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In this episode, we discuss the Undertaker's influence over Lucha Libre AAA Worldwide, NXT Stars ready to be called up to the main roster, Update the Ridge Holland situation, and discuss where the AEW / Warner Brothers Discovery Sale is at this point. All of this and the rest of the news including fantasy booking participants for John Cena's Final Match!
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02:51Let's look at the news for the day.
02:53And the big thing I think that's really, like, rubbing me the wrong way this week
02:56is the situation with Ridge Holland and WWE.
03:00For those who have been sleeping under a rocker, have no idea what I'm talking about.
03:03Ridge Holland, former NXT superstar, former rugby player,
03:07called up to the main roster, part of the Brawling Brutes.
03:10He's the guy who accidentally broke Big E's neck
03:13and then eventually transitioned back to NXT
03:16and has recently been released from WWE.
03:18Let's add some context to that whole little vine there that I went down.
03:23When this gentleman was on the main roster,
03:25he voluntarily went to management and asked for a demotion to NXT
03:29and negotiated to take $200,000 less salary to help out
03:35to go down and re-tweak his character,
03:39build more recognition, more clout to his character in NXT
03:43to then later be called back to the main roster.
03:46He goes down to NXT, gets injured, out for, oh, I guess about eight, nine months,
03:52comes back, gets into another storyline.
03:53At one point, won the Tag Team Championship in NXT with Chase U,
03:57only to turn on them.
03:59But eventually, what we get to is he goes to TNA Wrestling
04:03with no additional pay for performing in TNA shows,
04:06and he gets injured in TNA and is on the shelf, out of action.
04:10WWE comes to him and tells him that they are not going to renew his contract.
04:16The issue is his contract is scheduled to expire November 14th of this year,
04:21long before he's able to earn a living as a professional wrestler elsewhere
04:26because of the injury he suffered while not getting paid,
04:30doing extra duty, helping TNA in this WWE-TNA partnership.
04:34I did see on the Wrestling Observer YouTube channel
04:40where Dave Meltzer had made reference to the fact
04:43that he felt that WWE was looking to possibly cut Ridge Holland
04:46before he went back to NXT
04:48and that this was a way to keep his job and then try to reinvent himself,
04:52and I appreciate all that,
04:53but it really doesn't change how I feel about this.
04:55This is a guy who got hurt on the job,
04:58and now he's being left out to dry.
05:00He was online.
05:01He was complaining about how he's really screwed here.
05:04He has no income coming in now,
05:06and he can't work.
05:07He can't sustain himself.
05:08He's worried about losing his house.
05:10All this other stuff, he had some profanity thrown in there,
05:12and if you tune into this show often,
05:14you know I try to deviate away from that kind of stuff,
05:16but at the end of the day,
05:18he was very upset about the situation he's in.
05:22Now, it's bad enough that as of November 14th,
05:24he was going to be without an income,
05:25without much of a way to earn one.
05:27I'll get to that in a minute,
05:28but now because he vocalized his concerns,
05:32WWE has already told him they weren't renewing,
05:34his contract,
05:34but technically he was still under contract,
05:37being paid until November 14th,
05:39and because he spoke out about how frustrated he is,
05:42they've literally ended,
05:44terminated his contract,
05:45and fired him now for cause.
05:47So now,
05:48not only can he not earn money
05:50after his contract runs out,
05:51but his contract is over.
05:53So he loses a couple weeks' pay.
05:54Now, I don't know what that amount of money is.
05:56I really don't,
05:56especially if he took a pay cut
05:57to go down to NXT-level pay,
05:59but at the end of the day,
06:01this reeks of bad business,
06:03not necessarily in that
06:05they were going to probably get rid of the guy anyways,
06:07and he would have had to go figure something else out.
06:09I understand.
06:10Look, accidents happen.
06:11People get hurt in the ring.
06:12I'm not blaming WWE because he got hurt,
06:15but this,
06:16think about the black guy this puts on TKO
06:19and the way they handle business.
06:20Earlier in the year,
06:21Karl Anderson hurts his shoulder.
06:23He's out.
06:24They release him while he's injured.
06:26Now,
06:27Ridge Holland injured.
