• Assalamu Alaikum brothers and sisters, In today's video, We Asked Both Atheist and Muslim! "Prove Your Beliefs!"- Is There a God? Enjoy Watching.
• Intro
• Do you believe in Allah?
• Why do you believe in a creator?
• Logic behind the absence of a creator.
• What do you mean by force?
• Who is behind the movement of atoms?
• Research
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• Intro
• Do you believe in Allah?
• Why do you believe in a creator?
• Logic behind the absence of a creator.
• What do you mean by force?
• Who is behind the movement of atoms?
• Research
#WeAskedBoth #AtheistVsMuslim #ProveYourBeliefs #IsThereAGod #ReligiousDebate #FaithDiscussion #PhilosophyOfReligion #BeliefSystems #InterfaithDialogue #SpiritualExploration #Atheism #Islam #GodDebate #CriticalThinking #MoralPhilosophy #QuestionsOfFaith #SeekTruth #BeliefsMatter #CulturalPerspectives
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00:00Do you believe in Allah?
00:01I wanted to believe in Him for a long time,
00:03but I couldn't get a response to what I expected from His existence.
00:07I think that the universe was not created without any reason.
00:10I believe that there is a Creator above me.
00:12If you don't know how grass grows, of course, you'd say,
00:14Allah created this grass.
00:16So He knows what will be good and bad for you.
00:18So there is a Creator above that and we call Him Allah.
00:21The places where living things can live
00:23are formed by the collision of atoms and planets with each other.
00:26About the absence of the Creator, how do you explain the logic behind it?
00:30Is it a problem if I post this on YouTube?
00:37Not at all. No. No.
00:39Today we wanted to ask questions to our friends attending a university.
00:42As a university student, do you believe in Allah?
00:44I wanted to believe for a long time,
00:46but I couldn't get a response to what I expected from His existence.
00:49It did not seem convincing to me that these were the reasons for our existence.
00:53After we talk for a while, if you find a logical explanation,
00:56will you say, I found it and become a Muslim?
00:58I am not like ice-cold against religion.
01:01What about you, buddy? Are you a Muslim?
01:02I am a Muslim.
01:02Yes, I believe that the universe was not created without a reason.
01:05I mean, when there are so many beauties, whether they are visible to the eye or not.
01:10I strongly believe that there is a Creator behind all this.
01:13I think there is a Creator who created all this.
01:15Let's say an atheist friend of yours came to you and said,
01:17Why do you believe in a Creator?
01:19Can you give a logical explanation?
01:21What would you say to your friend?
01:23I would say, look at this universe.
01:24These are not for no reason.
01:26Every living thing is made of atoms.
01:28These atoms did not come together for no reason.
01:30We drink water, but the water finds its path to where it will be useful.
01:34I think there is one who created this, even this system.
01:36A Muslim friend of yours came to you and said,
01:38Why are you an atheist?
01:39Can you explain the logic behind it about the absence of the Creator?
01:43How do you explain the logic behind it?
01:44It is something to think about for quite a while.
01:47The things that my friend here said to explain religion, for instance,
01:51are entirely due to his lack of knowledge about this topic.
01:54If you don't know how grass grows, of course, you'd say,
01:57Allah created this grass.
01:59However, a seed was planted there,
02:01and the fertility of the soil caused the grass to grow.
02:04Alright, this looks like, I mean, this is like a counter-argument to our brother's explanations.
02:09We'll continue this.
02:10What would you say to that person when he asks,
02:12about the absence of God, how do you explain the logic behind it?
02:22First, the explanations that religion provided us,
02:24the things we are supposed to do,
02:26and the status of human beings we are supposed to be.
02:29I think these are like something of the past,
02:31still bearing traces of old times.
02:33This is not about religion.
02:35I have yet to come to the religion,
02:36the absence of the Creator.
02:38Come on, you expect an answer like this from me?
02:44The Creator certainly doesn't exist,
02:46because this is the explanation that you cannot provide a reason.
02:50The explanation for his existence is atoms and the extent of the universe.
02:54So, I can say the opposite to come up with the same result.
02:57We have a universe that has been created by these collisions,
03:00and is still expanding continuously.
03:02The places where living things linger are formed by the collision of atoms and planets with each other.
03:07You said the seed grew into a tree.
03:09You said the movements of the planet started with an explosion.
