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00:00But I do love, like, the Giants don't, they're not laying down.
00:04They'll come out there and fire a game at you.
00:06They went into Denver, remember they had them dead to rights,
00:09and then the Broncos came back from, like, 25 points down or something like that.
00:13But, like, they are the most fun, bad team watch in the NFL, my opinion.
00:20Yeah, I mean, they've got some weapons,
00:23and I have Juan Dale Robinson on my fantasy team,
00:25so that's always fun to watch him run around and get, you know, 14 targets.
00:29But just last night, that thing was over before I even had a chance to get to the car across town.
00:34Well, special teams killed them.
00:35Yeah.
00:36Special teams killed them, and, like, that has to win for most embarrassing play of the year.
00:42Does it not, of all plays, have you ever seen a kicker just kick the ground?
00:48That was embarrassing.
00:49Like, I get it if you get, those of you who golf, you get it if you catch one a little chunky.
00:55He kicked a foot behind the ball and kicked only ground.
01:01He kicked the ground.
01:02I've never seen that before.
01:03The poor punter's like, what's this ball still doing under my finger?
01:07I better try to do something.
01:08So now he's living out of his dream.
01:10He's going to roll right.
01:11He's going, okay, you're not outrunning anybody, punter.
01:14Oh, my God.
01:15The only one that's close to as embarrassing happened in the Niner-Browns game where the Brown kick returner just caught it
01:22and got two feet in and went out of bounds at the five-yard line.
01:25You're like, get my feet down?
01:26Yeah.
01:27I caught it.
01:27I caught it, coach.
01:28And I still think that many special teamers in the NFL don't understand the rules.
01:34The new rules, like the out-of-bounds, the touchback, the kick zone, the dirty ball.
01:38There's a lot to it now.
01:39But here's an idea.
01:41If you're about to catch a ball and you're near the sideline, just let it go.
01:44Let it go.
01:45All it's all, it's not going to hit the ground and carry him back into the field.
01:49Funny, Parcells used to have a whole thing about catch the ball.
01:54Do not let the ball fall.
01:55I feel like more often than not now with all these new rules, I'm yelling at whoever's going to just get away from the ball.
02:01Like the only really bad crap can happen if you catch a ball.
02:05Just don't touch the ball.
02:08Unless your name's Sky Moore.
02:10Hey, Grandy, do you have a Sky Moore poster in your room yet?
02:14Because you used to hate him.
02:16And he has become a full-blown freaking weapon for the Niners.
02:20He's got to take one to the house for me to get a poster.
02:23Dude, come on.
02:23The one-yard line's not enough.
02:24Close enough.
02:25This guy's flipping fields on the weekly right now.
02:28He's been great.
02:29He's been fantastic.
02:30He's been equally great as bad as he was to begin the year.
02:33Get that Skippy McDippy guy from Kansas City back on who ripped Sky Moore on this show.
02:39Skippy McDippy?
02:39Whatever his name is.
02:41Harrington Harrison.
02:41I was off that day.
02:42His last name rhymes with his first name.
02:45It's very whimsical.
02:46You know what I'm saying.
02:48He can't catch.
02:49He ripped Sky Moore like I've never heard a radio host rip a player before.
02:53He owes Sky Moore a public apology on San Francisco radio.
03:00No doubt.
03:01You know who can't catch is Larvadian or Larvadon.
03:05Who?
03:05The Browns rookie who had the punt just sail right through.
03:08And he fumbled early in the game.
03:10He was able to recover it.
03:11The Browns.
03:12That thing just like, whop, right off the chest and, you know.
03:16Stiney had a thing earlier about special teams.
03:18Like, can you really rely on it?
03:20Or is it like whimsical?
03:21And I was thinking about it driving in.
03:23He can't catch.
03:24It's not that you can rely on it, but you can also, if you have a bad special teams unit
03:30like the Niners did last year, that, unfortunately, you can bank.
03:34It'll kill you.
03:35And you can bank on it.
03:35It'll kill you.
03:36Like Jake Moody, shout out Moody, who sent it into overtime on Sunday night with a clutch
03:41kick, but last year he was completely mentally done.
03:45They couldn't cover a kick.
