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00:00Who killed Byron Griffey?
00:01Who killed Byron Griffey?
00:03Not knowing why somebody would have murdered him was the biggest thing.
00:08We didn't have a murder weapon.
00:11We didn't have any real DNA at the scene.
00:17Byron was laid out almost like one would be laid in a casket.
00:21He was staged.
00:22Tommy Tomlin and Corey Higgs were obviously on the suspect list.
00:31You guys trying to put a gun?
00:32But Byron's friends, Charles and Anthony, might be hiding something.
00:38We'd known Charles and Anthony for years.
00:42Anthony was so kind and patient.
00:45My oldest son works for him and his brother.
00:48Well, but I thought that was his brother.
01:00Charles and Tony are not brothers.
01:03They're together.
01:06They're lovers.
01:18And then he asked me to marry him.
01:42We were going to get married, Humphrey Bogart style, at the reality.
01:50Oh, my head hurts.
01:59It was all just crazy.
02:05It was like, wait, what?
02:06Charles and Tony are gay, have been for 24 years.
02:11Now Tony's leaving Charles.
02:13For my mother, who's leaving my stepfather, who raised us.
02:19What the is happening?
02:22I'm furious.
02:24I'm so upset that I would introduce Tony into our family
02:29and that the two of them would just blow it all up for their own selfish needs.
02:36Not only did that rock of your family get just completely destroyed,
02:42you know, Charles and Tony, boom, that's blown up, too.
02:49We brought Laura in to interview her
02:55to see if Anthony had disclosed anything to her
02:59about the murder of Byron Griffey.
03:01Did Anthony tell you about the death of Byron?
03:05Charleston.
03:06What did he tell you?
03:07He just said they went out to go see a friend and have lunch.
03:12And they couldn't get onto the property.
03:14They kept calling him and nobody came out to the gate
03:17to unlock it and let him in.
03:19And so they left.
03:21And then the guy ended up dead.
03:24That's it.
03:25What happened with Byron?
03:32Yeah, I'm not so sure.
03:33I don't know either of these guys.
03:36How much contact have you had with Charles over the last five years?
03:41Times.
03:42What do you know about Charles?
03:43Charles is dangerous.
03:46It scares me.
03:48Why?
03:48And I don't know why my intuition will tell me that,
03:51but it didn't tell me everything else.
03:52If these guys are wrapped up in that homicide out east,
04:00one can't let the other one get over it.
04:04Anthony, we're not.
04:06Well, we all say that.
04:09But we all get surprised.
04:11When you guys came to Florence, how did you guys introduce yourselves?
04:24We did start off calling ourselves brothers.
04:30Initially figured that would help us get broken to the town.
04:36Yes, Charles and I were together for a long time,
04:39but we weren't really close physically for the last 10 or 15 years.
04:48There was no romantic inclination between us.
04:52That had already faded by the time I was starting to have feelings for Laura.
05:05A few hours prior to this happening,
05:08I just told Charles,
05:09bottom line is I'm not going to stay with you.
05:12Charles' personality was controlling and I was okay with giving up businesses
05:20and personal belongings to just try and be happy.
05:26Laura told me that she was moving out.
05:28She had a place to go.
05:29So I packed a bunch of clothes into a garbage bag
05:32and threw them in my car and went.
05:34I knew that Charles was very vindictive.
05:40I knew there would be problems in the future.
05:46But I was hoping to work through that.
05:50Always an optimist, I guess.
05:54Before I had even gotten to Laura,
05:57Charles had called her and let her in on everything.
06:01So she was freaking out pretty bad.
06:04I told her, yeah, it was true.
06:06But we weren't together for years physically.
06:10It was just basically a convenience
06:12because we were working the same businesses.
06:16I told her I was going to go talk to Charles again.
06:20And I was hoping I could just reason with him to be human about it.
06:25I drove all the way home.
06:27When I got there, Charles was gone somewhere.
06:30So I left him a note.
