.
18:06LAUGHTER
18:07Did you guys know each other at all?
18:09Or was that the first time you met?
18:10No, no.
18:11And we'd do these scenes and Adrian and I would say,
18:13Hotter! Hotter! Hotter!
18:15What do you do when somebody says,
18:17Hotter! Hotter!
18:18I'd say, fuck off!
18:19LAUGHTER
18:21APPLAUSE
18:22You can see Glenn and a great company of stars in
18:27Wake Up Dead Man and Knives Out Mystery in cinemas now
18:30and coming soon to Netflix.
18:32But now, Alexander Skarsgård brings us what we've all been waiting
18:36for, a gay biker rom-com.
18:38LAUGHTER
18:39It's...
18:40LAUGHTER
18:41Finally!
18:42Finally!
18:43Wow!
18:44It's called Pillion and it's in UK and Irish cinemas from today.
18:48And before we talk about it, let's watch a clip.
18:51This is your character, Ray,
18:53meeting the parents for the first time.
19:01Gosh, you're tall.
19:03Sorry, Peggy?
19:04Peggy?
19:05Peter?
19:06Nice to meet you.
19:07Ray.
19:08How do you do?
19:09Time for a quick drink?
19:11No, thank you.
19:12Not when I'm writing.
19:13No, of course not.
19:14What was I thinking?
19:15Good lad, yeah.
19:17What was something soft?
19:18We'd better get going.
19:20Yeah.
19:21You, er...
19:22You don't sound local, Ray.
19:23Where's home?
19:24Chislehurst.
19:26Chislehurst?
19:27Very nice.
19:28I've never thought of Colin as a Chislehurst sort of person.
19:32Nah, he'll survive.
19:34LAUGHTER
19:36Alright.
19:37Come on then, Colin.
19:38Alright.
19:39You just...
19:40Oh, er, Ray!
19:42Ray, sorry to fuss, but you do have a spare helmet, yes?
19:45Yes.
19:46Only he actually has to wear it.
19:47Dad.
19:48Because, er, he's not getting on without one.
19:50He is not getting on without one.
19:52Great!
19:55Nice bike.
19:57Plain black.
19:58None of this neon crap like you see everywhere nowadays, don't you?
20:02Colin.
20:03Yep.
20:04Um...
20:06Are you sure you know what you're doing?
20:09Yeah, don't worry, Dad.
20:10I'm...
20:11I'm not worried.
20:12I rode a bike when I met Colin's mum.
20:15And I sold it when the twins came along.
20:18Bought a very expensive pram.
20:20What, I suppose you two need to worry about that?
20:23LAUGHTER
20:24APPLAUSE
20:26Douglas Hart and Leslie Sharp there as the parents, and Harry Mellon as Colin.
20:35So, Colin and Ray, tell us about...
20:38Because it is kind of...
20:39It's all sorts of things, but there is a romance at the heart of it.
20:42Yeah, it's a...
20:43It's a sort of a love story.
20:45It's a sub-dom love story.
20:47Ray, my character, spots Colin in a crowded bar
20:51and decides that this could be a potential great sub for him.
20:56So, he...
20:57They go out on a date.
20:58And, uh...
20:59And then, um...
21:01That's the beginning of something quite intense.
21:04Yes, and it is very intense, and it's quite out there,
21:08but there's a kind of a sweetness to it as well.
21:10Well, in a way, it's a coming-of-age story for Harry's character, Colin,
21:16because it is his first relationship,
21:19and he's figuring out what Ray wants out of this relationship,
21:22and then as we get into the movie, 30, 40 minutes into the movie,
21:26he starts to realise that,
21:27well, is this exactly what I want out of a relationship?
21:29And then he's kind of...
21:31Um, has to come to terms with that and deal with that.
21:34So, um...
21:36So, yeah, it's a...
21:38It's a classic...
21:40Dom-com.
21:41But you're not gay, are you?
21:44You're not gay.
21:46Are you?
21:47No, not really.
21:48No.
21:54You do...
21:55You do remember that day, 20 years ago.
21:57I don't know why it's so long ago.
21:58Not at all.
