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Drake Maye has been compared to Josh Allen since the Patriots drafted him. The guys discuss what each QB has done at the same age and debate who’d they’d rather have under center.
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00:00This is not fair.
00:01I know it's not, but you've got to start drawing up the comparisons
00:04about where your quarterback is and where Josh Allen is now.
00:07And you know what?
00:08I do want to actually talk about something later on,
00:10because, Ted, you brought this up.
00:11Or maybe it was year three.
00:14Let's compare Josh Allen, where he was at year three,
00:17as to where Drake May looks like he is, and maybe what to expect.
00:21I did a handy AI graphic.
00:23Did you see that?
00:24I did.
00:24I don't know if Glenn will put that up at some point.
00:25Drake May had seven fingers on one hand.
00:27He did.
00:27That's fine.
00:28They still haven't figured out how to do the hands correct on the old grok.
00:31But back in the day, back when Josh was in his third year,
00:35he was considered over-reliant on his arm strength.
00:39Critics threw almost entirely with his upper body.
00:44His arm velocity was not engaged with his lower body.
00:48His decision-making, he struggled to process NFL defenses.
00:52Turnover production.
00:53Reckless.
00:54He threw 12 interceptions compared to just 10 in his third year.
00:57So, I mean, accuracy, 52% his rookie year.
01:02You know, weak supporting cast.
01:04There's a lot of things that we were saying about Josh Allen that you look at Drake May
01:07and you go, okay, well, you know.
01:09Dude, look at him.
01:10He's in his ninth year.
01:11Yeah.
01:12And he is a machine.
01:14How many titles?
01:15I mean, that's fair.
01:16That's fair.
01:17That's fair.
01:17That's the next step.
01:18But I'm just saying, I don't know if it was.
01:19I mean, look, in Josh, five turnovers against Denver last year, that's bad.
01:23But the point is, you've got to have a little bit of patience with these young quarterbacks.
01:27I mean, listen, I think he's better than Mahomes.
01:30I think he's going to remain better than Mahomes.
01:32I'm with you.
01:33I think that as much as I love Patrick Mahomes and his play, I don't think he's going to
01:36ever go back to the dominance that he used to have.
01:39He's got a good team around him, which makes it better, easier to do the type of things
01:43that he does.
01:43Having Kenneth Walker is just, it was genius.
01:46And it was an underrated move, and it's something I didn't even think about much in the offseason.
01:50But man, was that just a very, very smart move that they made.
01:54If you want to crown him, then crown your ass.
01:57But I mean, yeah, any day I would take him.
01:59This isn't really a hot take.
02:00I think most of the people who rank these guys say the same thing.
02:03But I think any day of the week, I would take Josh Allen over Patrick Mahomes.
02:08I would.
02:10It's not even close.
02:11Would you take him over Drake?
02:12Yeah, Josh Allen over Drake, of course.
02:14That's the one guy.
02:15I like Ann Michael.
02:16She's better for this region.
02:18Okay.
02:21Josh's wife is, I think she's kind of cool.
02:23She stays out of the limelight.
02:24She does.
02:25She doesn't step on his toes.
02:28I think there's something cool about that.
02:29It is hard to hate the Bills and Josh Allen.
02:31I will say that.
02:31I'm trying, but it's hard.
02:33It's the one fan.
02:33I can't.
02:34Bills Mafia, I can't hate them.
02:37I loved.
02:38Even their legends like Jim Kelly, you can still kind of feel bad for him.
02:41And Bruce Smith.
02:42Awesome dudes.
02:43All of them, man.
02:44But that was a good game.
02:46And it was wild, too.
02:47I mean, seeing offense, offenses that are properly run.
02:50Even Detroit in that second half looked awesome.
02:53I mean, they really did.
02:54And, you know, at first you're like, oh, man, what the hell's happened to these guys?
02:57And then they figured it out, man.
02:58They figured it out.
02:59I just, I guess maybe I'm just sitting here and I'm thinking about how badly the Patriots played in that
03:06fourth quarter.
03:07And I'm just, I can't wait to have some sort of mouthwash.
03:12Just something to get that awful taste out of there.
03:15Because you've seen so much great offense since they've played.
03:18Well, honestly, the two meetings last year were great meetings.
03:20They were five-star matchups, right?
03:22I mean, and obviously the Pats have changed a good bit.
03:24But you beat them once.
03:26And you shut down their running game in the first, which was important.
03:29And then in the second, you had them dead to rights at halftime.
03:31And Allen came back on you.
03:33But Drake had a chance at the end.
03:34Couldn't get it done.
