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Seth and Sean discuss CJ Stroud being out for Sunday's game vs Jacksonville and dive into some expectations for Davis Mills getting the start at QB.

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00:00The Texans are banged up and injured, and I just want everybody that saw their injury reports to
00:04know and understand that the Jaguars are equally banged up. And if you're going to handicap this
00:11game, they've literally handicapped multiple players on both sides. Lots of handicapped
00:16parking spots. It does feel like an old school, yeah, yeah, they're like, how do we weaken this
00:21team a little bit? I'd botch this one in the knee, mate. You know what you do to support this?
00:26Yeah, that's one of my bookie friends in England. To support the Texans today,
00:34take the day off since they had like 12 guys call in sick yesterday. Not literal sick,
00:41like quad injury sick, concussion sick. There's probably a knee in there somewhere. Are you
00:48looking at the injury report right now? I'm looking at the Jaguars injury report just because I just
00:52said, that's what I knew. They have like Deami Brown, their wide receiver that did some damage
00:56versus Texas. He's injured. Brian Thomas Jr. is injured. They had, by the time they finished the
01:02Raiders game last week, they had five of their week one starters out on the field. One of them,
01:06five out there. Yeah. Only five guys out on the field. And I think five, four of them are probably
01:13going to, there's a good chance they missed this week. Some of them were like Eric Murray's on IR.
01:16Yeah. But one of them was, what's his name? The defensive end, Trayvon Walker. Thank you.
01:23Trayvon Walker had punched somebody and he got ejected. Okay. He's healthy. He didn't break his
01:27hand or anything. Okay. Damn it. Damn it. But the Texans, you know what? The Texans injury list
01:31is a little bit longer. Well, there, there were the concerning thing. We'll get to CJ Stroud in a
01:35second. Well, you know, spoiler alert. A lot of you have probably seen this already. CJ is not going
01:40to play on Sunday. Not that we were expecting him to, but D'Amico confirmed it. In fact, let's play this
01:44now. We go through the rest of the injury list here, the walking wounded for the Texans. Some
01:48not walking either. Here's D'Amico Ryans yesterday confirming CJ will not play this week. For where
01:54we are right now with the concussion protocol, I do not see CJ playing this week. Okay. And
01:59then he reconfirmed it a couple of questions later. He is not going to play this week. Also confirmed
02:03Kiami Fairbairn will not be kicking this week. Yeah. Kiami is dealing with a quad injury right
02:09now. We'll see how he progresses right now. We have Matt. Matt's been in the league. He's
02:13kicked on a game. I decided to be able to get a guy of his caliber here, knowing that
02:20Emy will be down. That was the end, yeah. Yeah. Like, I'm listening to him. I'm like,
02:24all right, maybe Emy's kicking. We'll see how he progresses. And then at the end, he goes,
02:28knowing that Emy will be down. And then somebody, fortunately, and I apologize. Jonathan and
02:32Alexander. Jonathan and Alexander. Somebody follows up. And so just to be clear, you say Emy is
02:38down, he will, or won't be kicking. Oh no, he's not going to be kicking. Oh God. No.
02:43It's not like a doctor giving you a long, a long detailed explanation of how, how he performed the
02:49surgery. And at the end he was like, but I mean, he died. Yeah. Building up your hopes.
02:54Is that what you were waiting for? Building up your hopes too. He's like, we'll see how he progresses.
02:57I'm like, Oh, Oh, and he'll be down. Oh. And then the reconfirm. Bam. Like the left hits you. And then the
03:02right hits you. Yeah. And look, this is an offense as, uh, as, uh, as we all know, it is it's death
03:07by a thousand field goals. And you, it's hard if you've got this guy who's been on how many
03:13different teams has he been? I can't even count. Who was a Texans player. We had a couple of years
03:16ago who had basically been on every single team. Was it a kicker? No, it was somebody else. Somebody,
03:21one of our listeners will remember. It was kind of astounding when you looked at the,
03:24the totality. Yeah. And that's a little bit like this fella. This guy, Matt writes, I'll find it.
