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02:52Tonight we are bouncing all over like a ping pong ball
02:54We got news that normally you try to put an episode together
02:58And you have some thematic purpose to it
03:00This is all over the place tonight
03:02Because that's just what the news dictated today
03:04Where do we start?
03:05Let's start with TNA Wrestling
03:06The July 23rd episode of TNA Wrestling
03:09Was the highest rated show since the AMC move
03:13The premiere episode on AMC
03:15This is a great sign for TNA Wrestling
03:17Because they have lost so much talent recently
03:20Tons of creative changeover
03:22Real uncertainty about the leadership of the company
03:25And this is a great sign
03:26It means that the fans are getting behind the product
03:28The talent
03:29And let's be honest
03:30The talent in TNA
03:31The guys and gals who work their tails off in TNA
03:35Have always, going all the way back to the inception of the company
03:37All the way through now
03:38They always put their best foot forward
03:40They're always trying to put out the best product they can
03:42And there are weeks where they have some of the best matches
03:45In all of the pro wrestling world
03:46And it seems as though they never get the credit for doing so
03:50Back in the day they did
03:51You could always talk about the AJ Styles
03:53Versus Christopher Daniels
03:54Versus Samoa Joe Triple Threat
03:56Things like that for the X Division Championship
03:57But nowadays
03:59It's not common that you hear TNA Wrestling mentioned
04:02As having the best wrestling in the world
04:04Sometimes they really do
04:06Some of their matches are incredible
04:08And it's great to see them starting to get some of that success
04:10Some of that residual benefit
04:12From all the hard work they've put in over the years
04:14To cultivate the brand
04:15My only concern is
04:17When you're seeing numbers like this
04:18It is time for TNA to make a decision
04:21Are we going to sell out to WWE
04:23Or are we really going to make a go of this
04:25And try to make this a premier brand
04:27Because if you are
04:28I'm fine with them having a working deal with WWE
04:30It doesn't seem like there's a lot of crossover right now anyways
04:33But if you're going to have that
04:34That's fine
04:36However
04:36If you're going to really make a go of this
04:38You need to start signing your talent to long-term contracts
04:41Most of them right now
04:42The word is
04:42The philosophy in TNA is
04:44Short-term deals
04:46Employee turnover
04:47Keeping costs down
04:48And
04:49If you were trying to set up a new company
04:51That makes a lot of sense
04:52But you're an established company
04:53That's been there for over 20 years at this point
04:55You need to be signing long-term contracts
04:57And start booking long-term storylines
05:00They've been doing a decent job recently in their creative
05:03Keep that creative energy going
05:05Keep that positivity going
05:06And keep these ratings going up
05:08It's a great thing to see for them
05:10Jumping over to WWE
05:11Word came out that the WWE Hall of Fame
05:14For WrestleMania 43
05:16The question all along was
05:18Were they going to do the Hall of Fame in New York City
05:21Because they were mentioning all those other events going on in New York
05:24Or was it going to go to Saudi Arabia
05:26I will tell you my preference is
05:27If you really wanted to pop New York City
05:30And maybe even keep Tony Khan at bay
05:32Because it sounds like AEW is going to run something that day
05:35Those two days
05:36Then what they should have done
05:37Is had the Hall of Fame in New York City
05:39Instead
05:39Word came out
05:41It will be in Saudi Arabia
05:42Think about how many WWE fans
05:45Have watched
05:46The people going into the Hall of Fame
05:48I'll put it this way
05:49If you're going in the Hall of Fame
05:51Your contributions were well before
05:53The deal with Saudi Arabia
05:55So which fans
05:56Should have the opportunity
05:57To celebrate with you
