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Daniel Zaragoza defends his WBC Super Bantamweight Title against "The Pocket Rocket" Wayne McCullough on HBO Boxing After Dark.
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00:00:00So now let's turn our attention back to tonight's Boxing After Dark card and upcoming the main event.
00:00:05Daniel Zaragoza, three-time super bantamweight champion from Mexico,
00:00:10gets together with Wayne McCullough, former Olympic silver medalist
00:00:14and 118-pound world champion from Northern Ireland who lives in Las Vegas,
00:00:20and they fight for an all-time record purse in this division of more than a million bucks
00:00:24in Boston, Massachusetts.
00:00:26How does that happen, Larry?
00:00:27Sounds like one of those trick questions in this very tricky game.
00:00:33Briefly, McCullough, although he won a silver medal in the last Olympics,
00:00:38although he is a tough, exciting fighter,
00:00:41couldn't get any promoter in Europe to put any dollars up to sign him.
00:00:45And some shrewd American TV executive did sign him.
00:00:50Now he is so popular over there that he brings in big TV bucks wherever he fights.
00:00:55That's why he is making big purses, and in fact, Zaragoza, at the age of 39,
00:01:01getting his biggest purse ever, and in fact has been living in a hotel suite
00:01:06for the first time in his long career.
00:01:09Zaragoza, likewise, has fought in his hometown of Mexico City just once,
00:01:15finding that the more he traveled, and he's traveled like a secretary of state,
00:01:20the more appreciation there has been for him, the more money he's made, and the more wins he's had.
00:01:28Boston, because of the Irish connection, whatever.
00:01:31We'd follow them anywhere, Jim.
00:01:33Yeah, and if Madeleine Albright, as secretary of state, has to travel as much as Zaragoza has,
00:01:39she may want to take his cut man with her, too.
00:01:41Right.
00:01:42Because that is some itinerary.
00:01:44Well, he's a 39-year-old cagey veteran.
00:01:47Roy, in your last fight, you fought, at age 26, a 39-year-old veteran
00:01:52who tried to throw a lot of tricks at you.
00:01:55Obviously, that's what Zaragoza has to do against McCullough, right?
00:01:57Yeah, he has to try to use his experience to outwit the younger guy,
00:02:02because position and age is definitely in the favor of McCullough.
00:02:06He's much younger.
00:02:07He's much more conditioned, probably.
00:02:09And Zaragoza has been through so much, so much, so much, so, so many times
00:02:14until hopefully he can avoid a rough fight.
00:02:16He won't get cut until late if he avoids a rough fight.
00:02:19And that'll be probably the only chance he has for beating this young guy.
00:02:23Ain't too bad about this dull crowd here in Boston, huh?
00:02:26Yeah.
00:02:26What is going on?
00:02:27They're screaming, they're giving everybody tips.
00:02:30They want to see something that I want to see.
00:02:32And that is?
00:02:33They want to see Roy Jones face Steve Collins.
00:02:35I want to see Roy Jones face Steve Collins.
00:02:37I would love to see Roy Jones versus Steve Collins.
00:02:39Let's do it tonight.
00:02:40Right now.
00:02:42All right, let's turn to the tale of the tape between Daniel Zaragoza and Wayne McCullough.
00:02:47And when he told you about the ages, Zaragoza, at age 39,
00:02:51probably holds the all-time record for most stitches in the face of a fighter
00:02:56to have won three world championships.
00:02:58He's got a one-inch height advantage over McCullough.
00:03:00They both weighed in well under the 122-pound limit, 68-inch reach advantage for the southpaw, Zaragoza.
00:03:08Rules of the bout with Harold Letterman, who, like me, weighs about 165.
00:03:15Go get him, Harold.
00:03:16The Daniel Zaragoza-Wayne McCullough fight is scheduled for 12 rounds.
00:03:19There is no standing eight count, no three knockdown rule.
00:03:23Only the referee can stop the fight, and he can be saved by the bell in a 12th and final round only.
00:03:29Jim.
00:03:31Here he comes.
00:03:33To the music of U2.
00:03:35Has he found what he's looking for tonight?
00:04:40If you saw Phillip Holliday here three weeks ago throwing 125 punches around, you're about to see the same act.
00:04:47This guy is a windmill.
00:04:48He is trained by the legendary Eddie Futch, who's one of the few people in the sport older than his opponent, Daniel Zaragoza.
00:05:02Here are just a few facts about Zaragoza that we haven't gotten in.
00:05:08He's been a title holder in this division off and on ever since 1988.
00:05:13There aren't too many people in the sport who spend nine years fighting in the same weight class down at this level.
00:05:18He's had more 12-round decisions than any current champion.
00:05:22He's fought title fights, as Larry mentioned, in six different countries.
00:05:26When he's not in training for a fight, he smokes five cigarettes a day.
00:05:29He stops, he says, a month or so before the fight.
00:05:33Maso menos.
00:05:33He is his own man, a thousand percent.
00:05:38He is a real warrior.
00:05:41Looks like he's had two or three facelifts.
00:05:44But he's done some facelifting on a lot of opponents.
00:05:51Great old guy.
00:05:59I'm thinking of the late Alan Malamud, who wrote a wonderful column for the Los Angeles Times,
00:06:04and before that, the Los Angeles Herald-Examiner for a long time.
00:06:07One of the great boxing fans of all time and a real journalistic institution on the West Coast.
00:06:12And this was Alan's favorite fighter.
00:06:15Alan died toward the end of last year.
00:06:17We miss you much.
00:06:18You'd have loved to have been here tonight to see this scene.
00:06:25And the record for Daniel Zaragoza.
00:06:2853 wins, seven losses, three draws, only 27 KOs.
00:06:32Indeed, in his 63 pro fights, he's fought more rounds than has Julio Cesar Chavez in 99 professional fights.
00:06:42And now let's go up to the ring announcer, Mark Barrow, for the introductions.
00:06:48Ladies and gentlemen, America presents an HBO Sports in association with
00:06:54Mohegan Sun and Budweiser, the undisputed, undefeated king of beers.
00:07:00This buzz for you presents the Boxing After Dark main event of the evening, 12 rounds for the WBC Super
00:07:11Phantomweight Championship of the World.
00:07:15Ring officials assigned by the World Boxing Council, attending President Jose Suleiman,
00:07:22attending supervisor from England, John Mulreys.
