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00:00Can you recall the moment you found out about what had happened?
00:12Well, I found her.
00:13I mean, I was the one that walked in the room and found her laying on the floor.
00:20I lost it.
00:21I can't hardly speak about it.
00:23She was all I had left.
00:27This just wasn't supposed to happen.
00:30It wasn't supposed to happen.
00:32I hold these secrets inside my bones.
00:40How long can I keep them from my shadows?
00:47I was telling my girls about this case.
00:50She's a pretty girl.
00:51Yeah.
00:52She's young.
00:53She's living her life.
00:54And because she's out trying to meet people, her risk factor goes up.
00:59And she ends up being dead.
01:00Steve and I are here in Arkansas to look into the 1997 murder of a sweet, bubbly mother and
01:07hairdresser named Tracy Holloway, who was murdered on the night of her 30th birthday.
01:13So she turns 30 years old and she goes out to celebrate like anybody would.
01:17And then we're thinking the murder happened sometime after midnight on the 27th, right?
01:22Clearly after midnight.
01:24What did you think when you were reading it?
01:25That is a brutal homicide.
01:27She has got skull fractures, her neck is cut, she dies of manual strangulation.
01:33You talk about overkill.
01:34Holy man.
01:36I've been doing this a long time and this crime looks personal.
01:39There's no signs of sexual assault, but everything about this scene points to jealousy and rage.
01:43When I read this case, I actually read it thinking, wow, this is a whodunit.
01:49There's three men involved and I really couldn't figure out as I turned each page, which one did it.
01:55Big red flag.
01:56She's going through a divorce and she's out starting to strut her stuff.
02:00And you know that's not going to sit low with the soon to be ex-husband.
02:02I think that he just loses it.
02:05That's not who I'm looking at in my head.
02:07She's dating a new guy who's younger than her and they just broke up.
02:11I don't know. I know we don't always agree. I'll tell you that much.
02:15Steve thinks he knows who killed Tracy.
02:17I've got my own theory.
02:19And there's a third suspect involved who could prove us both wrong.
02:22But we need to uncover the truth, whoever it was, and get justice for Tracy.
02:27She's not doing anything wrong.
02:29She just happens to be in the middle of a bunch of male egos and here we are.
02:35It's going to be a tough week. You don't agree with me again.
02:37If you're right, I'll admit it.
02:38I've just got a problem thinking it's going to be the husband right now this time.
02:43Hello.
02:43Detective B.J. Rouse.
02:44Nice to meet you. I'm Kelly.
02:46Lieutenant, welcome.
02:47Hey, Lieutenant.
02:47Hi, Haley.
02:48Thank you for inviting us, Lieutenant. We appreciate it.
02:50We're so glad you are here.
02:51We're hoping to get somewhere and help you out this week.
02:54I read your police report honestly like a page going,
02:57oh my God, what's going to happen next?
02:59Right.
02:59It's crazy.
03:00It's a lot going on, yeah.
03:02Probably a lot more you need to tell us too, right?
03:04Yeah, absolutely.
03:04Okay, let's go.
03:06Tracy Hallway's death shocked this whole town.
03:09I talked to people at the time and said they're changing out the locks on their houses.
03:14It just wasn't something that you would think in small town Searcy, Arkansas.
03:19B.J., you're pretty young. How old are you?
03:21I'm 35.
03:21And you're even younger. How old are you?
03:2325.
03:24Wow.
03:24Is there anybody else besides y'all doing it?
03:26On the Hallway case?
03:27Uh-huh.
03:27Not actively on the hunt, just me and her.
03:30This case is actually 28 years old, so I was not even born when Tracy died.
03:34But to me, that doesn't matter.
03:36People deserve justice.
03:37That's what we're here for.
03:39If that's my mother or sister that got beaten to death, I wouldn't stop.
03:43And so we have to do the same thing.
03:44We can't stop.
03:46Tracy was a 30-year-old hairdresser that worked here in town.
03:51She recently had been separated from her husband, Larry, and she was a mother.
03:55Was that Larry's son?
03:57Yes.
03:58And he's two at the time?
04:00She was a friendly person.
04:01Everybody loved her.
04:03And on June 26, she was going out to celebrate her birthday with a friend and shoot some pool.
04:08And then, of course, on the morning of the 27th, she didn't show up for work.
04:1330 years old on her birthday.
04:14Yeah.
04:15Tracy had a young son she was crazy about.
04:18She had just gotten a brand new place of her own, and she was just starting to see other people.
04:23She was murdered just when she was starting over again.
04:27At approximately 9.43 a.m., the patrolman responded to the scene.
04:31When he enters the room, he finds Tracy on the floor.
04:34She was wearing a half-night gown with a pair of panties on.
04:37She had suffered quite a bit of blunt force trauma to her head, shoulders, her abdomen area, her chest.
04:42Her throat was slit, and she was strangled.
04:46Wow.
04:46That's a lot.
04:47Tracy was beaten with an unknown blunt object, possibly a tool with a tubular handle.
04:53Her throat was likely cut with a pocket knife.
04:56Neither weapon was ever recovered, and there were no useful fingerprints or DNA identified.
05:00They immediately start looking for suspects.
05:03Steve Webb, he's the last one to see her alive.
05:06He's the one actually with her that night.