05:59To cheer you on
06:00To watch you take that honor
06:01And go into the Hall of Fame
06:03I
06:04Call it what you will
06:05I think it belongs
06:07Stateside
06:07Or in Canada
06:08I could deal with a Canadian ceremony
06:10I think that'd be fine
06:11Even something in Great Britain
06:13Where you know
06:13We had
06:15SummerSlam 93
06:15Things like that
06:17Some place
06:18Where
06:18The fans
06:19That have spent
06:20The majority of their time
06:21Keeping up with the product
06:22Of the talent
06:23That are going into the Hall of Fame
06:24Can celebrate that achievement
06:26I think this is a bad move
06:27It doesn't look good
06:28It's like
06:29It's purely a money grab
06:30We know that
06:30They get paid out the yin yang
06:32For every single thing
06:33That
06:35That they possibly can
06:36From the Saudi government
06:38It just
06:39It gives me
06:39Just bad vibes
06:40Just saying
06:42Let's talk about
06:43SummerSlam weekend
06:43We do know that
06:45They are going to be
06:45Holding tryouts
06:46For new talent
06:47And one of the names
06:48Has come out
06:48Is KJ Orso
06:50You may remember the name
06:51Fuego del Sol
06:52In AEW
06:54Cruiserweight guy
06:55At the very end of his time
06:56In AEW
06:58Cody Rhodes
06:59Actually donned a mask
07:00And teamed up with
07:00Fuego del Sol
07:01As a tag team
07:02It never went very far
07:03I wish it would have
07:04It would have been
07:05Pretty interesting
07:05But now he will be
07:07One of the people
07:08Participating in the
07:09WWE tryouts
07:11I hope they sign him
07:12He is an incredible talent
07:13If you don't remember
07:14Go back and watch
07:15Some early AEW shows
07:16Fuego del Sol
07:17Was absolutely over
07:21Crazy athletic
07:22And another high flyer
07:23Another
07:23You know
07:24I hate when people
07:25Call them the flippers
07:26And all that
07:26Flip and floppers
07:27And whatever
07:28The guy is a high flyer
07:29He's a risk taker
07:30He's exciting
07:31And that's something
07:32WWE never
07:33You know
07:33Never has enough of
07:36They have a lot of
07:37These big powerhouse guys
07:39And people
07:39All points in between
07:40But having another
07:42Athletic
07:42Really exciting
07:44Engaging athlete
07:45Would be a great gift
07:46For WWE
07:46Look at what people
07:47Like Javon Evans
07:48Are doing
07:49And stuff like that
07:50That's the kind of talent
07:51We're talking about
07:52Then jumping in
07:53Keeping with the NXT
07:54Theme for a hot second
07:55NXT
07:56They have a streaming deal
07:58That is kicking off
07:59On August 4th
08:00With ESPN Unlimited
08:01All the CW sports programming
08:04Is going to be shifting
08:05To ESPN Unlimited
08:06Meaning
08:06You're going to be able
08:07To watch NXT live
08:09From the app
08:09Which for somebody like me
08:10Is a huge deal
08:11When I'm at the gym
08:12I work out late at night
08:13And NXT is on
08:15And I can't get it through
08:15I'm a DirecTV subscriber
08:17I cannot get NXT
08:18On the DirecTV app
08:20When I'm at the gym
08:21Because of maybe
08:22My plan
08:22Or whatever it is
08:23But with this
08:25I'll be able to access it
08:26Through my ESPN Unlimited
08:27App
08:28Starting August 4th
08:30Which I get
08:30Because I'm a DirecTV customer
08:32Think how stupid that is
08:33You won't let me have it
08:33With my subscription
08:34But you let me get it
08:35In this app
08:35That I only get
08:36Because of your subscription
08:37Very strange
08:38But very big change
08:40For NXT
08:40And all sports programming
08:42On CW
08:43Interesting partnership there
08:45Let's go to AEW
08:46For a hot minute
08:47Rhino
08:47Former ECW world
08:49And television champion
08:50Former WWE superstar
08:52Former TNA superstar
08:53Is going to AEW
08:54The word is
08:56He will have a match
08:56Either at Collision
08:57At Dynamite
08:58Maybe it'll be dark matches
09:00Maybe it'll be on screen
09:00We don't know
09:01We just know
09:02That he is booked
09:03For their shows
09:04This coming week
09:05And I hope
09:06He gets an opportunity
