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DETETIVE AMERICANO COM JOE KENDA - 2025 - OS ASSASSINATOS DO COLONIAL PARKWAY
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00:00:00A CIDADE NO BRASIL
00:00:30Eight young people, all may have died at the hand of the same killer.
00:00:35It's Virginia's oldest and largest serial killing spree.
00:00:39The Colonial Parkway murders.
00:00:44Oh my God, there's somebody that's targeting these kids.
00:00:52A predator was hunting here.
00:00:54The cases involved abandoned cars at notorious lovers' lanes.
00:01:00Selecting targets at random.
00:01:03The cars contained victims' clothing, wallets, and keys with no signs of struggle.
00:01:07And leaving no survivors.
00:01:12It's horrible.
00:01:13Now we're able to say, after all of those years, the perpetrator has finally been identified.
00:01:27Serial killers always have a pause between their events.
00:01:31But as time moves on, the hunger returns.
00:01:34Let me do this again, because God, it was good the first time.
00:01:43I spent my career closing murder cases.
00:01:46But I'm not the only one who answered the call.
00:01:53It takes a rare breed to solve the unsolvable.
00:01:57To catch a ruthless killer.
00:02:00To find justice for the dead.
00:02:02That's what it takes to be an American detective.
00:02:09At about 5.30 in the evening,
00:02:30two park policemen respond to a 911 call
00:02:35reporting an accident on the Colonial Parkway.
00:02:42They are flagged down by an individual.
00:02:47They follow him a short distance to an embankment
00:02:50above the York River, which flows through the park.
00:02:56They see a 1980 white Honda sedan.
00:03:01Nose first in the river.
00:03:05They immediately work their way down
00:03:08to see if there's someone trapped in this car.
00:03:24They find two women in the car
00:03:27with a ghost-like appearance.
00:03:30and their throats have been deeply slashed.
00:03:39This is not an accident.
00:03:41It's a homicide.
00:03:42What you see in front of you
00:03:54is the actual Colonial Parkway.
00:03:57My name is Danny Plott.
00:03:59During the Colonial Parkway murder investigations,
00:04:01I was a special agent with the Virginia State Police.
00:04:04Back when the 1986 murder occurred,
00:04:11the Colonial Parkway was similar,
00:04:14but it wasn't as well maintained.
00:04:19It was a beautiful scenic drive.
00:04:24But in the late 80s, when these murders occurred,
00:04:27it was a pretty dark and spooky place.
00:04:32Plott is an old-time cop.
00:04:38Danny has suffered the slings and arrows like me
00:04:41of the press and the public
00:04:42and the two-bit politicians
00:04:44and so on and so on.
00:04:46So it was a natural thing
00:04:48that he and I became friends.
00:04:50Hey, man.
00:04:51Joe.
00:04:52How are you?
00:04:53Good. Yourself?
00:04:55The same.
00:04:55I'm still walking around.
00:04:57Me and you both.
00:04:58Danny first called me
00:05:00because he liked my show.
00:05:02I watched an episode of Homicide Hunter
00:05:05and Joe's show was wonderful.
00:05:08You know, he would say something
00:05:09and then there'd be the my, my, my.
00:05:11I was impressed.
00:05:12And he let me know that
00:05:14and asked me what it was like
00:05:15to live in Colorado Springs
00:05:17and I informed him I had moved.
00:05:19And he said,
00:05:20I live in Suffolk, Virginia.
00:05:22No shit.
00:05:22He asked if we could meet for lunch.
00:05:25I said, yes.
00:05:30Talking with Joe is an experience in itself.
00:05:32His ability with murders is amazing to me.
00:05:37I talked to him for hours
00:05:39about the Colonial Parkway murders.
00:05:41which I had vaguely heard about
00:05:502,200 miles away in Colorado.
00:05:52They meant nothing to me at the time
00:05:54because they were outside my jurisdiction.
00:05:57But now they interested me.
00:05:59Danny Plott mentioned
00:06:00that there's been an enormous amount of press coverage.
00:06:03There's been a book written about him,
00:06:05all kinds of things.
00:06:06and I did not disagree
00:06:08with his thought process
00:06:09on the entire case.
00:06:12He was certainly on the right track.
00:06:15For 37 years,
00:06:17the killer was unknown.
00:06:19And the Colonial Parkway murders
00:06:20was his torturous career case.
00:06:23Solving the case
00:06:24became an infatuation.
00:06:26It became frustrating.
00:06:28Sometimes we felt like
00:06:29we were really close
00:06:31in finding who did
00:06:33these murders.
00:06:34And then something
00:06:35would knock them out of it.
00:06:38Every stone that you could think of
00:06:40was overturned.
00:06:41Yet, here we were.
00:06:43Nobody was in handcuffs.
00:06:47The Colonial Parkway
00:06:49is a rural, scenic road
00:06:51that connects three
00:06:52of the biggest historical places
00:06:55in the Commonwealth of Virginia.
00:06:59Yorktown all the way to Jamestown
00:07:02and the Williamsburg area.
00:07:06And because it's a federal park,
00:07:08there are no structures,
00:07:09no businesses,
00:07:10no billboards,
00:07:11no marks of the 21st century.
00:07:13There are trees
00:07:14and bushes
00:07:15and vines.
00:07:22So if you're on this stretch
00:07:24at night,
00:07:25you're in a Stephen King novel
00:07:28for 23 miles.
00:07:30The Parkway also has
00:07:32multiple overlooks.
00:07:34You can call it
00:07:35the Lover's Lane.
00:07:36If you wanted privacy,
00:07:38it was the perfect place.
00:07:45The murders started
00:07:47in October of 1986.
00:07:49The park rangers
00:07:56were aghast
00:07:57at what they saw.
00:07:59The park police
00:07:59summoned
00:08:00the Federal Bureau of Investigation,
00:08:02the only jurisdiction
00:08:03within that park
00:08:05because it is federal property.
00:08:06The two girls,
00:08:21they were identified immediately
00:08:23because their identifications
00:08:27were in the car.
00:08:28Kathleen Thomas
00:08:29and Rebecca Dowsky.
00:08:36Their throats
00:08:37had been cut
00:08:38very badly.
00:08:42This was something
00:08:43brutal.
00:08:46What was
00:08:47very puzzling
00:08:49to the FBI,
00:08:50that blood
00:08:50was not in the car.
00:08:51The amount of blood
00:08:56would have been substantial
00:08:57and we've never found
00:08:58any bloody prints,
00:08:59any bloody clothing.
00:09:00Clearly,
00:09:01inside of that car
00:09:02is not the crime scene.
00:09:04Somewhere else,
00:09:05they were killed
00:09:05and put into that car.
00:09:06Was it driven there?
00:09:07I don't know.