06:32I had business credit cards and the business phone.
06:38So I just set it on the table and I just walked out.
06:41I was a police officer in Florence in 2012.
06:48I believe it was a Sunday night.
06:49When I got called into the police department, they said,
06:52hey, Anthony's missing.
06:53There's a suicide note.
06:569-1-1-1-2, emergency.
06:58Charles was thinking Anthony was going to kill himself.
07:01He starts crying.
07:02And, you know, he's really upset.
07:04He was telling me, you know, he really loved Anthony.
07:06He was hoping he was all right.
07:08And he told us to check where the horses were.
07:10My mom was so distraught.
07:13She's like, Charles told me, Anthony's going to kill himself.
07:15We have to find him.
07:17So my friends and I started driving around town.
07:20There's cop cars everywhere.
07:22All the, going to the church, the Main Street Grill, all the places, you know.
07:25So we're like, oh man, where would he go?
07:27Like, what would he do?
07:30Where is he going to kill himself?
07:35I didn't know any of this was happening.
07:38I was hanging out with my horses.
07:43Yes, I had a firearm with me.
07:45But at the time, I always had a firearm with me.
07:52A couple officers from the Florence Police Department showed up.
07:55So I just came wandering up, hey, what's going on, guys?
07:58And how are you doing, buddy?
08:00And they're like, fine, how are you doing?
08:03They were doing an evaluation to see if I was suicidal.
08:08If I wanted to commit suicide, I'd have done it.
08:10There was no reason not to.
08:13But I didn't, because I wasn't going to commit suicide.
08:17The officers took me to Florence Police Department.
08:21Do you have any weapons on the air?
08:22Law enforcement did receive the note that Anthony had authored.
08:30Some believed it to be an admission of guilt with the murder of Byron Griffey.
08:38So I have the note.
08:40It says, I hold no one responsible for my actions but myself.
08:52Please don't hold anyone else responsible for anything that I have done.
08:56And then I signed it, Anthony has right.
09:01I don't know.
09:02It was a personal note to Charles about Laura, and that's all it was.
09:08If I'd have known CBI was going to read it, I probably would have worded it differently.
09:13We brought Charles in so that they both could be questioned.
09:16We had realized there were inconsistencies in their story.
09:40We were hoping at some point one would turn on the other and say something that hadn't been said before.
09:48Mark, if you have evidence, I don't believe you do it because I did nothing.
09:51I mean, what have you got?
09:51When I learned that Charles and Anthony weren't brothers, wow, it was a sense of betrayal.
10:15I think a lot of people in Florence felt that way.
10:19It was almost like the whole town got duped.
10:25As an investigator for the Fremont County Coroner's Office, I would have to call funeral homes at strange hours of the night.
10:32There'd be a call to Charles Giebler for him to come pick up somebody that had just passed away.
10:38And he'd just say, hold on, talk to Anthony, and then roll over and give the phone to Anthony.
10:43So, you know, at that point, it's like, well, I don't sleep with my brother.
10:51Gay relationships have been in this world from the beginning of time.
10:55It's nothing new.
10:57It's who you are, and some people can't accept that.
11:02Lying about who you are and not wanting to tell everyone is self-preservation.
11:07It's really hard for me to wrap my head around how long of a relationship they had.
11:13This was a full-fledged, like, life that these guys built together.
11:18And so it's really hard that Tony's never really addressed it or, like, talked about it.
11:24And then being gay myself, it's like, you couldn't spot two other gay guys.
11:28I do understand why it wouldn't be public information, but they were, like, family to us.
11:34They could have trusted at least us to know their secret.
11:38Well, as long as we're sitting here today, I need to clear up some things, Tony.
11:48There's none of the story, Charles.
11:50I looked at your cell phone records, watched your travels that day.
11:55When you left the farm, you told me that you guys went and had lunch in Pueblo.
12:02There's about an hour of time that I need you to account for.
