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Starting a team- How many players in the #NFL would you take before Drake Maye?
(Age, injury history, etc., all in consideration) Ty Law weighs in! Mahomes? Lamar?
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00:00It seems like the ceiling is sky high.
00:04I mean, what a difference one season makes, you know,
00:08and another coach and another coordinator makes.
00:11And I think he's going to be a superstar in this league,
00:15especially if they surround him with more talent, some more protection.
00:20I can tell right now because in the quarterback position,
00:24year one to year two is the biggest.
00:27This is what we're going to see.
00:29You know what I mean?
00:30Other positions, you take a little bit more time to develop,
00:32but when you get drafted that high, you're expected to go in and play right away.
00:36Look what they're going down there in Tennessee right now.
00:39It's bad.
00:40If they had to do it all over again, who would be the number one pick?
00:43Drake May, if they had to do it all over again,
00:46Drake May would be the number one pick by the way he's performing right now.
00:49Drake May was in the draft before Tennessee.
00:52Drake May was in the draft before.
00:53I'm just saying he would be the number one.
00:56He's saying if he had to do Drake's draft, he would be number one.
00:59Yeah, exactly.
00:59And he's talking about, you know.
01:00Right.
01:01Well, I mean, even if you have a word about how bad.
01:03How many guys in the NFL would you take from today going forward?
01:07So, like, the age matters.
01:09How many guys in the NFL would you take before you'd start your team with Drake May?
01:13So, age matters.
01:14Okay, so...
01:15None.
01:16How old is...
01:1723.
01:18Josh Allen?
01:1927 or 30.
01:21Okay, so maybe Josh, Lamar.
01:26Josh Allen is 29.
01:2729.
01:28So...
01:29You would take Lamar Jackson over Drake May.
01:31I wouldn't.
01:31I would.
01:32I would.
01:33Whether it's injuries or everybody always has an issue with him in the postseason.
01:36I mean, we haven't seen what Drake May could be in the postseason, but his personality
01:41does not...
01:42No, I'm not.
01:42I mean, listen.
01:43Drake May is five years younger.
01:44What time?
01:45He's five years younger.
01:45I'm going to still go with Lamar right now because I think...
01:49Oh, God.
01:50No, if you put...
01:51You and Wiggy.
01:51No, no.
01:52This guy is a two-time MVP.
01:54MVP, Greg.
01:54That's right.
01:55Drake May is going to be a one-time MVP.
01:56I have a two-time MVP, though.
01:57You can't win in the playoffs.
01:59Like, the pressure...
02:00Right, and I'm not saying...
02:01The lights are too bright for him.
02:02No, and maybe they are, but I'm not saying...
02:04Put on sunglasses.
02:05I'm not saying...
02:05But we don't know if Drake May is going to win in the playoffs.
02:07Yeah, I feel confident in that.
02:09I mean, Josh Allen don't win in the playoffs.
02:11Like, unless you're winning the Super Bowl.
02:13So, would you take him over Josh Allen?
02:15Great.
02:15Lamar Jackson?
02:16No, I'm talking about...
02:17Drake May?
02:18Yeah.
02:19I would.
02:20Yes.
02:20Josh Allen's 29.
02:21I got recency bias here and Homer bias.
02:24I mean, Josh Allen is...
02:26Contract, age, talent, all taken into consideration.
02:30Drake May is the number one choice.
02:32He is.
02:33All right.
02:33Right now, I mean, we still...
02:35I mean, look, I'm on...
02:37Listen, I love Drake May, but you guys are out of your mind.
02:39But you're talking about...
02:40Like you said, you're out of your damn mind.
02:42It's a two-time MVP.
02:44Wiggy, remind me if I'm wrong.
02:45I'm sorry.
02:46Didn't we have this conversation and people said I'd be crazy to trade him for Burrow?
02:50And now we're saying we'd take him over Lamar Jackson?
02:52Yeah, I mean, listen...
02:53Lamar Jackson is a two-time MVP.
02:55He's a guy that has carried that franchise on his back.
02:59And I think you can also, when you want to use these analogies, saying, okay, if you
03:03take Drake May, you know, and take him away from Josh McDaniel, take him away from Mike
03:09Vrabel, would he perform there?