00:09:08They examined the ground
00:09:12in this pull-off area
00:09:13assuming they will find
00:09:14a second set
00:09:15of tire tracks.
00:09:16They find tire tracks
00:09:18that match the tires
00:09:19on the Honda,
00:09:21but they find
00:09:21no tire tracks
00:09:22of another vehicle.
00:09:24What was really
00:09:25perplexing was
00:09:27the car was covered
00:09:28in diesel fuel
00:09:29and there were matches
00:09:33around where it appeared
00:09:38that someone had tried
00:09:40to get the diesel fuel
00:09:42to light.
00:09:47Diesel has a very
00:09:48high ignition point.
00:09:50You could light
00:09:51an entire book
00:09:52of matches
00:09:53and throw it
00:09:54into liquid diesel fuel
00:09:56and all that would happen
00:09:58is the diesel fuel
00:09:59would put out the fire.
00:10:00It was a failed attempt
00:10:01at trying to cover up
00:10:03their crime.
00:10:04Now, what does that tell you?
00:10:05Whoever this is
00:10:09has diesel fuel.
00:10:11There's a lot of people
00:10:11that carry diesel fuel
00:10:13in and around
00:10:13in their vehicle.
00:10:15Truckers do,
00:10:16people that have
00:10:16a diesel car,
00:10:17or people with boats.
00:10:19Interesting.
00:10:21This was not
00:10:22an easy case to solve.
00:10:26Why would somebody target
00:10:27two women,
00:10:29there's no money taken,
00:10:30and they're viciously,
00:10:31I mean viciously,
00:10:32attacked?
00:10:33Whoever is responsible
00:10:34for this crime
00:10:35is an organized offender.
00:10:40He has a plan.
00:10:42He somehow
00:10:42gets control
00:10:43of these people
00:10:44and then he attacks
00:10:46and kills both
00:10:47and sends the car
00:10:48over the side
00:10:50of this embankment.
00:10:52You and I both know
00:10:54it's not difficult
00:10:55to push a car.
00:10:56You kick it out of gear
00:10:57and one person
00:10:58can easily move a car.
00:11:00Sure.
00:11:00But remember
00:11:01that it's sitting
00:11:02in an overlook,
00:11:03it's a paved overlook.
00:11:04Then you have
00:11:05a patch of grass
00:11:06and there's a curb,
00:11:09not a high curb,
00:11:10but there's a curb.
00:11:11So someone
00:11:11or some people
00:11:13were strong enough
00:11:14to push it,
00:11:15pop it over that,
00:11:17but with two passengers
00:11:18in it,
00:11:19always felt like
00:11:20it was somebody
00:11:21with some strength.
00:11:22Likely a man
00:11:23could have a helper.
00:11:24Yeah.
00:11:24So now you have
00:11:27a solid view
00:11:28of what this crime scene
00:11:29looks like,
00:11:30but you're not even
00:11:31really sure
00:11:32how it happened.
00:11:33You need an autopsy
00:11:34to tell you more.
00:11:38So the FBI agents
00:11:39head to the Virginia
00:11:40State Medical Examiner's
00:11:42Office.
00:11:51The autopsy results
00:11:52show that the girls
00:11:53had been dead
00:11:54for a minimum
00:11:55of 24 hours.
00:11:59Rebecca's throat
00:12:00was cut
00:12:00and it was cut
00:12:01viciously.
00:12:06But Kathleen
00:12:07was almost
00:12:08decapitated.
00:12:12There's a brutality
00:12:13in that.
00:12:15I think that says
00:12:15that somebody
00:12:16was really angry
00:12:17for whatever reason.
00:12:19There was no evidence
00:12:20of sexual assault
00:12:21on either victim,
00:12:22but they found
00:12:23something else.
00:12:26The autopsy
00:12:27revealed
00:12:27that both girls
00:12:28suffered
00:12:29ligature strangulation.
00:12:32A ligature
00:12:33is any device
00:12:34used to put
00:12:35pressure on the neck
00:12:36to restrict
00:12:36the windpipe
00:12:37to die
00:12:38from asphyxia.
00:12:42And in Kathleen's
00:12:44hair
00:12:44there was
00:12:45a small
00:12:47piece of rope.
00:12:48The autopsy
00:12:50further decides
00:12:51that the throat
00:12:52slashing
00:12:53was accomplished
00:12:53post-mortem
00:12:54and had nothing
00:12:57to do with
00:12:58their death.
00:12:59They were dead
00:12:59when their throats
00:13:00were cut.
00:13:01They were essentially
00:13:02killed twice.
00:13:04Who the hell
00:13:05are we dealing
00:13:06with here?
00:13:14Rebecca and Kathleen
00:13:15were last seen
00:13:16Thursday night.
00:13:19A Honda Civic
00:13:20was found
00:13:20off the Colonial
00:13:21Parkway.
00:13:22It had been rolled
00:13:23into these bushes
00:13:24almost into the water.
00:13:26The women were found
00:13:27with their throats
00:13:27slit.
00:13:30The FBI agents
00:13:31go and notify
00:13:32the two victims'
00:13:33families of their
00:13:34untimely demise
00:13:35and say,
00:13:36tell me about
00:13:36your daughter.
00:13:42My name's
00:13:42Bill Thomas.
00:13:43I'm the older
00:13:44brother of
00:13:45Kathy Thomas.
00:13:47She was fun
00:13:48and smart
00:13:49and a great
00:13:51friend.
00:13:52And her
00:13:53attitude was
00:13:54just so
00:13:55positive
00:13:56that people
00:13:58were drawn
00:13:58to her.
00:14:00She graduated
00:14:01in the second
00:14:01class from
00:14:02the U.S.
00:14:03Naval Academy
00:14:04that had women.
00:14:05had women.
00:14:05She ended up
00:14:08first serving
00:14:09on this ship
00:14:09a submarine tender
00:14:11called the
00:14:12USS L.Y.
00:14:13Spear.
00:14:14Now,
00:14:15it's during
00:14:16this time,
00:14:17though,
00:14:17she's also
00:14:18investigated
00:14:19for being
00:14:20a lesbian.
00:14:22In the 1980s,
00:14:24the Navy
00:14:25remained
00:14:26archaic
00:14:27with draconian
00:14:29rules.
00:14:30homosexuality
00:14:31was not
00:14:31acceptable
00:14:32in any form,
00:14:34particularly so
00:14:35in a female.
00:14:39This was not
00:14:40going to be a
00:14:40place that she
00:14:41could live
00:14:42her life as
00:14:43a lesbian
00:14:44in an open
00:14:45fashion.
00:14:46And she resigned
00:14:47her commission.
00:14:48Even though she
00:14:49had left the Navy
00:14:50with great reluctance,
00:14:51Kathy was actually
00:14:52turning a corner
00:14:53into a really
00:14:54happy,
00:14:56less pressured
00:14:57version of her life.
