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00:00Satsang with Mooji
00:30We wouldn't have to protect land that was stolen from us anyway.
00:35And I wouldn't have had our sundown.
00:36I feel fucking dosage of a land to be for God's sakes, Vicky.
00:40I heard my dad singing.
00:41It's actually fucking him.
00:43Can I have heard the quote?
00:45Go to the end of your mouth, eh?
00:47Bye.
00:48Bye.
01:00Hear a memory with your boy.
01:09Memories bring us back.
01:16Please, how am I going to find my son?
01:18Too good then, eh?
01:19Kaya.
01:22Fuck you, Kaya.
01:24No, sorry, I had to.
01:25She had all just fucking told me who he was from the beginning.
01:30I got this, Kaya.
01:35Drop the bag!
01:37Shut the fuck up!
01:38Oh, what, bro?
01:48There's a note in there from your mama.
02:00We're getting reports of at least three people dead and many more injured in a blast in central New York.
02:07Bye, boy.
02:07Bye, boy.
02:24We're getting reports of at least three people dead and many more injured in a blast in central New Plymouth this afternoon.
02:31The explosion reportedly went off at Pukihariki at around 2.15.
02:35Some are already calling it a terrorist attack.
03:01Do you remember that play?
03:03Do you remember that play?
03:07I think about those words all the time.
03:14Sam says hi.
03:16He gave me a right back up.
03:19Mm-hmm.
03:19Don't be an arsehole.
03:34I'm not being an arsehole.
03:37That's the rules now.
03:39You want me to follow the rules, I'm following the rules.
03:40No one forced you to go.
03:54Nah.
03:55Just a team of five million.
04:10That's not fair, Viggy.
04:28That's not fair, Viggy.
04:29No ngā mea, kā waka engia e koe, kā re e kore kei runga tōtika, pei raro tā koe putana.
04:37Nau toni te whakatau.
04:38Kā re koe, aro mai ki tētehi tikanga mo tēnei pānau.
04:42Kā rea kukupo maro ki a koe, kia uki o koe kāro nei.
04:47Kā rea kukupo, ae ke a koe.
04:50Kia pēnei mai, kia pēra atu, tiaki a taitai.
04:53Ki aere noi o atua, kia rongo atu te kōrero.
04:56Kia pono a kutikanga mōku anō.
05:01Ia rā, e tātareanga, kia pita tēte i auatani ā, itērua, kia kōrero tāku me mātau.
05:07I'm proud of what I did, Kaira.
05:10Me te māwe mai māua, i ākwe.
05:13Te tāia te aā.
05:15This isn't even about that bullshit.
05:19Your three-year-old son wanted his father.
05:21You weren't here.
05:22You can't wait pēna mai, me mato kinoa.
05:26E rūa, e rūa maromā noa, i āu e matangaro nei.
05:32You're acting like I was locked up for life or something.
05:36Kā rea aki āia, ki ngā tau e eke mai nei.
05:42When all those other parents and kōhanga found out where his father was,
05:47none of their kids were allowed to go near him.
05:50He was left to play by himself for weeks, Mickey.
05:54Kā rea, kā rea, pākuā haki au.
06:01Mō te whakāro o tetehi atu.
06:03Te tiro makutu mai o tetehi atu.
06:07E ngari ano, tāku tanga e raru ana.
06:11Kā rea, mōi o kā ea.
06:13Kaua.
06:23You knew I had nowhere else to take him.
06:29Mōi o nō kui.
06:30Kā rea oi te puaki ikoni.
06:31I know you're a good dad, Mickey.
06:42Your son adores you.
06:49But you...
06:51We...
06:52We have to be more than just...
06:55Good.
06:55Mōi o nōi o tetehi atu.
07:10Kā rea, kā rea te ha, pā rea teigino kā rea.
07:15Oh, my God, my God, my God, my God.
07:45Oh, my God, my God, my God.
08:15Oh, my God, my God, my God, my God.