03:11Or would you put him in Lamar Jackson's office?
03:13If you take Lamar Jackson...
03:15Right.
03:15...or Josh Allen, you put him on the Patriots, would they do better than Drake May is doing
03:21right now?
03:21Hell yeah.
03:22You damn right.
03:22Hell yeah.
03:23You damn right.
03:24So, I think you've got to look at it from that standpoint.
03:26He's not there.
03:27He's coming, and he's going to be a superstar, but right now, in his second year, you can't
03:32compare him...
03:32Yeah, but the conversation...
03:33That's like comparing him to Patrick Mahomes.
03:35Yeah, yeah, but the conversation isn't to win a game tomorrow or to win the Super Bowl
03:39this year.
03:40It doesn't matter.
03:41It is for the rest of your franchise.
03:42Okay, will you put him over Patrick Mahomes, too?
03:44For the future of my franchise, yes.
03:45Patrick Mahomes is entering his 30s.
03:46You say it, age does not matter.
03:49No, I said age does matter.
03:51Age, contract, and talent all matter.
03:53Okay, but so even if age matters...
03:55I am the one who says frequently age does not matter.
03:57That's correct.
03:58All right, Curtis.
03:58You look like you're 28.
04:00But soul of an 18-year-old.
04:01But even if age matters, let's say Lamar and Josh Allen...
04:06Lamar's 28, Josh Allen's 29.
04:08Those guys are still going to be good come 37.
04:11So, let's say you got 10 years with them, and maybe you got 12 to 15 with Drake.
04:18And I don't know, because Drake May is having an unbelievable year, and I think the kid's
04:24going to be good.
04:25But we've seen a lot, a lot of guys in the NFL have one good year and then fall off.
04:31I've seen Josh Allen over, I don't know how many years he's been in the league.
04:34I've seen Lamar Jackson over how many years he's been in the league.
04:36Well, who do you put in that category?
04:38And I'm assuming, are you allowing for injuries or not?
04:42Well, yeah, that's the thing, though, Greg.
04:44For me, Lamar Jackson and Patrick Mahomes and Josh Allen are three guys without hesitation.
04:50Given everything I know, even their contracted age, I'm taking ahead of Drake May.
04:54We don't know what's the most difficult thing, Ty and Wiggy, as a great quarterback.
05:00Doesn't it have to be that you're always on the field and you're durable?
05:03We don't know that.
05:04He might be.
05:05Drake May may play every week.
05:06But if you're talking about durability, then you have to take that into account with Lamar Jackson.
05:10Right.
05:10And I'm still, right.
05:11But even when it comes to an example of somebody having a great year and then whatever falling off,
05:16are you talking like Jaden Daniels?
05:18Like, is that an example?
05:19No, I'm talking about, like, I mean, we've seen them, whether it's RG3 or we've seen it with maybe,
05:27I think Trevor Lawrence had a really good year.
05:30We've seen it with Justin Herbert.
05:31Lamar Jackson has basically played in every single game, except for he's had, like, a couple years where he only played in 12 games.
05:39So has he had injuries?
05:41But everybody can have injuries.
05:42I mean, short of Tom Brady, everybody deals with something.
05:47Right.
05:47And if you're telling me right now for the next five to six to seven, eight years.
05:51I would take Tom Brady today as is.
05:53But I'm saying for the next five to six, seven, eight years, because, you know, 12 years is pushing it or 10 years is pushing it.
06:01Give me Mahomes, Allen, and Lamar without even hesitating.
06:07Because Ty brings up a good point.
06:08And if you put Drake May and Todd Munkin's offense with the Baltimore Ravens, you'd think he would.
06:14They'd still be great.
06:15They have Derrick Henry running the football league.
06:17Bullshit.
06:18Come on, Sean.
06:19Bang!
06:20Come on.
06:21Bullshit.
06:22Oh!
06:22I'm sorry.
06:23Stop.
06:23We have to dump out of that.
06:24We have to stop.
06:25Come on, man.
06:26You can't say that, Lamar.
06:28They still win the division.
06:28Everything is running around.
06:29Come on, man.