00:15:00She was dating
00:15:01this wonderful
00:15:01woman,
00:15:02Rebecca Dowski.
00:15:05Rebecca Dowski
00:15:07came from
00:15:07Poughkeepsie,
00:15:08New York.
00:15:08She originally
00:15:09attended
00:15:10Dickinson College
00:15:11and had transferred
00:15:12to the College
00:15:13of William and Mary
00:15:14in Virginia.
00:15:16She was a very
00:15:16bright student
00:15:17and she really
00:15:18fit in well
00:15:20there.
00:15:21She was in her
00:15:22senior year
00:15:23sweet,
00:15:24smart,
00:15:25extremely athletic.
00:15:26She was on
00:15:27a championship
00:15:27women's softball
00:15:29team.
00:15:30So both Kathy
00:15:31and Becky
00:15:32had this
00:15:33I can accomplish
00:15:34anything
00:15:35attitude.
00:15:36Kathy and her
00:15:37girlfriend
00:15:38were not accepted
00:15:39by society
00:15:40at large.
00:15:40Privacy
00:15:41was very
00:15:42important to
00:15:43them.
00:15:43What better
00:15:44place
00:15:44than the
00:15:46colonial
00:15:46parkway
00:15:47at night?
00:15:57The FBI
00:15:59investigators
00:16:00focused on
00:16:01Kathy being
00:16:01in a lesbian
00:16:02relationship
00:16:03with Becky.
00:16:05Now,
00:16:05what really
00:16:06makes that
00:16:06come into play
00:16:07is she had
00:16:08been dating
00:16:09someone else.
00:16:10there were
00:16:16all of these
00:16:16rumors that
00:16:17one of Rebecca's
00:16:18ex-lovers
00:16:18had gotten
00:16:19angry and
00:16:19retaliated
00:16:20against the
00:16:21both of
00:16:21them.
00:16:23He was
00:16:24Muslim.
00:16:24The Muslim
00:16:25religion does
00:16:26not always
00:16:27look at
00:16:28gay or
00:16:29lesbian
00:16:29relationships
00:16:30kindly.
00:16:33Ex-boyfriend
00:16:34Sharif Ali
00:16:36realizes that
00:16:37Becky has
00:16:38left him
00:16:39for another
00:16:39woman.
00:16:43He is
00:16:44furious.
00:16:45He has
00:16:45very strong
00:16:46feelings about
00:16:47homosexual behavior
00:16:48and now he's
00:16:49been passed
00:16:49over for a
00:16:51member of the
00:16:52same sex
00:16:52by his
00:16:53girlfriend.
00:16:54It makes
00:16:54him an
00:16:54astounding
00:16:55suspect.
00:16:56So they
00:17:02bring Ali
00:17:03Sharif in
00:17:04for
00:17:04questioning
00:17:04and he
00:17:09admits
00:17:10that he
00:17:13has been
00:17:13embarrassed
00:17:14by her
00:17:14departure
00:17:15for another
00:17:16female
00:17:16but he
00:17:17would never
00:17:18do her
00:17:18harm.
00:17:19He also
00:17:23has an
00:17:23alibi.
00:17:24He was
00:17:24in
00:17:24Washington
00:17:25D.C.
00:17:25for the
00:17:26weekend
00:17:26200 miles
00:17:28away
00:17:28during the
00:17:28time of
00:17:29the
00:17:29killings.
00:17:33He may
00:17:34have had
00:17:34a motive
00:17:34but he
00:17:35physically
00:17:35couldn't
00:17:36have done
00:17:36it.
00:17:39Over
00:17:39the next
00:17:40few
00:17:40weeks
00:17:40the
00:17:42investigation
00:17:43slows
00:17:43but the
00:17:44notoriety
00:17:45of the
00:17:45case
00:17:45really
00:17:46starts
00:17:47to move.
00:17:47The
00:17:48two
00:17:48friends
00:17:49were
00:17:49last
00:17:49seen
00:17:49together
00:17:50in
00:17:50Dowski's
00:17:50dorm
00:17:51room
00:17:51at
00:17:517 p.m.
00:17:52Police
00:17:52sources
00:17:53think
00:17:53Dowski
00:17:53and
00:17:54Thomas
00:17:54then
00:17:55drove
00:17:55here
00:17:55to
00:17:56the
00:17:56Colonial
00:17:56Parkway.
00:17:57I
00:17:57remember
00:17:58the
00:17:58ratings
00:17:58were
00:17:58extremely
00:17:59high.
00:18:00People
00:18:00were
00:18:00watching.
00:18:01They
00:18:01were
00:18:01talking
00:18:02about
00:18:02the
00:18:02romantic
00:18:03relationship
00:18:03between
00:18:04the
00:18:04two.
00:18:04One
00:18:04of
00:18:05the
00:18:05motives
00:18:05for
00:18:05a
00:18:05killer
00:18:06is
00:18:06someone
00:18:06that
00:18:07is
00:18:07opposed
00:18:08to
00:18:08this
00:18:08type
00:18:09of
00:18:09lifestyle.
00:18:10Friends
00:18:11say
00:18:11driving
00:18:11along
00:18:12the
00:18:12Colonial
00:18:17October
00:18:189th
00:18:18wasn't
00:18:19routine.
00:18:19It
00:18:20was
00:18:20murder.
00:18:21I
00:18:21don't
00:18:21think
00:18:21we
00:18:21understood
00:18:22the
00:18:22full
00:18:23gravity
00:18:23of
00:18:24what
00:18:24happened
00:18:24out
00:18:25there
00:18:25in
00:18:25October
00:18:26of
00:18:2786
00:18:27until
00:18:29September
00:18:29of
00:18:3087.
00:18:31Then
00:18:31I
00:18:31think
00:18:32it
00:18:32took
00:18:32on
00:18:32a
00:18:33different
00:18:33life
00:18:34of
00:18:34its
00:18:34own.
00:18:47an
00:18:50olive
00:18:50white
00:18:51sheriff's
00:18:51deputy
00:18:51is
00:18:52out
00:18:52patrolling
00:18:53the
00:18:53ragged
00:18:53island
00:18:54wildlife
00:18:54management
00:18:55area.
00:19:01There
00:19:02is
00:19:02a
00:19:02black
00:19:02pickup
00:19:03truck.
00:19:05The
00:19:06door
00:19:06is
00:19:06open
00:19:06and
00:19:08no
00:19:08one
00:19:08is
00:19:08around.
00:19:10Something
00:19:10was
00:19:10going
00:19:11on.