03:46They couldn't catch a punt.
03:48Daryl Luter Jr. stumbled into one.
03:50You were a mess last year.
03:51That you can bank on.
03:52What they've done lately, Sky Moore.
03:54Yeah, you start to get, I'm sure he's starting to see the field like wide, wide open.
03:59You know, like when you're a baseball player and the ball looks like it's a watermelon and
04:02you're a basketball player and the rim looks like it's a giant ocean.
04:06That's where Sky Moore is now.
04:07Whoever was in charge of naming special teams deserves a little bit of a raise because
04:14that's what they are, man.
04:15They're special.
04:16They totally change football games.
04:20How many special teams plays in a game?
04:23Like in a game.
04:24I would say.
04:25How long are they out there?
04:25Seven, eight, nine?
04:26Oh no, about 20.
04:28Well, you get your kickoffs, you get your field goals.
04:30Kickoffs and punts.
04:31And then your punts.
04:32Right.
04:32Okay.
04:33Kickoff, field goal, PAT, punt.
04:35All right.
04:36About 20.
04:37I mean.
04:3715 to 20.
04:38Jeez, like if you don't do it well, it'll ruin everything.
04:44And, you know, look at the Patriots last night.
04:46Same thing.
04:46Like you said, ooh, that game was over before it started.
04:48And yeah, Drake May was, he was slinging it and they were moving the ball.
04:53But the Giants were moving the ball too.
04:55But the problem was, it was just 14, you know, whatever it was, 10-0, 14-0.
04:59Like, boop, that's it.
05:00Like, we go out there one time, get a first down or two.
05:05Oh, it didn't work out.
05:06It's 3-0.
05:07Punt the ball.
05:08Boom.
05:09Touchdown.
05:09Game over.
05:10That's it.
05:11Like, you're on the road on Monday night and it's cold and you're down double digits.
05:15And you're like, I haven't even figured out where I want to sit on the bench yet.
05:20Special teams.
05:21Yeah, we watched it last year.
05:23We watched it.
05:24And for it, like I've said this a thousand times until I'm blue in the face, all the,
05:28how come Brock Purdy was section 11 last year?
05:31Special teams and run defense ruined that season for all of the other players.
05:37Whoever you are.
05:39Whether you performed poorly, mediocre, well, whatever.
05:44Like, the 49ers last year are an absolute book on how special teams can completely unseat a season.
05:55Yeah.
05:55And I'm just looking at the playtime percentages from the game Sunday.
06:00Luke Farrell, the tight end for the Niners, he played in 19 special team snaps, which was 90%,
06:06which tells me that they had 21 special teams plays.
06:10And think about it, every drive either starts with a kickoff or starts with a punt or starts after a turnover.
06:18And then first half kickoff, the second half kickoff, all those PATs and the field goals.
06:23And Sunday was a little bit of a punt fest.
06:25And I was telling Grandy yesterday, I was watching the game thinking, I love punts.
06:29Like, punt the ball, Niners.
06:31It's windy.
06:32Cleveland can't score.
06:33Let's punt it up.
06:34Give me more, more head.
06:36And so that game, that game was a special teams masterpiece because Cleveland was so bad on special teams.
06:42It was, oddly, my number one takeaway of the game, which was I thought that the San Francisco 49ers collectively went into Cleveland
06:53and played what I would call the smartest football game of the year.
06:57So you can pick whichever individuals you want and highlight the things that they did over the weekend.
07:03That was the smartest game that the 49ers have played all year long.
07:10Cleveland made tons of mistakes.
07:13Go ahead, list the ones the Niners made.
07:16They're few and far between.
07:18Fannin Jr. with a 34-yard touchdown reception when, I think it was Gifford, the linebacker.
07:23He just fell down.
07:24It was like watching under-six soccer.
07:27Shout out to the fireballs.
07:29I coached Questy and, you know, somebody who kicked the ball and six of the eight players on the field would just fall.
07:34Yeah.
07:35And blades of grass tripping people up.
07:37So that was about the only mistake.
07:40And you gave up one sack to Miles Garrett.
07:42Well, yeah, it's like giving up a home run to Aaron Judge.
07:45It's going to happen.