05:09Right.
05:09Tracy went out to the Elks Lodge that night, celebrated her 30th birthday, and she met Steve Webb.
05:15Steve started buying some drinks, and they started shooting pool, and they're having a good time.
05:19They stayed until closing time, and then she leaves the bar that night.
05:23His problem is he keeps changing his story.
05:25Sure.
05:25What's the most important part he left out of the story in the beginning?
05:28That he even entered the residence.
05:30That he went to that house.
05:31Yes.
05:31Yes.
05:32Steve Webb initially told the investigators that he last saw Tracy when she left the bar that night.
05:37But witnesses that later came forward said they saw Steve's car hauler leaving her house in the early morning hours.
05:46So he was re-questioned, and he changed the story.
05:49According to Steve's testimony, they decided to go back to Tracy's house.
05:53They had some sweet tea on the porch, talked for a while.
05:56He said that they said goodnight to each other, and then he left and went home.
06:00As a cop, you think what when you're having to drag all this out of somebody?
06:04They're guilty.
06:04Why lie?
06:06For motive, is there anything that would have made Stephen Webb mad?
06:10I mean, how much was he thinking he was going to get lucky?
06:13She wasn't sexually assaulted.
06:14But what if he thought he was going to get lucky?
06:17Right.
06:18Steve Webb changed his story several times.
06:21This is a major red flag.
06:22We clearly need to look at him, but we also need to look at the other men in Tracy's life.
06:27Larry Hallway.
06:28Separated husband?
06:30They've been separated for months.
06:32He's an extremely violent man, Larry was.
06:34How do you know that?
06:35Not long after the court finds him guilty of felony battery against his son,
06:42and he's adopted by the grandparents.
06:45Wow.
06:46Tracy's husband has a history of abuse.
06:49In addition to physically abusing his and Tracy's son,
06:52his first wife also divorced him for abusing her and threatening to kill her.
06:56How's their son doing today?
06:58He is currently at the White County Jail for two counts of capital murder,
07:04where a woman was also beat to death.
07:08Good God.
07:11Well, I guess if you're two years old and your mother's murdered like that,
07:15it's going to mess you up.
07:17Absolutely.
07:17Wow.
07:18Tracy's son has not been convicted, but it's pretty tragic to appreciate how his father's abuse
07:26and the murder of his mother at such a young age may have contributed to his alleged criminal behavior.
07:32What else about Larry needs to go up here?
07:34I think how the day starts.
07:36You know, he shows up to her work.
07:37Yep.
07:37You know, it's her birthday, so he brings her flowers, and he wants to take her out for her birthday,
07:43and she goes, no, he gets turned down publicly, and I think that really gets to him.
07:47So that night, he's sitting there wondering, where is she?
07:50Where is she?
07:50Where is she?
07:51He's watching the kids.
07:52Tracy declined to go out with Larry that night, but he did agree to watch their son for her.
07:58At the time, Larry was sharing an apartment with his brother, Alan.
08:02And then later that night, at 1.36, Tracy calls over to where Alan and Larry are both staying.
08:09And Alan is his roommate at the time.
08:11Right.
08:12So in my mind, it's her calling saying, hey, I'm not coming tonight.
08:16I'm going to bed.
08:17She basically stands him up, and she probably sounds like she's had something to drink.
08:21Right.
08:22Larry's initial report to law enforcement was that Tracy was supposed to come over to his house that night
08:27before 10.30 or 11 o'clock p.m. to pick up their son.
08:31She doesn't call until 1.30 a.m.
08:32He can tell she's been drinking, and he tells her to stay home.
08:37My theory is that something about that call enraged him.
08:41But I'm going to try to keep an open mind.
08:42All right, so now we've got George Johnson II up here.
08:47Would she call him a boyfriend?
08:48How long they date?
08:49I'd say weeks.
08:50Weeks?
08:50She broke up with him about a week before?
08:52Yes.
08:53We know they had sex the Saturday previous.
08:55Saturday, so like four days earlier?
08:58George worked over at the Bryce Corporation at that time.
09:02He was a slitter operator.
09:03His job as a slitter would be to slice potato chip bags in different wrappers for different candies.
09:09Not access to very many tools.
09:11Yeah.
09:11I care about that, maybe more than y'all do, because of all these injuries from some kind of odd, not your typical murder weapon.
09:19And he's the guy up here that's got the clearest possession of that kind of a weapon.
09:25George Johnson and Tracy broke up just days before her murder.
09:29When police went to question him, they noticed some suspicious scratches on his arms and a burn pile at his house.
09:37He claimed that he had been working on his property and burning debris.
09:41George is the suspect that I have the most questions about.
09:44I thought it was a little odd on this Thursday night, this 24-year-old man is going to a bookstore.
09:51Going to the bookstore.
09:52Get a book.
09:52How far is the book's a million from the Elks Lodge?
09:56Less than a mile.
09:57Yes.
09:57So his girlfriend that he had sex with four nights earlier is at the Elks Lodge partying.
10:01If he was so hot after her, there would have been phone calls back and forth.
10:06There's nothing.
10:07I think you're right, Sue.
10:08I just don't think he cared.
10:09I don't think he cared.
10:10But why did they have sex and then she breaks up with them?
10:13That's weird.