12:05During the interviews with Charles and Anthony, they stated that they left Fowler about 1 o'clock.
12:12They drove to Pueblo.
12:14They ate lunch at a buffet restaurant, which they had a receipt for.
12:19We contacted the buffet restaurant to see if we could get some surveillance footage from the cameras.
12:26Unfortunately, the cameras had already erased themselves.
12:30As we're putting the timeline together, if they would have left Fowler a little before 1 o'clock,
12:38it's about a 35-minute drive from Fowler to the buffet.
12:42Receipts showed that they were stamped in at 226, which you pay before you eat.
12:48So there was almost an entire hour that was unaccounted for.
12:57It does not take an hour and a half to get from Fowler to the buffet.
13:01So, rack your brain.
13:02You know, it would be very unlikely if you hardly remember that date.
13:06And you've got an hour of driving around, no alibi other than each other.
13:15You must have been mistaken.
13:18Do you remember what you told me the day I talked to you Sunday, the day after Byron's death?
13:24Do you remember telling me what vehicle you drove out there?
13:26It was a black Mercedes S-500 in 1997.
13:33It was the black before the Mercedes?
13:35Okay.
13:38Here's what was bothering me the most.
13:40I pulled this surveillance video from different locations.
13:46I know you're not in the black Mercedes.
13:48In fact, I can tell you exactly what you're driving.
13:51I'm concerned why you're not being honest with me about that.
13:53I ain't afraid I don't know what you're talking about.
14:02They say that they're driving their Mercedes, they decide to go to lunch,
14:06then go by the Home Depot to buy the deck box
14:09that they're going to place out at the marina for their boat.
14:13We got surveillance footage that shows where they had bought the deck box.
14:18And the investigator was able to identify that they were in a white Astrovan.
14:23That is totally inconsistent with them being in a Mercedes.
14:30Imagine, if you will, how that looks.
14:33The day after I'm talking to you, you say black Mercedes.
14:36Everybody says black Mercedes.
14:38And then I find out independently that you're in a different vehicle.
14:42To the best of my knowledge, the car that we drove down there was a black Mercedes.
15:04That was honestly primary mode of transportation for me.
15:10And my brain told me that that's what I was driving that day because it made sense.
15:14Tony, you're lying to me about what vehicle you're driving that day.
15:18I must have been mistaken.
15:20The next day you forgot what vehicle you drove?
15:23I didn't think there was any reason to have total recall of an average day.
15:29It wasn't an average day.
15:30Tony, a man died that day and you were there on his property when he died.
15:34I didn't know that at the time.
15:36I never made it past the gate.
15:38I don't know what to tell you.
15:39I don't know what to tell you.
16:09But I was with him who told me a friend for a birthday lunch.
16:12They were there to murder Byron.
16:19Charles and Anthony denied everything.
16:24So we start going through and looking closer.
16:27We learned they had some very deep, dark secrets that made me think,
16:33how can this case get any crazier?
16:39CBI had told me that Charles and Anthony were suspects.
16:50They had a motive to kill my dad.
16:53I mean, it's all about money.
16:55The police were really focused on Charles and Anthony.
17:00So it made me kind of second-guess Corey.
17:05Charles and Anthony is the only ones that knew that he was going to the farm.
17:13The farm itself is isolated.
17:16There would be no way that a neighbor would have heard a gunshot.
17:21Charles and Anthony's story was falling apart.
17:25And during the investigation, we uncovered some less than savory details about them.
17:35I think most funeral directors want to generally help people.
17:43And there's some that want to take advantage of people at their lowest point.
17:48The funeral home I worked for had a great reputation in this community.
17:52They've been in this community for generations.
17:55And then these guys come in and just snowball everybody.
17:58The people that hated Charles and Anthony were kind of the other business people in town.
18:05Because Charles did not play very well with them.
18:10A funeral director, it's all about being professional.
18:14You know, you go out to somebody's house and take one of their loved ones out the door that has just passed away.