07:46He's going to get you now.
07:47Oh, God.
07:48Sign me up for one sack.
07:50Right.
07:51Against Cleveland.
07:52And there was about 13 pressures.
07:54And he put a Hall of Fame move on a Hall of Fame tackle and, you know, tipped the cap.
07:59Score one for No. 95.
08:00But outside of that, mistakes?
08:02There weren't many.
08:03There were not many.
08:04There were no turnovers for the 49ers.
08:06I thought the, like, when should we punt?
08:08When should we push this downfield?
08:09The only one that for the moment felt a little surprising is when they fall down 8-7.
08:15And you don't have a whole lot of time left in the first half.
08:18But you get pretty good field position.
08:19And it's like, right, is Kyle going to push this down the field in the wind?
08:25Yes.
08:26George Kittle's going to make an unbelievable catch.
08:28Cajones, Shanahan, we call him.
08:30But then puts the cojones away when you're at the two or three yard line.
08:35At the seven.
08:37Whatever it was.
08:38Yeah.
08:38I know.
08:39Four seconds left.
08:40Believe me.
08:41There were people.
08:42There were people.
08:43Yep.
08:44My phone.
08:45Go for it!
08:45Yeah, you're drunk.
08:46Like, just kick the field goal.
08:48Yeah.
08:49Points at an absolute premium.
08:51And he almost missed the damn thing.
08:52The linker.
08:53But, like, that I just thought from Brock's throwaways, he never forced anything into coverage.
09:00He was the quarterback on Sunday that he promised to be before the season.
09:06When he said, I gotta stop trying to play hero ball.
09:08Yeah, good point.
09:09He was the quarterback on Sunday he promised to be.
09:13He runs one in.
09:14He throws one in.
09:15Turnovers, zero.
09:17He avoided the sack better than any QB in the game in this particular week.
09:21Smart, smart football game all the way around.
09:25Yeah, and a lot of it was predicated on the game plan and because of the wind.
09:29And I heard Steine and Goo play the Shanahan cut earlier about why you took the ball.
09:34You won the toss and you took the ball.
09:36And it's because of the windy conditions.
09:37You wanted to make sure you had the wind in the fourth quarter.
09:40And so, I mean, it was a smart move and stuff.
09:43And I think it caught a lot of you by surprise and stuff because I always like to defer.
09:46I like to double up and stuff.
09:48Here's Kyle.
09:49Conference call yesterday.
09:50Just because of the wind factor, I wanted a chance to choose out the wind at our back in the fourth quarter.
09:58And that was the only way to get that done.
10:01Do you kind of see that as a one-time deal?
10:03That kind of unique circumstances dictated that.
10:07That will probably rarely come up again.
10:09Yeah, I mean, that was solely just because I wanted to make sure.
10:12I mean, the way that wind is, it's hard to throw or kick for two quarters in that game.
10:17And we wanted to make sure that we were going to have it, if we needed to win it on our last-second field goal,
10:22or throw it into the game that we had that in the fourth quarter if we could.
10:25Smart football game, man.
10:26Really, really, really, really smart football game all the way around.
10:29And they took advantage of Cleveland having what I would call a dumb football game.
10:33And third quarter, Cleveland's got the wind.
10:36Fourth and one at their own 33.
10:38We're going to go for it.
10:39And not only are we going to go for it, but we're going to bring in Fannin to take a direct snap
10:44so we can use him to sneak it.
10:46But Shadur can't sneak it up in there, so you bring in Fannin.
10:49He doesn't even get the snap.
10:51Turnover on downs, or maybe it was a fumble recovery.
10:53Who cares?
10:54Doesn't matter, yeah.
10:55You're on the plus side of the field, and then even though you're going against the wind,
10:58you were able to march that thing down there and score and go up 17-8, and that was ballgame.
11:03Yeah, it's classic in the league right now.
11:05We've talked about it before.
11:07All of this fourth down stuff, it's funny, man.
11:09Sometimes this machismo, I think, really gets misinterpreted.
11:14Every single coach, whoever gets interviewed about it, and their players all say the same thing.
11:20We're just thankful that our coach believes in us and thinks it.
11:24No, what your coach is actually doing is not believing in you.