10:15There's your hemorrhoid right there.
10:16Larry Holloway.
10:17That guy is an asshole.
10:19You got a couple of scratch marks here.
10:21You don't have any nicks on him.
10:22We have a violent ex-husband, a boyfriend that she had just recently broken up with,
10:28and a man who came to her house that very night whose story keeps changing.
10:33This was a blitz style of a hat.
10:34Okay, but there's a little bit of nicks on him.
10:37Those are not deep scratch marks.
10:38No, they're not.
10:39She's 30.
10:40She'd have been fighting like a wounded bear.
10:42God, I hope we can figure this out.
10:52She was a hard-working girl.
10:57She was very funny.
10:59She had a great personality.
11:02She just lit up the room.
11:04When you lose a child like that, there's nothing ever that's going to take this hole out of
11:12my heart.
11:17Hello, Ms. Dawn.
11:18I'm Kelly.
11:18Nice to meet you.
11:19Thank you so much.
11:20You're welcome.
11:21Tracy was the light of my life.
11:24She was very independent, always, even when she was little.
11:28What kind of mom was Tracy?
11:30A real good mom.
11:31She was, of course, a busy mom, just like all young mothers.
11:35She worked all day, so she wanted to spend the time with him at night.
11:38She was my best friend.
11:41It's been devastating.
11:44It's like I've got a huge hole right here.
11:48She was just a joy.
11:49I want her back.
11:51That's what I want.
11:52Parents aren't supposed to bury their children.
11:55I just want justice for Tracy.
11:57There's somebody out there that is the killer.
12:00Did Tracy tell you anything about Larry coming by the shop that day, wanting to take her out
12:04that night?
12:06No.
12:06She kind of looked for George to come, because she had gone out with George on his birthday
12:12a few weeks prior.
12:13And she said she kind of thought he might call her, but he didn't.
12:16How long did they date?
12:18Like just a month, a couple weeks?
12:20Maybe.
12:21What did Tracy think about him?
12:23She liked him, but she wasn't, you know, she was just somebody to go out with.
12:27What did Tracy tell you about her and Larry right at the end?
12:31It was just always fighting, arguing.
12:34He was real jealous.
12:36If I can't be with you, nobody's going to be with you.
12:38She moved out to this other little house, and I didn't want her out on her own at all.
12:44He was constantly calling me every single day.
12:48Where's Tracy?
12:48What's Tracy doing?
12:49How far had Tracy gone as far as trying to file for a divorce?
12:54She did go to file for a divorce, and she couldn't.
12:58She started crying, and she backed off.
13:01Okay.
13:01She was trying to break it off with him and get away from him.
13:04Okay.
13:05Donna paints Larry as jealous, possessive, and still obsessed with Tracy.
13:11George, a harmless fling, but neither of them was the last person to see her alive and lie
13:16about it.
13:18That's Steve Webb.
13:19The hope is that the witness world for her back then in 1997 will solve this case.
13:25I'm praying for every step you make, and I thank you from the bottom of my heart.
13:31You know, I don't know what drives you, but thank the Lord for you.
13:36I'm down below, and my breath is giving out.
13:48We've been talking about how little this house is, and how little this bedroom space is.
13:52I really hope we can get a good feel for what that means as far as swinging a weapon,
13:57and how defenseless she had to have been in that tight area.
14:00Tracy got herself trapped in that room.
14:02We don't actually have access to the house Tracy was murdered in, so we've set up a mock crime scene.
14:08Well, we've got it all built up inside.
14:10All right, let's go check it out.
14:11All right.
14:11What we want to take a look at are the risks the suspect faced getting into the house, how he got out,
14:17how the murder was likely carried out, and what we want to do is compare that to the suspects that are in Tracy's life.
14:23That's going to tell us a lot about this case.
14:25The very front of the house on this side, there's a small porch.
14:30The front door, Stephanie, we're going into the living room here.
14:34If we make a right, this is the bedroom.
14:38This is Tracy's bedroom.
14:39So her bedroom is the front of the house?
14:41Absolutely.
14:41It's very, very tight, incredibly tight.
14:44Where is most of the blood spatter and blood bound?
14:47A lot of it's cast back this direction.
14:51It's on the ceiling as well.
14:52Okay.
14:52I mean, it's violent.
14:54In what position is Tracy's body found?
14:57She's on her back.
14:57Face up.
14:58She's on her back.
14:59Face up, yeah, laying right here.
15:00Her hips are about here, and her head is facing this way.
15:05The scene shows us that Tracy was in her nightgown, and there was no forced entry.
15:09So she felt comfortable enough letting them in.
15:11That seems to point more towards her recent boyfriend, George, than it does her estranged husband, Larry,
15:16or Steve Webb, who she had just met earlier that night at a bar.
15:20Okay, so she lets him in.
15:22And where is the first blow, you think?
15:23Back of the head.
15:26She goes down face first.
15:28So she goes down face first, and that's the first blood pull?
15:30That's true.
15:30So she goes down first like this.
15:32How many more hits come when she's like this?
15:34Oh, there's a couple hits.
15:36Several hits.
15:36Yeah, there's several hits coming down on all sides.
15:39And then at some point...
15:40He flips her over.
15:41Flips her over.
15:41And she's still whopping?