00:07:28Your judges at ringside are from Quincy Mast, Don Flaherty, from Los Angeles, California, Chuck
00:07:38Hassett, and from Barnegat, New Jersey, Barbara Harris.
00:07:43Your referee for this event, also from Barnegat, New Jersey, here is the tough, Tony Fede.
00:07:52Now, ladies and gentlemen, here are the principals, beginning first in the red corner to my left,
00:08:00wearing the New England Patriot jersey and white front, purple, black, and silver trim.
00:08:08He weighs 120 pounds.
00:08:12He is undefeated in 20 professional bouts.
00:08:17He has 14 knockouts to his credit.
00:08:20He hails from Belfast, North Ireland, the former WBC Phantomweight Champion of the World
00:08:29and challenger, Irish Wayne McCullough.
00:08:36McCullough in the blue corner, wearing red trunks, gold trim, weighing 121 and a half pounds,
00:08:53professional record, 53 victories, 7 defeats, 3 dogs.
00:08:59He has 27 wins by way of knockout, El Hijo de Mexico City, Mexico.
00:09:06He is the WBC Super Phantomweight Champion del Mundo.
00:09:12Here is Daniel Zaragoza, Zaragoza, 12 rounds for the WBC Super Phantomweight Championship of the World.
00:09:26You already got your instruction in the dressing room.
00:09:41Recibieron las intrusiones en el dressing room.
00:09:43Por favor, obedecen mis intrusiones.
00:09:45Avoid my commands.
00:09:46Protect yourself at all times.
00:09:48Protégete en todo momento.
00:09:49Chequenme alma.
00:09:50Y buena suerte a los dos.
00:09:51In the big picture, Jim, the point of this fight is to find out whether McCullough belongs up there
00:09:59with Junior Jones and Barrera and the top guys in this division.
00:10:04If he's got the right stuff, the younger guy should be able to do it.
00:10:10He definitely has the condition and he definitely has the personality.
00:10:14One of the best guys you can ever meet in boxing.
00:10:21Zaragoza crouching in the southpaw style.
00:10:25McCullough comes out and tries to throw as many punches as possible from the beginning.
00:10:29Eddie Butch told McCullough, you got to throw 120 punches around.
00:10:33Don't give this guy room to breathe.
00:10:37Hard left hand by Zaragoza.
00:10:39Among his many qualities, McCullough has a pretty good chin.
00:10:49Zaragoza's chin is cosmic.
00:10:58Straight right hand landed by McCullough.
00:11:01Zaragoza shrugged it off.
00:11:02That's a good body shot by Zaragoza.
00:11:16That shows you the experience of a champion, of a veteran champion.
00:11:20It'll be interesting to see if he can quiet this crowd, Roy,
00:11:23because given the scene at ringside as they came in,
00:11:26you would have thought we were in Belfast.
00:11:28To be honest with you, Jim, I think the crowd kind of builds the momentum for Zaragoza.
00:11:36I think he wants to silence the crowd.
00:11:38Okay, break, break, break.
00:12:04Daragoza is getting off first here,
00:12:29and he's causing Wayne McCullough a lot of problems.
00:12:31McCullough looks a little tight.
00:12:32McCullough looks as though he's confused by the southpaw target,
00:12:36and Zaragoza is loose as a goose in there.
00:12:40McCullough has never fought a left-hander as a professional.
00:12:43He fought many of them in the amateur ranks.
00:12:47Right now, the pattern of the fight,
00:12:49Zaragoza just trying to pot-shoot him with clean shots.
00:12:54McCullough trying to overwhelm him with volumes of shorter shots.
00:12:58Zaragoza landing a counter right.
00:12:59McCullough bearing in, trying to get to Zaragoza's easily cuttable face.
00:13:06Zaragoza doing a very smart thing by punching McCullough's body a lot.
00:13:09He's trying to wear McCullough down so McCullough won't be so strong in the later round.
00:13:13At ringside, Gerald McCullough, his wife, who lives with him in Las Vegas.
00:13:28They came to America four years ago.
00:13:31A couple of young kids who knew nobody.
00:13:34They had a suitcase apiece.
00:13:36They said they never would have made it without each other.
00:13:39But so far, all's well.
00:13:41They now live in that section of Las Vegas that houses Andre Agassi
00:13:46and Mike Tyson and various others of their ilk.
00:13:48Okay.
00:13:49Okay.
00:13:50Okay.
00:13:51Hey, Chuck.
00:13:52That's me living up there, right?
00:13:53Keep trying to laugh.
00:13:54You've got to keep that head going.
00:13:55You've got to keep the...
00:13:55Okay.
00:13:59Okay.
00:14:02Hazlo perder la distancia compasio.
00:14:04Try to keep the distance between this guy.
00:14:08Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
00:14:10It's going to be very interesting to see
00:14:11if Dea Zaragoza can keep up this pace for four rounds.
00:14:15McCullough's punch-out putting round one
00:14:17way below where he'd want it to be.
00:14:19He threw 85 punches.
00:14:20But remember, this is a guy who would rather throw 115,
00:14:23and that's what his trainer wants him to do as well.
00:14:26Very interesting.
00:14:27They told him to not sit outside with Dea Zaragoza.
00:14:30Break, break, break, break, break, okay.
00:14:31Okay.
00:14:45Zaragoza countering easily in there against McCullough.
00:14:57Able to land clean shots when Wayne McCullough tries to get off.
00:15:01McCullough trying to go to the body,
00:15:03and there he lands a right-hand shot coming up and under.
00:15:07But he should stay on Zaragoza.
00:15:08He shouldn't give Zaragoza room to work
00:15:10because that's what happens right there when you get Zaragoza room to work.
00:15:15You can't let a southpaw get off on you first.
00:15:18And this is what Wayne is doing.
00:15:20When they separate in the middle of the ring,
00:15:22Zaragoza is the first one to start punching.
00:15:25The only good thing about this is that he may wear himself down.
00:15:31The crowd rises in intensity
00:15:34as McCullough is able to land a couple of shots
00:15:36against Zaragoza on the ropes.
00:15:37Zaragoza still countering Wayne McCullough's stuff
00:15:41and beating him to the punch in the middle of the ring.
00:15:43And landing the better of the punches right now.
00:15:47Good body shot by Wayne.
00:15:49That's a very good investment for a long fight.
00:15:51Yeah, that left hook to the body could work very well for him
00:15:54if he keeps going to it.