00:19:12The
00:19:13truck
00:19:13was
00:19:13running,
00:19:14the
00:19:14radio
00:19:15was
00:19:15on,
00:19:16and
00:19:16there
00:19:16were
00:19:16shoes
00:19:17and
00:19:17articles
00:19:18of
00:19:18clothing
00:19:19in
00:19:19the
00:19:19truck.
00:19:23He
00:19:23calls
00:19:24for
00:19:24assistance.
00:19:27They
00:19:28go
00:19:28through
00:19:29the
00:19:29truck
00:19:30and
00:19:30they
00:19:30notice
00:19:31a
00:19:31wallet
00:19:31on
00:19:33top
00:19:33of
00:19:33the
00:19:33dashboard.
00:19:34It
00:19:34contains
00:19:35a
00:19:35driver's
00:19:35license.
00:19:38It
00:19:38was
00:19:38a
00:19:38gentleman
00:19:38named
00:19:39David
00:19:39Noblin.
00:19:41David
00:19:41Noblin
00:19:42was 19
00:19:43years old.
00:19:43He
00:19:44was a
00:19:44resident
00:19:44of
00:19:45Newport
00:19:45News.
00:19:46His
00:19:46mother
00:19:47has
00:19:47already
00:19:48reported
00:19:48him
00:19:48missing
00:19:49because
00:19:49he
00:19:50didn't
00:19:50return
00:19:50home
00:19:51after
00:19:52an
00:19:52evening
00:19:52out.
00:19:53The
00:19:54last
00:19:54time
00:19:55he
00:19:55was
00:19:55seen
00:19:55was
00:19:56in
00:19:56the
00:19:56company
00:19:56of
00:19:57a
00:19:57young
00:19:57lady
00:19:58named
00:19:58Robin
00:19:59Edwards.
00:20:01Robin
00:20:02was
00:20:02also
00:20:03a
00:20:03Newport
00:20:03News
00:20:04resident
00:20:04and
00:20:05she
00:20:05was
00:20:0614
00:20:06years
00:20:07old
00:20:07and
00:20:09was
00:20:09also
00:20:10missing.
00:20:10now
00:20:16everyone
00:20:16is
00:20:17alarmed.
00:20:17So
00:20:18where
00:20:18are
00:20:18the
00:20:18occupants
00:20:19of
00:20:19this
00:20:20vehicle
00:20:20and
00:20:21what
00:20:21has
00:20:21happened
00:20:21to
00:20:22them?
00:20:24Ragged
00:20:24Island
00:20:24is a
00:20:25creepy
00:20:25place
00:20:26to
00:20:26go.
00:20:28It's
00:20:29very
00:20:29secluded.
00:20:31This
00:20:31parking
00:20:33lot
00:20:33was
00:20:33used
00:20:34as
00:20:35a
00:20:35lover's
00:20:36lane
00:20:36type
00:20:36area.
00:20:37It
00:20:37sounds
00:20:37a lot
00:20:37like
00:20:38Colonial
00:20:38Parkway.
00:20:39They
00:20:39had a
00:20:40feeling
00:20:40this
00:20:40wasn't
00:20:41going
00:20:41to
00:20:41end
00:20:41well
00:20:42and
00:20:42they
00:20:42were
00:20:43right.
00:20:4920-year-old
00:20:50David
00:20:51Knobling
00:20:51and
00:20:5114-year-old
00:20:53Robin
00:20:53Edwards
00:20:53were
00:20:54last
00:20:54seen
00:20:54Saturday
00:20:55night.
00:20:56His
00:20:57truck
00:20:57was
00:20:57found
00:20:58with
00:20:58the
00:20:58keys
00:20:58in
00:20:59the
00:20:59ignition
00:20:59door
00:21:00open
00:21:00and
00:21:00radio
00:21:01on
00:21:01near
00:21:02the
00:21:02James
00:21:02River
00:21:02Bridge.
00:21:06The
00:21:06Alley
00:21:07White
00:21:07Sheriff's
00:21:07Department
00:21:07launches
00:21:08a
00:21:08massive
00:21:09search.
00:21:13It's
00:21:13very
00:21:14difficult
00:21:14to
00:21:14search.
00:21:15There
00:21:15are
00:21:15vines
00:21:16and
00:21:16weeds
00:21:17and
00:21:17brush
00:21:18of all
00:21:19sorts.
00:21:19They
00:21:20could
00:21:20be
00:21:20almost
00:21:21anywhere.
00:21:24Personnel
00:21:25from
00:21:25multiple
00:21:26agencies,
00:21:27a
00:21:27helicopter,
00:21:29search
00:21:29dogs.
00:21:30This
00:21:30search
00:21:31goes
00:21:31on
00:21:31for
00:21:32days.
00:21:32And
00:21:33unfortunately
00:21:33on the
00:21:34third
00:21:34day,
00:21:35they
00:21:38found
00:21:38something.
00:21:40My
00:21:40dad
00:21:40was
00:21:40out
00:21:41there
00:21:41at
00:21:41Ragged
00:21:41Island,
00:21:43chest
00:21:43waiters
00:21:43walking
00:21:44that
00:21:45whole
00:21:45area
00:21:45looking
00:21:46for
00:21:46them.
00:21:46Carl
00:21:47Knobling,
00:21:47God
00:21:48bless
00:21:48him.
00:21:50There
00:21:50were
00:21:50people
00:21:50that
00:21:51were
00:21:51telling
00:21:51Carl
00:21:51Knobling
00:21:52not to
00:21:52go down
00:21:53the
00:21:53beach
00:21:53and
00:21:53said,
00:21:53you
00:21:54aren't
00:21:55going
00:21:55to
00:21:55stop
00:21:55me.
00:21:56I'm
00:21:56going
00:21:56down
00:21:56there.
00:21:59David
00:21:59Knobling's
00:22:00father,
00:22:00Carl
00:22:00Knobling,
00:22:01found
00:22:02the
00:22:02bodies.
00:22:05I
00:22:11can
00:22:11only
00:22:11imagine
00:22:12what
00:22:13that's
00:22:13like
00:22:13because
00:22:14they
00:22:15were
00:22:15not
00:22:15in
00:22:15very
00:22:15good
00:22:16shape.
00:22:17Oh,
00:22:17he
00:22:17was
00:22:17broken
00:22:17hearted,
00:22:18broken
00:22:19hearted,
00:22:19and we
00:22:20were
00:22:20out
00:22:20there
00:22:20with
00:22:21him.
00:22:28It
00:22:29was
00:22:29so
00:22:30devastating.
00:22:31Carl
00:22:31Knobling was
00:22:32a
00:22:32broken
00:22:32man.
00:22:33Yeah,
00:22:34my dad
00:22:34didn't
00:22:34even
00:22:34have
00:22:35a
00:22:35chance
00:22:35to
00:22:35call
00:22:35us
00:22:35and
00:22:35give
00:22:36us
00:22:36a
00:22:36heads
00:22:36up.