15:42Oh, he's beating the bejesus out of her.
15:44This is the one that really ruptures the liver.
15:47But that one that comes across the face, that's the one that shatters the jaw, and it moves
15:53the jaw and the teeth come out.
15:55And then there's a couple, which, you know, again, I'm leaning down.
15:58And that's where the headboard is, because he does at one point come across.
16:02Oh.
16:02It's the headboard.
16:03You can see the ding?
16:04You can see the ding in there.
16:05The blunt weapon, whatever it was, did not appear to come from Tracy's house.
16:09Her killer arrived with it or retrieved it from their vehicle.
16:12Larry worked for the water department and could have possibly had tools in his truck.
16:16But so could Steve, who was driving his car hauler that night.
16:19And then there's George, whose work equipment included knives.
16:22And then show me how you're going to get a pocket knife out and slit my throat.
16:26How do we get those?
16:27We know there's blood on this comforter, right?
16:29Yeah.
16:29Something got laid on this quilt at some point, weapon, whatever.
16:33Let's say he lays it on the bed.
16:35Lays it on the bed.
16:37Now you're cutting her throat twice.
16:39Now you're choking.
16:41Because we know she didn't die from her throat being cold.
16:43I think he cut her throat, and it's not working like he thought.
16:47When you have three suspects, all of whom may have had a romantic interest in the victim,
16:53any one of them could have felt rejected or gotten angry with her that night.
16:58But with the injuries and the explosive rage that happened when this murder was committed,
17:03you would expect to find a suspect that has some kind of prior violent criminal history.
17:08And in 28 years, the only suspect with that kind of history is Larry Holloway.
17:13I can't even think of a more painful way to die.
17:15You know she breathes her own blood.
17:17She's losing teeth.
17:18Her jaw's broken.
17:19Her face is being crushed in.
17:21And he's wailing away at her liver and her stomach, too.
17:24And he strangles.
17:25And he cuts her throat.
17:26And she still survives the throat cutting.
17:29That's a long, miserable, painful death.
17:40Okay, so let's look at what we need still to do.
17:43We've got to go talk to Stephen Webb.
17:46Are you all wanting to talk to Steve?
17:47Are you wanting us to talk to Steve?
17:48Or how are you all wanting to do that?
17:49Uh, you go do Steve.
17:51And then Haley and I will hit the other four Searcy people and make our three phone calls.
17:55I'm still leaning towards my theory that Tracy's estranged husband, Larry, is the one who killed her.
17:59While Kelly thinks it's the recent boyfriend, George.
18:02But we also have a third suspect, Steve Webb.
18:05The individual who met her earlier that night actually went home with her and got caught lying about it.
18:10Do you ever get a confession on any of these cold cases?
18:15Rarely.
18:15Steve said Tracy wasn't his type.
18:17And he did pass a polygraph.
18:19But he's not out of the woods yet.
18:21Steve, if you wouldn't care, would you sit in that passenger seat up there?
18:23So I know you was at the Elks that night, right?
18:30And she came in, I guess, shooting pool or something like that.
18:33Did she come in and drink a little bit and shoot pool?
18:35Yes.
18:36And I took her home and she invited me in to have a drink.
18:39I did.
18:40I had a glass of tea.
18:41We just sat there and talked for a little bit and I got up and left.
18:43Okay.
18:45She told me she was having a terrible time with her ex-husband, her husband, the BX or whatever.
18:49Did you think you was going to get some or did she offer any of it?
18:53It wasn't that kind of deal?
18:55No.
18:56You first kind of denied about being out there.
18:59What?
18:59I didn't because I thought he already had the person that did it.
19:02I didn't have no clue.
19:03Yeah.
19:04That's what happened.
19:05I was reaching to the admission and I found out.
19:06I thought, well, we better do what's right.
19:08So I did exactly what was right.
19:10They looked at you, no injuries on your arms or anything like that?
19:13No.
19:13I didn't do this.
19:15I didn't have a reason to do this.
19:16So you didn't have any reason to kill her, did you?
19:18No.
19:19Steve said he initially lied to the police because he thought the police had actually
19:22already caught Tracy's killer.
19:24So his interactions with her were actually irrelevant.
19:27It's an odd excuse.
19:29Getting this over with.
19:30We appreciate you.
19:31But Steve's truck was actually seen backing out of Tracy's driveway about 12.30 a.m.
19:36And we know that she called her husband about 1.30 a.m., which would suggest to us that
19:41she was alive well after the time Steve left.
19:43He didn't do that.
19:45No.
19:45She was so fun and sweet.
19:51And I remember she would, like, practice on me, like, doing nails and stuff like that.
19:56And she had this precious little boy.
19:58She really loved her little boy.
20:02She rented that little house.
20:04She was so thankful that she had a place to live.
20:08The biggest thing I remember is just her feeling this zest for life and just this confidence
20:13about where her career was going.
20:15Talking to Tracy's friends, you can feel how much they loved her and how much they still
20:21miss her.
20:21This just makes us want to try even harder to solve her case.
20:26I remember her looking forward to turning 30 and telling us she was planning to go out.
20:31Everyone, we were all shocked.
20:33From the start, Haley and I believed that George was the most viable suspect.
20:38He had scratches on his arms.