00:15:56There's Zaragoza with a couple of right hands
00:15:58against McCullough to come out of the corner.
00:16:01And a straight left.
00:16:03Anytime Zaragoza gets off first,
00:16:05Zaragoza usually gets the better of the exchange.
00:16:10McCullough snapped Zaragoza's head back with one right hand.
00:16:15Now McCullough starting to throw more freely,
00:16:17not pushing his punches quite as much anymore.
00:16:23His face is very red
00:16:24by the punches of Zaragoza already, though.
00:16:27Zaragoza making him pay every time he tries to get in close.
00:16:44You can't continue to let Zaragoza punch him just clean all night.
00:16:48And already the crowd has started to die down just a little bit
00:16:59as they can see the technical proficiency
00:17:01of the ancient southpaw
00:17:03dealing with McCullough face-to-face.
00:17:06Now it's time to come to a close,
00:17:15and when we go to Zaragoza's corner
00:17:17to listen to trainer Nacho Bernstein.
00:17:20Our interpreter is Hektor Garcia.
00:17:23He's squatting down and that's a good opportunity, use that uppercut, you left uppercut, you
00:17:35have to gain some confidence.
00:17:45When you throw the one, two, three, one, two and then hook to the liver.
00:17:52This guy needs time.
00:17:53You know the way?
00:17:54Take back and take his time.
00:17:55As soon as, as soon as you get in there, come on, come on, come on, come on, come on, come
00:18:12on, come on, come on, come on, come on, come on, come on.
00:18:15This is the type of fight in which a McCullough style fighter has to pay a price early in
00:18:24hope of wearing his opponent down and getting him late.
00:18:26Pretty tough down, or pretty tough to wear down Daniel Zaragoza who has more experience
00:18:38going the 12 round distance than any other fighter in the sport today.
00:18:42Good right hand shot by McCullough.
00:18:47Straight right hand beginning to work for McCullough.
00:18:49Now he goes to the body with the straight right.
00:18:56There's 30 seconds of round three, some of the best work yet for McCullough, but now Zaragoza
00:19:02lands that straight left hand shot in the middle of the ring.
00:19:06In the time a guy can be 39 years old and still be in the top three or a champion, that says
00:19:13something remarkable about that guy in boxing today.
00:19:17Now McCullough pounds Zaragoza against the ropes.
00:19:20Zaragoza counters back with the straight left hand and goes to the body with the right.
00:19:25McCullough to the body with the left.
00:19:27Both guys trading clean shots in that exchange.
00:19:31And look at the work that Daniel Zaragoza is able to do.
00:19:35Yeah, it was, it was McCullough who backed out when it's when he seemed to have the advantage
00:19:40right in this corner.
00:19:44McCullough said, I'm sorry, Zaragoza told us, says I'll try to beat him with technique,
00:19:53and if technique doesn't work, I'll try to beat him with heart.
00:19:58You can see that he's got both.
00:20:01Good left hand by Zaragoza.
00:20:06Right hand shot by McCullough.
00:20:08Zaragoza momentarily stops punching as McCullough pounds to the body.
00:20:12Zaragoza is blocking a break.
00:20:14Many of those punches, though.
00:20:16And he's staying calm under pressure.
00:20:19This is something that most young fighters won't be able to do.
00:20:23But he has a cut.
00:20:28It looks like he has a small cut over his left eye, Zaragoza.
00:20:32What a surprise.
00:20:34Larry asked Zaragoza in the meeting yesterday, how does it make you feel
00:20:46when your opponent cuts you?
00:20:47And Zaragoza said, I want his blood in return.
00:20:50That was a good right hand by Wayne, though.
00:20:55McCullough has landed more clean shots in this round than in the first two rounds combined.
00:21:03Zaragoza is landing some deadly body shots, too.
00:21:09See five of his left walking in the first two rounds.
00:21:11Now.
00:21:13Okay, first of all, let's go again and say,
00:21:16Here's a quick break.
00:21:17Take a deep breath.
00:21:18Take a deep breath.
00:21:19Okay, come on.
00:21:20Go ahead, go ahead and say.
00:21:21Yeah.
00:21:22Keep that in the ground right.
00:21:24Okay, look.
00:21:25If you can even close it.
00:21:27Don't think he is just a count.
00:21:30If you can only see the hand,
00:21:32keep the hand.
00:21:34I mean, can you get him in close,
00:21:36get him in close, keep the hands in tight,
00:21:39keep the time of the day he's living.
00:21:41You gotta keep that pace going all the time.
00:21:43Yeah.
00:21:47That's the bucket I want.
00:21:48That's the bucket.
00:21:53This was McCullough's best round,
00:21:55whether he won it or not.
00:21:56And there you saw his best shot of straight right hand.
00:22:01No fair.
00:22:03He lowered his head too much.
00:22:07Okay, he lowered his body.
00:22:09Okay, he lowered his head too much.
00:22:10Okay, he lowered his body.
00:22:11Okay, that's me, that's me.
00:22:13Okay.
00:22:14Punch that numbers through three rounds,
00:22:18show a clear edge for Zaragoza,
00:22:21who has landed 100 power shots to only 56 for McCullough.
00:22:29Triple get shot,
00:22:34but our danny begs.
00:22:35The second round goal.
00:22:36What's the game.
00:22:37The second round goal.
00:22:39Fix for McCullough.
00:22:41By some time.
00:22:42I'm gonna cross the keys.
00:22:43At some time.
00:22:45We're gonna cross the blank.
00:22:47They're gonna coast.
00:22:48And the first round goal.
00:22:49Give him how it seems.
00:22:50That's gonna take you guys out theกoda.
00:22:52I think he'll hit Daniel a little bit more.
00:23:22I wonder if that's what his wife, Cheryl, was signaling to him with her fingers between rounds.
00:23:29I wonder if Cheryl was saying, throw the right after you land the left hook.
00:23:36Oh, good body shot by there.
00:23:38Right hand to the body, yeah.
00:23:43Roy Jones laughing between rounds at the sheer cool of Daniel Zaragoza,
00:23:48who shows all the stress of a guy standing behind the pharmacy counter,
00:23:53parceling out the penicillin tabs.
00:24:03He reminds you of a pit bulldog.
00:24:05A pit bull doesn't get too excited about much,
00:24:08but if you want to fight him, he'll fight you for it.