03:12But what I wanted to ask here is this,
03:14to learn how something is happening.
03:16For example, while a seed becomes a tree,
03:19it passes through eight stages.
03:21I learned how it happened.
03:23Why does learning about how the universe is created,
03:25and how it is moving while expanding,
03:27show the Creator's absence?
03:29Doesn't it show the opposite?
03:30The Creator creates by running it through eight stages.
03:33The Earth revolves around its own at 1670 kilometers per hour.
03:36It revolves around the Sun at 108,000 per hour.
03:39I found how it is.
03:40After this, I don't say,
03:42oh yes, it revolves at this speed.
03:43I found out how, so there's no Creator.
03:46It doesn't lead to that.
03:47Quite the opposite.
03:48So, he was revolving the planets at that speed.
03:51It is very reasonable.
03:52I mean very reasonable in terms of thinking.
03:54It is very reasonable from the point of view of your ideology,
03:57but don't think as if you want to prove his existence.
04:00Analyze what is happening.
04:01Alright, for example, we looked at this.
04:03The seed turned into a tree.
04:04Why doesn't Allah exist?
04:06Because there are many possibilities other than Allah to make a seed,
04:10to grow into a tree.
04:11When I look at this,
04:12if atoms have no life in them,
04:13atoms that are without knowledge,
04:15without willpower,
04:16and without strength
04:16could make all of these happen.
04:18When I look at the core of this,
04:19I see the helplessness of the atom.
04:21It is without a conscience,
04:22not alive,
04:23like the example I just gave.
04:24So, as soon as it enters the body,
04:26it recognizes all its organs.
04:27So, it knows what will be good and bad for you.
04:30So, there is a Creator above all that,
04:32and we call Him Allah.
04:33When I consider the atom,
04:34does it have knowledge,
04:35willpower, strength, and life?
04:36Does it have these four characteristics or not?
04:38It doesn't have those,
04:39but if you want me to explain,
04:41I can explain it this way.
04:42Now look,
04:42the movement of the atom is not a conscious act.
04:45It is pushed by something else.
04:46Who pushed it?
04:47As far as I know,
04:48driving forces,
04:49again, force, gravity,
04:52before God pushes it,
04:53there are these forces.
04:54At this moment,
04:55you can say,
04:56Allah already created these things
04:58to move the atom.
04:59You know, we say,
05:00atom does not have these characteristics,
05:01but it is moving, right?
05:02Yes.
05:03Can you show me the force
05:04that influences the movements of the atom
05:05and the revolution of the planets?
05:07What do you mean by force?
05:10What do you mean by a show you?
05:12I mean,
05:13the mass of these planets
05:16because of their size
05:17in the universe
05:18emerges from their existence in space.
05:21The power of planetary approach on each other.
05:24Super.
05:24The power of the planetary approach, right?
05:26They get closer
05:27or the atom moves,
05:28but you can't show the force
05:29because what we call force is not visible.
05:31You can't see it with your eyes.
05:33You can only explain it.
05:34Excellent.
05:35What I'm saying is
05:35if there is a law,
05:37there is someone
05:37who is doing something with the law.
05:39The law indicates
05:39the one doing the work.
05:41The law does not do anything.
05:42You can do something with the law.
05:43Let me give you an example.
05:45I'll draw the letter B here.
05:46Now, I draw the letter B
05:47according to some rules, right?
05:49For instance,
05:50let's call this B rule.
05:51What is the B rule?
05:52You will draw a straight line.
05:53Then,
05:54you will draw two curves from here.
05:56I applied the B rule.
05:57I'm going to ask you this.
05:58Can I say it is the B rule
05:59who drew the letter B?
06:01Can I?
06:04No, you can't.
06:05The man who suggested the B rule,
06:07he created it
06:09out of his own anxiety.
06:11I mean,
06:11I'm going to say this.
06:13The B rule can't write this, right?
06:15Let's say you are right.
06:16B rule can't draw the letter B.
06:18I drew the letter B
06:19by using the B rule.
06:20Also,
06:20imagine that I draw the letter B
06:22always when you ask
06:23who draws the letter B.
06:24What do we say?
06:25We say,
06:26someone with knowledge,
06:27willpower, strength,
06:27and life is behind these drawings.
06:29I'd say,
06:30the B rule doesn't do that drawing.