06:28They release him again.
06:32Professionally speaking,
06:32that is something that Vince McMahon,
06:34for all the things we could say about Vince McMahon
06:35and his character
06:36and the way he handled business,
06:38that is not something Vince McMahon
06:39ever would have done
06:40when he was in charge of WWE.
06:41He would have taken care of talent
06:43until they were able to earn an income,
06:44and then he would have let them go.
06:46Now,
06:46it may seem heartless to still let them go,
06:48but at least they could go out
06:49and earn a living
06:50when they were injured.
06:52Heck,
06:52he got a promotion in AEW.
06:54where Tony Khan hires people
06:55and sits them at home
06:56for months and years at a time,
06:58still earning an income,
06:59and here's TKO,
06:59the biggest company in the world,
07:01making more money than ever
07:02in the history of the business,
07:04and somehow they can't afford
07:05to keep this guy on payroll
07:06for a couple weeks
07:07or even until he recovers.
07:08Now,
07:08he did emphasize
07:09that they are paying
07:10for his medical issues
07:12and PT
07:13and all that kind of stuff,
07:14but it's not enough.
07:15It's just not enough.
07:16Now,
07:17can he downsize?
07:18Can he save his home?
07:20Whatever.
07:20I don't know.
07:20I don't know his situation.
07:21I don't need to know his situation.
07:22What I know is
07:23if I'm a wrestling talent
07:24and I have to choose
07:25between WWE and AEW
07:27and I see that Tony Khan
07:28has who knows
07:29how many people
07:30on the payroll
07:30who still get a paycheck
07:32and who are still
07:33being taken care of
07:34no matter what
07:35their injury status is.
07:36Like,
07:37for example,
07:38in the news today,
07:38Adam Cole.
07:39Adam Cole announced
07:40way back
07:41at Double or Nothing
07:42that he,
07:43when he was TNT champion,
07:44that he had to relinquish
07:45the championship
07:46because he had to deal
07:47with some personal issues.
07:47It's come out since then
07:49that those personal issues
07:50have to do with
07:51concussion issues.
07:52He is still experiencing
07:54concussion issues.
07:55Has no plan.
07:56There are no plans
07:57in AEW
07:57to bring him back
07:58anytime soon,
07:59yet Tony Khan
08:00is still paying him.
08:01And it was noted today
08:02that Tony Khan
08:05expects to try
08:06to keep him
08:06on the roster
08:07as long as possible.
08:09Think about the difference
08:10in approach here.
08:11If I'm a wrestler
08:12who's looking to sign
08:13a new contract,
08:14who do you sign with?
08:15WWE for the huge exposure,
08:18traveling the world,
08:19the fame,
08:20the recognition,
08:21fine.
08:21If that's what motivates you,
08:23I get it.
08:24And I'm not saying
08:25if I was given the opportunity
08:26to go to one or the other,
08:27I wouldn't necessarily
08:28choose WWE either.
08:29However,
08:30if you think about it
08:30from a sustainability standpoint
08:32and look at it
08:32from being able
08:33to take care of your family,
08:35pay your bills,
08:35and know that you're covered,
08:37AEW just became
08:40much more
08:40of a realistic option.
08:42Not to mention
08:43the fact that they're
08:43offering big money contracts
08:45anyways
08:45because Tony Khan
08:46seems to pay very well.
08:47So,
08:48I don't know.
08:48I don't like the look
08:49for WWE.
08:49I understand it to a degree
08:51that they didn't want
08:52to keep him anyways,
08:53but when you wait
08:54until a guy is hurt
08:55and disabled essentially
08:56from being able
08:57to earn a living,
08:58very messed up.
08:59Very, very messed up.
09:00He also referenced
09:01that he may need neck fusion,
09:02all this other stuff.
09:03It's just not a bad situation.
09:05Well wishes out
09:06to Ridge Holland.
09:06He does have a GoFundMe
09:07up there.
09:08I saw a few people
09:09donated to it.
09:10Chelsea Green,
09:11amongst others,
09:12had donated
09:12to his GoFundMe account.
09:13So,
09:15definitely something
09:16to keep an eye on.
