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Milo Ventimiglia Talks Exploring Jack's Story on 'This Is Us,' Show Ending After Season 6 | In Studio
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"I believe when there is a moment to send something off the right way," Ventimiglia said. "Knowing what I know already, I’m looking forward to what the audience gets to experience with the closing of the show, which is still three seasons later."
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Hey, I'm Milo Ventimiglia, and you're watching In Studio with The Hollywood Reporter.
00:07
Thank you so much for dropping by. Happy to be here, man. Thanks, seriously, thanks for being here. Yeah, you got it, Brian.
00:12
Now, Jack is praised so much as this hero, this beloved figure.
00:16
How do you handle that pressure in living up to this guy? Jack is, he's a hard man to live up to for
00:22
myself, for husbands around the world, for fathers around the world.
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I get a lot of bereavement from people who are like, man, you're just like, you're ruining my marriage
00:31
because everybody sees Jack, and they're trying, like, I gotta be Jack. And I'm like, no, man,
00:35
just be yourself because you're real. You're a real human being. You can really, truly impact
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your wife, your family, your community, whatever you choose to put your positivity towards,
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you can actually make an impact that way. That's a great way to put it. I know, it sounds like a
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very Jack thing to say, right? No, yeah, it was a Milo thing to say. Very much so. This past season,
00:53
we see kind of more of what really shaped his character and him as a father with his time in
00:58
Vietnam. And you said that Jack doesn't really see the war as heroic. Can you kind of talk about
01:03
that and explain that? I mean, war is a pretty horrible thing. And, you know, Jack's purpose
01:08
of being in Vietnam was to find Nicky, was to find his brother. So beyond that, he became responsible
01:16
for this team of guys that were under his command, where he lost one of them. And, you know, heroism
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isn't something that Jack strives for. He's a man that jumps into action. But, you know, heroics,
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he's not in a war to be heroic, you know. And war is, it's a terrible, terrible thing.
01:40
Now, you said yourself, you almost entered the Navy at 18, and your dad served two tours in
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Vietnam. Looking back, what do you remember most about what your dad would say about the
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war or not say? And how did he translate that to Jack's story?
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You know, I'd heard stories of my father's, you know, just talking to me as a son about
01:56
his early 20s and his time in Vietnam and in the service. Friends that have been in wars
02:03
and whatnot, I've heard from them. But for me, you know, it's like, I have the good fortune
02:07
of having a road map. I know where it's going to go because we have scripts. So if anything,
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what I try to do in the conversations with my father, with my friends, is to just understand
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the emotional impact of war and what that really does to a person and what they bring home from
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that experience. Because a lot of guys these days, women that serve, they see horrible things
02:34
and they bring it home. And how are you to unpack it? So, you know, Jack of that era, you know,
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those guys, they didn't unpack it. They just hold it up in a concrete wall, compartmentalize it.
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Just how forward does that.
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Exactly. Just like hung on to it.
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Now, Dan Fogelman brought in author and Vietnam vet Tim O'Brien. Why was it important to have
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him there and kind of get in Jack's story, right? And what were those conversations like?
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I think there was, there was a lot of direct correlation to Tim's experience in Vietnam
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to Jack's. There was a lot of what they were wanting to tell story-wise, they, the writers,
03:15
about Jack's story that was brought up from Tim. You know, I mean, our writers room, crazy
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talented. We don't have any, any veterans there. We have no one who served. So it's bringing
03:26
in someone like Tim, who is not only a veteran of Vietnam, but also just an amazing storyteller.
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He's a storyteller first and foremost. It, it had a great impact on the direction we took
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Jack on specificity. There were a lot of things that, you know, I would, I would sit and I would
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talk to Tim about, about his time and relating it to what Jack was going through and just like
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the details. And what specifically was it? Um, a lot of it was experience, understanding
03:56
the, the, the weight of being responsible for other people in a war. Um, the emotions
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that happened that you kind of really have to just clamp down when you're in battle, when
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you lose someone, when you have to complete a mission and move on, um, all the way down
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to, you know, where we tucked our bony cap when we were wearing our helmets, you know?
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So it was, uh, it was a pleasure. It was really like a great honor having him around and just
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having the perspective, you know, the lens of what he experienced when he was in Vietnam,
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but also he's a storyteller first and foremost. So he was just part of our group.