06:31There is someone drawing
06:32by using the B rule.
06:34I say,
06:34who is this guy
06:35behind the movement of atoms?
06:37Who performs these things
06:38with these rules?
06:39The universe makes the rules.
06:40The formation of the universe.
06:43If it can be observed
06:44that different things occur
06:45when something moves,
06:47then the current formation
06:48of the universe
06:49makes the current rules.
06:51If you say,
06:51brother,
06:51before the sun,
06:52the sun was in a different place,
06:53it traveled around
06:54and came back,
06:55Jupiter was there before,
06:56it came closer and moved away,
06:57you can talk about their movements
06:58just like the movements
06:59in the letter B.
07:00A single point in the letter B
07:02can be replaced
07:03with a certain regularity.
07:04But my question remains the same.
07:06Is it the B rule
07:07that draws the letter B
07:08or is there someone
07:09holding the pen?
07:10There is someone
07:10with willpower drawing B.
07:13I say that there needs
07:14to be willpower
07:15behind the atom.
07:16Isn't it needed?
07:17It is indeed
07:17and I say it doesn't
07:19have to be God.
07:19Okay?
07:20Who else could it be?
07:21No material has the knowledge,
07:23willpower, strength and life
07:24which you accepted too.
07:25If there is no material,
07:26it is shown the existence
07:27of someone beyond material.
07:29We must accept
07:30that someone with willpower
07:31is using the rule
07:32to move it in the background.
07:34We can't say
07:34that he absolutely
07:35has willpower
07:36because it doesn't have
07:37to be the same
07:38for the universe
07:39just like it is
07:39for the B rule.
07:41That's the logic of the rule.
07:42Before the atom,
07:43we thought there was
07:43something else.
07:44For instance,
07:45we said there is only a core.
07:46Root 3,
07:47it's the formation on the basis.
07:49Everything is the core.
07:50But after that,
07:50we discovered the atom.
07:52Why?
07:52We questioned.
07:53But here's the thing.
07:54For example,
07:54it doesn't if we go back
07:55to the basis of this.
07:56Since we are already
07:57evaluating the most essential thing,
07:59it doesn't have
07:59these four characteristics.
08:01From the atom to the cell,
08:02from the cell to the tissue,
08:03and from the tissues
08:04to the organ
08:05in all these stages.
08:06Like the stages
08:06of the initial example
08:07of the plant,
08:08no matter how far I go,
08:09no matter how deep we go,
08:10even to the quarks,
08:11or if we go up,
08:12we ask the same question.
08:14This is about all materials.
08:15I am talking about
08:16the whole universe.
08:17If any material
08:18does not have such properties
08:19from atom to cell,
08:21from small to large,
08:22I say there is willpower
08:23that makes them move
08:24in a certain way
08:24according to a specific rule.
08:26And he does so
08:27in the background,
08:28out of this plane,
08:29looking for the movements
08:29of material
08:30and the solution
08:31in the universe.
08:32Looking for the creator
08:33in the material
08:33is not logical.
08:34I would say
08:35someone in the higher dimension
08:37beyond material
08:38creates and rules
08:39over this universe
08:39with order.
08:40Both are biased.
08:41I mean,
08:42for one thing,
08:43these are not impartial.
08:44There are no ideas
08:45behind it.
08:46But you agreed
08:46in the beginning.
08:47You said the rule
08:48doesn't do something
08:48on its own.
08:49When we look at
08:50the operation of the universe,
08:51if you say this rule
08:52can do something,
08:53that is a contradiction.
08:54The reason why you call
08:54the willpower behind Allah
08:56is because you believe in Allah.
08:57Is that right?
08:58At this point,
08:58what you call Allah,
08:59I can call it energy.
09:00Actually,
09:01we defend the same thing
09:02but lose the connection
09:03when I say creator.
09:05You know,
09:05at the beginning,
09:06we said rule.
09:07When we think about the rule,
09:08we say,
09:08wait a minute,
09:09what we call rule
09:10is the name of the acts
09:11of the creator.
09:11You say energy.
09:12When you think about it
09:13a little bit more,
09:14energy is the source of power
09:15for the movement
09:16of that atom.
09:17When I ask,
09:17what is the force
09:18that makes it move,
09:19we are describing someone
09:20who has knowledge again.