09:16I'm really ashamed
09:17to see a guy
09:18who's, you know,
09:19trying to make a go
09:20of this profession
09:21be treated that way.
09:23On the topic of Tony Khan,
09:25got to get into
09:25the other thing
09:26that I feel like
09:26is somewhat controversial
09:27this week.
09:28We have full gear
09:30right around the corner.
09:30We have Tony Khan
09:31coming out on X
09:33this week
09:33speaking about
09:35a new men's championship
09:37being introduced
09:38that they're going
09:39to have a casino
09:40gauntlet match
09:41to crown the first
09:42ever national champion
09:44for AEW.
09:46They compared
09:47the lineage
09:47or the,
09:49basically the history
09:51of the national championship
09:52to that of the NWA
09:55national championship
09:56from back in the day.
09:57They made reference
09:58to the fact
09:58that it'll be defended
09:59in AEW,
10:01in New Japan,
10:01Pro Wrestling,
10:02Ring of Honor,
10:03CMLL,
10:04and the Indies.
10:06Look,
10:06here's the thing.
10:07It's a couple things.
10:08One,
10:09every AEW championship
10:11is able to be defended
10:13anywhere.
10:13And many of them
10:14have been defended
10:15elsewhere before.
10:16So,
10:16I don't feel like
10:17having a championship
10:17that travels
10:18is any different
10:19than anything
10:20you already had.
10:20That's part one.
10:21Part two,
10:22you had
10:22an all-Atlantic
10:24championship
10:24that turned
10:25into the
10:25international championship
10:27that turned
10:27into the
10:28continental championship
10:29that merged
10:30with another
10:33championship
10:34to become
10:34the,
10:35whatever they call it
10:36now.
10:37I don't even know
10:37what the heck
10:37Okada's championship
10:39is called anymore
10:39because of the
10:40unified championship.
10:42So,
10:42now you've got
10:42all these championships
10:43you had before
10:44you rounded up
10:45and wrangled together
10:46to make it
10:46into one championship
10:47and now here comes
10:48another championship
10:49back out.
10:50And somebody made
10:51reference,
10:51I forget which program
10:52it was,
10:52I apologize,
10:53probably on Busted
10:53Open,
10:54talking about how
10:55if it's a
10:55television championship,
10:56isn't that what
10:57the TNT championship
10:58and the TBS
10:59Women's Championship
10:59were?
11:01That's why they're
11:01named after television
11:02networks,
11:03they're essentially
11:03supposed to be
11:04like television
11:04championships.
11:06So,
11:06if they're the
11:07television championships,
11:08is this almost
11:11like the
11:11Intercontinental
11:12or the United
11:12States championship?
11:13And if that's
11:14the case,
11:14look,
11:14I get it,
11:15that's like giving
11:15a MIG card title
11:16and having a TV
11:17title being separate,
11:17but at some point,
11:18like all these
11:19championships,
11:20they have to mean
11:22something.
11:23Now,
11:23I'm in the minority
11:24here,
11:24I'm probably a
11:25suspect that when it
11:26comes to diehard
11:26fans,
11:27there's a lot of
11:27people who are
11:28like we have too
11:28many championships
11:29in wrestling.
11:30When I used to
11:30watch,
11:31and I'm old enough,
11:32I apologize to my
11:33fans who are much
11:33younger than me,
11:34so bear with me on
11:35this boring old
11:35stuff,
11:36but I can remember
11:36watching NWA
11:37Worldwide Wrestling
11:40Saturday mornings and
11:42you would have
11:42people like Tully
11:44Blanchard with the
11:44National Heavyweight
11:45Championship on the
11:46same show with
11:46Arne Anderson,
11:47the NWA World
11:48Television Champion,
11:49with Ole and Arne
11:51being the National
11:52Tag Team Champions,
11:53while Manny
11:54Fernandez and Rick
11:54Rude were the
11:55World Tag Team
11:56Champions,
11:57while Dusty Rhodes
11:58had the
12:00America's
12:00Championship,
12:02and Hawk
12:04Animal and Dusty
12:05were the six-man
12:06Tag Team Champions,
12:07and Ric Flair was
12:07the World Heavyweight
12:08Champion,
12:09and Magnum TA was
12:10the United States
12:11Champion,
12:12and you had the
12:12Western States
12:13Heritage Champion
12:14and the Mid-Atlantic
12:15Champion,
12:16and that was all
12:18within the NWA
12:18umbrella in one
12:19area for those who
12:20don't know anything
12:21about the NWA,
12:22the NWA being a
12:22conglomerate of
12:23massive promotions
12:24all over the
12:25country,
12:25and they all had
12:26their own regional
12:27United States World
12:28Tag Team and
12:29Heavyweight Champions
12:30and America's
12:30Champion and all
12:31that kind of stuff.