18:21You shouldn't be in a t-shirt.
18:25These guys just kind of did whatever they wanted.
18:27Charles would show up in cargo shorts, flip-flops.
18:32I just couldn't believe it.
18:33I thought it was so unprofessional.
18:36Charles and Tony, they always put you in that situation where you were like,
18:41whew, that's kind of sketchy or like morally cloudy.
18:45They asked us to do a few shaky things here or there.
18:50Felt like you were kind of like in the little mini town mob.
18:53And Charles was the mob boss.
18:55Then we were the henchmen.
18:59These people were doing things that they shouldn't be doing.
19:02I mean, it felt like they were definitely out to get us.
19:07A smoke grenade was thrown through the window of the mortuary.
19:11And it's not like everybody in Florence just has smoke grenades.
19:16But Charles Giebler was heavily into weapons.
19:21You can't prove it was them, but nobody else is going to do that.
19:26And then years back, right around Pioneer Day, before the big parade,
19:34I had brought over the 39 Packard and the 38 Cadillac limo.
19:39It was very important to Bill Holt, the owner of the mortuary,
19:43that those vehicles be in that parade.
19:46We drove them over there the night before.
19:49The next day, all the ignition wires had been cut.
19:56The car wouldn't start.
19:58Somebody didn't want us in that parade and went in and snipped the wires behind the dash.
20:03It was obviously Charles and Anthony.
20:08Who else would do that?
20:09Charles always liked to talk about how he would get one over,
20:15especially on the IRS or the government or any kind of authority figure.
20:20Charles started that church so that he could become tax-exempt
20:23and kind of funnel some funds through there.
20:29That was definitely not the first, like, tax scheme.
20:33Charles told me that you would not believe the tax breaks.
20:38That's why they did it.
20:39One of the obligations that law enforcement has
20:46is to investigate the background of any potential suspect.
20:51We became aware that Charles had been found catfishing.
20:54He was setting up these online relationships,
20:57clearly sexual in nature,
20:59in representing himself as a younger individual.
21:03This kid in New York, tell me about you.
21:05Facebook has this new thing, this little role-playing kind of game.
21:08It's just a game.
21:09The kid in New York didn't think it was a game.
21:11No, he didn't.
21:13Charles had a rock-and-roll mortician persona
21:16that he was trying to keep up,
21:19that he was, you know, younger, in a band,
21:23worked as a mortician.
21:24So is this a little game you spend on the Internet with these kids?
21:27I guess so.
21:28I confronted him about it,
21:30and he said it's just a role-playing.
21:34I said, okay, whatever.
21:36Well, a poor 18-year-old kid in New York was pretty devastated.
21:40He didn't know that Charles was a 51-year-old man.
21:43He thought he was a 25-year-old little part-bodied kid.
21:47Charles, the things that he did in his life, like the catfishing and going into politics
21:54and the church being a bishop, that played into his narcissism.
22:00He liked to show off, be the man that people were talking about.
22:06Charles definitely thought of himself as above the law.
22:09Maybe he thought of himself as the law is more accurate
22:12because he had his own sense of justice,
22:15and he also had God on his side.
22:19Charles also liked to boast.
22:21He would say, if I was ever going to kill someone,
22:24I would use a 22 to the back of the head.
22:26They were very much a threat, I believe, to the community.
22:35Everything that Charles and Anthony did was all a scam.
22:40And you've got to just wonder,
22:42what happened to Irene Witte?
22:48Irene Witte and her husband Frank had lived in Florence almost all their lives.
22:53They operated the funeral home next door.
22:58When Frank Witte died, we took care of his wife
23:02because her family kind of just left her high and dry.
23:06I'd heard bad stories from Charles and Tony
23:10about how awful Irene's family was.
23:13And they're the ones that took care of her.
23:15They took her soup.
23:16They fed her.
23:17They took her to the doctor.
23:18Charles took over as a financial situation.