22:00It's just fascinating, because, you know,
22:03I've been enthusiastically gay for a very long time,
22:07and I'm always surprised by fellas who...
22:13who come across it later.
22:16But you...
22:18You...
22:19You're having to act it.
22:21And how did you research it, if you didn't know much about it?
22:24LAUGHTER
22:25Because you do...
22:26We all do research.
22:28Yeah.
22:29I mean, these are all the questions I was going to ask, Alexander.
22:31LAUGHTER
22:32I'm so sorry.
22:34LAUGHTER
22:35APPLAUSE
22:37You know, a lot has been made about the sex in it,
22:42and...
22:43But it's...
22:44But it's interesting.
22:45It is really out there, but it's always...
22:47It is always kind of pivotal to the plot and the characters.
22:50Yeah, I mean, I find sex scenes are only uncomfortable
22:57if they...
22:58If they...
22:59If you don't understand why you're shooting the scene,
23:01if it feels gratuitous, or if you're...
23:03Like, why am I walking around naked in this scene?
23:05It doesn't really serve the story or the narrative.
23:07It doesn't push it forward.
23:08And, yes, there are some graphic scenes in the movie,
23:11but they're all kind of pivotal moments in the relationship
23:15and in Colin's journey.
23:17Um...
23:18So I was quite excited about shooting them,
23:20because, again, it's like they were key components
23:22to the narrative.
23:23You had a wrestling one, and I was like,
23:25you're going to murder him.
23:26LAUGHTER
23:27It was like...
23:28I was like, have you wrestled before?
23:29But then...
23:30And then we ended up making Sweet Love.
23:31You did make Sweet Love.
23:32I mean, it wasn't Sweet Love.
23:33Oh, yeah.
23:34Yeah.
23:35Sweet Love!
23:36But, like, you...
23:37Yeah, I was like, you're going to kill him.
23:38That was the first time we met, actually.
23:39No.
23:40Yeah.
23:41We met two days before we started shooting,
23:43and we rehearsed that wrestling scene, Harry and I.
23:45Wow.
23:46And really got to know each other well.
23:48I would say so, yeah.
23:49Because, again, Harry's character is very inexperienced
23:54and has to learn from Ray in these scenes,
23:58so it wasn't supposed to be good,
24:00and it's confusing so many Harry's,
24:03but Harry Leighton, the writer, director,
24:05also wanted it to feel clumsy
24:07and had a thing which I love,
24:09that, like, often sex scenes are...
24:11It's too kind of polished,
24:13and the lighting is always perfect,
24:15and it's too, like, hands grabbing sheets,
24:17that kind of crap.
24:18Like, what was so great about this, like, he was like...
24:20He's not seeing Bridgerton.
24:21No, no, no, no, no, no.
24:23Fine.
24:24All right, keep going.
24:25Go ahead.
24:26I'm sorry.
24:27Nicholas Sheet grabbing.
24:28Nicholas Sheet grabbing is second to none.
24:30Yeah.
24:31Yeah.
24:32It's like the romanticized version of...
24:33of sex.
24:34Yeah.
24:35And what was great about these scenes
24:37and what made me excited about it was,
24:39yes, they are hot and intense,
24:43but there's also room for awkwardness,
24:45and when people change positions,
24:48it can look clumsy and weird,
24:50and it's kind of fun to leave that in
24:51rather than cut around it,
24:52so it's, like, everything is not
24:54a perfectly choreographed dance.
24:56And why do we think we...
24:57I think we all have an impression
24:58that Swedish people are unshockable,
25:00that they're very kind of bohemian,
25:02or have we just made that up?
25:04I think that is not quite true.
25:07I think it was, um...
25:09But you run around naked a lot, don't you?
25:11Well, my family, yes, but in general...
25:14I think it's from a movie called
25:16Joannifik and Gull from the 60s
25:18that was kind of made a big impact
25:20around the world
25:21because it was, like, sexually very liberating
25:23and, um, and Swedish.
25:25So that kind of...
25:26After that, people were like,
25:27oh, they're so liberated and free.
25:29So you are Swedish, are you?
25:31Um, yes.
25:32Can you do the accent for us?
25:35I'd like to hear that.