12:32That's why when you
12:32go into the record
12:33books and try to
12:33find the lineages
12:34of all these
12:35championships,
12:35it's so difficult,
12:37is because the
12:38NWA World Tag Team
12:40Champions in
12:41Georgia were
12:42different from the
12:42NWA World Tag Team
12:43Champions in Los
12:44Angeles, and they
12:45were different from
12:45the ones in
12:46Detroit, and they
12:47were different from
12:47the ones in
12:48wherever, pick
12:49another location,
12:50you know, and so
12:52when people talk
12:53about how there's
12:53too many championships,
12:54I feel like as
12:55long as you make
12:56the championship
12:57matches feel like
12:58something and give
12:59them genuine
12:59consequence, they're
13:00actually a great
13:01prop to have
13:02because when you
13:03have somebody like
13:04Orange Cassidy, not
13:06in the world
13:07championship picture
13:08right now, he's
13:10held the
13:10international
13:10championship before,
13:12right now he's
13:12not in the picture
13:13for Okada's
13:14championship, what
13:16do you do with
13:16him, and he needs
13:18to be chasing
13:18something, and this
13:19creates something for
13:20him to chase.
13:22The flip side of
13:23that, we do have
13:24another championship
13:25debuting at the
13:26exact same pay-per-view
13:27where we're going to
13:28see the Women's Tag
13:29Team Championship
13:29determined, and that's
13:32a championship that
13:33absolutely deserves to
13:34be there, and I
13:34think they should have
13:35done a while ago, I'm
13:36glad they're doing it
13:36now, but it does start
13:38to feel like, I mean
13:39you have two in this
13:40company, and let's be
13:41honest, Ring of Honor
13:42and AEW are the same
13:43company, I'm tired of
13:44acting like they're not.
13:45You've got two sets of
13:47trios tag championships,
13:49two sets of tag team
13:50championships, two
13:51women's championships,
13:53the TBS slash Ring of
13:54Honor Television
13:55Championship, and an
13:56interim Ring of Honor
13:57Television Women's
13:57Championship.
13:58You've got all the
14:00men's, it's an obnoxious
14:01number of titles, I get
14:02it, it doesn't matter
14:03as long as you love
14:05watching the matches
14:06and they feel like
14:07there's a reason to be
14:08watching them.
14:09When I see Okada and
14:11Kanosuke Takeshi
14:14look like they're going
14:15to come to blows, and
14:16one of them is the
14:17Unified Champion, and
14:18one of them is the
14:19IWGP Champion, that's
14:21exciting.
14:22Those championships
14:23mean something to me.
14:25The TNT Championship
14:26with Kyle Fletcher means
14:27something to me.
14:28Go over to the WWE
14:29side of things.
14:30Dominic Mysterio has
14:31made the Intercontinental
14:32Championship very
14:33prestigious, as did
14:34Gunther previously.
14:36I think he's bringing
14:36prestige to the AAA
14:38Mega Championship.
14:39I think the NXT title
14:40is fine.
14:41I think even the
14:42Evolve stuff is fine.
14:43All the major
14:44championships on the
14:45main roster are fine.
14:46The one that might be
14:47lacking the most, I
14:48think, is the Women's
14:49United States Championship,
14:50and that's just due to
14:51poor booking and lack
14:52of time to really
14:53showcase that championship
14:54on TV and putting
14:55Julia in a bad spot
14:56to begin with.