11:28That's what your coach is doing.
11:30And that's how I think more of the guys take it than we realize.
11:34I mean, what does it say to Shadur Sanders that every time they get inside the five-yard line,
11:39or in fourth and one, let's get you off the field, bud.
11:41Come on over here, stand next to me.
11:43Have an orange slice.
11:44It's like, what are you talking about, we believe in you?
11:47What are you talking about?
11:49Or we can't take three because we're acting like, I don't know if we're ever going to get back down here again,
11:55so we better get seven.
11:56Like, belief is do the right thing and trust that the next thing that's going to happen is going to be good, too.
12:03But all of these coaches, man, that's not how it's done anymore.
12:07And I think you're seeing it all over the league.
12:10In fact, I think it has an effect on why so many of these teams can't separate from 8-4 and 7-5
12:19and all of the parity that we're seeing is, like, you just, you're having too many games
12:25that, quite frankly, are miscoached and you're putting your players in a bad position.
12:30It's risk-reward and it's analytics.
12:33And so many of these analytics tell you that, yeah, you go ahead and you go for it here on fourth down
12:39and it reminds me a little bit of the Kapler-Zaidi era where Jock Peterson hits a home run
12:44and he comes up in, I think, the fourth inning and now they've gone to a lefty
12:48and the spreadsheet says, Jock, you don't get to hit against lefties.
12:51We're going to pinch hit.
12:52And Jock is thinking, I don't know if you saw my last A-B skip, but I hit it over that fence-looking thing
12:58and I got to touch all three bases and hit home plate and my teammates were slapping me on the rump
13:02and now I don't get to hit?
13:03I do think that these decisions, and we could talk about the Sirianni one with Grandy
13:07because we had a disagreement in the crossover yesterday about whether or not he should have gone for two,
13:14down nine, with three and a half to go against the Bears.
13:16Oh, good. Did you?
13:18We got into it.
13:18You did that on air?
13:19My whole thing.
13:20Dems was right, by the way. I didn't even hear it, but he was right.
13:23My whole thing is you have to include the human element.
13:25Exactly.
13:25And if you don't get it, you pinch hit for Jock, and he's thinking, well, screw this.
13:30I just hit a home run.
13:32Even though the analytics tell you it might be the right thing to do, you've got to think about human beings.
13:36My man, you have a stadium full of 65,000 people, and you have football players who are all hyped up.
13:46You are the team that's trailing.
13:48What you need on your side is Uncle Moe.
13:51You need Uncle Moe on your side.
13:55And everybody knows that with a handful of minutes to go, if you're down nine, you go for two and you don't get it.
14:05Air is out of the stadium.
14:06Human beings are out of the stadium.
14:08Hit the parking lot.
14:09Yep.
14:09Night, night.
14:10But if you just kick the extra point and make it eight, you get everybody all riled up.
14:16And now it becomes harder for the road team to do what they're going to do.
14:20And I would argue very, very much so.
14:22But if you do then get that next touchdown, and there's, let's say, ten seconds left on the clock,
14:28and now I need two to tie the game, I've got a better chance of getting that one.
14:33Because I've got sphincters on the other side.
14:35Oh, boy.
14:35And I've got Uncle Moe on offense.
14:37And I've got a whole stadium that's ready to explode.
14:40You don't explode when you go from down nine to down seven.
14:45But that's just like, okay, that's step one.
14:47But if you're down seven, then you will go crazy on third down when your defense is out there,
14:53make some noise, flashing, flashing, hoping you get a stop to get the ball back.
14:57That's true for if you're down eight also.
14:59I'm totally with you.
15:00But down nine, night, night.
15:02Pretty much.
15:03Ball game's over.
15:043-10 to go, and they did have a full rack of timeouts.
15:06So you're thinking, oh, we're going to get the ball back.
15:11Sirianni.
15:13Man.
15:13Careful what you say about my guy, Nick.
15:15I'm big dumb.
15:16I love that man.
15:17I can't think of a Super Bowl champion being worse coached the following year
15:24than what I'm watching the Eagles do this year.
15:27You know who had a great game on that Friday, Black Friday game for the Eagles?