00:24:22Round four, a tactical round, and that's good for Zaragoza.
00:24:27McCullough would like to make this an all-out war.
00:24:29So far, he has not been able to do so.
00:24:38At this pace, Zaragoza has tactical advantages.
00:24:43That's what we spoke about earlier.
00:24:44We said if Zaragoza could get off first and keep it from being a slugfest,
00:24:49he could win the fight.
00:24:50Zaragoza's not doing much damage in this round,
00:25:00but McCullough's very tentative.
00:25:01Larry?
00:25:02I thought McCullough just landed two or three really nice left hands.
00:25:06More hand signals from Cheryl McCullough to her husband
00:25:33as he goes back to the corner.
00:25:34You know what I mean?
00:25:35Okay, you've got to put that left foot,
00:25:37when you've got the left foot on the outside,
00:25:38you can't stay there.
00:25:39You have to slowly slide to your right,
00:25:41you know, keep him punching off balance.
00:25:42All right, you've got to get the right hand started.
00:25:44If you can't start on the outside,
00:25:45get a little closer to him to take the left foot
00:25:47and get the right hand going.
00:25:48And once you do that...
00:25:50Don't open your eye.
00:26:04I have it under control.
00:26:08You did a lot more now throwing to the liver.
00:26:11You're doing real good.
00:26:12Oh, I think he's going to...
00:26:14He's ready to go.
00:26:15He's ready to go.
00:26:16Okay.
00:26:18Okay.
00:26:19Okay.
00:26:20Okay.
00:26:21Nell Torrance and Eddie Futch.
00:26:25Final instructions to Wayne McCullough.
00:26:27Daniel Zaragoza listening to his man, Nacho Beristain.
00:26:30Harold, four rounds, your score.
00:26:41Jim, age of a beauty, four rounds to nothing,
00:26:4420 to 36, Daniel Zaragoza.
00:26:46I think he's just landing the hardest shot.
00:26:48He keeps catching him with that left hand,
00:26:50and that left and the right hand with that dopey expression
00:26:52after he whacked McCullough low at the end of the fourth round.
00:26:56I have it.
00:26:57Three rounds and one round even.
00:26:59Zaragoza.
00:27:00Oh, good left hand by Zaragoza.
00:27:02He's throwing a right hook that is causing Wayne McCullough some problems.
00:27:06Wayne can't quite figure out how to stop this punch.
00:27:11A left hook.
00:27:12Okay, break.
00:27:13Back lane.
00:27:14Okay.
00:27:20Oh, good right hook.
00:27:21Hard right hand by Zaragoza.
00:27:23And when he lands that right hook,
00:27:25it gives him a chance to throw that wide, sweeping left hand over the top.
00:27:29He's been landing that as well.
00:27:33He's landing anything he wants to when he feints McCullough.
00:27:37He feints at McCullough and makes McCullough react, then he attacks.
00:27:41When I say feint, I mean he fakes at him.
00:27:45Makes him do something, then he attacks him.
00:27:46So the edge in experience and craft is showing up here.
00:27:51Right now it is.
00:27:52But you still have more than half the fight left.
00:27:55And all that should be in Wayne's favor if he continues to quit the issue.
00:28:01Hard right hand by McCullough.
00:28:02Back Zaragoza into the ropes.
00:28:05Proud love that.
00:28:06See, there, you fake that a three-time with the belt before you really do it.
00:28:17Another right hand lands for McCullough.
00:28:22Zaragoza keeping the younger man off balance when he can with those feints.
00:28:25And with the right hook, the left hand over the top.
00:28:29Now McCullough is starting to get to the body and occasionally land the right hand up top.
00:28:33I think Zaragoza is reminding McCullough to go to the body by hitting McCullough to the body.
00:28:38And I think Zaragoza having been pressured across the ring knows that he needs a shot to even things up.
00:28:59And he turns around and fires the right hand hard to the body at McCullough.
00:29:02And I think Zaragoza has a small cut under his right eye, too.
00:29:05Oh, another good body shot by Zaragoza.
00:29:08These body shots are hurting Wayne McCullough.
00:29:09That one hurt him bad.
00:29:11That body shot hurt Wayne McCullough very bad.
00:29:13And he's not thrown a punch since the body shot.
00:29:15That body shot hurt him, too.
00:29:17That gives Zaragoza a chance to do some work.
00:29:23Hard left hand to punctuate the round by Zaragoza.
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00:30:01What a face, huh?
00:30:02Distrae-lo arriba y le rematas con toda tu potencia al cuerpo, que fue lo que le causó daño.
00:30:08El resto de los ojos que fue mal.
00:30:10Espera.
00:30:11La grasa?
00:30:12La grasa?
00:30:13A ver, voltea.
00:30:15Pa.
00:30:16There you see Zaragoza navigating the Irish Sea rather smoothly.
00:30:23Chops through with a left hand to the ribs.
00:30:26Zaragoza in the fifth round landed 52% of his 88 attempted punches.
00:30:32McCullough down at 30%.
00:30:34He's been there or below through most of the fight.
00:30:37Junior Jones is seated at ringside, hoping for a big payday with Wayne McCullough.
00:30:42And a disgusted Junior Jones just got up and walked away from his seat.
00:30:46After giving me a look of disgust that seemed to indicate, for McCullough, he can't fight.
00:30:51I wouldn't say he can't fight.
00:30:54He's just befuddled by this experienced, more experienced veteran.
00:30:59He's never faced anybody with this type of experience.
00:31:03Junior knows he'd never make the same kind of money for fighting somebody like Zaragoza
00:31:07that he would have gotten to fight somebody like Wayne McCullough.
00:31:09So he'll be hoping for a McCullough comeback down the stretch.
00:31:15Round six of a scheduled 12.
00:31:17The Irishman getting a little bit of a technical lesson so far
00:31:23from the 39-year-old Mexican wonder.
00:31:29Now here comes McCullough with something more accustomed to his style.
00:31:35And Zaragoza stopped punching as McCullough rakes him against the ropes.
00:31:40Zaragoza is blocking 90% of those punches.
00:31:44With his gloves.
00:31:45With his gloves and his arms.
00:31:47Oh, but those are not blocked.
00:31:50Those are flush.
00:31:58When they get into the middle of the ring, it's a mismatch.
00:32:02A headbutt.
00:32:06And the two fighters slap gloves in a sportsman-like display
00:32:10before they go back to work.
