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Seth and Sean discuss if they'd even want to see CJ Stroud in game action on Sunday if he passed concussion protocol and what we might see from Davis Mills in CJ's likely absence.
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00:00Big day today, concussion update today, so we'll hear more from the Texans.
00:05I've had multiple people ask me if CJ's playing this week,
00:08and I take it as a compliment that they think that I have way more inside information than I do,
00:13or that they think that I'm actually a team neurologist.
00:16What do you tell them?
00:17I tell them I lie.
00:19I say, yeah, I've got it on a good source that he's definitely playing.
00:23I don't think...
00:26They're using me for gambling information.
00:28Yeah, you've got to watch out these days.
00:30And then I self-report.
00:31Yeah, self-report.
00:32Yeah, you don't go with Jerry Sneed on it.
00:35You don't just keep the information to yourself.
00:40I'm not sure I want CJ to play this weekend,
00:42and I think from the conversations you and I have had on this very program,
00:46it sounds like you're of that mind, too.
00:47Let the brain simmer for another week here.
00:51Somebody on X said to me,
00:54if the Texans can't beat the Titans without CJ Stroud,
00:59then they don't deserve to be in the playoffs anyway.
01:03I don't know if deserve is a thing, but they're not going anywhere if that's a thing.
01:05Right, deserve is a thing.
01:07Yeah, they're not going anywhere.
01:09If they're a team that can't overcome the challenge of playing the Tennessee Titans on the road and winning,
01:15a team that only has won one game this season by the most flukish of circumstances
01:20and has since gotten even worse since they won that Cardinals game,
01:25that, yeah, what are you even doing?
01:27Now, even as I say that, I feel a little bit dirty because, look,
01:31every year one of the best teams in the league gets beat by one of the worst teams in the league.
01:37Sure.
01:37Yeah, it's just that's the way life is in the NFL, so you never take any opponent lightly.
01:41Nope.
01:41But if there's unless unless CJ has cleared the concussion protocol by today,
01:47I don't want to see him.
01:49Like, he needs to have a full week of practice with all of the concussion residue seeped out
01:55and sweat out his pores before he gets back on a football field, in my mind.
01:59Yeah, and I, you know, they're the information is out there.
02:02It's all the different stages.
02:05You have to pass.
02:07Well, some of it, I mean, technically, right.
02:09To clear the protocol, he has to actually do some practice activities.
02:13So, but to be like, I want him to have no symptoms and everything and get to that point
02:18where you can sail through on Wednesday practice, all of those other steps.
02:23So he wouldn't technically be out of the concussion protocol by today.
02:26Yeah.
02:26But the like the physical side of it, the symptomatic side of it,
02:30that's what I'd want to be completely in the chair.
02:31Sure, sure, sure.
02:32So, and I agree with whoever was saying, anybody that says, if they, you know,
02:37they don't beat the Titans with Davis Mills at quarterback, then they're not, they ain't
02:41going anywhere anyways.
02:42And look, it's a long shot that they're going anywhere, even with a win against the Titans.
02:47You win this game against the Titans, the odds are you're still going to be on the outside
02:51looking in of the playoff picture come Monday.
02:54Now, if you beat the Titans and the Broncos do a little service for you and beat the
02:59Chiefs and the Jags lose to the Chargers, guess who, guess who wakes up?
03:03I'm told, guess who wakes up as the seventh seed on Monday morning?
03:07You're Houston Texans, baby.
03:08Yeah, that's right, baby.
03:09Yeah, man.
03:10Just so people know, there's five steps to the concussion protocol.
03:12The fifth and final step is full football activity.
03:15That's when they, he can practice and then gets checked for symptoms.
03:21Yeah.
03:21And then is cleared.
03:22So if theoretically he'd already in phase four is non-contact training drills, so he
03:27could be doing stuff right now and that's participating in all non-contact practice
03:32drills with the team.
03:33So that's, he'd be out there.
03:35Yeah.
03:35Yeah.
03:36Yeah.