25:37I think he has been.
25:38Anything for you, Miriam.
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26:47the only one yeah a bunch of these guys came down to can for the world premiere which was
26:54pretty incredible wow that was the first time i watched the movie with an audience so to
26:59to do that with harry and harry and the guys and the fact that they came down was just meant the
27:05world to me it was an incredible night well it's a really special film uh it's very hard to describe
27:11but i really hope people see it because it's just terrific oh thank you you're great in it it's a
27:16pillion and it's in cinemas now very good
27:23always a treat when miriam margley puts pen to paper and this is a goodie it is called the little book
27:31of miriam it's out now and this is your third book i think it is yes but you've sold almost one and a
27:39half million books amazing it is amazing i feel quite humbled on my computer yeah no i i never
27:51thought i was a writer and some people agree with that but i've been immensely lucky actually and
27:59honestly being on this show helps to sell it
28:04and that's that's why that's why that's why she's here ladies
28:08i thought you were going to say he inspired you when you told me
28:14no i would like to say it's a flogging opportunity
28:17you are a writer also and your books are lovely oh that's right i really urge people to
28:28to buy graham's books and and read them read them people don't read enough you're scrolling and
28:34scrolling read read a book read this book yeah and you you tour the country with your books and you
28:46play these big theatres and this is night after night you do this and do you enjoy it or is it kind
28:51of exhausting i do i mean i think you would agree with that you're an actress and you're an actress
28:57it's wonderful to be in front of an audience you know i'm an old tired lady well hardly a lady really
29:05but i i love being in front of an audience it gives me a buzz a thrill i get energy from it i get joy
29:15from it i really do and i think most actors do i don't like cameras i'm not interested in them but to
29:22be with a live audience to get the response from them and to feel that they're listening to me and
29:28sometimes quite liking what i'm doing that is magical and the book is a kind of a to z of your
29:36thoughts and your stories and there's a story and i know people ask you to tell the story a lot when
29:41you're doing your live shows i think it was when you're on with will i am and you told the story
29:46and you know the one i'm talking about where you're going home in edinburgh late at night and you
29:51there's a man up a tree you assist him and but what you reveal in the book is there's more to this
29:58story i know i didn't i didn't tell it um on television because i felt nobody would believe me
30:06but after i had helped and supported the troop it was a soldier up a tree and miriam
30:13and and i uh he wasn't stuck he was just up a tree he was up a tree i heard the rustles i saw what was
30:20going on asked him to come down i finished him off so to speak very pleasantly and there was no threats
30:29i was wiping my hand in the in the grass
30:35and a voice from the bushes this is this is the new part of the story
30:42when we left this story you were wiping your hand on the grass yes now i heard a voice come uh from
30:49the seat that was just where i'd been and a very nicely dressed gentleman came forward and said um
30:59i couldn't help noticing what you had done for that young man and i wondered if it was at all possible
31:08um whether you would do the same for me and um i said uh i thought to myself well i can't say no
31:22sorry about it but you can't say no
31:25i just felt i couldn't okay
31:28i think you're gonna love pillion but
31:30this could be a scene from
31:35so i did what he asked me to do to right there right there there was nobody else there you know
31:43so off he went and i was wiping my hand in the grass
31:48and lo and behold this is the bit nobody believes but it is true a voice from the same place
31:55said hey miriam and it was someone i knew he was a young student that i had known
32:05in oxford no i went to cambridge but he i met him in oxford because i lived there
32:10and he said listen we're old friends you know i said oh come on
32:17yeah it's fair and he said oh come on miriam you know so i did
32:26three for the price of one beautiful story
32:30it's true it is honestly true
32:35i'm surprised you're not still there miriam
32:37i feel i feel you know you you tell these great stories we love having on the show
32:52but i feel that often it takes away from the fact that you are this great actor
32:57so i'm delighted to say that you are in a short film uh that's coming out in the new year