09:07To really showcase himself
09:08I hate it
09:09When they bring
09:10Like a veteran in
09:11Even somebody like
09:12Matt Cardona
09:12Was at the height
09:13Of his indie god phase
09:15And AEW barely used him
09:17And when they did
09:18It seemed like
09:19It wasn't right
09:19Rhino is somebody
09:21Who can still contribute
09:21At a high level
09:22He's got a wealth
09:23Of experience
09:24A wealth of knowledge
09:25He's somebody
09:26They could really feature
09:27In a really cool
09:28Nostalgic match
09:29And I hope he gets
09:30That opportunity
09:30And to really shine
09:32On AEW television
09:33And not just
09:34In some dark match
09:35Somewhere
09:37Speaking of AEW
09:38We know
09:39Tony Khan's
09:39Looking at some
09:40Of the free agents
09:41That are out there
09:41One of them
09:42That may be closer
09:43To Tony Khan
09:44Than people may have
09:45Originally thought
09:46Would be Kairi Sane
09:47A lot of people
09:48Thought she was
09:48Going to head back
09:49To Japan
09:50Perhaps go to
09:51Stardom
09:52Possibly go to
09:54Oh my gosh
09:55Marigold
09:57Joshi Pro
09:57Something like that
09:58But instead
09:59She has picked up
10:00A new agent
10:00Barry Bloom
10:01Who is historically
10:02One of the biggest
10:03Most important agents
10:05For professional wrestlers
10:06And does a lot of
10:07Business with AEW
10:08So not sure
10:10Where Kairi's headed next
10:11But when you're hiring
10:12A big time agent
10:13Like that
10:13It tells me
10:14That something big
10:15Is in her future
10:15And she may be
10:16Looking at making
10:17A jump into
10:18All Elite Wrestling
10:18Or would he be
10:20Able to negotiate
10:21A return to WWE
10:22After everybody's
10:23Frustration and backlash
10:24When she was cut
10:25Don't know
10:26When they're trying
10:27To cut salaries
10:27Depending on what
10:28Her interests are
10:29We might see a
10:30Return at some point
10:31I would not be surprised
10:32If we see her
10:34Going to Japan
10:35And doing some
10:37Things with stardom
10:38I think that would
10:38Be a great idea
10:39Especially with
10:39Their partnership
10:40With AEW
10:41But definitely
10:42Some exciting stuff
10:43Now I'm surprised
10:44We haven't seen
10:45More debuts yet
10:47Everybody's a free agent
10:48At this point
10:48Like certain ones
10:49Make sense
10:49Aleister Black
10:50I didn't expect
10:51To show up at AEW
10:52Because of the way
10:52He departed
10:53And went back to WWE
10:54It also means
10:55Zelina Vega
10:55Probably not going
10:56There right away
10:58But some of the others
10:59I thought we would
11:00Have seen the New Day
11:00At Redemption
11:01We did not
11:02I thought we would
11:03Probably would have
11:04Seen Kairi Sane
11:05I thought we might have
11:05Seen some of the
11:06Wyatt Six
11:06And instead we've seen
11:08A whole lot of nothing
11:09So far
11:09Maybe on Dynamite
11:10I hope
11:11Set something up
11:12For all in
11:13But we'll have to
11:14Wait and see
11:14And here's the part
11:15Where I got to get
11:16To the last topic
11:17Of the night
11:17And it's going to
11:17Take me a hot minute
11:18Because it's
11:19Something that requires
11:21Quite a bit of conversation
11:22And I apologize
11:23For that ahead of time
11:24But I saw a lot of
11:25Fan conversation online
11:27About Ryan Garcia
11:28The WBC welterweight champion
11:30That showed up
11:32On Raw
11:33And attacked
11:34Joe Hendry
11:35And was a part of
11:36The beatdown
11:36For Dan Housen
11:38And look
11:39Here's the thing
11:39I've seen people
11:40Come out in defense
11:42Of the use
11:43Of Ryan Garcia
11:44Because he's a
11:45World champion boxer
11:46I understand that
11:47But you also have to
11:48Understand the other
11:49Side of things
11:50And I don't think
11:51Some people are aware
11:52So I'm going to
11:53Educate you on the
11:54History of Ryan Garcia
11:56And it's not
11:56Look I'm not
11:57Taking sides with
11:58Anything
11:59I tried very hard
12:00On this show
12:00Not to do that
12:01But it is important
12:02To have all the
12:02Contacts