03:35But really, like, doesn't that give you hope?
03:37That it's still, the gap is not as big as we think coming off a game last night.
03:41Yes, they're 2-0.
03:41Yes, they look great.
03:42But you split with them last year.
03:44And you should have had them in both of those meetings.
03:47Yeah, it's just, it's tough right now sitting here after those two games.
03:50Yeah, it's, but I see what you're saying.
03:52And rationally, a person with a worldview, you know,
03:55you're able to step back and look at the big picture.
03:57Yes, I agree with you.
03:58But, man, that was just awesome yesterday to see that.
04:01You know what?
04:02You watch, you look at both teams.
04:03You look at Jameer Gibbs and you look at James Cook and I go,
04:06I mean, I like Ramondre Steven.
04:07But, I mean, those guys are just another great up than Ramondre.
04:12Who's their best player outside of Allen?
04:14Is it Cook, Kinkade, or Deion Dawkins?
04:17Because Dawkins, their left tackle is just, he's a beast.
04:20He's a wall.
04:20I think James Cook.
04:22I think, and then Kinkade's the third.
04:24I mean, James Cook, you know, 21 carries, 134 yards.
04:27You know, he can catch out of the backfield, too.
04:30So, to me, James Cook is a dynamic back.
04:33It's wild because you just mentioned,
04:34would you rather have Josh Allen over Drake May?
04:36And that's an easy answer.
04:37He's the only person, though, that I could immediately just jump and say,
04:40yes, I'm trying to think this through.
04:42Like, I mean, what quarterbacks in the NFL,
04:45if you could press a button right now and trade
04:47and have be your quarterback instead of Drake May,
04:51who would you press the button for?
04:53If I said Patrick Mahomes, would you press that button?
04:56I wouldn't even take Allen.
04:57He's 30.
04:58Drake is 24.
04:59You have six years to get him to where Allen is now.
05:03For a year or for the next, you know, 20 years.
05:05I just say, for one game?
05:07No, no.
05:07He's your guy.
05:08Straight swap.
05:11It would be hard to give up on Drake.
05:12Yeah, just because of the age.
05:14He's 24 years old.
05:16You wouldn't for Josh Allen?
05:19He's halfway through his career.
05:21And maybe even less than that,
05:22if he's going to run the ball as much as he's been running.
05:24He's not going to last, you know, 20 years.
05:26See, I keep thinking that, but then he just every year.
05:29I've seen Josh Allen get cracked so many times.
05:32I've seen him, you know, get concussions.
05:34I've just been like, dude, this guy's, he's killing himself.
05:38But, dude, he just comes back every year,
05:40and it's just better and better.
05:41Cam Newton broke down eventually.
05:42He was running around.
05:43You know, Steve McNair, he started breaking.
05:45Just guys, big guys that play like they're a linebacker,
05:49it does catch up to eventually, man.
05:51But also, you agree that Cam Newton was unfairly injured.
05:56Like, they didn't call penalties on anybody that had hit Cam Newton.
05:59Like, Cam Newton, like, he never got any calls.
06:00It's a different NFL today.
06:02It is.
06:02You're right.
06:02It is.
06:03Yeah, but I'm telling you.
06:05Would you trade him for Joe Burrow?
06:06No.
06:07No, I would not.
06:08As a matter of fact, right now,
06:10the only one I would absolutely,
06:11without even thinking, press the button would be Josh Allen.
06:13I would trade Drake May for Josh Allen today.
06:16Mahomes?
06:17See, Mahomes is an interesting one,
06:18because I don't think so, because I'm with Ted.
06:20But I know that's going to make me sound like a moron
06:23and make me sound like,
06:24because, I mean, it's Patrick Effing Mahomes.
06:26And the guy does have, you know, winning genetics.
06:28The guy knows how to win.
06:32If it was just for this year,
06:33I would do Allen and Joe Burrow.
06:35But if it's for their career,
06:37like, if you factor in their age,
06:38I would not do him for anybody.
06:39Not one quarterback would I trade Drake May for.
06:41Maybe Milton.
06:42In your support of Drake,
06:45is rooted in what?
06:46Well, his youth and his ceiling,
06:48which is still high.
06:49Like you said, compare him to where Josh Allen was
06:51two years into his career, basically.
06:54Same as Allen was in 2020.
06:57He was, no, but you laid it out perfectly.
07:00What were all the criticisms of Josh Allen?
07:01Now, granted, the arm strength is a notch above.
07:03I think we can all agree on that.
07:05But he's got the 15 years in front of him, right?
07:08To really, I mean, take advantage of the skill set.