14:56Should have left the
14:57belt on Chelsea Green
14:58at this point, but I
14:59think championships
15:00are a good thing, so I
15:00don't have a problem
15:01with all the
15:02championships.
15:03I think it's going to
15:03be a good thing down
15:05the line if it's built
15:06correctly.
15:07I will have to wait
15:08and see.
15:08Let's get into some
15:09other conversation.
15:10Tyrus, for those who
15:11don't remember, Tyrus,
15:12former NWA World
15:13Champion.
15:15He was a big thing in
15:17WWE for a hot minute
15:19and then disappeared.
15:20Was in TNA for a little
15:22while, retired now
15:23supposedly, at least for
15:24now, he was speaking
15:27about John Cena's
15:29farewell match, and he
15:31made reference to a
15:32couple people who may
15:33be there for the match
15:36that can be somewhat
15:37controversial, one being
15:39Vince McMahon, since
15:41it's John Cena's final
15:42match, and Vince McMahon
15:43is the one who gave
15:43John Cena this
15:44opportunity to be who
15:46he eventually became.
15:48Tyrus believes that
15:49McMahon needs to be
15:50there.
15:50Maybe not on camera,
15:51but he needs to be
15:52there.
15:52And the other one is
15:53the current president
15:54of the United States,
15:55Donald Trump, who has
15:56a history of being very
15:58closely linked to
15:59professional wrestling,
16:00hosting WrestleManias 4 and
16:015 at Trump Plaza in New
16:03Jersey, being involved in
16:06the Battle of the
16:07Billionaires match with
16:08Umaga and Bobby Lashley
16:10previously, and now, of
16:11course, still a huge
16:12wrestling fan, and that he
16:13may be there.
16:14And the concern of
16:15whether that's going to
16:15be a problem for fans who
16:19are not fans of Donald
16:20Trump or whatnot, it's a
16:22wrestling show.
16:23Donald Trump was a
16:24character before he was
16:25a president.
16:26If you hate him that
16:27much, don't watch the
16:28show.
16:28What do you want from
16:29me?
16:29I'm not here to be
16:30super political.
16:32I hate getting too
16:33political.
16:33I'm a professional
16:34wrestling fan.
16:35I want to see John Cena's
16:36final match, and I
16:36really don't care who's
16:37in attendance.
16:38It's like when people
16:39booed Hulk Hogan out of
16:40the building at his
16:41final appearance when he
16:43promoted the Real
16:44American Beer.
16:45I don't let that outside
16:47stuff impact my pro
16:49wrestling viewership
16:50because we are all
16:51flawed individuals.
16:52Everybody makes
16:53mistakes.
16:54I'm not here to judge
16:54anyone in my faith
16:56system.
16:57I believe that's not my
16:57job.
16:58That belongs to a much
16:59higher person on the
17:00totem pole.
17:00So in the end, I'm going
17:01to enjoy the show.
17:03I don't care if they're
17:04there.
17:04I prefer to not see
17:06them on camera, but if
17:07they're on camera,
17:07whatever.
17:08It is what it is.
17:09It's not going to take
17:10anything away from me.
17:10If it does for you, I'm
17:12really sorry that you
17:12allow politics and things
17:14like that to be so
17:14important that you can't
17:16relax sometimes and have
17:17a good time.
17:17And if that brings me
17:18flack on this channel, I
17:19apologize again, but it's
17:21a wrestling show.
17:22It's meant to have
17:23characters.
17:23It's meant to have
17:24drama and heat.
17:25And some people would
17:27love to see Donald Trump
17:27on the show.
17:28Some would get lots of
17:29heat for having him on
17:29the show.
17:30More power to WWE if
17:31they let him be there.
17:33Some other WWE news,
17:34there's conversation about
17:35three potential main
17:36roster call-ups from
17:37NXT.
17:38Number one on the list
17:39being Jordan Grace, who
17:41is making main roster
17:42money already.
17:44Fightful Select saying
17:45that they believe that she
17:46is a strong candidate to
17:47be called up to the main
17:48roster, followed by
17:49JC Jane, former NXT
17:51women's champion.
17:52She had the championship
17:53for 150 days, and
17:54apparently she is very
17:56strongly being considered.