00:22:36My
00:22:36mom
00:22:37and
00:22:37I
00:22:37we
00:22:42found
00:22:42out
00:22:42on
00:22:43the
00:22:43news.
00:22:45I
00:22:46remember
00:22:46hearing
00:22:46my mom
00:22:47scream.
00:22:49Oh,
00:22:49my God.
00:22:55It was
00:22:55horrible.
00:22:56The
00:22:58bodies
00:22:58were
00:22:58found
00:22:59further
00:23:00down
00:23:01on
00:23:01the
00:23:01riverbank
00:23:02itself.
00:23:07The
00:23:08James
00:23:08River
00:23:09there
00:23:09is
00:23:09brackish
00:23:10or
00:23:10brine.
00:23:11It's
00:23:11not
00:23:11freshwater.
00:23:12It's
00:23:12not
00:23:12saltwater.
00:23:13It's
00:23:14a
00:23:14combination.
00:23:15And
00:23:15that
00:23:16did
00:23:17not
00:23:18do
00:23:18good
00:23:18things
00:23:18to
00:23:19human
00:23:19bodies.
00:23:19Both
00:23:20bodies
00:23:21are
00:23:21bloated
00:23:21from
00:23:22decomposition
00:23:22having
00:23:23been
00:23:23out
00:23:24for
00:23:24three
00:23:24or
00:23:24four
00:23:24days.
00:23:27Robin
00:23:28Edwards
00:23:28had
00:23:29one
00:23:29gunshot
00:23:30wound
00:23:30execution
00:23:32style
00:23:32to the
00:23:33back
00:23:33of her
00:23:34head.
00:23:36David
00:23:37had
00:23:37two
00:23:38gunshot
00:23:38wounds.
00:23:39A
00:23:40gunshot
00:23:40wound
00:23:41to the
00:23:41left
00:23:41shoulder
00:23:42and
00:23:44one
00:23:44shot
00:23:45to the
00:23:45back
00:23:45of
00:23:46the
00:23:46head.
00:23:46I
00:23:47think
00:23:47Robin
00:23:47was
00:23:48shot
00:23:48first.
00:23:49I
00:23:51think
00:23:51David
00:23:52knew
00:23:52he
00:23:53had
00:23:53one
00:23:53chance.
00:23:56We
00:23:56speculate
00:23:57he
00:23:57tried
00:23:58to
00:23:58climb
00:23:58a
00:23:59sandy
00:23:59clay
00:23:59bank
00:24:00and
00:24:01he
00:24:01was
00:24:01within
00:24:02almost
00:24:03grabbing
00:24:03distance
00:24:04of a
00:24:05tree
00:24:05line.
00:24:08That's
00:24:09where he
00:24:10was shot
00:24:10once in
00:24:11the
00:24:11shoulder
00:24:11that
00:24:11incapacitated
00:24:13enough
00:24:13to
00:24:13wear.
00:24:19he
00:24:20was
00:24:20shot
00:24:21in
00:24:21the
00:24:21back
00:24:21of
00:24:21the
00:24:21head
00:24:22and
00:24:22killed.
00:24:24I
00:24:25totally
00:24:25disagree
00:24:25with
00:24:26that.
00:24:26He
00:24:26would
00:24:26definitely
00:24:27not
00:24:27run
00:24:27from
00:24:28a
00:24:28fight.
00:24:28Even
00:24:28if
00:24:28the
00:24:28guy
00:24:28had
00:24:29a
00:24:29gun
00:24:29he
00:24:29wouldn't
00:24:29run
00:24:30from
00:24:30it.
00:24:34So
00:24:34why
00:24:34are
00:24:34these
00:24:35bodies
00:24:35such
00:24:36a
00:24:36long
00:24:36walk
00:24:37from
00:24:37where
00:24:37the
00:24:38truck
00:24:38was
00:24:38located?
00:24:39Why
00:24:39would
00:24:40they
00:24:40go
00:24:40such
00:24:40a
00:24:40far
00:24:41distance
00:24:41from
00:24:41this
00:24:42vehicle?
00:24:42When you
00:24:45leave that
00:24:45parking lot
00:24:46and you
00:24:46want to
00:24:46go down
00:24:47here
00:24:47you have
00:24:47to walk
00:24:48down
00:24:48this
00:24:49boardwalk
00:24:49because
00:24:49all
00:24:50this
00:24:50is
00:24:50marshland
00:24:51like
00:24:51swamp.
00:24:53So
00:24:53to
00:24:53get
00:24:53down
00:24:53to
00:24:54here
00:24:54good
00:24:54little
00:24:54walk
00:24:55but
00:24:55you
00:24:56don't
00:24:56walk
00:24:56down
00:24:56a
00:24:57wooden
00:24:57older
00:24:58boardwalk
00:24:59barefoot.
00:25:00Not
00:25:00willingly.
00:25:01No
00:25:02not
00:25:02willingly.
00:25:03So
00:25:03how
00:25:03did
00:25:03they
00:25:03end
00:25:04up
00:25:04down
00:25:04there?
00:25:05Two
00:25:05possibilities
00:25:05in my
00:25:06opinion.
00:25:06They're
00:25:06running
00:25:07from
00:25:07somebody
00:25:08barefoot
00:25:09because
00:25:10they don't
00:25:10have
00:25:10time to
00:25:10put
00:25:11their
00:25:11shoes
00:25:11on
00:25:12or
00:25:13they're
00:25:13marched
00:25:14down
00:25:14there
00:25:15by
00:25:15the
00:25:15perpetrator.
00:25:17So
00:25:17who
00:25:17would
00:25:17want
00:25:18to
00:25:18murder
00:25:18these
00:25:19two
00:25:19people
00:25:19in
00:25:19cold
00:25:20blood?
00:25:20Investigators
00:25:21go to
00:25:21the
00:25:21families
00:25:22to see
00:25:22if
00:25:22they
00:25:22can
00:25:23determine
00:25:23suspects.
00:25:25This
00:25:25is
00:25:25the way
00:25:26I see
00:25:26my
00:25:26brother.
00:25:27Like
00:25:27this
00:25:27one.
00:25:29Just
00:25:30him
00:25:30lay
00:25:30back
00:25:30cutting
00:25:31up
00:25:31having
00:25:31fun
00:25:32smiling
00:25:32you
00:25:33know?
00:25:35I
00:25:35definitely
00:25:35looked
00:25:36up
00:25:36to
00:25:36David.
00:25:36He
00:25:36tried
00:25:37toughening
00:25:38me
00:25:38up
00:25:38and
00:25:39he
00:25:39did
00:25:39it
00:25:39with
00:25:41a lot.