03:29We'll need a whole segment to go through all the teams, but, um, this is concerning. These are
03:33the CJ Stroud and Kymie Fairbairn are generally speaking, the two guys that generate points for
03:37this team. Yeah. You know, CJ with his arm and Kymie with his legs. See when you stall out on the
03:42one yard line, if you, if you choose to kick on fourth down, which I think I've turned into a
03:48person that with this team. Yeah. Go ahead and just, uh, kick it please. Yeah. So it's, that's a 24 yard
03:53field goal from the one yard, 24 yard field goal. Can you handle that? I'm
03:59guessing you can handle that. Matt, right. Yeah. I have enough teams of enough teams of,
04:03uh, you know, you want his, you want his numbers? Good to have Cody posted his numbers. I'll get
04:07him here. My, my, uh, my, my Google spreadsheet is acting up right now, but his numbers aren't
04:11that bad. Yeah. I mean, he's no, no, no. I kind of look at kickers as commodities. Yes. Every now
04:17and then there's a great one, but I generally just, I don't, I don't form an emotional attachments
04:22to them. They're just widgets to me. Probably smart. They're just widgets. That's probably all right.
04:26Good. You're like, I'll just, I'll choose. You better not screw up because then I'll learn
04:30your name. Okay. He's the, can I titillate you with some of this? Matt, Matthew, right.
04:34Who, by the way, this, this game is a one and a half point spread for the Texans. This game
04:39could very well come down to the two kickers. Yes. Um, he's played for seven different teams.
04:44Okay. He's got an 87 and a half percent conversion rate. He's 56 of 64 for his career. That's pretty
04:51good. Yeah. Um, he's seven of 11 from 50 yards or more. Sounds like a steady, reliable convenience
05:00store. I know he's missed just one from under 40 yards. So I feel like Davis mills and Matthew
05:04Wright are kind of in the same boat this week where with mills, it's like, don't turn the ball over.
05:10Yeah. Right. Like you're going to, if you make a few plays, big place here and there, but this is
05:14going to be a close to the vest defensive game. Yeah. Do not turn the ball over. If you're Matthew,
05:19right? This new kicker, like, okay, just don't miss from under 40. If you know, if we, if I don't
05:25know if you've been watching the Texans, your, your new teammates, Matthew, they stall out a lot in the
05:30red zone. Yeah. A lot. Yeah. And stay loose on the sideline. Yes. You're going to be needed.
05:36That's major. He were ready to kick five field goals. So you be ready. And like we're telling Davis,
05:41don't turn the ball over. We're telling you do it. Cause a missed field goal under 40 is basically
05:45like a turnover, you know, it's like a turnover on downs. So, um, don't do that. He's missed just
05:50two extra points in 45 attempts. I feel like that's better than Kaimi has been over the last
05:54couple of years. They warm on the sideline. Use that aerodyne bike. Um, the exercise bands. Yeah,
06:00man. I think it was Brian Pitt. Brian Pittman used to have like a long workout routine. He'd do
06:05on the sidelines. I believe I remember, but I know Brian listens to the show. At least sometimes
06:10you can text me if I'm wrong on this because my brother's friends, uh, they had good seats. So
06:15one of our games, like right up behind the bench and they were fascinated by his, all the stuff he
06:21did during the downtime, career long of 59 yards for Matthew. Sorry, Brian Pitt was a long snapper,
06:27not a kicker. Yeah. But a specialist specialist. Yeah. Um, career long of 59 yards for Matthew,
06:32right? That's good. That's not the record breaking 68 yards of, uh, cam little. Wait, no cam. Uh,
06:40what's a little. Yeah. Cam little. Cam little. Yeah. Um, cam little, the Jaguars kicker kicked
06:45the 68 yard or broke the record, but he also had been really erratic leading up to that.