33:03i am very good in this film it's called a friend of dorothy but the real star is that young boy up
33:12there alistair nchoku yeah he's wonderful it's and my agent has taken him on he's so good so good
33:22and so lovely and he helped me to be good too as did the writer and director lee knight it's just a
33:30wonderful film so it i believe it's going to be on one of those streaming channels it is very soon
33:37yes i can't tell you which one because it's a secret but i know it's the first of january
33:42on the first of january yes rush to see it because it's really wonderful it is it's a very very sweet
33:47film and you're both so good and it's gorgeous absolutely gorgeous uh we look forward to that
33:51and don't forget the little book of miriam that is out now okay
33:59good news everyone ms nicola coughlin is returning to the london stage in the playboy of the western
34:05world at the national theater from the 4th of december 4th of december oh that's next week i know
34:11how are you all set you ready well we did our first sort of run this today in in the room was our last
34:17day in the rehearsal room and they said you know two or three people people will be coming in and
34:20there was sort of three rows on either side of the room and i went oh no and it was terrifying but
34:24like you said very exciting to have an audience there to perform to and yeah it's very very exciting
34:30and obviously the playboy of the western world classic play i'm saying if people don't know if
34:34it's somehow passed them by who are you in it what's it about so i play a young lady called peguine mike
34:39and it's set in the west of ireland in 1907 and there was big riots when this play came out
34:44because um they talked about women's shifts so women's underwear in it and people were like no
34:49irish women you know they would never talk about underwear we couldn't be so crazy and then they
34:52tore up the theater to prove how not badly behaved um so yeah so she runs this pub in the country and
34:59everything's sort of going along a bit humdrum and then a young good-looking man walks in and everyone
35:04sort of goes well who are you where did you come from and they barrage of questions and then he sort of
35:09said leave me alone i killed my father and instead of being horrified they'll go that's amazing
35:15that's really cool and exciting and we all fancy you yeah and you've reunited with dairy girls co-star
35:22siobhan sweeney have you ever been on stage with her before i never have but she is the queen of ireland
35:27we sort of play love rivals for christie played by the lovely anna hardwick in the middle which is great
35:32fun because my character we did a show together called dairy girls and she was i know that yes i
35:38fucking do oh my goodness thanks very much um brilliant all of you oh thank you thank you very
35:46much but my character in the show was very scared of her character because she was a nun very scary
35:51nun but in this were rivals so we get to go toe to toe which is great fun and here's the thing it's a
35:55return to live theater for you yes yeah and so you'll be in front of a live audience and people
36:00are talking about how great that is yeah but it's also quite it can be quite intimidating because
36:05audiences have changed i feel well it's absolutely terrifying i mean i've done theater before a lot
36:09of direct address theater where you're just speaking it out to the audience and you have interesting
36:13things when that happens because people assume that you can't see them and you really can sometimes
36:18and i did a show once where i looked up in the audience and a man just took out a lunch box
36:21and just started eating like a microwave shepherd's pie and i was like right this doesn't make what i'm
36:26doing quite difficult but um so please if you come to the national just like don't eat the shepherd's
36:31pie before or after that would help like a lot and the phones thing is phone's thing oh yeah it
36:37illuminates your face i stopped the show once yeah did you yes i was doing sunset boulevard on broadway
36:43yeah and you know you prepare prepare and you have make a great entrance and it was a flash flash flash
36:48flash flash flash and as you're doing this song you're thinking what am i gonna do about this what am i
36:52doing about this and i walked to the end of the stage and i said we can either have a photo shoot
36:57or we can do the show you decide yeah
37:07alexander scarsgard have you done any theater yeah in sweden years ago it's probably almost well 15 20
37:15years ago now wow no temptation to get back on the boards it's a lot of work my friend it's a lot of work
37:22so no and you come from this big acting dynasty the the scars guards uh to your dad stellen but then