00:25:42He
00:25:43was
00:25:43a
00:25:43great
00:25:43brother.
00:25:45I
00:25:46met
00:25:46Robin
00:25:46through
00:25:47my
00:25:47cousin
00:25:47Jason.
00:25:48We
00:25:48went
00:25:48to
00:25:48the
00:25:48same
00:25:49school
00:25:49together.
00:25:50She
00:25:50was
00:25:50always
00:25:50a
00:25:50real
00:25:50cool
00:25:51person.
00:25:53We
00:25:53had
00:25:53sort
00:25:54of
00:25:54prepared
00:25:55ourselves
00:25:56for them
00:25:56to find
00:25:57her
00:25:57either
00:25:58hurt
00:25:59or possibly
00:26:00drowned.
00:26:02We
00:26:03were not
00:26:03prepared
00:26:04to find
00:26:05her
00:26:05murdered.
00:26:07Robin
00:26:08was
00:26:08the youngest
00:26:09of the
00:26:09Colonial
00:26:10Parkway
00:26:10murder
00:26:11victims.
00:26:12She
00:26:12was
00:26:1214.
00:26:14She
00:26:15had
00:26:15been
00:26:16through
00:26:16a lot
00:26:17in life.
00:26:17She
00:26:17was
00:26:18the
00:26:18kind
00:26:18of
00:26:18girl
00:26:18that
00:26:19often
00:26:19ran
00:26:20away.
00:26:21She
00:26:21got
00:26:21into
00:26:21trouble.
00:26:22She
00:26:23could
00:26:23be
00:26:23very,
00:26:24very
00:26:24sweet
00:26:24and
00:26:25she
00:26:25could
00:26:25be
00:26:25the
00:26:25most
00:26:25aggravating
00:26:26and
00:26:26irritating
00:26:27child
00:26:28in the
00:26:28world.
00:26:30She
00:26:31was
00:26:31very
00:26:31independent.
00:26:35But
00:26:36Robin
00:26:36was also
00:26:36at a
00:26:37turning
00:26:37point
00:26:37in her
00:26:38life.
00:26:38she
00:26:38was
00:26:39finally
00:26:39starting
00:26:40to
00:26:40apply
00:26:40herself
00:26:41to
00:26:41her
00:26:41classes.
00:26:42She
00:26:42was
00:26:43starting
00:26:43to
00:26:43turn
00:26:44things
00:26:44around.
00:26:46The
00:26:47big
00:26:47questions
00:26:47unanswered
00:26:48are,
00:26:49why
00:26:49was
00:26:49David
00:26:49with
00:26:50Robin
00:26:50at the
00:26:50wildlife
00:26:51preserve?
00:26:52And
00:26:52what
00:26:52happened
00:26:53after
00:26:53they
00:26:53got
00:26:54there?
00:26:59That
00:26:59day,
00:27:00I
00:27:00followed him
00:27:00out,
00:27:01bummed a
00:27:01cigarette
00:27:01from him,
00:27:02and we
00:27:03talked in
00:27:03the
00:27:03driveway
00:27:04for
00:27:0415,
00:27:0520
00:27:06minutes,
00:27:06I guess,
00:27:07and then
00:27:07he left.
00:27:08I carried
00:27:09that through
00:27:10my life,
00:27:10that I was
00:27:11able to
00:27:11say bye
00:27:12to him.
00:27:13I don't
00:27:14know why.
00:27:15It just
00:27:15seems so
00:27:16small now,
00:27:16but at
00:27:18the time
00:27:18it was
00:27:18big.
00:27:22So they
00:27:22learned that
00:27:23David and
00:27:24Robin were
00:27:24hanging out
00:27:25at an
00:27:25arcade in
00:27:26the area
00:27:26with their
00:27:27friends,
00:27:28and David
00:27:30agreed to
00:27:30take Robin
00:27:31home.
00:27:33They
00:27:33are not
00:27:34a couple,
00:27:35according to
00:27:36the family,
00:27:38but what
00:27:38does the
00:27:38killer see?
00:27:40A man
00:27:40and a
00:27:40woman,
00:27:41and what
00:27:42would he
00:27:42assume
00:27:43from that?
00:27:44They
00:27:44are lovers,
00:27:45in lover's
00:27:46land,
00:27:46as were
00:27:47the first
00:27:47two women.
00:27:48Much of
00:27:48this is
00:27:49very
00:27:49familiar.
00:27:51The
00:27:51murders
00:27:51are the
00:27:52ultimate
00:27:52mystery.
00:27:53Where
00:27:53were
00:27:54they
00:27:54killed?
00:27:54By
00:27:55whom?
00:27:55And
00:27:56with
00:27:56what
00:27:56motive?
00:27:57Were
00:27:57they
00:27:57killed
00:27:57deliberately
00:27:58or
00:27:58by
00:27:59chance?
00:28:00Questions
00:28:00which,
00:28:01as of
00:28:01now,
00:28:02have no
00:28:02answers.
00:28:03That drove
00:28:04those of
00:28:05us that
00:28:05worked on
00:28:06the task
00:28:06force that
00:28:08we need
00:28:08to find
00:28:09this person
00:28:10because
00:28:11they're just
00:28:13heartless
00:28:14and brutal.
00:28:20When David
00:28:21and Robin
00:28:22were
00:28:22autopsied,
00:28:23the investigation
00:28:24revealed that
00:28:25Robin had
00:28:26been sodomized
00:28:27and there
00:28:27was still
00:28:28semen in
00:28:29her cavity.
00:28:31the
00:28:32medical
00:28:32examiner
00:28:33said
00:28:33this
00:28:34sample
00:28:34is
00:28:35very
00:28:35degraded
00:28:36because
00:28:36you
00:28:37had
00:28:37bodies
00:28:38laying
00:28:38in
00:28:38the
00:28:39water
00:28:39for
00:28:39three
00:28:40days.
00:28:42This
00:28:42is
00:28:421987.
00:28:44DNA
00:28:44is in
00:28:45its
00:28:45infancy.
00:28:48DNA
00:28:49databases
00:28:50were
00:28:50either
00:28:51non-existent
00:28:52or
00:28:52just
00:28:53started
00:28:53but
00:28:54the
00:28:54sample
00:28:54was
00:28:55preserved.
00:28:55so
00:28:59now
00:29:00what?
00:29:06There's a
00:29:07possibility
00:29:08the motive
00:29:08is sexual
00:29:09assault
00:29:09of the
00:29:10female
00:29:10victim
00:29:10but it's
00:29:11only a
00:29:12possibility
00:29:12but why
00:29:13kill them?
00:29:14There's no
00:29:15answer for
00:29:16that.
00:29:16despite the
00:29:21differences
00:29:21the
00:29:22similarities
00:29:22are
00:29:23just
00:29:23too
00:29:23great.