08:45I remember you from the funeral for my niece.
08:49Kaya, isn't it?
08:50Yeah.
08:51It took me a minute to put two and two together.
08:54Oh, Gary.
08:55I didn't want anything to happen to his gear, so I took it up to my store.
09:03How did you know, Mickey?
09:05He used to cut my hair.
09:08I met your boy a couple of times, too.
09:09Tyson.
09:10I'm Tyrone.
09:12Oh, sorry.
09:17You okay?
09:18You need to sit down?
09:19You know, she used to come up to my store after school, nine years old.
09:42She'd tinker about on all the different instruments.
09:47She was noisy.
09:48And she was hilarious.
09:52She'd stay for hours before I'd take her home.
09:55And all of a sudden, uh, stopped.
10:05God, I missed that.
10:07When she grew up, stopped coming over.
10:13Stopped talking to me.
10:14Yeah, well, it could always make you feel...
10:20If she'd walk into a room and she'd...
10:21You know, her eyes would light up, you know?
10:23She just wanted to learn something from you.
10:25You know, like playing the piano or mixing an eight-track.
10:30And she'd just eat it up.
10:35And she made me feel...
10:38seen.
10:39She could be inspiring.
10:47She could do that.
10:52I don't think I ever gave her enough credit for that.
10:57Those five years have been the quietest of my life.
11:01Just sitting around in that shop.
11:04Went and heard her.
11:06Walked back through the door.
11:07We fought.
11:17And left her.
11:24She was right there.
11:33Um...
11:34You...you want to...
11:36Come up and, uh, grab us things.
11:44Kia.
11:44We'll see you later.
12:15Conrad!
12:22Con!
12:45Conrad!
13:04Are you in here?
13:15I'm on break in five and I need to hit the bank.
13:19Want to pick me up a cake?
13:20Want to tell me why you're leaving?
13:34Do you ever feel like you're gasping for air?
13:39Mm-hmm.
13:43That's been me for the last 20 years.
13:46I've been married for 20 years.
13:52And we've had some great times, you know?
13:55Times when our houses felt so full of love,
14:00it could burst.
14:04And he is so kind.
14:10To everyone, you know, to the iwi, to the boys, to me.
14:17In that order?
14:19No, I don't blame him, you know.
14:22We were high school sweethearts.
14:25Well, we got together after high school.
14:27Why kept him at arm's length?
14:28True to me. Keep him keen.
14:34We lost our first baby.
14:43To SIDS.
14:44Well...
14:45I love it.
14:48T was on his first year on the rig
14:49and we couldn't afford to take any time off.
14:52I tried to give him CPR and I didn't know how.
14:57So young.
15:02You know, he never blamed me for it.
15:05I wanted him to blame me for it.
15:07And baby was so little.
15:18He didn't even have it.
15:19No.
15:22I shouldn't have been able to save that baby.
15:24I told you about Rodney.
15:34This is me trying to make it up till next time leaving.
15:38I thought so.
15:42I just won 50 bucks.
15:4450?
15:46Go buy me a cake.
15:47I already made you one.