12:03Why are people
12:04Outraged
12:05And why is there
12:05So much backlash
12:06About his involvement
12:07In this segment
12:08Yes he has a big
12:09Boxing match coming up
12:10Yes TKO wants to
12:12Promote that match
12:13This I don't think
12:14Was the right way
12:15To promote the match
12:16Because
12:17Let's just talk about
12:18Some of the issues
12:19One
12:19He is not a supporter
12:20Of the LGBTQ plus
12:22Community
12:22He's made that very
12:23Clear on X
12:24And other social media
12:25Now I don't
12:26You can feel
12:27However you want
12:27To feel about that
12:28Conversation
12:28But I think
12:30Dignity and respect
12:31Is something
12:31Everybody can agree
12:32People deserve
12:33And this guy
12:34He doesn't just
12:35Disapprove
12:36He speaks vilely
12:38In a horrible
12:40Manner towards
12:41That community
12:42In addition
12:43The 2024 Summer Olympics
12:44Had a whole to do
12:46About his frustration
12:48With the fact
12:48That they had drag queens
12:49During the opening ceremony
12:51Again
12:52You can have
12:53Whatever political
12:54Opinion you want
12:54I'm not here
12:55To judge anybody
12:56But you have to
12:57Understand why
12:58If you are a member
12:59Of the LGBTQ plus
13:00Community
13:01If you are a member
13:01Of the community
13:02That supports
13:03Is an ally
13:04Or anything like that
13:05You can understand
13:06Why these people
13:06Might be frustrated
13:07Then
13:08June 2024
13:10His lady
13:11In his life
13:12At the time
13:13Contacts the police
13:14Department
13:15He's at the
13:16Waldorf Astoria
13:17Where he has a room
13:18And he totally
13:19Destroys the room
13:20$15,000 in damage
13:22He gets booked
13:22For vandalism
13:23And still could be
13:25See up to a year
13:26In prison
13:26Because of that
13:27Infraction
13:27Apparently it's just
13:28Been pushed off
13:29And pushed off
13:29But concerns
13:31About violent behavior
13:32And then July 2024
13:34Using racial slurs
13:36Claiming he was a member
13:38Of the Ku Klux Klan
13:39The KKK
13:41Derogatory Marx
13:42Calling himself
13:42An anti-black
13:43Anti-Muslim
13:46Talking about
13:47George Floyd
13:48Again
13:49When it comes to
13:50The Floyd stuff
13:51And stuff like that
13:53You can have
13:54Whatever opinion
13:54You want
13:55I'm not here to judge
13:56But it's 2026
13:57Anybody who supports
13:59The Klan
14:00I have a problem
14:00With
14:01Anybody who's
14:02Anti-black
14:03I have a problem
14:04With
14:04You know
14:07It's 2026
14:08What have you not
14:10Learned about
14:10Basic genetics
14:11That you still
14:13Feel that way
14:13And then
14:14To follow it up
14:15When he was
14:16Getting so much
14:17Hate
14:17The WBC
14:18At the time
14:19Expunged him
14:20From their company
14:21For a while
14:21Now he's back
14:22Being their
14:23Welterweight champion
14:23But for a while
14:24He was expelled
14:25From the company
14:26And then
14:27He started
14:27When he started
14:28Seeing all the
14:28Flack come in
14:29He tried to
14:29Roll it back
14:30A little bit
14:30Oh no
14:31I was just
14:31Trolling people
14:32You weren't
14:33Trolling people
14:34You gave
14:34In-depth
14:36Conversation
14:37Repeated
14:38Conversation
14:38About these
14:39Horrible topics
14:40And your
14:40Verbiage was
14:41Incredibly disrespectful
14:42So when people
14:43Are given
14:44Attitude about
14:44Why are people
14:45In such an
14:46Uproar
14:46About this guy
14:47Being involved
14:47In a WWE show
14:48I just listed
14:49What do we got
14:501, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7
14:52Different things
14:53That he said
14:54That are completely
14:55Inappropriate
14:56And let's liken it
14:57To somebody
14:58In the pro wrestling
14:59World
14:59Hulk Hogan
15:00Gets a whole lot
15:01Of attitude
15:02About the horrible
15:03Things that he said
15:04Justifiably so
15:05I have no problem
15:06With people holding
15:06A grudge against
15:07Hulk Hogan
15:07He said some
15:08Horrible things
15:09This guy said
15:10100 times more
15:11Things and WWE
15:12Is featuring him