17:57And the one that kind of
17:57surprised me, it was
17:59referenced as being a
18:00quote, sink or swim
18:02opportunity on the main
18:03roster for Wendy Chu,
18:05who has done everything
18:06from NXT to making a
18:08little dalliance with TNA
18:10to evolve.
18:11Kind of like, hey, we need
18:13to put you up here and see
18:14what you can do and see if
18:15you can make it work.
18:15If not, they'll probably
18:16cut her, but I actually
18:17would like to see all
18:18three of those ladies on
18:19the main roster at some
18:20point.
18:20I think it would be very
18:20interesting.
18:23That being said, I think,
18:25you know, speaking of like
18:27the interesting call-ups
18:28to the main roster and
18:29things of that nature, we
18:30have to get into the John
18:31Cena tournament.
18:32I hated the announcement
18:34of the first two matches,
18:35the Sheamus versus
18:36Nakamura match.
18:37I feel like there's no
18:40pomp and circumstance to it.
18:41John Cena's final match is
18:42not going to be against
18:43Sheamus or against
18:44Shinsuke Nakamura.
18:45WWE would not miss the
18:47opportunity for something
18:48amazing there.
18:50When you go into the
18:51Rusev versus Damian
18:53Priest match, I would have
18:55no problem with Damian
18:57Priest challenging John
18:58Cena just because I feel
18:59like it would be a great
19:00way to elevate somebody who
19:01you never would have
19:02expected to be elevated.
19:03Rusev, I would have been
19:04fine with until he lost so
19:06many matches to Dominic
19:07Mysterio.
19:07So he's not realistic, and
19:08I don't think Damian
19:09Priest is either.
19:10So you start thinking about
19:11who else could be a part of
19:12this.
19:12And when you think about
19:13it, there's not a lot of
19:14names left that you can
19:15really go with that could
19:16be that person or that
19:18group of people to be in
19:20the tournament.
19:20You know, you got to
19:21suspect, you know, we have
19:2214 other spots.
19:24You got to suspect certain
19:25people like potentially
19:26Randy Orton, Drew
19:28McIntyre.
19:30You probably have to look at
19:32somebody like, oh gosh,
19:35what the heck is his name?
19:36Trick Williams from NXT.
19:38Um, I would imagine
19:40Carmelo Hayes would
19:41possibly be involved in
19:42some way, shape, or form.
19:43Maybe the Miz.
19:45Um, then you, then you
19:46got to think about some of
19:47the more, more interesting
19:48ones like Joe Hendry is
19:49probably going to be
19:50involved in some way,
19:51shape, or form.
19:51I would love to see Matt
19:52Cardona involved.
19:54Um, I think those would be
19:55solid ones.
19:56I, I don't love that they
19:58teased like the outside the
20:00company conversation because
20:01let's be honest, TNA really
20:02kind of is within the
20:03company.
20:04Um, AAA, maybe you do
20:06something with Mr. Iguana
20:07or somebody like, you know,
20:09Psycho Clown or Pagano.
20:11Um, but if you really want
20:13to pop the people, ready?
20:15And I, and I'll preface by
20:17saying there is absolutely
20:18zero percent chance that
20:20either of these things
20:21takes place.
20:22Let me just say that up
20:23front because I want
20:23anybody to suddenly think
20:24that like, I'm just insane
20:25and I'm giving you some
20:26crazy prediction.
20:27It's not going to happen.
20:27Of course it's not going
20:28to happen, but that's not
20:29what I'm getting at.
20:30One of two things I won.
20:32And WWE needs to have a
20:35gentleman's conversation
20:36with Tony Khan.
20:37The gentleman's conversation
20:38needs to be, why do we
20:39have to be at odds?
20:40Why do we have to be at
20:41war?
20:41You do what you do well.
20:43We do what we do well.
20:44We do things very
20:45differently.
20:45But in terms of this, we
20:47have an Andrade situation
20:48right now where Andrade
20:49is sitting on the bench
20:50because of this one year
20:51no compete thing, which
20:52is ludicrous to begin with.
20:54And if Tony Khan wanted
20:55to pay finance, this could
20:56really fight this in
20:57court and screw WWE over.