07:10But the thing about Drake that we don't know yet is,
07:13you know, will he be a Josh Allen
07:14or will he be a Justin Herbert?
07:17No, he's already better than Herbert.
07:19Herbert's a disaster.
07:20You know what I mean?
07:20It's like, and by the way,
07:21Herbert could end up being something, sure.
07:23I mean, he's got all the right pieces in place
07:25for him to win.
07:25If we're being fair,
07:26most people compare Drake May to Justin Herbert.
07:29Yeah, Herbert has zero playoff wins.
07:31Drake has three.
07:32Yeah, I know.
07:33I'm just, but a lot of people would say,
07:35well, that's bad offensive line.
07:36He's had bad coach.
07:37He had a defensive coordinator.
07:38Justin Herbert did, you know, early in his career.
07:41That didn't work out.
07:42So people make excuses for Justin Herbert still.
07:44They still think he's a really good quarterback.
07:45And that is, but that's the guy that they compare Drake to
07:48more times than not is to Justin Herbert.
07:52I think he's more like a Josh Allen, a smaller version.
07:55Correct.
07:55But I think he's got more playmaking and stylistically.
07:58He looks more like Josh Allen to me.
07:59Either way, that was awesome last night.
08:01I love when you see, like, it was a great game.
08:03And at first I thought, oh God, here we go.
08:05Another blowout.
08:06But man, give it to the Lions.
08:07They really, they scraped, I mean, they clawed back.
08:11Those four straight opening drives were touched.
08:14And they're like, nine play drives, eight play drives,
08:1615 play drives.
08:18Dan Campbell's going to have a heart attack.
08:19It's just crazy.
08:20Real quick, let's go to line two.
08:21Marcus, what's going on, man?
08:23How you doing?
08:23I know who Marcus will take.
08:24Thanks for taking the call, guys.
08:26What's up, buddy?
08:26Hey, why, why?
08:27How come you guys just do not mention Lamar?
08:30Three MVGs?
08:31Three Lamar.
08:32If that was Drake May, if that was Drake May,
08:35Ken would have him running for president.
08:37Hey, Ted, hey, Ted, and you know better than that, Ted.
08:40I do, you're right.
08:41Lamar's special.
08:42Give him some respect.
08:43Like, three MVPs.
08:44He's right.
08:45He's right.
08:46And what more does he have to do?
08:48Hey, Ken, last question.
08:49I'm going to get off the line.
08:50So, in your eyes, Lamar would have to do double what Drake May does
08:54just to be equal to Drake May.
08:56Am I right?
08:56How are you not Wiggy?
08:59You sound so much like Wiggy when you call in, Marcus.
09:02No, because Wiggy's from East Boston.
09:03I'm from Roxbury.
09:04Okay, all right.
09:05That's the difference.
09:06He coached the Roxbury, though.
09:07And I'm an OG to Wiggy.
09:09But, no, thank you guys for taking the call.
09:10Thanks, Marcus.
09:11I love you guys, man.
09:12Thanks, buddy.
09:12All right.
09:13Bye-bye.
09:13Dude, he's absolutely right.
09:15What?
09:15You know what?
09:15Lamar's great.
09:17Let me take you to his stat line.
09:18Again, 29.
09:18He completed 17 passes in week one for 324 yards.
09:24He averaged 13 yards per pass attempt.
09:28One TD, no interceptions, and a QBR of 124.
09:32He looked good.
09:33But, again, these guys are fresh.
09:35Of course, Mahomes and Lamar and Allen are going to look their best early in the season
09:39before the mileage starts racking up on all three of them.
09:42But you don't know how good Drake's going to be.
09:44You know those two guys are great.
09:46Like, you know, I mean, great is tempered because they haven't won anything.
09:50But they play at the highest level all year until, and you know what?
09:55In fairness, there's been certain games where both of those guys have played great, and
09:58it wasn't their fault that they lost in the postseason.
10:00Yeah, yeah, yeah.
10:01I am looking forward to the Raven Saints.
10:02I think that's an underrated matchup this weekend.
10:04How about the Saints?
10:05Yeah.
10:05They're pretty good.
10:06They're on one, but they're pretty good.
10:07Yeah, they put up some points.
10:08Are you kidding me?
10:08But Lamar, Marcus is right.
10:11Got to give him.
10:11Dude, he looks really dialed.
10:13You pressed the button on that one?
10:15Lamar, yeah.
10:16Yeah.
10:17I can't believe I forget about Lamar.
10:18If you want to crown him, then crown him.
10:20That's right.
10:21Big fan of Lamar.
10:22All right.
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