15:13On Monday Night Raw
15:15They're promoting
15:17His fights
15:17I can't even wrap
15:20My brain
15:20Around that
15:21There are ways
15:22To promote things
15:23WWE should not
15:24Be involved
15:24In the promotion
15:25Of this fight
15:26At all
15:26If TKO wants
15:28To promote it
15:28Make it one of
15:29The ad breaks
15:30Or a lead in ad
15:31Or an exit ad
15:33Something
15:33But don't put it
15:34Mid program
15:35And certainly
15:35Don't have the
15:36Most controversial
15:37Guy on the fight
15:38At that fight night
15:39Coming out
15:40And getting involved
15:40With your talent
15:41It's a bad look
15:43But I've seen
15:44Online various
15:45Media outlets
15:45Reporting
15:46I think
15:46E-Wrestling News
15:48And WrestleZone
15:49Both
15:51WrestleZone
15:51And
15:52Wrestling Inc
15:53All reporting
15:54That basically
15:56As long as
15:57You're not in jail
15:58WWE doesn't care
15:59TKO doesn't care
16:00And that's a problem
16:01You are creating
16:03Superstars
16:04That are role models
16:05For children
16:06And then you're
16:07Putting something
16:07Like this on television
16:08I have a problem
16:10With that
16:10If you don't
16:11Agree with me
16:11You feel free
16:12To not tune in
16:13I'm not trying
16:14I'm not going
16:14To judge you
16:15But please don't
16:16Judge me either
16:17I'm being very
16:18Honest with you
16:18You know
16:20Just saying
16:20And if that's a
16:21Problem like I said
16:21Unsubscribe
16:22Don't listen
16:23You know there's
16:23A million wrestling
16:24Podcasts
16:24You don't have to
16:25Listen to mine
16:25Here's the shocking
16:26Thing I would
16:27Encourage you to
16:27Realize that I
16:28Have yet to hear
16:29One podcast today
16:30And I've listened
16:31To a ton
16:31That don't agree
16:32With me on this
16:33Topic
16:33It's 2026
16:34Stop the hate
16:35Spread love
16:36Spread acceptance
16:37Spread tolerance
16:38Spread understanding
16:39Spread compassion
16:41Stop spreading hate
16:43It has no place
16:44In a modern
16:45Civilized society
16:46Thank you so much
16:47For those people
16:48Who listened to
16:48This part of the episode
16:49I know
16:50When you tune into
16:51My show
16:51It's typically
16:52More laid back
16:53And more fun
16:54And stuff like that
16:54And maybe I got
16:55A little serious
16:55About this
16:56Because it is serious
16:57And for anybody
16:58Who's experienced
16:59Some of that hate
17:00I hope you know
17:01There's always
17:02An ally out there
17:03I am one
17:04Feel free to reach
17:05Out on social media
17:05I'm happy to talk
17:06To anybody
17:07Who needs to talk
17:07Anybody who's
17:08Going through it
17:09If you are somebody
17:10Who is perpetrating
17:12That hate
17:12Please seek help
17:13Seek counseling
17:14Seek guidance
17:15Find a spiritual leader
17:16Somebody to walk you
17:18Through it
17:18And understand
17:20Read some religious text
17:21Whatever that
17:22Denomination is
17:23That you belong to
17:24I couldn't care less
17:25I'm a freedom of religion guy
17:26I don't care what
17:27Your religion is
17:27But read them
17:28Because most of those
17:29Religious texts
17:30Unless you're a radical
17:32Extremist
17:32One way or the other
17:33For whatever religion
17:34Most of the fundamental
17:35Religions in the world
17:36Are very tolerant
17:37Of other people
17:38I hope you would be too
17:40Again sorry for the rant
17:41I'm passionate about this stuff
17:43I'm a social studies teacher
17:44At heart to begin with
17:44That's my day job
17:46So you can understand
17:47Why I might take this
17:48Very seriously
17:48I have children
17:49That I have to lead
17:50Every day
17:51Into a world
17:52That has too much
17:52Divisiveness
17:53And too much anger
17:54Frustration
17:54And non-acceptance
17:56Of others
17:56And it's just something
17:58I'm very passionate about
17:58So again
17:59I apologize for the rant
18:00But I hope you understand
18:01It was necessary in my mind
18:03That's all the time
18:04We have for this episode
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