00:32:11Now McCullough may yet win this fight, but he's going to learn a lot doing so.
00:32:26Looking for blood on Wayne McCullough, and he drives Zaragoza back into the ropes.
00:32:39A new sense of urgency from McCullough.
00:32:41There's blood in the hairline of Wayne McCullough.
00:32:56There's blood up above the left forehead of McCullough, and that could have come from the butt.
00:33:01Yeah, exactly.
00:33:01I think that came from the butt because I've seen him touch his head after the butt.
00:33:05Yeah, but it's not in a dangerous place as far as we can see.
00:33:09I don't see any blood trickling down the forehead yet.
00:33:12Both guys landing clean shots as the trade punch is down the stretch of round six.
00:33:25Ah!
00:33:37Okay, take a deep breath.
00:33:38Give me a deep breath.
00:33:40Okay.
00:33:40Take a look and see.
00:33:49There's no ifs and ands in this fight, but here's a butt right there.
00:33:52The first air for the fight definitely has gone to Zaragoza.
00:34:00Yeah, that's right, just get your hands moving, okay?
00:34:02Keep your left foot on the outside out there, and stop in front of him, and load those shots.
00:34:08Don't worry about the fight.
00:34:09Don't worry about the fight.
00:34:10Don't worry about the fight.
00:34:11I hear anybody working out, see?
00:34:12Be safe enough.
00:34:13Okay.
00:34:14McCullough now has to step it up if he's to have a chance.
00:34:17But Zaragoza told his Jim that the reason he has stayed in such great shape is because of
00:34:25his discipline in and out of the ring, out of the ring, out of the ring, in effect, he said,
00:34:33no sex, no drugs, no rock and roll.
00:34:47No.
00:34:48No.
00:34:49No.
00:34:50No.
00:34:51No.
00:34:52No.
00:34:53No.
00:34:54No.
00:34:55No.
00:34:56No.
00:34:57No.
00:34:58No.
00:34:59No.
00:35:00No.
00:35:01No.
00:35:02No.
00:35:03No.
00:35:04No.
00:35:05No.
00:35:06No.
00:35:07No.
00:35:08No.
00:35:09No.
00:35:10No.
00:35:11No.
00:35:12No.
00:35:13No.
00:35:14No.
00:35:15No.
00:35:16No.
00:35:17No.
00:35:18No.
00:35:19No.
00:35:20No.
00:35:21No.
00:35:22No.
00:35:23No.
00:35:24Hard left hand shot by Zaragoza, momentarily freezes McCullough.
00:35:29Now McCullough trying to indicate to referee, Tony Perez, that he's getting hit below the belt.
00:35:33Oh, good right hand by McCullough.
00:35:56And the left hand by McCullough, and another left by Zaragoza.
00:36:00They're trading a lot of shots in there.
00:36:09Already I can see that Wayne has learned a little because now he's trying to fake at Zaragoza something like Zaragoza was doing him earlier.
00:36:30That left hook that Zaragoza is throwing is wearing Wayne's head out.
00:36:42That's really a left cross. It's a step across punch.
00:36:46Yep.
00:36:46He throws it with a looping motion, but it is wearing McCullough out just as you said, Roy.
00:37:01Zaragoza has spent his entire career throwing unlikely punches from unlikely angles and producing unlikely wins.
00:37:08He goes to Japan and beats a Japanese fighter. Goes to Europe and beats a European.
00:37:13Comes to Boston to fight an Irishman in front of a largely Irish-American crowd.
00:37:18And is controlling most of the action up to this boy.
00:37:20Don't go against the rope, because right there you're giving them the fight.
00:37:43Don't go against the rope.
00:37:44Your face is very clean.
00:37:48Just a little swollen, nothing to worry about.
00:37:54Give him the grease.
00:37:57Breathe in.
00:37:59You're winning this fight by a very little margin.
00:38:03I'm repeating.
00:38:04You're giving up the fight if you fight in the center.
00:38:07What happened?
00:38:10You're dead.
00:38:13Zaragoza doesn't punch hard, but he's got enough of these accurate arrows in his quiver to build up a points lead.
00:38:24Okay, okay, okay.
00:38:26And round seven was the eighth, or the fifth consecutive round, I should say.
00:38:33The fifth round in a row, in which Zaragoza threw more punches than McCullough.
00:38:38Again, that is completely in counterpoint to what McCullough and Eddie Futch and Feltorrens wanted to do in the fight.
00:38:47Carol Letterman, seven rounds.
00:38:50Your score.
00:38:51Larry, I've got it.
00:38:52Five rounds to two.
00:38:5368-65, Daniel Zaragoza.
00:38:55You know, boxing judges score fights on effective aggressiveness, and I'll tell you something.
00:39:00Until the sixth round, Wayne McCullough was aggressive, but not effective.
00:39:04In six and seven, at least when he came forward, he would score punches, and that's why I gave him those two rounds.
00:39:08But I've got Zaragoza three points ahead.
00:39:11I have it five, one and one for Zaragoza.
00:39:25There's another one.
00:39:39McCullough lands a left hand.
00:39:40Zaragoza lands a left hand.
00:39:42Replot.
00:39:45Crowd trying to lift the young Irishman.
00:39:50Referee Tony Perez separates the two fighters.
00:39:53Wayne McCullough has never in his career had a knockout beyond the eighth round.
00:39:57Daniel Zaragoza has gone the 12-round distance more than any other active fighter in the sport.
00:40:02By Daniel Zaragoza starting his attack first,
00:40:05he has basically neutralized any of McCullough's attacks.
00:40:09The low punch.
00:40:12Perez is giving Zaragoza some time.
00:40:17Zaragoza says, let's go.
00:40:19Very calm Zaragoza in response to that.
00:40:22Incidentally, you see referee Tony Perez doing his work in there.
00:40:26At ringside, one of the three judges, his wife, Barbara Perez,
00:40:29they're the only husband and wife ever to have occupied those roles at a championship bout.
00:40:34This is the third time they've done it.
00:40:51Oh, holy, holy, no point.
00:40:52No, no.
00:40:56This is a young fighter being taken to school by a veteran fighter.
00:40:59This is a young fighter.
00:41:23Right.
00:41:25Stop.
00:41:25Stop.
00:41:26Eight rounds in the books. Four to go.