37:30how many of your siblings are yeah oh he is a good actor oh he really is my favorite scars guard yeah
37:41i didn't mean that in a nasty way no no i absolutely mean it yeah wonderful but i heard you were very
37:47jealous of your father being in mama mia oh god i mean who who wouldn't be i mean look at that
37:55it was yeah he was just obviously a big of a fan but was that in the film of mama mia yes
38:00oh what what it's a great movie have you not seen it i did see it yeah it's not disappointed i thought it
38:08was dreadful it's not for my father's performance no no i i don't remember your father's before
38:15but it really wasn't to my taste i think what i uh was jealous of was
38:29was the experience because i remember like he was having the most fun he's ever had i think they all
38:34did they're all the people in it and that's why that's also kind of why i appreciate the movie so
38:40much because you can tell it was kind of infectious like how much fun they were all having and yeah
38:45like my father is not a great singer but he was just belting it out and laughing and it just looked
38:50like it was a joyous experience i'm glad he had a good time have some notes i hesitate to mention
39:03nicholas new film but no you haven't seen this uh mama mia three no no no you've got it this is such
39:10a posh it's a kid's film but it's a posh one uh the magic faraway tree yes it's you who else it's
39:16amazing cast ridiculous cast claire foy andrew garfield rebecca ferguson uh jennifer saunders michael palin
39:24um it's honestly it was amazing i mean i read the script and had no idea who was involved with it but i
39:29thought it was simon farnaby who wrote paddington 2 which is one of the best movies ever in the world
39:35yeah and i was like desperate to be involved and yeah it was just a joy and it's a lot of people's
39:41favorite you know childhood book i'd never read it but i love meeting grown-ups they're like oh my god
39:46i got to play a fairy and i got lovely lovely ears well i think they've got a picture of you have we
39:51oh yeah there you are good ears yeah great ears it was so much fun and there's three gorgeous kids
39:58who lead us and we got lots of magical lands and it was just a joy i loved it so much and when's that
40:03out it's out in march okay yes okay but the trailer's out very soon they won't tell me when but soon yeah
40:09well uh just a quick reminder you can see nicola cochland in the playboy of the western world
40:15at the national from next thursday good luck to you right it is time for music this brit award-winning
40:25artist sold over 20 million records worldwide and now after a seven-year break she is back with
40:32a new album here performing the single h-a-p-p-y it's jessie jay
40:48oh me myself and i ain't no place to hide all i got is time
40:56oh i'm screaming out of sea fish tell me that you keep it
41:01i don't want to i don't want to lie
41:04oh i can take it
41:07try to fake it
41:09my smile
41:12oh
41:13make believe it ain't the meaning
41:18of life
41:19i'm gonna laugh till i cry
41:22dang it's i know why cause i'm h-a-b-b-y
41:25yes
41:26hate you
41:27h-a-b-b-y
41:28why i laugh till i cry
41:30dang it's i know why cause i'm h-a-b-b-y
41:34h-a-b-b-y
41:36why
41:37rainbows on the ceiling
41:39serotonin heathen
41:41windowed to my soul
41:44can't later stop me feeling
41:46right awake and drinking
41:48but you already know
41:50oh i can take it
41:54time to fake it
41:56taking my smile
42:00oh
42:02make believe it ain't the meaning
42:06of life
42:08i love till i cry
42:09come on
42:10dance i know why
42:12cause i'm h-a-b-b-y
42:14yes
42:14h-a-b-b-y
42:16I love till i cry
42:18dance i know why
42:20h-a-b-b-y
42:21come on boys
42:22h-a-b-b-y
42:24let's do it
42:27come on dance with me
42:29come on man
42:39i'm gonna lay till i cry
42:42dance i know why
42:44i'm h-a-b-b-y
42:46h-a-b-b-y
42:49i'm gonna dance
42:51h-a-b-b-y
42:54h-a-b-b-y
42:57whoo
43:02h-a-b-b-y
43:05wow
43:07thank you
43:09whoo
43:13jesse jay everybody
43:16and her band
43:17that was gorgeous
43:18come on over and do
43:22so good to see you
43:23how are you
43:25welcome back to the show
43:26thank you
43:27thank you
43:28so much for that
43:29hi
43:29that is nicola
43:30sirian
43:31thanks
43:31under
43:32he named
43:33that
43:33thank you
43:33hello
43:35hello
43:35hello
43:37hello
43:37lovely to see you
43:39i'm sure you did it
43:40okay
43:40lovely
43:42thank you so much for that performance
43:44it was fantastic
43:44oh you're welcome
43:45just loved it
43:45h-a-b-b-y
43:47that is off the latest album
43:49don't tease me with a good time
43:52which is out today
43:53it is
43:53it's in the world
43:54yeah yeah yeah
43:55congratulations
43:56yeah
44:02because because time does all these strange things