00:29:24Proximity
00:29:25darkness
00:29:27area
00:29:28type
00:29:28people
00:29:29don't get
00:29:29killed
00:29:30in parked
00:29:30cars
00:29:31very often.
00:29:31The odds
00:29:32are great.
00:29:33This is the
00:29:33same
00:29:34person or
00:29:35persons
00:29:36responsible
00:29:36for both.
00:29:37you've got
00:29:38a hunter
00:29:39somebody
00:29:39who's
00:29:40busy
00:29:40a year
00:29:41later
00:29:42the appetite
00:29:42returns
00:29:43they haven't
00:29:45been arrested
00:29:46they probably
00:29:46haven't even
00:29:47been talked
00:29:47to.
00:29:48No
00:29:48they haven't
00:29:48been found
00:29:49so now
00:29:50they become
00:29:50convinced
00:29:51that maybe
00:29:51they're
00:29:51pretty clever
00:29:52let me
00:29:53do this
00:29:54again
00:29:54because
00:29:55God
00:29:55it was
00:29:56good
00:29:56the first
00:29:56time
00:29:57but I'm
00:29:58not going
00:29:58to do
00:29:59it
00:29:59where I
00:29:59did
00:29:59it
00:30:00before
00:30:00no
00:30:00but still
00:30:02in the
00:30:02general
00:30:03vicinity
00:30:03they kill
00:30:04where it's
00:30:04convenient
00:30:05places
00:30:05they know
00:30:06and I
00:30:07would be
00:30:07very
00:30:07worried
00:30:08that the
00:30:08bodies
00:30:09were going
00:30:09to start
00:30:09to pile
00:30:10up here
00:30:10four dead
00:30:13and there's
00:30:13going to be
00:30:13more dead
00:30:14if that
00:30:14theory is
00:30:15correct
00:30:15he's going
00:30:16to do it
00:30:17again
00:30:17he will
00:30:18continue
00:30:18unless he
00:30:19is stopped
00:30:20these murders
00:30:26came to be
00:30:26known as a
00:30:27colonial
00:30:28parkway
00:30:28murders
00:30:29police
00:30:29sources
00:30:30claim that
00:30:30two cases
00:30:31are so
00:30:32alike
00:30:32the same
00:30:33persons
00:30:33may be
00:30:34responsible
00:30:35this story
00:30:37really picked
00:30:38up from
00:30:38the very
00:30:38beginning
00:30:39it was
00:30:40very much
00:30:40an east
00:30:41coast
00:30:41highlighted
00:30:42story
00:30:43because
00:30:43double
00:30:44murders
00:30:44were
00:30:45incredibly
00:30:46rare
00:30:46these young
00:30:47couples
00:30:47are violently
00:30:48dead
00:30:49in an
00:30:50otherwise
00:30:51picturesque
00:30:52place
00:30:52how could
00:30:53this be
00:30:53everyone
00:30:54was talking
00:30:55about whether
00:30:55this is the
00:30:56work of a
00:30:56serial killer
00:30:57once the
00:31:00police realized
00:31:00oh my god
00:31:01we're dealing
00:31:02with connected
00:31:02crimes
00:31:03or potentially
00:31:04connected crimes
00:31:05police presence
00:31:05on the parkway
00:31:06increased
00:31:06dramatically
00:31:07that was the
00:31:10first time
00:31:11we heard about
00:31:12the possibility
00:31:13of a serial
00:31:14killer
00:31:14or a pattern
00:31:16emerging
00:31:17and
00:31:18i felt the
00:31:19investigation
00:31:20began to
00:31:21shift
00:31:21it turned
00:31:22this area
00:31:23upside down
00:31:23i mean
00:31:24people were
00:31:25scared to
00:31:25go up and
00:31:26down the
00:31:26parkways
00:31:27and my
00:31:28mom was
00:31:28scared to
00:31:29death
00:31:30when i went
00:31:30out
00:31:30scared to
00:31:31death
00:31:32everyone
00:31:33is very
00:31:34busy now
00:31:35looking for
00:31:35people who
00:31:36seem to be
00:31:37out of the
00:31:38area seem
00:31:39to be doing
00:31:39something that
00:31:40doesn't look
00:31:41right
00:31:41after the
00:31:43murders people
00:31:44realized they
00:31:45may be going
00:31:46to the
00:31:46colonial parkway
00:31:47at their own
00:31:48risk but it
00:31:48didn't stop
00:31:49them
00:31:49sure the last
00:31:52thing they
00:31:52thought of is
00:31:53that they
00:31:54would get
00:31:54approached or
00:31:55grabbed on
00:31:56the colonial
00:31:57parkway
00:31:58it scared a
00:31:59lot of
00:31:59people but
00:31:59unfortunately
00:32:00it didn't
00:32:01scare them
00:32:01all
00:32:01the families
00:32:03held a
00:32:04vigil a
00:32:04memorial to
00:32:05remind us
00:32:06all the
00:32:06killer is
00:32:07still out
00:32:07there
00:32:08the pressure
00:32:11exerted by
00:32:12the press
00:32:13and by the
00:32:14public results
00:32:15in the
00:32:15formation of
00:32:17a colonial
00:32:17parkway
00:32:18murders
00:32:19task force
00:32:20where agencies
00:32:21come together
00:32:22more heads
00:32:23are better
00:32:23than one
00:32:24danny plot
00:32:25was a
00:32:25trained and
00:32:26experienced
00:32:27homicide agent
00:32:28plot became
00:32:29in command
00:32:30we were
00:32:31given a
00:32:31conference room
00:32:32and told to
00:32:33have at it
00:32:34the common
00:32:39theory at the
00:32:40time is that
00:32:41the perpetrator
00:32:41is driving
00:32:42around the
00:32:43colonial parkway
00:32:44area looking for
00:32:45victims parked
00:32:46in a car
00:32:47alone in the
00:32:48dark in a
00:32:49lover's lane
00:32:50kind of area
00:32:51one thing we
00:32:56tried we took
00:32:57a male agent
00:32:58and a female
00:32:58agent and we
00:32:59put them in
00:33:00cars
00:33:00different nights
00:33:03different times
00:33:04and waited
00:33:05to be
00:33:06approached
00:33:07I worked some
00:33:10surveillance
00:33:11I had a beard
00:33:13I had actual
00:33:15hair
00:33:15I was lucky
00:33:17enough to know
00:33:18who I was
00:33:19with but you
00:33:20run out of
00:33:21things to talk
00:33:21about after a
00:33:22couple hours
00:33:23surveillance is
00:33:25cool in the
00:33:26movies it is
00:33:27far from it
00:33:28in real life
00:33:29we were
00:33:40approached
00:33:41but all we
00:33:50did was I
00:33:51think scare
00:33:52the living
00:33:53daylights out
00:33:54of somebody
00:33:54that just was
00:33:55hoping they
00:33:55could see
00:33:56naked flesh