00:41:56Okay. Okay. When you get the point of story, you have to keep him going. If you get the combination going, you can't pull back outside. Yeah, I know he's off, but let's stay there. Once you get the combination going, don't stop in front of it. You know what I mean? Bang, bang, bang. Go on the bang, bang. Come back up with your head. Come back with your head. You need to left hook a little more, okay?
00:42:25You're just going to be like you did.
00:42:30Okay.
00:42:31Zaragoza looks like a battered old jalopy, but he can move it down the road.
00:42:48I give Wayne McCullough a lot of credit. Most young fighters would have given up by now.
00:42:52They would not be still trying to knock this guy out like he knows he needs.
00:42:58Watch your head, okay?
00:43:05Zaragoza keeps his cool again.
00:43:06So now Perez has given one low blow warning to McCullough, and one headbutt warning to McCullough. And McCullough can scarcely afford to lose a point.
00:43:23McCullough is learning a lot in this fight. He's now starting to go to the body more. He's using the same things that I said Zaragoza was using against him earlier. And he's beginning to hit Zaragoza a little more.
00:43:36But one thing he's learned is that if he lives right, pays attention, sticks to his knitting, he might have a better chance to, or a chance to be a better fighter when he's 39 than he is when he's 26.
00:43:46Not this kind of fighter, Jim. This kind of fighter lives fast and dies young. He has a few good years with this all-out style. You can't fight this kind of style for a very long time.
00:44:02Unlike Zaragoza. Now is his time if he's got the stuff. Yeah, I guess you're right there because the defensive fighter usually will last a lot longer than a guy who comes through the head and takes the punches.
00:44:17McCullough's left eye is beginning to close. He's got some heavy swelling below the brow and above the lid on the left eye. That could be a factor as the fight goes on. Low blow body punch by Zaragoza.
00:44:39Yeah, that was a low blow in. I thought it was a good fighter shot. McCullough's starting to throw jams.
00:44:46One thing that is also happening here, Jim, that nobody has noticed is that Zaragoza is pushing McCullough back a lot more than McCullough has ever been used to in his entire career.
00:44:56He's never been used to backing up and trying to fight a guy. Now there's a cut on the scalp of Zaragoza. And as he said, when he when he feels his blood, he wants the other man's.
00:45:21And Zaragoza just landed an excellent body shot right in the middle of McCullough's stomach.
00:45:28So now both guys are bleeding above the hairline. Zaragoza's right eye is swelling just a little bit. McCullough's left eye has begun to swell precipitously in the last two rounds. This is physical work in there.
00:45:44Yeah, he's got it. He's got it. He's got it. He's got it. Okay. You got it? Okay. You got it? Okay. Give me up. Okay. Okay. All right. Okay. Yeah.
00:45:51It's a little difficult when you lay back. When you lay back, you give him a little time to load up on those shots and get the spots. Okay? Yeah. You need the room. Okay? Get it out. Get it out. Get it out.
00:46:00Close your eye. You got it in my eye. Both of them.
00:46:07Yeah, you need the room, okay, close your eye, you got this in my eye, both of them.
00:46:26You're okay, everything's fine.
00:46:31Go to that liver, go to that liver, go to the top and come back to the liver.
00:46:35These rounds are starting to get closer, and keep in mind, in effect, we're in McCullough's hometown.
00:46:43And in the last round, for the first time in seven rounds, McCullough was able to throw more punches than Zaragoza.
00:46:51Zaragoza slowed his pace, perhaps because of the cut above his hairline and the swelling right off.
00:46:57McCullough doesn't seem bothered too much so far by the swelling in his left eye.
00:47:01You can't see it between rounds as they worked on the bleeding above his brow.
00:47:09Good straight left hand by Daniel Zaragoza.
00:47:11I'm a big fan of Wave of Colors, and I think in any time, he would be coming out of the
00:47:13way of Colors.
00:47:14I'm a big fan of Wave of Colors, and I think in any time, he would be coming out of the
00:47:15way of Colors.
00:47:16I'm a big fan of Wave of Colors, and I think in any time, he would become a great champion.
00:47:41But I don't think he has quite done enough tonight to take the title from this true champion.
00:47:48I know there are many here that would disagree.
00:47:51How big a fan are you of Daniel Zaragoza?
00:47:53Never watched Daniel Zaragoza at all, but he's earned a lot of respect from Roy Jones tonight.
00:47:59He knows how to fight, doesn't he?
00:48:01Very much so.
00:48:02A lot of people can't recognize that because they don't know what a real good fight is.
00:48:06And this guy can fight, honestly.
00:48:10He may not get the decision because of where he is, but in my eyes, he did not lose this
00:48:14fight unless he gets knocked out.
00:48:18He's controlled the guy.
00:48:19He has the guy fighting his fight.
00:48:21There's no way you can take the title from a champion who's in full control all night long.
00:48:25Zaragoza and his manager advisor Rafael Mendoza have a running gag.
00:48:32Before every fight like this, Mendoza advises Zaragoza to retire if he loses.
00:48:37And Zaragoza agrees that he certainly will quit if he loses the fight.
00:48:41Then along about the eighth or ninth round, he announces a new plan for another match somewhere down the road.
00:48:47I'm sure he's probably already announced that new plan tonight.
00:49:02Oh.
00:49:04Another exchange in the middle of the ring dominated by Zaragoza.
00:49:08McCullum bulls Zaragoza into the corner.
00:49:11The crowd looks for McCullum to land something in the way of a big shot.
00:49:14Zaragoza ties him up.
00:49:16But he didn't land anything in the way of a big shot.
00:49:23It's almost a surprise that Zaragoza hasn't cut.
00:49:27He's welted all over.
00:49:29Red marks around his eyes.
00:49:32But he's holding together.
00:49:34And Wayne is not noted for a big punch.
00:49:36And Zaragoza pauses at center ring and appears to pose for Wayne McCullough's wife Cheryl, who's keeping up a running stream of advice to her husband that he can't hear.
00:49:55Don't have it on the control.
00:49:56Don't have it on the control.
00:49:57You're telling me that your eyes are burning, but I don't understand why.
00:50:02Look at your eyes.
00:50:03Give me the, give me the Vaseline.
00:50:05Daniel, give me a class.
00:50:09Daniel, give me the change to the中.
00:50:16Daniel, give me a class.
00:50:17Daniel, don't let him get up.
00:50:19You can get a reaction from that.
00:50:21Okay, .