44:05yeah
44:06i had no idea
44:07it's been seven years
44:08it's been too long it's very rude
44:10yeah i'm so sorry to
44:11eight on the price tag and then i just disappeared no it's just life just happens doesn't it
44:16and i suppose the big question is you know how are you feeling because i know you have been through a ringer with health things and all sorts
44:23um this has been wild yeah so i'm good i've just i've just recovered from breast cancer
44:28wow
44:29wow
44:29wow
44:30thank you
44:31wow
44:32wow
44:33did you
44:33i never know how to react to
44:36yeah i do everything's with jokes so sorry if i say things that feel a bit awkward but yeah
44:40i'm just yeah no it's good yeah it's good i've got one really hard boob and an album out
44:46you could ask for anything more exactly i'm just i'm just happy to be here honestly yeah yeah yeah yeah
44:54yeah and what has it been like kind of getting up in front of audiences again and doing performances
44:58again honestly everywhere i've been it's like it's like i've been de-iced and i've come out of the
45:05natural history museum you haven't been around for years and i'm like i'm back i don't feel any
45:13different to be honest and since we last saw you you've done this thing which i feel like not enough
45:19people know about oh no so no you went to china you went to china and yeah they know about it they
45:26know about it you went to china and you did this show called singer yes and so it's a talent show
45:33yes but it's it's a talent show on a scale you've never heard so how many people look
45:40actually in the same so i went my management i was i was writing my last album 100 years ago
45:46and they were like this tv show want to like have you on and i was like just say yes and they're like
45:52do you know know the details and i was like no just i need a shake up just say yes so i fly over to
45:57china thinking i'm a guest on a tv show no no i'm a contestant no and i'm competing against other chinese
46:06artists that are massive and fully established like do stadiums and it's 500 million viewers a week
46:11no yeah the final so i did 13 weeks 13 episodes it was the most amazing experience of my life it was
46:18a reality tv show i had to sing in mandarin please don't look that up and the final was 1.2 billion
46:26people what isn't that incredible insane so i i mean me and china like i go back all the time
46:32you were a contestant yes did you win i did wow i was so scared i sang i sang i will always love you
46:44by in houston and i people have asked me to sing that song a lot like growing up and i was like no
46:48i only want to do it and i feel like it's the right moment and i just felt i don't know why i chose to
46:54do it in front of 1.2 billion people live but in a dress where i look literally like a sparkly penguin i could
46:59not walk and i was just like walk into the mic um but it was life-changing it was the most amazing
47:04experience yeah wow congratulations and uh people can see you uh on tour here yes from is it next april
47:10april i'm going on tour in yeah in all the time i'm just singing anywhere if you i'll be singing a lot of
47:16places yeah i'll come over to your house i'll sing yeah yeah yeah no literally listen it's so great to
47:22see you thank you thank you for that amazing performance and good luck with the tour and the
47:26album jesse j everybody thank you thank you my love thank you that is nearly it but before we go just
47:34time for a quick visit to the big red chair who have we got hello hi hi i have high hopes for you
47:40there's a spark in your eye uh what's your name allison allison lovely and uh where are you from allison
47:45devon devon lovely and what are you doing devon allison um i'm a partnership development manager for a
47:51financial services network business i almost said that okay off you go off you go with the story
47:58alison back in the 70s growing up as a child with a strict mother um we were always taught not to leave
48:03any food on our plate and it was christmas day christmas dinner and as usual you would have sprouts
48:09on your christmas dinner which i hate um so everyone had left the the dining room table and i was left with
48:15my plate which had just had the sprouts left on there um we had a jack russell um terrier called
48:21timmy at the time and i thought well it would be quite nice no one's going to see i can put the plate
48:25on the floor and the dog will eat the sprouts and i'll get away with it i put the plate on the floor
48:30the dog licked the gravy off the sprouts but left the sprouts but unfortunately i couldn't admit to the
48:36fact that i just got to try to get the dog to eat the sprouts so i still had to eat the sprouts
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