15:48Lay me to sleep in this way
16:07Soft and silent
16:10I am free
16:12Come back to life
16:17As I graze
16:19Let the night
16:22Bend
16:22Over me
16:24This is not the world
16:28That I know
16:30This wind blows
16:33With our strange selves
16:38I watched my God
16:40Dark and low
16:41Dark and low
16:45It's body pain
16:50I want to cross me
16:59esteel
16:59I agree
17:04I agree
17:04I agree
17:06I agree
17:08I agree
17:10so just to confirm before we came in that you've been given your bill of rights
17:27that's correct my name is lily brown my rank is senior constable i made an initial statement
17:34yesterday and i consent to this official interview okay well we haven't started the interview yet
17:38so before we get in i just thought we'd go through some talking points okay come in so you've been a
17:49police officer for close on to eight years now correct you're stationed in new plymouth and you're
17:54also a member of the tararaki armed defenders squad is that correct correct how long have you been a
18:03member of the squad nine months so you're proficient with the handling of block pistols and
18:08bushmaster rifles that's correct you've been described by your peers and superiors as level
18:15headed focused and fair you're well respected in this region this is the first time that you've
18:25discharged your weapon in the field yes okay
18:28look constable brown this interview is to record your account of the events leading up to the
18:37incident at the new plymouth hospital an incident that took place under extreme and unprecedented
18:43circumstances where the threat level was immeasurably high so any point if you just need to take a break
18:49okay you just let me know so on october the 28th you were partnered with constable adrian young
18:56you were mentoring in a tuakana taina capacity to aid his return to the front line you were tasked with
19:03this because of your outstanding record as a senior constable i shot a man i thought a man was going to
19:09kill me and so i shot him no no no that's my statement okay and because i shot him a woman died
19:15her name was henny y smith okay she she was killed because i did the wrong thing and she did the right
19:20thing she was killed in a terrorist attack she was killed because i didn't do my job my job is to
19:25protect life and property i did neither of those things that is my statement
19:30well thank you for your honesty constable be ready to do the interview
19:36time and date is 30th october 2025 thursday 9 26 a.m i'm detective inspector nick temple from central
19:52auckland i'm here in new plymouth to investigate a police shooting a shooting that involves constable
19:58brown as you're aware you have powers afforded to you as a police officer we have to investigate you
20:04and your use of those powers specifically how it pertains to the death of mickey williams
20:13thank you
20:18hey surely someone else can do it
20:37me
20:43hey
20:45yahoo
20:46yeah
20:49you
20:51Hey, boys, are you okay?
21:13Yeah, it's the wrong way.
21:15I am.
21:21Liam.
21:31Liam.
21:35What are you doing in here?
21:37This is a crime scene.
21:39Where did you get that, son?
21:41It's my mum's.
21:43Sorry.
21:45Let's go.
21:45Hey.
21:47I know you.
21:51You're going to need this to get out.
21:59Thanks.
22:05I think she could have saved me.
22:09Sorry for your loss, boys.
22:10Excuse me.
22:34The boys want to come in?
22:36I'm here.
22:54It's going to be fine.
22:55It's going to be fine.
23:25But you're going to be fine.
23:30You're going to want to push me out.
23:32You're going to try to get out.
23:42Huia taiki e.
24:12Huia tēnei aituānui.
24:22Huiai i te reri tōko pai ai uti.
24:27Huiai i te reri tōko pai ai uti.
24:34Huiai i te reri tōko pai ai uti…
24:41Tōko pāi ei utu, ingari i tēnei rā, kota i tē reo, tōko pāi ei waka utu, e kore, kore rawa e ngū, tēnei reo.
24:57Akāti māku e ki atu, me maungarongo anō i tēnei tau.
25:02Pakanga mō te wenua i te pukeri, e pakanga mō te tangata, te kaikiri.
25:22Kore rā tau e warewari a tātou.
25:26Ka utonu ki ngā māra, e kore e waimea, e kore e wenumi.
25:39Ai, kore e wenumi.
25:51We wag'd school one day.
25:54Economics.
25:56Oh, but we should at it.
26:04We were friends at first.
26:07She's beautiful.
26:09She's beautiful.
26:10In love.
26:13She kissed me on those steps.
26:17You're never here!
26:19Even when you are here, you're not here!
26:21Yeah, a hate huai!
26:29He ata hua!
26:30O te whakapaukaha ki te tiā ki wā naud, siniti ni!
26:33Ki te kore, te tiā ki wā naud, patata!
26:36Come on.
27:06Come on.
27:36Come on.
28:06Come on.
28:36Come on.
29:06Come on.
29:36Come on.
30:06Stop now or I'll shoot.
30:07I said stop now, Mickey.
30:08Stop now.
30:09Get that thunk.