20:40He had a burn pile going on in his yard.
20:43He had an odd story about going to a bookstore that very night.
20:47And he had access to some unusual tools where he worked.
20:51Hey, this is Detective DiNapoli, the Searcy Police Department.
20:58I'm new to looking over the Holloway case, and I'm seeing here that you knew Tracy.
21:04I was wondering if I could ask you some questions.
21:06We can meet up, maybe.
21:09Sure.
21:10Can I meet with you here in just a few minutes?
21:12I can just meet you right over there.
21:14Thank you so much.
21:16Bye.
21:17That was pretty damn cooperative.
21:19Yeah.
21:19That doesn't usually happen.
21:20I'm just saying, I'm hearing that.
21:23Haley played it very casual and cool getting George to come in.
21:28She might be really young, but she has a way of talking to people and listening
21:32where she could really be cut out to work on cases just like this.
21:36What do you remember about Tracy?
21:38How was y'all's relationship?
21:40I guess it was okay.
21:42There wasn't, like, any issues with it.
21:45But I think we kind of stopped seeing each other shortly before that.
21:49Would you say the relationship was serious or just kind of casual?
21:52No, it was pretty casual.
21:53Okay.
21:54I think there was a couple sexual encounters.
21:56It was her birthday the day before her death.
21:58Did you call her at all?
21:59Was your happy birthday?
22:01No, I don't think so.
22:03I don't think I had had any contact with her for, like, at least a week.
22:09How come?
22:10She was still married, if I remember right.
22:13It was a little bit of guilt.
22:14So the first you hear about this lady that you'd been seeing is brutally murdered, what
22:19do you think?
22:20I was in shock.
22:22I mean, I couldn't believe it.
22:24And it was terrifying.
22:25Because you were right in the middle of it.
22:27Yeah.
22:28You remember when they first approached you, you were out at your house in the backyard
22:31that day, working in your barn?
22:34Yeah, I had that shop building.
22:35Yes, sir.
22:35And you had a fire going.
22:38Yeah, probably.
22:39Remember anything about the cops checking, digging through the fire?
22:41I remember one of them told me that they had dug through it, but, I mean, I was all the
22:46time burning stuff out there.
22:48And there was tree limbs, and there was a little house that was next door to me that
22:53I was slowly trying to dismantle and I was burning stuff, so.
22:56When you came into the police department that following day, you did have some scratches on
22:59your arms.
23:01Where do you think that would have been from?
23:03Right from brush and tree limbs or whatever it was.
23:06So it was common for you to have?
23:08Oh, yeah.
23:08And I'm sure they asked you back then where you were the night before.
23:12Oh, yeah.
23:13And what'd you tell them, you remember?
23:14I was probably just sitting at home.
23:17Remember anything about a book?
23:19Because there's a receipt in the file from Books A Million and going to Books A Million
23:23at 10 o'clock or so at night, would that have been unusual?
23:26That actually does sound a little unusual to be that late.
23:29And we asked that because the Books A Million is close to the Elks Lodge, which is where Tracy
23:34spent her birthday that night.
23:36Did you ever go to the Elks Lodge with her?
23:39No.
23:40Never?
23:40Never been there.
23:41Here's the problem, George.
23:43Hayley and I are working on this case.
23:45But in the middle of all of it that makes it just messy is you.
23:49And you understand why.
23:51Yeah.
23:51And you still came down here today.
23:53Yeah.
23:55How come?
23:56I don't have anything to hide.
23:57If I can help you guys in any way determine who did do this to her and to her son, then
24:07yeah, I want to help.
24:08Okay.
24:09You all want to get to the truth?
24:11So do I.
24:12Well, I definitely don't think it's him at all.
24:15My spider sense is not tingling.
24:17We appreciate it.
24:20Thank you very much.
24:20Honestly.
24:22After talking to George Johnson, I admit I was wrong.
24:26But whoever committed this murder is a monster.
24:28He's more like a teddy bear.
24:30Did you all get to listen to that?
24:31We did.
24:32I told you I can admit when I'm wrong.
24:35I thought he was sincere.
24:36I think he's a good guy.
24:37I just think him and Tracy had this fling.
24:40Yeah.
24:51We need to focus back on Tracy's husband, Larry, and Larry's story about what happened that
24:57night.
24:57Right.
24:58Tracy calls Larry at 1.34.
25:01I think Larry is just fuming.
25:03Was supposed to come over probably about 10 or 11.
25:06And I just think that he is fantasizing that she's at home with some guy having sex.
25:12And, you know, this was just pure rage.
25:15How'd he get in the house?
25:16She let him in.
25:17We need to learn more about Tracy and Larry's relationship.
25:20Could his jealousy have led to her murder?
25:24Would she have opened the door for him?
25:26Tracy's girlfriends may know.
25:29Would you describe Larry's being jealous?
25:32Yes.
25:32He was just on her all the time.
25:36Just hovering over her.
25:39Because I think Larry didn't want to let go.
25:45She was terrified of her ex-husband.
25:47Larry?
25:48Yes.
25:49Because he was so jealous.
25:51Did he call up there constantly harassing her or anything?
25:53Yeah.
25:54Trying to see what she's doing?
25:55And he would sit out and watch.
25:58I've been a minister for many, many years.