00:50:22You can't let him get up, because he can have a reaction at the end.
00:50:30Okay, set us up.
00:50:31Yeah.
00:50:32Hit the button.
00:50:33Let's go.
00:50:34Let's go.
00:50:39Getting to be desperation time for Wayne McCullough.
00:50:4311th of a scheduled 12.
00:50:47Zaragoza about to go the 12-round distance in a title fight for the 21st time in his career.
00:50:54Harold, how do you have it after 10 rounds?
00:50:56Larry, eight rounds to two.
00:50:5898-92, Daniel Zaragoza.
00:51:00In my eyes, Wayne McCullough definitely needs a knockout to win this fight, or a TKO.
00:51:04I mean, he can still stop him.
00:51:06Yeah, I think Wayne McCullough half the time keeps that left hand open.
00:51:09He's got applause with it.
00:51:10I wonder if he's closing that glove.
00:51:12I honestly believe that he's trying to cut Daniel Zaragoza with an open glove throw.
00:51:16I have to fight six, three, and one Zaragoza.
00:51:23Hold it, hold it, hold it, hold it.
00:51:24And in the 10th round, Larry, 39-year-old Daniel Zaragoza threw 87 punches and landed 47 of them.
00:51:31And he's not coasting here either in the 11th round.
00:51:35I tell you what, the Wayne is not laying down.
00:51:38Wayne is still giving it 150% out there.
00:51:41He's trying his best to find a way to win this fight.
00:51:45Good hard right hand body shot by McCullough.
00:51:47Backs Zaragoza up.
00:51:49He manages to maneuver Daniel to the ropes again.
00:51:51This is where he's done his most damage on those occasions when he's been able to hurt the Mexicans.
00:51:56Give McCullough an A for effort and gives Zaragoza an A for technicianship as he takes advantage of the Irishman's aggression to land counter shots.
00:52:18They are going to be some sore fighters tomorrow.
00:52:46Oh, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great.
00:53:04Most of the house is standing.
00:53:08And this is why I am a Wayne McCullough fan, right here.
00:53:18This is how he won his silver medal at the Olympics.
00:53:20As he said, as an amateur fighter, I always lost the first round and I always won the last.
00:53:26And I always won the last.
00:53:36If you got your money's worth tonight on Boxing After Dark.
00:53:42And that's just another round.
00:53:44If Wayne McCullough wins the silver medal tonight, he will win it fighting.
00:53:52There's only one round missing.
00:54:04Don't exchange punches with this guy.
00:54:08You have the resources to win this fight.
00:54:12Keep throwing the punches down to the liver.
00:54:18There's a big purse of a half a million dollars.
00:54:21And you and I, you sons, I'm not going to forgive you if you lose this fight.
00:54:26Wake up, man.
00:54:28Give him a lesson.
00:54:29Give him a lesson.
00:54:30Grab this guy.
00:54:33You don't have nothing to demonstrate to this guy.
00:54:40Jab, jab, jab.
00:54:41All over this ring.
00:54:43All over this arena.
00:54:45And I haven't given up on Wayne yet.
00:54:47I won't give up until that last real ring.
00:54:49Blood, guts and glory in Boston.
00:54:52Who gets the prize?
00:54:54As two fighters bleed and battle down the stretch.
00:55:03Alright, alright, alright, alright, alright, alright, alright.
00:55:21Daha't the pressure we've loaded up on the same clock thing again."
00:55:25Zuha Nitros.
00:55:26Aki!
00:55:27Oof!
00:55:28Aki!
00:55:29Aki!
00:55:30Aki!
00:55:31Aki!
00:55:32what Wayne McCullough needs is a 15 round fight very much but I still won't give up on him until
00:55:51the last barrel ring because he's going to give it a hundred to the percent until that barrel ring
00:55:56and left eye is almost completely shut now Roy I don't know if Wayne knows that though
00:56:04look at this folks just look at this
00:56:10we work the lake shifts on boxing after dark 80 seconds to go
00:56:26they didn't leave anything in the locker room they're giving it all to you right here
00:56:54ok black black black black stop punching when I say I'm bright
00:57:03ok black stop punching, stop punching, ok
00:57:15ok
00:57:22ok
00:57:24ok
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00:57:41Yes, unbelievable, unbelievable intensity.
00:57:50I just wish that you all could be here with us.
00:58:11In the 12th round, 39-year-old Daniel Zaragoza threw 119 punches.
00:58:24He had to because Wayne McCullough threw 139.
00:58:30Remarkable.
00:58:41Behold the boxing action and then the reaction of Wayne McCullough's wife, Cheryl, at ringside.
00:58:51McCullough's manager, Matt Tinley, there in the background, a part of the action, too.
00:59:12Harold Letterman, who got the last round.
00:59:24Jim, Wayne McCullough got the last round of my scorecard.
00:59:28I swear to God, I saw the ghost of John L. Sullivan standing and cheering in this place.
00:59:32Unbelievable intensity.
00:59:348-4, 116, 112, Daniel Zaragoza.
00:59:38He just had too big an early lead.
00:59:41Wayne McCullough was great in the 10th and the 11th and the 12th, but you can't take it away from the old man.
00:59:47Thank you. I think that was very well said, Harold Letterman.
00:59:49Thank you very kindly, Mr. White Heavyweight Champion of the World.
00:59:52We're back on the same page now.
00:59:54Wait a minute. He's still the super middleweight champion of the world, too, Harold.
00:59:57I'm sorry. I apologize for both titles, you know.
01:00:02Final punch stat numbers for Daniel Zaragoza and Wayne McCullough.
01:00:05We told you from the beginning, McCullough's fight plan was to outthrow Zaragoza.
01:00:10Well, Zaragoza outthrew him through much of the fight.
01:00:14McCullough rushed past him in the last couple rounds, wound up throwing 1,144 punches, 27 more than Zaragoza.
01:00:20But look at the connect percentage.
01:00:22The superior technicianship of Zaragoza, particularly when they stood out in the center of the ring,
01:00:28and Zaragoza was able consistently to beat McCullough to the punch and then kick him off with counter shots.
01:00:34Very much so. And I think by Zaragoza going out and establishing his offensive game first,
01:00:40he threw the younger fighter off because the younger fighter had never seen anything like this before.
01:00:45Well, earlier this evening, we thought maybe Vincent Phillips would get the decision against Ramalas Ellis.