06:50Yeah. If the Texans have an advantage right now, it really might be that this journeyman
06:55kicker might be more steady and reliable than the guy who just broke the record for longest
07:01field goal. Yeah. Cause cam little was just, I talked to Bucky Brooks yesterday who does their
07:05sideline commentary for the Jaguars. And he said before going into that game and before that kick
07:09cam little looked like a broken man. Well, like in warmups and snow, just even so erratic in games
07:19that, um, you're wondering and worried about his confidence. Okay. Yeah. But he went out and nailed
07:23that one. I maybe, you know what? You can have your big boomer 68. I don't mean boomer age. I'm
07:28talking like, you know, your big leg, 68 yard guy. We'll take our guy that just knocks down the
07:32mid range. Listen back in my clarity, man. If you had the, if you had the field goal record
07:39back in my day, you only had one and a half feet. All right. You had half a foot and you
07:46hammered the ball like a Jack hammer my damn or like a, like a, like a horse. Yeah. Like
07:52a Clydesdale that had kicked it with its hoof. Look at you, Kim little with all five of your
07:56toes. Ooh, that was the weirdest thing growing up. Wasn't it just now and then you'd see the,
08:01the pictures of Tom Dempsey. That was the first time I ever double check social media
08:06to see if that was fake news or not. This Dempsey guy. If that had come on. Yeah. If
08:10it was in the age of social media, you would have thought for sure that was fake. Yeah.
08:13It was cause the kids were a hundred percent serious here. He had half a foot, half a foot
08:16and the picture that was always, did you get the Guinness book of world records every
08:19year? Like I did it when you were doing book orders at school and he'd always thumb open
08:24to the picture of the two fat twins on the mopeds. Right. Uh, that wasn't my kink,
08:30but yeah, no, no, no. But I'm saying like, are they still the fattest twins ever? Oh,
08:34I don't remember that. Yeah. They were the fattest twins ever. I got, sorry. I got distracted
08:38by the mopeds. I didn't realize that they weren't the fattest twins to ride mopeds. They
08:41were always riding mopeds in the picture. Yeah. It was, they were always riding mopeds.
08:45Um, the dude who had the longest fingernails. Oh, they, they were the fingernail guy. What
08:49the hell? Guinness book of world records. And for those, it was disgusting. The guy
08:52had to carry his hands around on a pouch. It looked like he had five snakes. So that guy,
08:58there was always the picture of the tallest human being ever standing next to the shortest
09:02adult ever. That was always a good one. And, um, and yeah. And then Tom Dempsey with, uh,
09:07with half a boot sitting there kicking a 63 yard field goal for the Saints by far the least
09:12freakish of any of the people you just mentioned. He would have drawn the smallest crowd at the
09:17circus of all of them. Right. Step right up and see my half a foot kicker. I'm like, no,
09:21I'm over here looking at snake hands over here. He lived in a time when there was just a boatload
09:25of world war one and world war two veterans walking around who, you know, had just had
09:29Oh yeah. Yeah. It's true. It wasn't, it wasn't the only thing remarkable about him was that
09:33he was clubbing, literally clubbing field goals and through, uh, through uprights from ridiculous.
09:40And these weren't looking, these weren't these juiced up modern balls they're using now.
09:44All right. No. And he did it back when the goalposts were on the goal line, not the back. So
09:49that was a, Oh, that must've been an impressive sight. Yeah. How far back it went. It was.