26:00Mm-hmm.
26:00And Larry could just walk by me, and I could just feel demons on him.
26:07They fought like crazy.
26:10Larry was real jealous of the fact that she was living apart from him.
26:16Seeing other men.
26:17Seeing other men.
26:18He would drive by all the time.
26:20So he definitely didn't want the divorce.
26:22He did not want the divorce.
26:23There was times that he would even cry, have tears rolling down his face, telling me, I
26:28can't be without her.
26:30And that no other man was going to raise his son.
26:34These women clearly described Larry's jealous and obsessive behaviors.
26:38It sounds like he wasn't getting the message that Tracy was finally done with him.
26:41Do you think she was still being intimate with Larry at that time?
26:44Um, at least twice, because I was told by him and by her.
26:51They've been sleeping together a little bit.
26:52Yeah.
26:52Recently, right before the murder?
26:54Yeah, not too long before.
26:56Which was another reason I felt like he was so obsessed.
27:00It sounds like Larry and Tracy's relationship was in its final messy stages, which could
27:05account for Larry's emotional state and may have explained why she wouldn't have been
27:09afraid to open the door and let him into the house.
27:12After Tracy was killed, I worked with Larry's brother, Alan Holloway.
27:17Alan was talking about the day that Tracy was killed.
27:20He said that he was laying there in the bed, but he heard the phone ring, and then Larry
27:25picked it up and was talking.
27:28He said that he heard Larry leave the apartment.
27:31You know, I looked at him, and I said, what?
27:34And that's when he stopped talking.
27:35He went silent.
27:36She has a conversation with Alan, who was Larry's brother, a few years after the murder.
27:42And Alan blurts out, when I got home that night, I heard the phone ring, and then I heard
27:47Larry leave.
27:48That's something Alan never told police.
27:50We need to talk to Alan.
27:58How are you feeling, Miss Haley?
28:04Good.
28:04I'm excited.
28:05Yeah?
28:05Yeah.
28:06You're excited.
28:07Are you feeling pressure, too, or just excited?
28:09Just excited.
28:10That's what comes from being so young.
28:13The hard part is that it's been so long, and this is his blood brother.
28:20We've come home to Texas to talk to Alan Holloway, Larry Holloway's blood brother, and he was his
28:26roommate the night of the murder.
28:28He could be the make-or-break witness to this case, because Alan has told a witness that that night, Larry left the house.
28:41Hi there.
28:42Hey, are you Alan?
28:43That's me, yeah.
28:44Hey, I'm Detective DiNapoli.
28:46Sorry.
28:46Where are we looking into the Tracy Holloway case?
28:50I'm glad.
28:50We were wondering if you'd be willing to...
28:52I'm just glad.
28:52I'm so glad.
28:54Yeah, anything I can do to help.
28:56Okay.
28:56It's always a relief to hear someone reworking a case.
29:01I'm just glad that it's not...
29:04Forgotten.
29:05Yeah, yeah, absolutely.
29:07First question is just, what do you remember from that night?
29:20First question is just, what do you remember from that night?
29:23Larry's room was on the front side of the apartment,
29:25and I was on the back side, and by the time that I got home at whatever time, 11-ish,
29:31everybody was gone to sleep.
29:33But I don't remember the phone call.
29:36You don't remember the phone call?
29:37How did you know there was a phone call?
29:38The officers had mentioned that there was a call on the caller ID from Tracy to Larry there at the apartment.
29:45It was like 1.30-ish or something like that in the morning.
29:48That was the big conversation about the caller ID and the call that was made.
29:53Alan says he was asleep and did not hear the phone call or know about it until the next morning.
29:59But this contradicts what we have heard from a witness and was part of Alan's own initial statement.
30:06Alan, so in the fire, there's this.
30:09We both went to bed around 12.
30:11Right.
30:11Tracy called at approximately 1.36 a.m.
30:14Yeah, and seeing that's the part, I don't even know why I would have put that in there.
30:20Was Alan confused back then?
30:23Is he confused now?
30:25Or is he covering for his brother?
30:27And you know what the suspicions are about this conversation with your brother?
30:31I can only imagine.
30:32What do you think?
30:33There was opportunity for him to leave.
30:38He sees somebody that he didn't want to see or sees something that he didn't want to see.
30:42Something could have happened.
30:43The last person to talk to her when she was alive was this 1.36 phone call.
30:48Yeah.
30:49So the last person to talk to her alive is your brother.
30:52That's right.
30:53That's right.
30:54And we know their relationship, and it wasn't good.
30:57Ladies, I don't know.
30:59You want to believe witnesses are telling you the truth?
31:02He's very smooth.
31:04He's very articulate.
31:05But anyone who's been in law enforcement for a while understands that blood doesn't talk on blood.
31:10And when they do, it's very, very rare.
31:12Do you remember working with the Carol Moore?
31:14Yeah.
31:14Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
31:16That's Tracy's cousin.
31:17Did y'all ever talk about Tracy's death at all?
31:20No.
31:21So there wouldn't be any reason why she says that you had a conversation with her about Larry leaving that night?
31:25No, not at all.
31:26Okay.
31:27Not at all.
31:28I do not remember Larry leaving that night.
31:32After speaking with Alan, I thought that what he did was put a complete show on for us.