30:09Stop now.
30:10Stop now.
30:15So it was in his hand when he was shot?
30:19Yes.
30:19Constable Cole confirms that when he arrived on the scene, your gun was drawn.
30:26Prior to that, my hand was on my teaser.
30:28I said, you chose to say, you chose to say, you chose to say, you chose not to use it.
30:39Get your hand out of the bag, now!
30:44Ete taipo.
30:47That means demon.
30:49I don't understand.
30:53Neither did I.
30:54And now that's all I can hear.
30:57What are you saying, Mr. Williams called you a demon?
31:00Not a great reason to shoot someone, is it?
31:03He was behaving in a manner that was quite intimidating.
31:06The same man threatened Constable Young.
31:09Are we trained to see people in a certain way?
31:15Oh, tipi nuku tipi rangi tipi aa.
31:22Ka tipi te wae ka ora te wae he wae ora.
31:27Ka hura tangata uta me turaki atu ki tangata.
31:32Ka hura tangata uta me turaki atu ki tangata uta.
31:37Ka hura tangata uta me turu mai.
31:41Ka hura tangata uta me turu mai.
31:43Ka hura tangata uta me turu mai.
31:45Waka maua ki tēnei o ngā pāu tōrango.
31:49Kea tanumi ana e iakirua tui mā turuturu ko tēnei te wenua.
31:54Te wenua o tātou e waitonua na mātou.
31:58Tūturu o iti waka maua ki a tīna, tīna, aumie.
32:05I had no idea it was even happening.
32:09I had no idea my wife was leading an evacuation.
32:14I had no idea my son wanted to top himself by jumping off that bloody building.
32:26One of you guys saved his life.
32:31While I was down here.
32:36My partner.
32:40I'm not even talking to you.
32:43He shot another-armed Māori man.
32:49Nothing will ever change.
32:52Te oki oki atura ko kautau ko ngamate.
32:55Ko kautau ko ngamate e takotawana.
32:59Adrian should never have been a cop.
33:02No temperament for her.
33:08But what I saw as a weakness in him probably saved your boy's life.
33:12The man I shot.
33:17Your wife saw something in him.
33:21Something I couldn't see.
33:26Something I couldn't see.
33:28Ka uru ora ko e nei o ngā wānau paniana e tangihia nei.
33:36Ka uru ora ko tātou nei.
33:38Tēnei kaupamo o tātou.
33:40Ko te au au rongo.
33:42Te kaupapa.
33:43Tūturu hauiti waka maua ki a tīna.
33:46Tīna.
33:47Tīna.
33:48Aumie.
33:49Si.
33:50Te i!
34:09This way.
34:19I want to help people, Chris.
34:49I want to do good.
34:53No fucking way, bro.
34:55Look at you.
35:05Chris.
35:07Chris.
35:09There's a family here that want to speak with you.
35:11Pretty busy in here.
35:13Is there a complaint?
35:15No.
35:16It's about Adrian.
35:19I want to go to the table.
35:22I want to go to the table.
35:26I want to go to the table.
35:32Chris.
35:33Liam.
35:34Conrad.
35:35Conrad.
35:36Yeah.
35:37Chris.
35:38Liam.
35:39Liam.
35:40Conrad.
35:41Conrad.
35:42Timothy.
35:43Timothy.
35:44Chris, please meet you.
35:45Looks like you've got your hands full here today, so we won't take up too much of your time.
36:00That's fine.
36:01My son here, he knew your brother.
36:04Okay.
36:05How'd you know?
36:07Oh, it was a ring-in for our basketball team some weekends.
36:12Yeah.
36:13Um, your brother was with my son before the bomb went off.
36:17He, um, my wife knew him from when he was recovering in hospital.
36:24And on the 28th, she asked him if he could check on our son.
36:29Your brother saved our boy's life before he then saved a whole bunch of other people down
36:34at the site.
36:36We just wanted you to know.
36:38He was a real good dude.