01:00:50That didn't happen. Harold Letterman was right.
01:00:52He gave that fight to Ellis, and he was right in sync with the judges who gave Ellis a split decision.
01:00:58What happens here?
01:01:01As the judges get ready to score, Daniel Zaragoza, who is always the away team,
01:01:06and emotionally in this arena tonight, Shirley McCullough was the home team.
01:01:11You saw him come in at the beginning with that New England Patriots jersey on.
01:01:16And now let's go up to ring announcer Mark Barrow to see if that ponderous look,
01:01:21or pensive look, I should say, turns into a smile or a frown for Cheryl McCullough.
01:01:34Ladies and gentlemen, we have a split decision.
01:01:38Judge Barbara Parris scores it 115-114, McCullough.
01:01:52Judge Dick Flaherty scores it 116-112, Zaragoza.
01:02:00Judge Chuck has it, scores it 116-112 for the WBC Super Bantamweight Champion of the World,
01:02:15Daniel Zaragoza.
01:02:18Zaragoza.
01:02:30Well, that's a tough loss for Wayne McCullough, but Roy Jones,
01:02:41I don't think that diminishes his image as a fighter one bit.
01:02:45No, not at all.
01:02:46He's still a young fighter.
01:02:47He still can come back.
01:02:48He'll be back, and he'll definitely be a champion.
01:02:50Yeah, when you're that entertaining,
01:02:52and when you do that kind of work against a terrific champion as McCullough did,
01:02:58you deserve a lot of credit, even though I agree with the judges,
01:03:02and I personally felt as though Zaragoza deserved the decision,
01:03:05and I think you think so, too.
01:03:06Yeah, I think so, very much so.
01:03:07I don't think it was that close, but like I said, this kid is a very good kid.
01:03:12He's very good talent.
01:03:13He's a very good person.
01:03:14He'll be back.
01:03:15He showed the heart of a true champion.
01:03:17There's no stopping him now.
01:03:18I think the people involved with him should be very proud.
01:03:21They should hold his head up, and they should let him know that everybody,
01:03:24and he proved to the world tonight that he will be a champion.
01:03:27In a great, great fight with the fourth highest total punch stat count of all time.
01:03:32Now let's go up to Larry Merchant in the ring.
01:03:34All right, thank you, Jim.
01:03:36Daniel, at the end of the fight, you said to your corner,
01:03:40I'm sorry I didn't have it at the end of the fight.
01:03:42You congratulated Wayne for his great conditioning.
01:03:47How do you feel about the fight?
01:03:48He did real well.
01:04:13He put a lot of pressure in the last two rounds, and in my corner, they told me,
01:04:18hey, you've got to put pressure on, but he's a great guy.
01:04:21He's in great condition.
01:04:23But the fight, I was winning this fight.
01:04:25He was robbed!
01:04:27My wrinkle!
01:04:31Excuse me, folks.
01:04:32I'm not used to using any strong-arm tactics to get my interviews in.
01:04:39Would you want to fight him again?
01:04:43Anytime.
01:04:45Anytime.
01:04:46So you're not going to retire after this fight?
01:04:51Maybe.
01:04:52Quizás.
01:04:52Maybe.
01:04:53Maybe.
01:04:53Maybe.
01:04:53Maybe.
01:04:55Another check.
01:04:57He wants one more check.
01:04:59Thank you very much, and thank you for a great fight, Daniel.
01:05:02Hello.
01:05:02Hi.
01:05:03Good man.
01:05:04A good man, he said to you, Wayne, why do you think you weren't just good enough tonight?
01:05:11First of all, I'd like to thank God for getting me through the fight.
01:05:14I'd like to thank Grant for sponsoring me and telling my friends in Vegas and friends in
01:05:18Athens.
01:05:19So I thought I didn't have to win the fight.
01:05:21You thought you ended up winning the late rounds and that would pull you through?
01:05:25Yeah, and the early rounds were close as well.
01:05:27I was scoring two to one punches, and the last two rounds have won them big, and I thought
01:05:33that one, and the trainers were confident they won the fight, and that's boxing, first
01:05:38loss.
01:05:40Well, you won the silver medal tonight, but you won it in good style.
01:05:44What made this old guy so tough?
01:05:47Well, he was, from the ninth round of his time, I was the fitter of the two, and I showed
01:05:52that in the end.
01:05:53He was a strong, durable veteran, but he's not the one that's the fight easy enough.
01:05:59That's just the way it goes.
01:06:01Thank you, Wayne, very much.
01:06:03Jim?
01:06:03All right.
01:06:04Thanks very much.
01:06:05Hey, Marco Antonio Barrera at this weight class took a tough loss about a month and a
01:06:09half ago against Junior Jones.
01:06:11Now McCullough gets a tough loss against the more experienced Daniel Zaragoza.
01:06:14How about Barrera against McCullough?
01:06:16Very good fight.
01:06:17Another very stiff fight.
01:06:18Very good fight.
01:06:19There's still so much talent in this 122-pound weight class with Junior and Kennedy McKinney
01:06:24and Zaragoza, et cetera, et cetera.
01:06:25So much talent.
01:06:27We're going to have a lot of fun for the next year or so in Boxing After Dark as we continue
01:06:30to follow the super bantamweight class.
01:06:33Well, we'll be back into the final moment on what happened in the ring in just a moment.
01:06:37Let's look ahead to some programs on HBO.
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01:08:15Tonight, another terrific night of boxing on Boxing After Dark.
01:08:19Romalis Ellis, a split decision winner, an action-filled bout against Vince Phillips, a man that he's known for a dozen years or more.
01:08:27They almost met as amateurs, finally met tonight.
01:08:29Ellis pulled out a close split decision over Phillips.
01:08:33And then in a total war, 39-year-old Daniel Zaragoza brings his record in 12-round fights to 15 wins, three losses, and three draws with a split decision win over Irishman Wayne McCullough,
01:08:45who got a little bit of a technical lesson but showed his will and courage in the closing rounds.
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01:09:07The executive producer of HBO Sports is Ross Greenberg.
01:09:10Tonight's telecast of Boxing After Dark was produced by Rick Bernstein and directed by Mark Payton.
01:09:16The associate producers were Dave Leapson and Mike Santini.
01:09:19Assistant to the producer, Jonathan Crystal.
01:09:22The production manager, Mark Hayden.
01:09:23And the technical supervisor was Bob Hunter.
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