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Now you filmed in Vietnam, which must've been incredible. What were some of your favorite
04:39
memories from filming there? Um, mostly it was just, it was the people, you know, I'm pretty
04:44
amazed that that country having been through such a horrible war is, is still so positive
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and loving and inviting. And, and, you know, that was the one thing my dad used to tell
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me about when he was in Vietnam in his early twenties was he couldn't understand how such
05:00
a horrible war could be happening to such a beautiful people. And, you know, to still
05:06
be over there and see that, you know, people are walking around holding hands positive when
05:10
they went through such a horrible conflict. It was, uh, it was really striking, really
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striking to see.
05:15
Now, looking back to when you first joined This Is Us, when did you personally know that
05:19
it would be this hit that it is today?
05:20
Reading that first script, I knew that it was special. And then when I saw it cut
05:26
together, you know, with score, with final edit and beautiful picture, it was like, oh,
05:31
this, this is a really beautiful show. And then beyond that, as the scripts kept coming
05:36
in and we were looking at everything, it's like, wow, these scripts just get better and
05:38
better and better. And, you know, being someone who watches TV, you just go, oh, well, this
05:44
is good. This makes sense that people are going to watch it. And so then when the audience
05:47
grew and it kind of turned into this, you know, big, uh, snowball phenomenon, kind of like rolling
05:53
down the hills, like why it wasn't surprising because the, the stories were so great and the
05:59
execution was really, really wonderful.
06:02
People have such an attachment to the show and to Jack. What have been some of the reactions
06:07
that have stuck out to you about people's reactions to Jack and the show?
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Um, for me, mostly it's, it's the inspiration they get from him. You know, Jack, for all his
06:18
greatness, he also is just, he's a normal guy. You know, he's not a Marvel comic character.
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He's not saving the world. He's looking out for his family.
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Saving his family.
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Yeah. That to me, I think it's something that we as citizens of the world kind of need right
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now. We just need good guys. We need good guys to look up to. We need, we kind of need like
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attainable goals. And I think someone that is, um, kind like Jack is, that is strong like Jack is, that
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is supportive and compassionate like Jack is, you know, any of the shortcomings he has, you know,
06:56
his, his battling with alcoholism, sometimes maybe, you know, his viewpoint, like on relationships,
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it's like, well, he, he's a kind man. He's a good man. So I think I'm always encouraged when I see
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people that are, he's very, he's very, he's very human, but I'm always encouraged when I see people
07:14
saying like, uh, I want to be a dad like Jack. I want to be a husband like Jack. I want to be a
07:18
friend like Jack. And I was like, that's pretty cool.
07:20
You said you got emotional also while watching. Sometimes. Yeah. This past season, were there
07:24
any specific scenes that you got more emotional for? Um, man, usually anything having to do with
07:32
the kids. Um, it's, it's funny. Cause I, when I watched the show, I, I watch it as an audience,
07:38
but I also kind of watch it as Jack. So when I see the adult kids going through things, I'm like,
07:43
oh man, but you know, Kate, if you could just Kevin Randall, if you could, you know, so those are the
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things that kind of like grab at me when, you know, um, when Kevin's going through his struggles,
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when Kate is going through her struggles, when Randall's going through his, it's just like,
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you know, that, that stuff just kind of breaks my heart. One of the things that stuck out to me
08:02
was the boxing kind of motif that he explored with Randall. Yeah. Can you talk about what,
08:06
what stood out to you about that episode specifically and kind of this motif of Jack being this fighter?
08:11
Um, you know, it's funny. I feel like Jack got into boxing because he was trying to
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stamp down another need, which was alcohol for him. And it kind of turned into something different.
08:24
What I love about Jack, he's, he's strong in the right way. He's not overbearing, but he's,
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he kind of feels like this rock in an ocean that's just kind of like sticking out and just like slowly,
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you know, is, is taking, changing shape, being impacted by the ocean around him. But then he's still a rock.
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He's still just like this solid piece of immovable, immovable object that is just sitting there for all the time.
08:53
Jack the Rock.
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Jack the Rock or, you know, 54 years of his life.
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You yourself boxed. Is that, did that influence that part of the story at all or no?
09:00
Um, no, I don't, I don't think that, uh, informed one or the other. I think it was helpful
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that I boxed. They were like, Hey, do you, uh, do you need a boxing trainer? I was like,
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I think I'm pretty good. Yeah. I'm like, I think I'm okay. I'm okay. You know,
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said very humbly because there are many better fighters than me.