20:58They ought to be thankful
20:59he's not.
21:00That being said, I think
21:02it opens the door to the
21:03opportunity for what
21:04everybody's been fantasy
21:05booking, which I don't
21:05again, I don't think is
21:06going to happen.
21:07But if you made a deal
21:08where you will release
21:10Andrade from his one year
21:12non-compete clause to
21:14allow Edge, Adam Copeland,
21:16to be John Cena's final
21:17opponent, I'm in.
21:19Thousand percent.
21:20I think it's a very good
21:22negotiation and it's a
21:23doorway into other
21:25negotiations with WWE and
21:27AEW when you realize you
21:29can be friends.
21:30You can work together.
21:31If you can work as AEW
21:33with CMLL and places like
21:34that, if you're WWE and
21:36you can work with Pro
21:36Wrestling Noah and TNA and
21:38other places, then you can
21:39make this work if you
21:40wanted to.
21:41And there's no reason to
21:42not want to.
21:43It doesn't have to be so
21:44divisive.
21:45We talk about tribalism and
21:47wrestling with the fans all
21:48the time.
21:48There's more tribalism within
21:50the companies than there
21:51are the fans sometimes if
21:52they're not willing to try
21:53to do the right thing.
21:54And here is why I want it
21:55to be considered so highly
21:58because another person,
22:00ready, here comes my real
22:01shooting for the moon,
22:02absolutely not going to
22:04happen.
22:05I would love for Hiroshi
22:08Tanahashi to be in the
22:10tournament.
22:11I know he wouldn't win the
22:13tournament even though I
22:13would love to see Tanahashi
22:14and John Cena.
22:15That fantasy match has been
22:17booked in many fans' minds
22:18for a long, long time if you
22:19know anything about New Japan.
22:20But if you open the door,
22:23negotiate with Tony Khan for
22:24Andrade and Adam Copeland is
22:26the final opponent, but you
22:27could also open the door to
22:28him and with Tanahashi to
22:30New Japan because Tanahashi
22:31is the president of New Japan
22:32and set it up so you could
22:33have Tanahashi come in for
22:34the tournament leading to
22:36Tanahashi versus Shinsuke
22:38Nakamura at WrestleKingdom
22:41for Tanahashi's retirement
22:42match.
22:43Think about what this would do
22:45for professional wrestling in
22:46terms of opening the real
22:48forbidden door.
22:49Does WWE go to MLW and try
22:51to get Bishop Dyer, formerly
22:53Baron Corbin, to come in and
22:54be a part of the tournament?
22:55I would love that.
22:57No problem with that.
22:57Or Donovan Dijak.
22:58Right now Dijak and Bishop
23:02Dyer being the MLW World
23:04Tag Team Champions.
23:05I would love that.
23:06I think it's a great idea.
23:08And it heals some of the
23:09wounds from a lawsuit they
23:10had between MLW and WWE a
23:11few years ago.
23:12WWE needs to be smart about
23:14this.
23:14They should be cultivating
23:15relationships with everybody
23:16because they are the king of
23:18the mountain.
23:19And they have access to much
23:20more talent if they are
23:21endearing and embracing to
23:23other groups and other
23:24organizations.
23:25I think this is the way to
23:26broker some things between
23:28them and their number one
23:29competitor, AEW, and keep
23:31AEW at bay.
23:33Because it's not just about
23:35Tanahashi.
23:35And on the Tanahashi topic,
23:37the word is, is they still
23:39haven't even chosen the
23:39opponent.
23:40They've narrowed the list down
23:41to like three people and
23:42they're still not sure who it's
23:43going to be.
23:43And Tanahashi actually put a
23:45message out saying, please
23:46wait a little longer.
23:47He says, quote, please wait a
23:48little longer.
23:49I've fought many different
23:50wrestlers in my career.
23:51I will make sure to announce
23:52who I want to face.
23:53I think he wants Nakamura.
23:55I just think it's such a
23:57difficult thing to get over
23:58because these companies don't
23:59speak to each other.
23:59I think they need to just to
24:01make that happen.