03:36So like today and tomorrow, it might be that if he gets through the first three phases,
03:40he still has to go out and do some stuff with the team before he can be complete out
03:47the day.
03:47There's a good chance.
03:48He's not playing on Sunday.
03:49Right.
03:49Like that's the thing.
03:50Yeah, because then that puts it into phase four and five you got to do on Thursday and
03:54Friday.
03:54Yeah.
03:54And what are you even planning on then?
03:56Yeah.
03:56Yeah.
03:57Which phase is the one where you have to go apologize to everybody of the concussion
04:01protocol?
04:01Oh, no.
04:02Yeah.
04:02You're mixing it up, Sean, I believe, with our apology, our steps to an apology.
04:07Oh, oh, oh.
04:08No, no, no.
04:08Oh, I know.
04:09I'm mixing it up because then there's, I was going to ask, when do you count your blessings?
04:12I'm mixing it up with Alcoholics Anonymous.
04:14Oh, is that what it is?
04:15Okay.
04:16Yeah, yeah, yeah.
04:17That's, I had those two mixed up.
04:18I'm like, yeah, step one is where you've got to make sure that your pupils are dilated
04:23properly.
04:24Step two is when you're able to do classroom work.
04:27Step three is your apologies to everybody.
04:29And then you have to do a light work outside, non-contact, full practice, and then count
04:34your blessings.
04:34I would imagine that in the NFL, there have been at least a few guys who are simultaneously
04:38going through a 12-step process and the concussion protocol.
04:42CJ's in the concussion protocol.
04:45Why is he walking around apologizing to everybody?
04:48Maybe this is why CJ's talking about God all the time.
04:50Right.
04:51Step five.
04:52He's counting his blessings.
04:53Yeah.
04:53No, yeah.
04:55Well, there's a few steps that are the God steps.
04:57Oh, are there?
04:58Okay.
04:58Well, I think they say higher power in Alcoholics Anonymous, but there's, that's a good way
05:03to make some money, by the way, Sean.
05:04You basically take the Alcoholics Anonymous steps and repurpose them with some different
05:09verbiage and then call it the Pendergast recovery plan.
05:12Dude, that'll be, that's the plan B.
05:15That's my kind of PRP right there.
05:18All right.
05:18So we'll have an eye on the concussion victims today on the injury report.
05:24D'Amico would say, actually, because Davis Mills, a backup quarterback, may need to play again
05:31this weekend.
05:32The mentality of backup quarterbacks, according to D'Amico Ryans.
05:35I mean, backup quarterback, you're a coach.
05:37Like, really, you are a coach that can possibly get in.
05:40We don't want the coach getting in.
05:42So the backup quarterback, you talk about preparation, like how much you have to be on it because,
05:49you know, you're not getting those reps in practice.
05:52You want the starting quarterback to get all the reps to make sure everything's in sync.
05:57And so you're over, you're doing scout team reps.
05:59You're trying to make those work, make them as realistic as possible.
06:02But to actually go through the huddle calls, the cadence, commands, changing protections
06:07at the line of scrimmage, it's a lot.
06:09As a backup quarterback, you don't get the reps in the week and then you're thrust into
06:13a game and you're expected to go do a great job.
06:15Well, I think that's where Davis truly benefited from having the week of preparation.
06:20And that's what I kind of talked about last week.
06:22Him having a full week of preparation allowed him to be in a position, right, to go and play
06:27a good game for us.
06:28As he was talking about that, it immediately made me think of my favorite position in all
06:34of sports, which is bullpen catcher, which is, you are, for the Astros, it's still Brock
06:40Amani, I think, right?
06:41I think it is, yeah.
06:42Yeah.
06:43Like, where you're a coach, technically, but you get to dress in the uniform and everything
06:47and actually catch balls and do all that stuff.
06:51That's what, the backup quarterback in a lot of regards is kind of like the bullpen catcher
06:55in baseball, where, obviously not directly the same, but your day-to-day physical activity
07:02is much less about preparing for the upcoming, and you're in all the meetings, but when you're
07:09running the scout team and working off of cards, sometimes trying to mimic the process
07:15of other quarterbacks and everything, it's way, way different than actually preparing
07:19for a football game.