09:18
What are your thoughts on Rebecca and Miguel ending up together? And what do you think Jack
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would think about that?
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I mean, I think Jack and Miguel kind of had the conversation, you know, I know close friends of
09:27
mine. They always say to me like, Hey, if anything happens to me, like make sure my family's okay.
09:31
I think that's, it's an honorable thing. It's a noble thing. And also, you know, death is the
09:37
ultimate finality. And when someone dies, you know, I think those that are left behind need
09:44
to find love and commonality. And I think it's great that Rebecca and Miguel found each other
09:51
in, in a way of companionship and, and romance and any of that.
09:56
At the end of season three, we see Rebecca, Nikki by Rebecca's side. And you've talked about
10:01
kind of having trouble exploring the relationship between Jack and Nikki. Can you talk about
10:05
that?
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Um, I didn't have trouble exploring it, but I mean, you know, it's all out of order because
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we're now, we, we were three seasons in filming stuff that had impacted the Jack that we'd
10:16
already shot, but it was all brand new. So for me, you know, I was always, I was, I was a little
10:23
upset that Jack never got to repair things with his brother. Um, but at the same time, you know,
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I, Jack is a man of a certain era that I think held onto, like we were saying, compartmentalize
10:36
those emotions. And he just probably couldn't deal with it. Didn't want to also because he
10:40
didn't want it to disrupt what his life was with Rebecca and the kids. I'm happy to see
10:45
that Kevin reached out and found Nikki. And it seems like it paid off. And because that
10:51
last image we saw with Randall walking into the room with her, Rebecca, and Nikki sitting
10:57
at the bed, Nikki looked pretty good. Yeah. So his life turned around. With the show ending with
11:03
season six, what do you think you'll miss most about the show and about playing Jack? We have
11:08
some time, but no, you know, for me, it's always, it's the crew, you know, the, the crew that is
11:14
there every day. They're the ones that I think are the real flesh of the show. They're the ones
11:21
holding it all together. They're the ones that are, you know, day in and day out. They're,
11:26
they're the living, breathing entity, the family of what we do. Like it would be a completely
11:32
different show if we had a completely different crew. So for me, it's always the people.
11:38
Do you see it being a satisfying ending for viewers?
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Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I think so. You know, I mean, sad truth that reality is,
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you know, everything ends, everything ends, you know, but I believe that when there is
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a moment to send something off the right way, it's almost like into old age, you know, you
11:58
can honor the story and the characters and all of that. So knowing what I know already,
12:05
I'm like, I'm looking forward to what the audience gets to experience with the closing of the
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show, which is still like three seasons later. It's so far away. Next up for you is The Art of
12:15
Racing in the Rain, which everyone's really excited about. Can you kind of talk about that
12:18
and what viewers can expect? So Art of Racing in the Rain, it's based on a book written by Garth
12:23
Stein. It's about this race car driver who has this dog and the film takes place over the course of
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the dog's life from puppy until he's old. And the film is narrated by the dog as he watches his owner
12:34
going through life, meeting a woman, falling in love, having a family, auto racing, and then
12:40
also the hard times that really befall him. Yeah, it was great. It was a great experience,
12:45
good film. You know, Amanda Seyfried plays my wife and a lot of great other actors in the film
12:51
and Kevin Costner, voice of the dog. And yeah, it's just, it feels like one of those films,
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like if you, if you like This Is Us, you'll really like the Art of Racing in the Rain. It's a very human
13:03
story. For you as an actor and producer, what other stories are you looking to tell? What are you excited
13:08
most about kind of exploring ahead? Um, man, I think just, just telling stories, having the
13:16
opportunity to tell stories, you know, it's less subject matter for me. It's more, again, people
13:20
that I work with, you know, I've got friends that are talented writers or friends that are talented
13:25
directors, actors, whatever, and just kind of piling them together and saying, Hey, let's go tell the
13:29
story of this, or let's go tell the story of that. But subject matter, you know, I look kind of look
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forward to all of it. You joked with us, um, recently about kind of showing up to a Batman
13:41
and Robin casting call. Oh yeah. Would you ever want to play Batman? Is that something
13:45
you're going to want to play Batman? I think I'm too old now. Oh, you're not. Yeah, I think
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I'm too old now. I think you can do it. I think I can do it. I think other people think I'm too old
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now. It's okay. Thank you so much for being here. Yeah, you got it, brother. Seriously, you got it, man.
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