36:43We didn't want to leave it in the van.
36:48We didn't want to leave it in the van.
37:05Um, the cuppers?
37:06Yeah.
37:07Give me a bit of oil.
37:08Thanks.
37:09Um, the cuppas?
37:27Give them a bit of oil.
37:36I don't...
37:37Oh, any whānau might want to...
37:39No.
37:41Oh, I'll find a home for it all.
37:45Um, she had this on her when she died.
37:52I gave it to her.
37:54She was here on the 28th before...
37:56We played her a recording, too.
37:58Her parents singing, yeah.
38:01I don't know if she called the number or not.
38:04Her phone never turned up.
38:05The thing is, um, she didn't get a tonguey.
38:13You know, uh, I mean, all of this today, the, uh, lifting of tabu, you know, that's all great.
38:19But she, um, I mean, you were at the funeral.
38:24I was all very vanilla.
38:26Yeah.
38:27I liked the song you played for her.
38:32Huh.
38:33She had the minister's face.
38:34Yeah.
38:36Well, all her muse of friends were there.
38:38It was a lovely service.
38:39But don't, don't you think
38:42that he would want her to have a, uh, you know, a proper Māori send-off?
38:49Isn't, isn't that something that she would want?
38:53You know, so that she can
38:54not get
38:56stuck
38:58in the...
38:59I don't know.
39:02Is there a...
39:04No.
39:07Look.
39:08Who cares what he wants?
39:09He wasn't around.
39:12I don't think she was actually searching for him.
39:16What you gave her.
39:18I let her down.
39:23No.
39:28She came back.
39:48Son.
39:51I just want to make sure you're okay.
39:54Tell you, I can't wait to see you tonight.
39:56There's nowhere any of us have to be.
39:58It'll just be us four.
40:00Eating.
40:01Chilling.
40:03Arguing.
40:04Being together.
40:06Thing is, something's happened at the hospital today.
40:09It isn't an easy thing to fix.
40:12I'm doing my best.
40:14We're all doing our best.
40:16I just want to say to you,
40:18I kore e tai a
40:19te katoa o tō tātou nei au
40:21te whakatika.
40:24Most things in life
40:25we have to watch all the time.
40:28Look and look again.
40:30Just to make sure they're okay.
40:33I never told you
40:34and I should have told you
40:35but that picture you drew of me
40:37showed me how you see me.
40:40How I see you
40:41and how you see the world.
40:46It definitely said something about life.
40:48about how those spaces between us
40:51are the things that matter.
40:54Maybe it's all about maintenance, eh?
41:00It's all about feeding each other.
41:07Washing the dishes.
41:08Sleeping.
41:09Eating.
41:10Going to work.
41:11Talking.
41:12Loving.
41:13And just paying attention.
41:14He arotahi ki a kore ai
41:18e ngā horo noa
41:20e pākaru karu noa.
41:23Con,
41:23come home tonight,
41:24okay?
41:26Hei reira tātou,
41:27kore rotahi ai,
41:29ka nohi ki te ka nohi.
41:30From the tail of the fish
41:35To the tip
41:36Money all
41:38Round this world
41:40Want a piece of this
41:42Seems like nothing
41:49Nothin' known
41:51Nothin' known
41:51Is gonna stop it
41:53I know it
41:54I know it
41:54Can feel it
41:57From a boy to a man
42:04And my memories in between
42:07All of these
42:09I would hope
42:10My sons to sing
42:12Yeah
42:13Ooh
42:13Ooh
42:16But them rules
42:19They keep on changing
42:20I'll be f***
42:21If I'm gonna play the game
42:22I paid my dues
42:23Was there on time
42:25You could be the blues
42:28Oh
42:31Leave me sure
42:37She can't see
42:44Her flowers
42:46And through her
42:51Own dreams
42:53Yeah
42:55Talking about
42:58Our home
42:59Land and sea
43:01Talking about
43:06Our home
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