07:20Yeah.
07:20So the intellectual understanding of the game plan, it's not as simple as, oh yeah, I got
07:25the game plan, I know what I'm doing, versus actually going through all those reads and
07:29running your actual plays the whole week.
07:31It's a big difference.
07:32And Davis strikes me, and I think it was John Harris might have made this point when he sat
07:37down with us on Texans Countdown on Sunday, that not all backup quarterbacks are wired
07:42the same way.
07:43There are some that can come in, figuratively, in the middle of an inning with guys on base.
07:50I'm comparing them to relief pitchers here.
07:52Ryan Fitzpatrick's a guy that felt like, especially early in his career, just plunk him down in
07:56one of these games, and he's just going to go out and do fitzy things.
07:59If you're a little bit of a gunslinger.
08:01Yes.
08:01If you're not a cerebral guy, then your process isn't screwed up by not having that cerebral
08:08preparation.
08:09Davis is the opposite of that, probably.
08:11Which I know, people are right now texting in, he went to Harvard, right?
08:15He wasn't a cerebral quarterback early in his career.
08:17No.
08:17He did a lot of stupid stuff.
08:18He did.
08:18Like, really stupid stuff.
08:20He absolutely did.
08:21Yeah.
08:22Talking about Fitzpatrick.
08:23Yeah, Fitzy.
08:24Well, you know, Davis has had his moments on the field.
08:27Well, yeah, Davis was on Stanford, yeah, yeah.
08:28No, but Davis is much more just by personality type.
08:31You can tell if there's, he reads the manuals to things.
08:35Not a gunslinger.
08:36But he puts them together.
08:37Yeah.
08:37He's a, if you get him, I don't know if he's got kids yet or not, but when he has to put
08:42together a crib, he's consulting the manual.
08:47Most of us backasses.
08:48Yep.
08:48You know, who weirdly think that a manual is somehow less manly than, yeah.
08:54This is one of the dumbest things we do.
08:56Yeah.
08:57Instructions.
08:58I'm a big, I'm a big instruction manual guy.
09:01The thing that gets me sideways sometimes is when they list the number of different parts
09:05and pieces that are supposed to be in a, in a box and there's, and it doesn't match
09:10the numbers.
09:10It's the, even when there's more, I'm like, why are there these three extra screws in here?
09:15You know, really all I have to do is throw them away, but I'm like, why are they in here?
09:18Should I be using these right now?
09:20Learning, learning to read the manual before I attempted to either assemble or repair things
09:25is honestly, when I forced myself to do that, that, that is better than any 12 step program
09:31in the world.
09:32The things that it took for me to, to learn how to slow down and to prepare beforehand and
09:37take inventory and everything.
09:38I do feel like that ebbed over in a good way into other parts of my life.
09:42I can see that.
09:43I can definitely see that.
09:44That's going to be my, that's how, that's my, my scheme I'm going to come up with.
09:48Like, uh, and then, but, but at the same time, I'll be having these people assemble products
09:53for me that I then go to sell on Amazon.
09:55Oh my God.
09:56Dude.
09:56Uh-huh.
09:57Shh.
09:57Uh-huh.
09:58Made in the USA.
09:59Yeah.
09:59That's right.
10:00By recovering alcoholics.
10:06That's going to be the sticker.
10:07He's just helping them.
10:09Made in the USA by recovering alcoholics.
10:11He's just helping them, people.
10:13Yes.
10:13All right.
10:14For, out of the good of my heart and for profit.
10:16Yeah.
10:17Yeah, these, yeah, it's, it keeps them focused on something other than alcohol, I would say.
10:22And then we have a big blowout party when we, when we meet our, oh, get blasted.
10:29And then it all starts over again.
10:31Yes.
10:33That's how I keep them employed.
10:34That's how you sustain it, man.
10:36That's how you don't age your business into non-existence, into extinction.
10:40Oh my God.