15:31You know who put up all the fantasy numbers that everybody wanted?
15:34Yeah, I was going against him.
15:35A.J. Brown.
15:36Guess what happens every time he has a good game?
15:39They lose.
15:39Uh-huh.
15:40Yep.
15:41Yep.
15:42Meanwhile, the Offensive Player of the Year is over here picking daisies every single
15:49week, and they don't run the ball anymore.
15:52Now, every year is different.
15:54Lane Johnson's hurt.
15:55I understand all of that.
15:57But his end-of-game decisions, his play calling, all of the in, not, I don't want to call it
16:04in-fighting, but all of the crap that they're dealing with in the locker room that seems
16:08completely just not addressed.
16:13Like, I don't understand.
16:15I don't understand that football team.
16:17They're 8-4, like whatever.
16:20However, they're probably going to win their division, but I don't understand them.
16:24They should be so much better than they are.
16:26Yeah.
16:27And what a horrific six days for them.
16:3321-0 lead on, so I guess it was eight days.
16:3721-0 lead against the Cowboys, and then you just watch that thing dissipate.
16:44And then, then you show up on Black Friday in your home building against a team that people
16:51think are paper tigers, and you got gashed.
16:55Gashed.
16:55What do you mean?
16:5647 carries for 281?
16:58Gashed.
16:59You call that gashed?
17:00Dude, I mean wide open gaping holes constantly, every time either running back touched the ball.
17:08Manungai.
17:09Kyle Manungai.
17:10Went against him, too.
17:11So, I went against Lubman, whose team we kind of were mocking earlier in the year.
17:16Yeah.
17:17A.J. Brown, Devontae Smith, Jalen Hurts, and Kyle Manungai.
17:22There you go.
17:22So, I'm watching that game and watching my percentage go from 40 to 30 to 20 to 5 by the
17:28time that game was over.
17:29So, I'm on the golf course on Black Friday with the fam, and so little guy Jude has DeAndre
17:33Swift, and so he's getting super pissed every time that Manungai, because we had the game
17:38up on the phone in the golf cart, and every time Manungai would touch the ball, he'd be
17:43very, very mad.
17:44So, we learned that if you don't, if you're going against him in fantasy, you call him
17:49not my guy.
17:51Not Kyle Manungai.
17:52That's Kyle not my guy.
17:53Okay.
17:54So, he was not your guy this weekend, but that kid, boy, he can play.
17:58He can play.
18:00Right.
18:00I like him.
18:01Swift had 18 carries, dude.
18:03Like, we're playing four quarters, kid.
18:06I mean, he's already like...
18:07Seven yards a tote.
18:09He's also already, like, clinched the one seed.
18:11I'm just, just relax, dude.
18:13In the family league?
18:14Yeah, you're out here.
18:15I'm going to buy you whatever chips you want.
18:17You got nothing going on.
18:19Okay?
18:19Don't worry about DeAndre Swift.
18:22This hit, hit your four iron and let's go.
18:24Dad's 2-11 in the work league, okay?
18:27Can we have some perspective here?
18:28It's true.
18:30It's true.
18:31I actually was 1-11 at that moment.
18:33Ouch.
18:34Yeah, but sorry, Stiney.
18:36He's going to jump up and bite you every now and again.
18:38That guy is such a W.
18:40All right.
18:41So, Stink's going to join us in five minutes.
18:43Mark Schlereth, and we're going to talk all this out.
18:46I find what's going on in the league to be fascinating and a fun watch.
18:51But some people I know, when it comes to parody, they're just sort of like, eh, I don't know.
18:56I don't know what to sink my teeth into.
18:58Boy, I look at the other leagues right now, and don't you wish you had a league full of teams that could all kind of play with each other?
19:07As opposed to the NBA and Major League Baseball, who have 30 teams, but there's six that are trying, and then varying levels of everything else going on.
19:16I think the NFL's completely got the fix.
19:19Yeah, hard cap and hard floor, to me, is the answer in sports.
19:25It'll never happen.
19:26It'll never happen.
19:27But it's the answer.
19:28I don't think it could ever happen in either sport.
19:30Basketball, there's not enough stars to go around to cap or floor and fix that.
19:35I guess.
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