09:53So he kicked it from his own 37 yard line. Cause it was a 63 yarder. I was about to have a club
09:58foot old sethers. Somebody left a pile. I saw that. I almost moved it. Here comes the diabetes
10:04amputation. It's like soon. It's a, it's so it was in the chair that Patrick Creighton sits in
10:10and it's one of those clear cartons of cookies that you get at Kroger H-E-B that has like 20,
10:15the multicolored M&M, the multicolored M&M cookie is strong. I'll help you out with it. I'll eat a
10:19couple of them. I guess as opposed to like, there's never like a uniformly colored M&M's
10:24really. So yeah, that makes sense. Yeah. Yeah. So that's so, so there's like 12 cookies still
10:28left in there. I give you till hour number three to finish all this. It's my day's allotment of
10:33calories right there. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I could do it and cook Greek yogurt on top of one of them
10:38and call it a day. That'll make you feel like sandwich, a Greek yogurt sandwich. It's like an ice cream
10:43sandwich. That's what I feel my worst about myself is when I can't avoid the temptation
10:49of the gas station ice cream sandwich. It's the two, the Nestle's cookies. Yes. So good. It's not
10:55just an ice cream. It's not a thin weight for a chocolate. No, it's two gigantic cookies with a
11:01bunch of ice cream slapped in the middle of it. Oh my God. Oh my God. I can't possibly finish this
11:0612 minute drive without three of those in my belly. I have to have them. Gotta have them. Then I
11:12gotta go out of my way to throw, to throw the wrappers away somewhere. My wife won't see
11:17them. Yep. I gotta go find a third party garbage can. Yeah. Shame. Um, it is a long injury list
11:23for the Texans. We, we talked about CJ. We talked about Kayemi. Will Anderson popped up
11:27on there. He didn't practice yesterday. Uh, Jalen Petrie didn't practice yesterday. There
11:33were a handful of others. Titus Howard. Titus didn't get a, he will not play designation.
11:39Well, and, uh, and so will and will Anderson has a quad, um, but he sat out Wednesday practices
11:45before. So you don't necessarily like sometimes they just need to dial will back a little bit.
11:49Like, yeah, you know, like, Hey man, just like they did in high school and they had, uh, they
11:53had to do it for his team's protection in high school. Yep. I feel like for will the protection
11:57of the little kids will when they, you know, they monitor everybody with their GPS tracking
12:01and everything. And will's, I always wondered about that. Like, man, if you got the wrong kind
12:05of guys on your team, they'll just go ahead and tank it during practice to look like they're
12:10overworked. Oh yeah. Like will's not the kind of guy that you have to worry about with that.
12:14No, no, I'm not, not at all. It's like a different type of speed difference. Yeah.
12:21Um, Nick Chubb didn't practice yesterday. Titus is a will see and he has a concussion also.
12:27I thought it was interesting that CJ is definitely out, but Titus Howard did not get a definitely
12:32out from D'Amico. I think there's, um, I, I wonder if with CJ caution. Yeah. With a quarterback,
12:39I would almost always probably lean towards the man. Yeah. Especially it just leave, give it,
12:45if he's cleared on Friday, just, he needs another week ever since, ever since Brian Horner cleared
12:50the concussion protocol and came out and looked like he had a concussion. Like he just wasn't,
12:54remember that game? He just wasn't processing the ball. He wasn't processing things. Well, I do,
12:58and I'm sure they've improved the protocol since then, but, um, yeah, it just, I, I wouldn't mess
13:03around with a quarterback. All right. So Davis Mills is going to start at quarterback. Here's
13:06D'Amico Ryans on what are the expectations of Davis Mills? Yeah. What I expect from Davis is to,
13:11you know, do what he's done in the past. He's, he started games in his league before,
13:16so there's nothing new for him. Uh, but it is a benefit for him being able to get the reps,
13:22get the, get the reps throughout practice, uh, getting the walkthrough, getting every single
13:26rep that he can get, you know, getting on the same page with the receivers, getting the,
13:32the huddle, getting the snap count, all those little things, right? Getting the operation down
13:36the proper way. He's done a good job of that today. He did an outstanding job. Uh, thought we were
13:41efficient in and out of the huddle, uh, at the line of scrimmage. He did a great job of communicating.
13:46Uh, so I'm, I'm excited to see, you know, Davis go play. Yeah, the, the week of preparation is big,
13:51and it's, I don't think that needs a boatload of explanation.
13:57You just, uh, it's tough to go in and be as sharp and as crisp and everything. Yeah. There's a,
14:01there's a reason that CJ Stroud gets a bunch of reps. And it's the reason the backup quarterback
14:05doesn't get that many reps in practice. It's really important for the quarterbacks and the
14:08receivers. I think this, this week and D'Amico touches on this in, um, one of these clips here,
14:14the, all the pre-snap stuff is good. And, you know, Davis has done all that. And this offense has
14:21some similarities to Bill O'Brien's offense. Um, so, which they were right, you know,
14:26they were running a version of that with Tim Kelly back in 21. So I think that the big question
14:32is just, does he, is he calm, cool and collected after the snap? And it looked like during the game,
14:37he was just kind of sped up a little bit and going, and he was doing a good job getting
14:40the ball out of his hands really fast, but there were times where he needs to slow it down. And
14:45maybe with CJ, it's like, Hey, CJ, take the first read when it's there. Yeah.