10:42All right.
10:42One more from D'Amico Ryan's Coaches Show.
10:45So, uh, we're halfway through the season now.
10:48What are your thoughts on the rookie class?
10:50No more rookies.
10:51Like, Woody, like, let's go.
10:53Woody's doing a great job.
10:55We got to continue to feed him more.
10:56Higgins, on the outside, we got, everybody sees, like, this guy's catch radius is insane.
11:01Like, put the ball in his vicinity, he's going to go and get it.
11:04You need a big play.
11:06Who shows up on fourth down?
11:08It's Jalen Noel showing up when we needed it most to make that play.
11:12So, these guys are, are not rookies.
11:14They're making plays in the, in the critical times of a game.
11:18Crunch time.
11:19We need it most.
11:20We're counting on the rookies.
11:21Tay is doing a great job there at left tackle.
11:23Like, continuing to battle down in, down out.
11:26He's getting better as the season is going on.
11:29So, yeah, the rookie, the rookie nameplate is off.
11:32It's, it's like, let's go.
11:33And how can we finish this season the right way?
11:35The one thing that I'm curious about in terms of how they ran the offense versus, you know,
11:41how they've been running the offense earlier in the season is just the use of pre-snap motion.
11:46And they were kind of static with it early on.
11:50I, I, it felt to me like they, I don't know if they used it more or the same as in previous games,
11:56but it was definitely really effective at times.
11:59That fourth and two that Davis hit Jalen Noel wide open in the flat there, that was because of it.
12:06Because of the yo-yo motion and the Jaguars, the Jaguars defenders got confused and Jalen Noel is left wide open.
12:14I, I hope that's a sign of more things like that to come.
12:18I also just, I, like, I hope that CJ saw that and sees and realizes how effective that part of it is.
12:25You know, that it's like, this has been a work in progress trying to get everything assimilated.
12:32And when you have rookies too, where you want them to use a lot of pre-snap motion while also reading the defense,
12:38it's, it's tough for those guys.
12:40It's tough for those young guys to absorb all that.
12:42And hopefully by, you know, D'Amico saying they're not rookies anymore, they can run more of the full offense.
12:47That's just, so you're saying that's just a logical thing that you got these rookies, you're counting on them here,
12:51and it's early in the season.
12:53The fewer moving parts, the less they have to wrap their brain around.
12:56Yeah.
12:56Yeah.
12:56It makes sense.
12:56I'm still reading the manual, Sean.
12:58You're on step three of my, of my hit assembly line program.
13:02Do you go full manual or if it has like the truncated just pictures version in the front?
13:08Oh, there's a quick start.
13:09Yeah, quick start.
13:09To anything.
13:10I'm using a quick start because I am, I'm in pain.
13:12I want to use whatever trinket I just bought.
13:14Yeah.
13:15But yeah, but then I try to, I've actually gotten to, I read a good chunk of a car manual when I get a new car.
13:21Do you really?
13:22Yeah.
13:22God, I don't think I've opened a page of the car manual ever.
13:25There's so many features that you're not using these days.
13:27I know, and I don't.
13:28There's so many things that make it super easy.
13:29Yeah, yeah.
13:30I'm bad about that.
13:31I could probably, mine probably turns into a spaceship and I don't even know about it.
13:35I've just opened up the damn manual, maybe.
13:37Well, yeah, especially with a lot of the autonomous driving stuff.
13:41Oh, yeah.
13:41Or not autonomous, but the, you know, all that stuff with the cruise control.
13:49That stuff I get, the lane guidance, because my seat starts vibrating if I start, you know, shimmying back and forth.
13:55I know, I was kind of creeped out when we were riding the other day and you were like perpetually making your seat vibrate.
14:00Yeah.
14:01It was like, you kept drifting over to the median to the point where I could tell that it was intentional.
14:06Why is he swaying back and forth in the lane here?
14:09Yeah.
14:09I'm like, don't talk to me, Seth.
14:11I'm swaying back and forth in this lane right here.
14:13I'm swaying back and forth in this lane.
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