31:37Thank you, Alan.
31:38I appreciate it.
31:40Bye-bye.
31:40Bye-bye.
31:41I did not feel that he was genuine.
31:43I felt like it was very rehearsed, maybe.
31:46It became kind of a little too much.
31:48Try to convince us too much.
31:50Over the top.
31:50Over the top.
31:51Yeah.
31:51Good morning.
32:00Hey, guys.
32:01Big day, big day.
32:02What you thinking?
32:03I went by earlier this morning.
32:05Both cars were there over at Larry's house.
32:07So I want to go try while we know they're there.
32:10Can we follow and listen?
32:11Yeah.
32:12All right.
32:12Well, good luck.
32:13Come on.
32:14Let's go jump in.
32:14You want to drive or you want me to drive?
32:16I'll drive.
32:17We believe Larry was desperate to keep Tracy in his life.
32:19He's used violence and threats in the past.
32:22He's also the person who we believe was the last individual to talk to her.
32:26We need to talk to Larry.
32:27But will he talk to us?
32:30So I've been thinking about what we're going to talk about.
32:32Let's see what direction he goes in here.
32:35I don't think he's exactly a lover of law enforcement.
32:38No.
32:39Definitely not.
32:39I don't know.
32:41I can hardly imagine after 27 years, there's two cops knocking on your door.
32:49And all of a sudden, it's right back in your face.
32:54Hello.
32:54How you doing?
32:55Good.
32:56Is Larry Holloway here?
32:57That's me.
32:57That's you, sir?
32:58We're looking into your late wife's homicide from back in 97.
33:03And we just wanted to see if you had a minute to talk about it.
33:06Yeah, let me get my shoes on.
33:07Okay.
33:07We'll be out in the car.
33:08All right.
33:09Whoa.
33:10He's coming out.
33:11Have a seat.
33:13We're just trying to go through the entire case file and get everybody's story and everything.
33:19So what can you tell us about 97?
33:20I'm going to cut it short because I'm just going to be honest with you, man.
33:24I'm not going to go there.
33:25Okay.
33:26Yeah, without a lawyer.
33:27I've been told it's going to get turned around on me if I keep running my mouth about it.
33:33You know, I was told this when it first started.
33:35Well, here's what I can tell you.
33:36I want to solve your wife's murder.
33:38I want you to.
33:39Hey, Mr. Hollywood.
33:40One of the things we were looking at is if she was having any sexual relations with anybody that you know of.
33:46I'm sure she was.
33:47I mean...
33:47We heard she might have tried to get back with you.
33:49Well, no.
33:50As far as us getting back together, I didn't see that happening.
33:55That's good.
33:55That's not what Donna says.
33:57Do you remember her calling you that night at about 1.30, 1.36 in the morning?
34:01Because she was supposed to pick up your son.
34:03Yeah, I can't remember if I called her or if she called me.
34:06But I do remember talking to her.
34:08You never left the house that night after she called?
34:11No.
34:11No, I was right there.
34:13So he's the last one to talk to her alive?
34:15Yep.
34:15I know all this is on record that I'm talking about right here.
34:20No, I didn't kill my wife.
34:22He's not as dumb as I thought he was.
34:25Yeah, I'll be careful.
34:26Thank you, sir.
34:27He's very guarded.
34:29He knows what to say.
34:30Yeah.
34:30The only guy that has stonewalled this whole investigation since the beginning is Larry Holloway.
34:35He wouldn't even get in the car.
34:37And his first statement to us was, I'm going to keep this short.
34:39I'm not going to say anything.
34:40When you brought up the phone call, he locks himself in as the last person known to talk to Tracy.
34:47And he took away from what Donna told you when he said, I knew we were getting back together.
34:52Right.
34:53It was all friendly.
34:54Nobody expected Larry Holloway to confess.
34:57But there is enough circumstantial evidence here for us to present to the prosecutor's office.
35:03And it's time for us to do that and move this case forward.
35:19So when we started all this, we had three suspects on our board.
35:24Tracy's case was never going to be a case solved by forensic evidence.
35:29It's going to come down to all the little pieces of circumstantial evidence that we have uncovered.
35:34First, Mr. Stephen Webb.
35:36He didn't do himself any favors.
35:38He didn't come out with the truth from the very beginning.
35:40I thought he had what he had the person who did.
35:42I didn't have no clue.
35:43I simply think he was at the wrong place.
35:47Also, those three witnesses that saw Steve Webb's truck out there that night, they saw him leave her house.
35:54Right.
35:54There was a phone call inside that house made after Steve Webb left.
35:57Absolutely.
35:58So we know she was alive.
36:00And the other thing is with the overkill that we're talking about in this case, there's no motive.
36:04Where's the motive for that kind of kill on Steve Webb?
36:07This isn't somebody I just met in the club.
36:09This is years or something going on, right?
36:11What's everybody's vote on eliminating him once and for all?
36:15Eliminate.
36:15Eliminate.
36:16Steve?
36:17Eliminate him.
36:18Steve Webb was in the wrong place at the wrong time, and he stupidly lied to the police about it.
36:24But there's a big difference between being stupid and being a killer.
36:28Okay.
36:29George Johnson II, the guy that I came into town thinking was looking like the best suspect I'd met.