23:22And a week before she passed away,
23:26she had changed her will and left everything to them.
23:30The number was $700 to $1 million.
23:34I 100% believe Charles was part of Irene's death.
23:37Charles and Anthony always spent money.
23:44They liked to flash it around.
23:45But after Byron died, they took it up a notch.
23:50They bought boats, jet skis.
23:53They started spending money like crazy.
23:56At this time, business was slow.
23:59Charles and Tony weren't making much money at all.
24:02The Colorado Department of Revenue
24:05was attempting to shut down some of the businesses
24:08that Charles and Anthony owned for failure to pay taxes.
24:11So they were in financial trouble.
24:14It made us believe that that would have been a large motive
24:19as to why Byron was murdered.
24:24The next step was to get a search warrant
24:28for the white astro van.
24:29Knowing that they had bought the deck box
24:35and that they were at the North Shore Marina,
24:37we thought that they might have discarded the murder weapon.
24:41Divers were sent to look for a weapon.
24:45Unfortunately, we were not able to obtain the weapon from the marina.
24:50The evidence from the astro van came up empty.
24:54There was no DNA.
24:55There was no blood in the astro van.
24:57So, again, we were pretty much at square one.
25:01At the same time,
25:03we had not been able to rule out other suspects,
25:07Tommy Tomlin and Corey Hicks.
25:10Tommy Tomlin did take a polygraph, which he failed.
25:14We couldn't pinpoint where Corey's whereabouts were,
25:17and Corey's alibi did have some holes in it.
25:20As we began to dig deeper,
25:23we found that Corey had a very good motive to hurt Byron.
25:28So, have you ever taken a polygraph before?
25:31No.
25:31Do you know anything about polygraphs?
25:33I don't know a whole heck of a lot about it
25:36other than heart rate, breathing rate, blood pressure,
25:38you know, all those nice physical things.
25:41Corey is extremely intelligent.
25:43He can take control of any situation that you put him in.
25:48How'd you sleep last night?
25:50I'm not.
25:52Not so good?
25:53What was going on with you last night?
25:55I'm just going to shut my mind off thinking about today.
25:57About today.
25:58I was just nervous and just running all of it through my head.
26:03All right.
26:04So, what do you want this polygraph to prove to me?
26:07So, I don't want to dredge up
26:16because it's obviously very serious
26:19and difficult for you to talk about,
26:21but...
26:21Have it?
26:27What?
26:28When I'm outside looking in,
26:31you have a pretty good moment to murder.
26:33Bye.
26:37Based on what I understand,
26:48you made allegations
26:50that Byron was sexually assaulting you.
26:56Corey Higgs was Byron's step-grandson.
26:59I still saw him as my friend,
27:02even though I know it was ulterior early-motivating.
27:05On his part?
27:06He didn't.
27:07We got along really good
27:09if I was doing the sexual things that he wanted.
27:16So, it kind of had a dark side.
27:18Yeah.
27:20About a year before the murder,
27:23Corey had said that Byron would give him cash
27:26for sexual favors
27:27and that Byron would take care of him that way.
27:31Was there ever a time that you were consenting with him?
27:37You could say, yes, I was consenting,
27:39but I still didn't like the idea that was happening.
27:43I didn't like him.
27:45I mean, I didn't like what he did to me.
27:48I still feel bad.
27:50And even though I shouldn't, I still did.
27:54I think Corey accused Byron because none of us were bowing down to him anymore
28:04to get him out of foster care.
28:06Accusing my dad just seemed like
28:10that would have been something he'd have done
28:15just to hurt us.
28:18So, Byron is arrested
28:30when we had the conversation with Byron
28:33after he had posted bail
28:35he said
28:37I did not do anything.
28:40I did believe Byron.
28:42A case was opened
28:47and Byron was charged with sexual assault on a child
28:50by one in position of trust.
28:53Byron was found guilty.
28:57After that, my dad couldn't see his grandkids.