24:02But when we look at, you
24:04know, all the other stuff
24:05that's going on, that what
24:07AEW needs to think about in
24:09terms of this negotiation
24:10potentially with WWE is
24:11Warner Brothers Discovery is
24:13definitely going for sale.
24:15They're expecting some kind of
24:16announcement on the status in
24:17December.
24:18And, you know, that's the
24:20broadcast home of AEW.
24:23But if Netflix were to make a
24:25play to purchase them, the
24:26theory would be that their
24:27contract would still be valid.
24:29So now Netflix would have
24:30WWE and AEW on their
24:32programming.
24:33It makes a lot of sense to get
24:35those two talking and in a
24:37working relationship of some
24:38kind.
24:39And that would that would
24:40can you even imagine wrestling
24:42fans have dreamt their whole
24:43life about like all the access
24:46to all the talent being on
24:47major super cards.
24:48Think about that kind of
24:49WrestleMania card, you know,
24:50with the Will Ospreay versus
24:52Seth Rollins matches and
24:53things of that nature.
24:54It would be beautiful.
24:56I think that I mean right now
24:58they're saying that Paramount is
24:59the the leading candidate to
25:00possibly buy Warner Brothers
25:01Discovery.
25:02If I'm Netflix, I make a play.
25:04I really do.
25:05And if they do acquire them,
25:07then you have to have the
25:08conversation about how do we
25:09make these people, these
25:09companies, you know,
25:10negotiator beyond peace,
25:13peaceful terms of sorts,
25:14some way, shape or form.
25:16Last thing I want to get to
25:17tonight is The Undertaker.
25:18And as strange as it may
25:19sound, his backstage role in
25:21AAA, the word is in Lucha
25:25Libre AAA Worldwide.
25:26In recent months, The
25:27Undertaker has pretty much
25:28become the creative force in
25:30that company.
25:31He's the one who wrote
25:33everything for TripleMania,
25:35which was held back on August
25:3616th.
25:37He is the guy who is the he's
25:40they believe that he is more
25:41attuned to what the American
25:43audience is looking for.
25:44And that's why he's taken on
25:46this.
25:46He's both the brand ambassador
25:47and the creative writer for
25:49AAA.
25:49I'm sure he works very closely
25:51with Conan, who has booked
25:53for AAA for a very long time,
25:55getting a feel for, you know,
25:56the different talents and what
25:57the fans typically like and
25:58want to do.
25:59But I think it's a great role
26:00for him.
26:01I just find it so interesting
26:02that Triple H, Shawn Michaels
26:03and The Undertaker basically are
26:05running the entire wrestling
26:06industry right now, with the
26:07exception of Tony Khan, really,
26:08even when it comes to TNA,
26:09because I know Silva is the
26:11president of the company.
26:12But let's be honest, WWE is so
26:14much influence over that
26:14company.
26:15It's ridiculous.
26:15So but we'll have to say, I
26:17don't know.
26:18There's there's a lot going on.
26:19I love seeing The Undertaker
26:20getting involved in some way,
26:21shape or form, giving back to
26:22the industry.
26:23I think it's wonderful.
26:24I think he's a wildly
26:25inventive guy.
26:26I just wish maybe he would
26:28pull back on so many main
26:29roster stars or even NXT stars
26:31going to AAA.
26:33But this past weekend, if
26:34nobody saw it, Chelsea Green
26:36and Ethan Page went down and
26:37won the mixed tag team
26:38championship, I don't like
26:40that.
26:40I really don't.
26:41I don't want to see that.
26:42I want to see AAA wrestlers
26:44win those championships.
26:45I want to keep those belts on
26:47those people so it doesn't look
26:48like WWE is just basically
26:49dissolving AAA because that's
26:51what is the fear of the
26:53Mexican audience.
26:54And they don't want to see
26:55that.
26:55They want to keep something
26:56their own.
26:57And I support that.
26:58So hopefully The Undertaker
26:59finds a way to book that just a
27:00little differently so that the
27:02fans of AAA are able to still
27:06feel that that old school
27:08AAA experience that they've
27:10grown to know and love.
27:11That's all the time we have
27:12for this episode.
27:13Check back with us next
27:14episode where we run down the
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