36:36I think when you read the report, there were a lot of assumptions made.
36:40Like, when they went out to his house, there was a fire burning.
36:43The fact that he worked with all kinds of knives and tools.
36:46The fact that they hadn't talked for a whole week by phone.
36:50Was he heartbroken over it or not?
36:52The fact that he came into town to pick up a book that's right by the Elks Lodge.
36:56I kind of zeroed on that one, too.
36:58He had scratches on him.
36:59And then you called him up because you wanted to see with your own eyes what you thought about him.
37:03And what's the first thing he says when he walks in the room?
37:06I don't have anything to hide, and I want to help.
37:08Y'all want to get to the truth?
37:09So do I.
37:11Every question that we asked him, he had an answer and a good answer for it.
37:14I feel like he's very truthful.
37:16The scratches on him are...
37:17They look like briars.
37:18They look like yard work to me, man.
37:19He needs to be eliminated.
37:21Okay.
37:21BJ, what do you think?
37:23Oh, definitely.
37:23I couldn't have been more wrong about George Johnson, and I admit it, because he had nothing
37:29to do with Tracy's murder.
37:31So now we're sitting here and we've got Larry Holloway up on the board.
37:33What's your strongest evidence that you would lead with?
37:35The time before the murder.
37:39They're going through this divorce.
37:40I think that he is surprised that Tracy is able to get out and she gets a house.
37:46She's picked up a guy.
37:47Tracy tells people she thinks she's being followed.
37:49He would drive by all the time.
37:51He's over at Carol's house, saying, I can't live without her.
37:55Where's she at?
37:56Who's she with?
37:56He had tears rolling down his face, telling me I can't be without her, and that no other
38:02man was going to raise his son.
38:04He brings in a plant and candy that morning to Tracy at the hair salon and says, hey, it's
38:09your 30th, you want to go out tonight?
38:10And she says, no, not with you.
38:12She's told people it's over.
38:14You think of what he's thinking here.
38:15He's just a raging bull at this time.
38:18Let the jury see the pictures of this woman's face.
38:20This is like destruction.
38:22Pain.
38:22This is your worst enemy that you would do something like that to.
38:26This wasn't George and this wasn't Steve.
38:28Larry's your guy right here.
38:29Larry's history of violence, his obsession with Tracy, that phone call between them,
38:37and the brutality of her injuries suggests that he killed her in a fit of jealous rage.
38:43So what's your request of your prosecutor, BJ?
38:45I'm going to ask my prosecutor.
38:47She proceed with charges against Larry Hallway for murder in the first degree.
38:51How are you feeling about it, Haley?
38:53Maybe I'm optimistic, but I'm ready and I'm excited.
38:55And hopefully we can get something followed.
38:56How are you feeling about telling Donna the good news, BJ?
39:14I'm glad I'm going to get to tell her mama she deserves this.
39:19What do you want to say to Donna, Haley?
39:22Um, just that I'm sorry it took so long.
39:31Um, I think she's going to be so happy to hear this news today.
39:37She's going to be okay.
39:42To talk to Donna today, there's so many emotions there.
39:45Donna's hurting.
39:46Donna's been hurting for 28 years.
39:48And she deserves justice.
39:54Working with Kelly has been absolutely amazing.
39:57Good morning, Miss Donna.
40:00She has a passionate way to show you that what you do, it's not just a job.
40:04It's a calling, and these families can't get justice without you.
40:08Well, we're sorry to keep you waiting, but we've got the best news you've probably heard in 28 years.
40:15We talked to our prosecutor yesterday, and we are sending a case file over to her for the arrest of Larry Hallway for a capital murder.
40:25There's a lot to put together, so it's going to take some time because it's complex.
40:34But, I mean, she's positive about it.
40:36She liked the case.
40:37She liked it.
40:38Oh, my God.
40:39We got to talk to a lot of Tracy's friends, and every person I talked to was happy that you allowed this to happen and that we were able to do this for you.
40:52Tracy's friends, Tracy's workers at the salon, all of them.
40:59It has had my life tore up for a long, long time.
41:04I'm just ecstatic.
41:06I'm so thankful you guys came forward and just saved the day.
41:13I'm sorry it took so long.
41:15I mean, it's not your fault, but thank God for you guys.
41:18How do you do this?
41:19How do you just keep...
41:22Well, it helps when it ends like this, and you have a prosecutor here who's doing her job and excited to do this job,
41:28and I wish that happened everywhere.
41:30You also...BJ's been on your side for a while, and now you've got Hayley on your side forever, okay?
41:37Oh, my goodness.
41:38Tracy, what do you want me to do now?
41:40I think she would say, keep living your life, Mama.
41:43I know she would.
41:44I know she would.
41:46To be able to tell Tracy's mom good news that the case is finally moving forward is a wonderful feeling.
41:54It's wonderful meeting you.
41:55Also, it's pretty nice to know that we're walking away leaving future cold case investigations in even better hands with BJ and with Hayley,
42:04and knowing that they're going to be excited to get justice for maybe even more victims out there.
42:09Thank you for everything this week, seriously.
42:12I feel like you're my kid.
42:14No.
42:15I got to see you start your career, and you're going to be a great cop, all right?
42:23Thank y'all for believing in me.
42:25I needed that.
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