29:01He went from
29:02the most loving, caring person
29:06to
29:07the most depressed
29:09withdrawn person.
29:13He was embarrassed and ashamed
29:15that people believed what Corey had said.
29:18He was scared that
29:19Corey was going to sue him.
29:22I've known Byron for years.
29:24We were friends.
29:26Several weeks before he actually died
29:29Byron had said
29:30I have a letter to give to you.
29:32It was a letter in a sealed envelope
29:34and he said
29:36if something happens to me
29:39be sure you do an autopsy
29:41and look at this letter.
29:44And he said
29:45it's just concerning
29:46because of the situation
29:47surrounding him and Corey.
29:51Did he feel a threat against his life?
29:53Was something going on
29:55that was a major concern to him
29:57that was going to happen?
30:00What would have led Corey
30:02to actually murder Byron
30:03was my big thing?
30:06Time had passed.
30:08The court case with him was over.
30:10Corey didn't gain anything
30:12out of any of it
30:14other than being able
30:15to hold Byron accountable.
30:18Corey lost everybody
30:19that was family to him.
30:21Did you ignore Byron?
30:24Yeah.
30:25Did you ask anybody to do it for you?
30:27No.
30:31Did you walk out to his house?
30:32No.
30:33Or to the farm and go into his farm?
30:35I haven't been on that farm
30:38for almost three years.
30:43After Corey had taken his polygraph
30:46the results came in
30:48and it was found that he passed it.
30:52At that point in time
30:54Corey was ruled out as a suspect.
30:56We had no evidence
30:57that Corey was there
30:59that he was involved
31:00that there's nothing
31:02that attaches him
31:03to this crime
31:04other than the fact
31:05that he had been
31:07molested by Byron Griffey.
31:09So that ruled him out
31:11in our eyes.
31:12I truly feel
31:13that if Corey would have
31:14walked up to the farm
31:15Byron would have been
31:16on the phone
31:16calling 911.
31:17I don't think Byron
31:19would have willingly
31:21opened the door
31:22for Corey
31:23prior to the murder.
31:27During the investigation
31:28we begin to realize
31:30that there's another side
31:31to Byron
31:32that people didn't know.
31:35Everybody knew
31:37the young males
31:38if you needed money
31:38for something
31:39you'd just go see Byron.
31:41He had ways
31:42of letting them earn money
31:45never got any specifics.
31:47Byron, I think,
31:49was embarrassed.
31:50You have to remember
31:52that men of his age
31:54who were gay
31:56they didn't talk about it.
31:59Byron got a divorce
32:00long ago
32:01from Lynette's mom.
32:03I personally never spoke
32:04to Byron
32:05about sexuality
32:07but I think that Byron
32:09was extremely lonely
32:11as far as
32:14a partner-type relationship.
32:17Tommy Tomlin
32:19was someone
32:21who would do
32:21just about anything
32:23for money.
32:24As time went on
32:25we started to hear
32:26that he was
32:27in a relationship
32:28with Byron
32:28that he kind of
32:30withheld from us
32:31from the start.
32:33So the next step
32:35was to meet
32:36with Tommy again.
32:37I'd like to clear
32:44this up tonight.
32:46So why?
32:47Because I don't want
32:47to ever talk
32:48to you guys again.
32:49Then help me out.
32:52There is something
32:53else that happens
32:53to you.
32:54All right.
32:55There was a relationship
33:11between Tommy and Byron
33:13that was more than
33:15your everyday handyman.
33:17He would do odd jobs
33:18around the house.
33:20Byron would invite him
33:21over to have turkey
33:23pot pies
33:23and to watch porn.
33:28And Byron would
33:29give him money
33:30for sexual favors.
33:33I don't need to know
33:34the details
33:34but where did this
33:35happen on Saturday?
33:37At his house in town.
33:38Not on the farm.
33:40I was high.
33:42You have now
33:43helped me
33:44to help you.