09:22Is that right?
09:22From your point of view,
09:23it already is.
09:24Buddy,
09:24what do you say?
09:25I hope everyone finds
09:26the true path one day,
09:28insha'Allah,
09:28because the true path is Islam.
09:30I tell them to research.
09:31The atheists,
09:32the ones who believe
09:33in other religions research.
09:34They shouldn't do anything
09:35without researching.
09:36What do you say?
09:37I'll ask you this.
09:38When you think about
09:39what we discussed earlier,
09:40there is no sign
09:41that will lead to his absence.
09:42Normally,
09:43you can't prove
09:43the absence of something
09:44but at least there are signs
09:45that lead to his existence.
09:47Maybe one of them
09:48doesn't make sense
09:48but another makes sense.
09:50As you research,
09:51you may say,
09:51wait a minute,
09:52this makes sense.
09:53In reality,
09:54this is a process, right?
09:55Now,
09:55wouldn't it be better
09:56to do this?
09:56Considering all we've talked
09:57about today
09:58from the perspective of logic,
10:00at least,
10:00wouldn't it be better
10:01to accept his existence
10:02and continue your research?
10:04Because you have nothing to lose.
10:06On the other hand,
10:07believing his absence,
10:08even though there is no data,
10:09you accept his absence.
10:11Let's accept his existence.
10:12I'm not talking about
10:13a blind faith.
10:14Otherwise,
10:14there is the fear
10:15of losing eternal paradise
10:16and the existence
10:17of the pain of losing
10:18your loved ones.
10:19Instead,
10:20let's choose at least
10:21one that makes
10:21sense.
10:22Think of it as a palace
10:23with a hundred doors.
10:24When you open a door,
10:25you wouldn't say,
10:26there is no need to enter
10:27while 99 doors are locked,
10:28brother.
10:29We enter and try to open
10:30the other from inside together.
10:32You'll try continuously
10:33and maybe 10 years later,
10:34you'll open the second door.
10:36But this way,
10:36you'll be inside the palace.
10:38Think about it.
10:38We can die at any moment.
10:40You can die any time
10:41after we say goodbye
10:41and go on your way.
10:42At least you'll enter the palace
10:44and continue to research
10:45from within.
10:45If you are going to stand
10:46by one side,
10:47let's stand on the side
10:48of existence.
10:49Try to research
10:50from the perspective of logic.
10:51I have never said anything
10:52about blind faith
10:53while we've been talking.
10:54Have I?
10:55Nope.
10:56No, but...
10:56I say,
10:56let's do our research logically.
10:57We could die at any moment.
10:59Besides,
10:59what do you have to lose?
11:00After all,
11:01no one has died
11:01from knowledge so far.
11:03You know,
11:03humankind is open to knowledge.
11:04You said at the beginning,
11:06your perspective is reasonable.
11:07I say to you,
11:08come inside.
11:08Let's research together logically.
11:10Let's research more.
11:11Talk about the evidence.
11:12Let's talk about it for hours.
11:14Rather than standing
11:15by the absence's side,
11:16let's stand inside.
11:17The research conducted
11:18from within
11:19will necessitate bias.
11:21It is imperative
11:22because I mean,
11:23you can't help but be biased.
11:24Even if I do what you say
11:26at this moment,
11:26I would have done it
11:27for my own interest.
11:28No,
11:29I say come inside with logic.
11:30I can't go inside
11:31just because logic dictates that.
11:33I must internalize
11:34that logic first.
11:35For example,
11:35we have been talking
11:36about dozens of concepts.
11:38For at least one of them,
11:39you said,
11:40yes,
11:40this is reasonable.
11:41Yes,
11:41yeah.
11:42This is a piece of logic.
11:43Sure,
11:43but that can't get me over there
11:45because...
11:45You say you will
11:47open all the doors?
11:49I don't know.
11:49This might be my fault
11:50in thinking,
11:51but if we make no mistakes,
11:52we can't find
11:53the right thing to do.
11:53I think this was
11:54an excellent discussion.
11:55I think I was able
11:56to explain
11:57what I wanted to explain.
11:59You know,
11:59I don't think
12:00I did anything wrong.
12:01I was not accusing
12:02or anything.
12:02You were sincere,
12:03not aggressive.
12:04I hope I was just like that
12:05as well,
12:06inshallah.
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