14:49With Davis, I think it might've been like, let's get this ball out. I'm, I'm throwing to the first
14:53read, whether it's open or not. Yeah. He drew a lot of tight window throws when, when he did have
14:57time and he could have waited and just let him come to him a little bit. The thing that concerns,
15:01and we'll, we have that cut right here. In fact, let's play it here. And I'll give you my thoughts
15:04about Davis. This is D'Amico. What did you see from Davis in, uh, in the game last week?
15:09Davis is a, he's a super, super smart guy, sharp guy, just seeing how he operates in the huddle.
15:14And they just saying how he can fix things when we're not all the way right.
15:19When guys are coming out of the huddle, they have questions. Davis gets it fixed
15:22very quickly, uh, articulates it very well in the huddle. And now it's about post snap,
15:28like post snap. Can we go through, can we make the proper reads? Can we get to the right spot
15:32with the football? And can we just execute, right? What I,
15:37we just all have to do our job. Nobody has to step up, do anything different. Everybody just has to
15:42execute and do their job. What they're, what they're here for is to go out and play good football. And
15:47that's all we're expecting them to do. I love how D'Amico makes the quarterback position sound
15:51like he's just the jackhammer guy at a construction site.
15:53Yeah. Davis doesn't have to do much. Do his job. He's just a quarterback in the NFL. Like
15:58what's the big deal? If you go back and look at, this was his second best quarterback rating ever.
16:03This was his highest quarterback rating in a win. It was the chargers at the Texans the day after
16:08Christmas. That was a big upset, man. That was the Cully year. And the chargers were still in the hunt
16:13for the post season. Texans defeated the chargers 41 to 29. That was the Rex Burkhead game. I think
16:19Rex Burkhead went off in that. Burkhead had a hundred and I think it was 106, 149 yards and
16:25two tutties. I was like, I think we got a future with this young whippersnapper Burkhead
16:30felt toting the rock. Felt dirty saying, Tutty. I hate that. Two touchdowns.
16:33Yeah. Sounds too much like Teddy, like a Teddy, like Rex Burkhead was wearing a cute little
16:40Teddy as he scored. He ran for 149 yards. But that was like, so Davis Mills on the day
16:45was 21 for 27, 254 yards, two touchdowns. Davis was good. The last five games of his
16:51whole, the whole last five games of his rookie year, he was good. Yeah. They went two and three
16:55and he, and he had good numbers that, but that was his best one. You're absolutely right.
16:58Like if, like if the, if the last five games of rookie year, Davis Mills walks through the door,
17:03the Texans will win the game on Sunday against Jacksonville. I think this is a
17:07they're favored. I mean, it's a very winnable game for the Texans, regardless of who's a quarter.
17:12No. And in both these teams, I think their fan bases feel pretty similar,
17:17except, but it doesn't, they they've got issues. You know, Trevor, Trevor Lawrence is just still not
17:22looking. He's looking very inconsistent. He doesn't, he doesn't look like he's super comfortable in that
17:28offense. They had a boatload of turnovers the first few games early on. Right. They had a
17:32boatload of turnovers the first few games. And that was a lot of what drove them to some of those
17:36victories. The last three games, I think they've got one takeaway. Yeah. They just haven't, which
17:40we predicted at the time. All right. These things balance out. Yep. I guess the one thing we got to
17:45get out, but like, no, the, the one thing about this past weekend is that it got worse as the game
17:50went on for Davis. I would have liked it better if like by the end of the game, you know,
17:53he and Nick Caley had figured a few things out, but it looked like they were losing the chess match to
17:57Vance Joseph in that game. So we'll see what the Jags have for.

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