33:46With Tommy Tomlin
33:48knowing his drug issues
33:50if Tommy killed Byron
33:52in a heat of passion
33:53it probably wouldn't
33:55have been at the farm
33:55and it probably
33:57wouldn't have been
33:57as clean as it was.
33:59So it was at this time
34:01that we kind of
34:02started shying away
34:03from Tommy
34:04as a top suspect.
34:06What motive
34:07did he have?
34:09I mean he could have
34:10worked for my dad
34:11every day
34:11and got money.
34:13And now he gets nothing.
34:15So I didn't see
34:17that Tommy had
34:18any motive
34:20to do it.
34:22This was a very
34:23hard case.
34:25We felt that
34:26we were getting
34:27very close
34:28to making arrest
34:29warrants
34:30for Charles and Anthony.
34:31But the moment
34:33we thought
34:33we had it figured out
34:34there was a turn
34:36and now we had
34:38another dead body
34:39on our hands.
34:47A few months
34:48after Byron's murder
34:49we felt that
34:50we were getting
34:51very close
34:52to being able
34:52to make an arrest
34:54of Charles and Anthony.
34:56We were in the process
34:57of drafting
34:58the arrest warrant
34:59and they were aware
35:00that they were being
35:00investigated for the
35:01murder of Byron.
35:02It was tough.
35:13We're dealing
35:14with the family
35:15collapse.
35:16My mom had left
35:17my stepdad
35:18Dave for Tony
35:19and now
35:20this murder
35:21investigation
35:22is fully
35:23happening
35:24and like
35:24Charles and Anthony
35:26are suspects.
35:27But they were
35:28always assuring me
35:28that this was nothing
35:29and it was going
35:31to go away.
35:34Charles was
35:35just
35:36absolutely
35:38wrought.
35:40Anger,
35:41fear,
35:41stress
35:42and you could
35:43just see it
35:44on him.
35:46Charles called
35:47and he told me
35:48Anthony had left him
35:49and that
35:50they were going
35:51to be charged
35:52with murder
35:52and picked up
35:53the next day.
35:54So he said
35:55you need to come
35:56get your dad's
35:56coins.
35:57CBI told me
36:00to go then
36:01but I was
36:02scared
36:02and I didn't
36:03trust Charles.
36:05We knew
36:06that Charles
36:06and Anthony
36:07were accused
36:08of killing
36:10Byron
36:10so we took
36:11Harry Tomlin
36:12with us
36:13just to be
36:14safe.
36:15I am
36:16legally
36:16allowed to
36:17conceal
36:18Carrie
36:19so I
36:21brought a weapon
36:21with me.
36:23Basically
36:23I was their
36:23guardian angel.
36:27Charles
36:28and Tony
36:29lived
36:29in a big
36:30beautiful
36:31Victorian home
36:32that they
36:33had restored.
36:36It was the
36:37first and only
36:37time I had
36:38ever been
36:38in their
36:38house.
36:39We weren't
36:40allowed to
36:40go to
36:41the secret
36:42room.
36:43Charles
36:44and his
36:44friend
36:44were bringing
36:45everything
36:45to the
36:46living room.
36:47When the
36:48state quarters
36:48came out
36:49there's 50
36:51states
36:52my dad
36:53had bought
36:53four boxes
36:54of each.
36:56They gave
36:56me back
36:5660 boxes.
36:59A couple
37:00pennies
37:00whatever.
37:01It was
37:01nothing
37:02compared
37:02to what
37:02they took
37:03but Charles
37:04said nothing.
37:07No
37:07explanation
37:08as to where
37:09my dad's
37:09money went.
37:11I was told
37:12there was
37:12a million
37:12dollars worth
37:13of coins
37:13but there
37:14was a
37:15semantial
37:16amount
37:16missing.
37:18When Charles
37:18and Anthony
37:19came out
37:19to the farm
37:20to get
37:21Byron's
37:21coins they
37:22used a
37:23very heavy
37:23duty van.