06:30How many Super Bowls?
06:31What's Derrick Henry's stats right now?
06:33Huh?
06:33What's Derrick Henry's stats right now?
06:35I think they're decent, but Lamar, before he got hurt, I think he had 12 touchdowns and
06:39one interception or two interceptions.
06:40So he was playing at a high level.
06:41He won one game.
06:43And at one time, we was talking about, hey, Matt Jones look all right.
06:48At one time, we was all saying that, too.
06:51So, again, you have to give him more time.
06:54Greg's still saying it.
06:55And that's kind of disrespectful to talk about putting Drake May as well as he is playing
07:01to, say, put him in the category.
07:03Drake May's running back is averaging the lowest yards per carry in the league.
07:08Right.
07:08You give him the offensive lines and the running backs of the Ravens or the Bills, and he'd
07:13be even better.
07:14Stop it.
07:15That's the crazy start.
07:16Stop it.
07:16Stop it.
07:17I'm probably right about that.
07:17I am.
07:19He's not.
07:19No, he's not.
07:20Absolutely.
07:21So you're saying if Josh Allen is in this offense with Mike Vrabel,
07:33and Josh McDaniels, Drake May's still performing better than him.
07:39I think they'd still be 6-2.
07:41We're not talking about that.
07:42Drake May is not falling off.
07:44I'm not saying he's falling off.
07:46He's every week.
07:47He is breaking records historically.
07:51You know, he's seven games with over 100 QBR.
07:54Hey, I'd say his efficiency is off-chain, but it's about longevity, too.
08:00We're still fairly early in the season.
08:03You know what I mean?
08:03What's the Patriots' record?
08:04Huh?
08:056-2.
08:06If Lamar or Josh Allen are a quarterback, you're 8-0.
08:10Lamar's team is 1-5.
08:11You know, I'm saying here.
08:13I'm saying here.
08:13We're not talking about Baltimore.
08:15Baltimore's team is better than this team.
08:17I got a question.
08:18Patrick Mahomes.
08:19If you put Patrick Mahomes here, do you still take—
08:22You probably ain't know if Patrick Mahomes is here.
08:24I'll give you that one.
08:24And you are with Josh Allen and you are with Lamar Jackson
08:27because in Baltimore, the reason why they stink
08:29is because their defense is pathetic, right?
08:32So let's talk about why they stink in Baltimore.
08:34You put Lamar Jackson here.
08:36You put Josh Allen here because we're talking about those two guys.
08:40We'll keep Mahomes out of the conversation.
08:42This team is 8-0.
08:43No, they do not lose to the Raiders in week one.
08:47And they do not lose to the Pittsburgh Steelers at home.
08:50Nope.
08:50Because your team—
08:51Well, Josh Allen doesn't stop your running back
08:53in the Steelers game from fumbling the football three times.
08:57No, no, no.
08:57But you know why he does?
08:58Because he runs the football.
09:00Right.
09:00So does your quarterback.
09:01When are you talking about James Cook just ran it like 15 or 20 times
09:04literally yesterday or Sunday?
09:05No, Drake—I mean, Greg is saying that in the Pittsburgh game,
09:11Ramondre fumbled.
09:12And I'm saying that if Josh Allen's your quarterback,
09:15he's probably not giving it to Ramondre.
09:17Josh Allen's keeping it and knows why he don't fumble a touchdown.
09:21And Josh Allen is not throwing an interception on the two-yard line.
09:24He's putting back pylon.
09:25So for you to say—and listen, I love Drake, man.
09:27I think he's going to be a great player.
09:29But for you to say that if Lamar Jackson and Josh Allen are here,
09:33that this team wouldn't be 8-0, man, pass me the blunt.
09:36Another question for you because I was doing this last night during dinner
09:41going through the schedule.
09:44Did they just play the best defense that they were going to play this season?
09:48You know what?
09:49They played the best player that they're going to play on defense,
09:53which is Miles Garrett.
09:54You see what happened.
09:55You know what I mean?
09:56He gets five sacks.
09:57So I don't think this is the best defense.
10:01I mean, Cleveland, that's all they got.
10:03I mean, Buffalo's defense stinks.
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