37:25Charles
37:25and Anthony
37:26loaded that
37:26van until
37:28it was
37:29squatting.
37:30So you
37:31knew that
37:32you were
37:32getting to
37:33capacity.
37:35When we
37:36went to
37:37pick up
37:37the coins
37:38we had
37:39just a
37:39regular
37:40pickup truck
37:41and it
37:43didn't even
37:44fill half
37:45of the bed.
37:46Like the
37:46truck didn't
37:47squat at
37:47all.
37:49Charles
37:49kept saying
37:50I wanted
37:50to show
37:50you
37:51something.
37:52He kept
37:52trying to
37:53get me
37:53alone
37:54in the
37:56dining room
37:57area but
37:58I was scared
37:59of him and
37:59I didn't want
38:00to be in
38:00the room
38:00alone with
38:01him.
38:02Harry made
38:02sure that
38:03that didn't
38:03happen.
38:05None of us
38:05were ever
38:06alone with
38:07Charles.
38:13As we
38:13were driving
38:14back from
38:15Florence I
38:16called CBI
38:17and told
38:18him what
38:18all had
38:18happened and
38:19everything and
38:21after I hung
38:22up we kept
38:23driving.
38:28And when we
38:28got about
38:29Pueblo West
38:30the passenger
38:31side window
38:32just shattered.
38:35Somebody came
38:36up and shot
38:37out the side
38:37window and
38:39then sped
38:41it off and
38:42then at the
38:42next light
38:43flipped around
38:44and went back
38:45towards Florence.
38:49I don't know.
38:50I think I'm
38:50lucky that I
38:51wasn't shot that
38:52night.
38:52the next day
39:02I was trying
39:03to get a hold
39:04of Charles.
39:04I had some
39:05questions about
39:06the funeral
39:07home.
39:08I had chatted
39:09with Pam at
39:10the restaurant
39:11and Pam was
39:12trying to get
39:13hold of him
39:13also.
39:15I got a call
39:16from Angela
39:17who was running
39:18the mortuary.
39:19She said she
39:20hadn't heard
39:20from Charles
39:21and she wanted
39:22me to meet
39:23her over at
39:24the house and
39:25I told her
39:25absolutely not.
39:27I'm sorry I
39:28can't.
39:30But Tony brought
39:32Pam the key to
39:33the house and
39:34we drove out
39:35to the house.
39:37We were really
39:38kind of hoping
39:38the car wouldn't
39:39be there and
39:40he'd just be
39:40somewhere.
39:41But the car was
39:42there and so
39:42we went in and
39:43we couldn't find
39:44him upstairs.
39:51and we went
39:52downstairs and
39:55found him in
39:55the downstairs
39:56bathroom.
40:03My friends
40:04and I were
40:05going by Charles'
40:07house and there's
40:10ambulances
40:11everywhere.
40:13I pull over
40:14just enough
40:17time to watch
40:17them
40:18pull him out
40:27on the
40:27stretcher and
40:27I was like
40:28what the
40:28there's a lot
40:40of unanswered
40:41questions about
40:41this case.
40:43It would be
40:44nice if somebody
40:45stepped up and
40:45answered for what
40:47they did.
40:48The questions
40:49that I still have
40:5012 years later
40:50is ridiculous.
40:52It's suspicious
40:53that Charles
40:54passed away.
40:55somebody wanted
40:56him dead.
40:58I think it
40:58was a suicide
41:00because he
41:00didn't want to
41:01have to go
41:01through prison
41:02time.
41:05The big
41:06unanswered
41:07question I have
41:08is what really
41:09happened to
41:09Charles?
41:11Was he involved
41:12with Byron's
41:12murder?
41:13And what
41:14happened to
41:15all of Byron's
41:16gold?
41:17Where did it
41:18go?
41:20Where did
41:20it all go?
41:25Where did
41:26go?
41:26Her
41:52Was God
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