00:33:57somebody that
00:33:59just kind of
00:33:59hung around
00:34:00and tried
00:34:00to look in
00:34:01nobody wished
00:34:05any more
00:34:06for an arrest
00:34:06than those
00:34:07of us
00:34:07that were
00:34:08on that
00:34:08task force
00:34:09your killer
00:34:10is a shadow
00:34:11in the night
00:34:11you're pedaling
00:34:12a bike
00:34:13that is
00:34:13stationary
00:34:14and no matter
00:34:15how hard
00:34:16you pedal
00:34:17it goes
00:34:18nowhere
00:34:19the task force
00:34:22established
00:34:23tip lines
00:34:23and you get
00:34:28hit with
00:34:28tons of
00:34:29tips that
00:34:29are just
00:34:30crazy
00:34:30many people
00:34:32will call
00:34:32in and report
00:34:33that little
00:34:33green men
00:34:34from mars
00:34:34are responsible
00:34:35for this
00:34:36but every
00:34:43once in a while
00:34:44somebody says
00:34:45something that
00:34:46sounds reasonable
00:34:47and you pay
00:34:48attention to
00:34:48that
00:34:49there was a man
00:34:53named
00:34:53sammy rider
00:34:54that said
00:34:55he saw
00:34:56robin and david
00:34:57maybe here's a lead
00:35:00we can work with
00:35:01sam reader
00:35:02was at ragged island
00:35:03and remember
00:35:03seeing david's truck
00:35:05i just took
00:35:05one quick look
00:35:06around
00:35:06i flashed my
00:35:07headlights back
00:35:08in the brush
00:35:08but i couldn't
00:35:09see anything
00:35:09he paints himself
00:35:11as an eyewitness
00:35:12they bring sammy
00:35:18reader in
00:35:19they talk to him
00:35:20so mr reader says
00:35:25that he stops
00:35:26at ragged island
00:35:27on his way home
00:35:28from a date
00:35:29he notices
00:35:35this truck
00:35:36he said
00:35:39that he saw
00:35:39robin and david
00:35:41get out of the car
00:35:42he admires
00:35:45the truck
00:35:45says it's very nice
00:35:46very clean
00:35:48the truck
00:35:49was running
00:35:50the radio
00:35:51was on
00:35:51so he says
00:35:55all these things
00:35:56none of which
00:35:57is earth shattering
00:35:58because it's what
00:35:59the press reported
00:36:01another statement
00:36:02was
00:36:03i heard two shots
00:36:05they had to be
00:36:06coming from the
00:36:07marshland
00:36:07way in the back
00:36:08i decided
00:36:10it was time
00:36:11to leave
00:36:11and i left
00:36:12there are several
00:36:18things wrong
00:36:18with
00:36:19writer's statement
00:36:20there were actually
00:36:24three shots
00:36:25fired that night
00:36:26two were fired
00:36:27at david
00:36:27dobbling and
00:36:28one at robin
00:36:29sammy didn't
00:36:29mention anything
00:36:30about them
00:36:30being barefoot
00:36:31but their shoes
00:36:32are in the car
00:36:33the sand down
00:36:34there is not
00:36:34smooth sand
00:36:35it is made up
00:36:37with a lot
00:36:38of jagged
00:36:38shells
00:36:39etc
00:36:40it is extremely
00:36:41unlikely
00:36:41not wearing
00:36:42shoes or socks
00:36:44that they would
00:36:45walk this far
00:36:46in rough terrain
00:36:47on their own
00:36:48accord
00:36:48somebody marched
00:36:50them down
00:36:51to
00:36:52the place
00:36:54where they
00:36:54died
00:36:55they did
00:36:55not get
00:36:56out of the
00:36:56car
00:36:56and go
00:36:57strolling
00:36:57down there
00:36:58he is
00:37:00inserting
00:37:01himself
00:37:01in a
00:37:02serial killer
00:37:02investigation
00:37:03now why
00:37:03would he
00:37:04do that
00:37:04when mr rider
00:37:12was pressed
00:37:13he finally
00:37:14admitted
00:37:15well
00:37:16i took money
00:37:17out of david
00:37:18noplin's wallet
00:37:19i don't know
00:37:26if he figured
00:37:27if he came up
00:37:28with this tip
00:37:29and they found
00:37:30his print
00:37:31somewhere on
00:37:31the truck
00:37:32he would be
00:37:33able to say
00:37:33well i was
00:37:34just looking
00:37:34in
00:37:35well i think
00:37:35he did it
00:37:36out of trying
00:37:36to cover his
00:37:37ass
00:37:37what he saw
00:37:38was a wallet
00:37:39and he took
00:37:40advantage of it
00:37:41oh sammy
00:37:42why are you
00:37:43wasting our
00:37:43time with this
00:37:44he didn't kill
00:37:45two people
00:37:45he didn't know
00:37:46who did
00:37:46law enforcement
00:37:50were very frustrated
00:37:52with the investigation
00:37:53they weren't solving
00:37:54the case
00:37:55people were fearful
00:37:56i've noticed that
00:37:57a lot of girls
00:37:57aren't walking
00:37:58on campus
00:37:58by themselves
00:37:59especially late at night
00:38:00obviously we have to
00:38:01consider that
00:38:03there's a dangerous
00:38:04person or persons
00:38:05still in the community
00:38:07we needed this task
00:38:11force to try
00:38:12to if not tie
00:38:14these murders
00:38:15together
00:38:15find common
00:38:16denominators
00:38:17or separate
00:38:18them
00:38:19plot is experienced
00:38:23and he's smart
00:38:24he sees the rivers
00:38:26and he said
00:38:27hey look at this
00:38:28map
00:38:29what is around
00:38:30all of these crime
00:38:31scenes
00:38:32water
00:38:33how do you move
00:38:34in water
00:38:35you move in water
00:38:35in a boat
00:38:36the thing i remember
00:38:42about the autopsies
00:38:44of kathleen
00:38:45and rebecca
00:38:46was this rope
00:38:48that was found
00:38:48that was a piece
00:38:49of nautical rope
00:38:51which to me
00:38:53nautical rope
00:38:54is either used
00:38:55on a boat
00:38:56or used to tie up
00:38:57a boat
00:38:58now that is an interesting
00:39:03fact
00:39:03what if our man
00:39:05is a boater
00:39:06maybe we've been thinking
00:39:12about this wrong
00:39:13the entire time
00:39:14how did he approach
00:39:15these people
00:39:16if he used the boat
00:39:18in some way
00:39:19i think he had to
00:39:21anchor the boat
00:39:21on the river
00:39:22and use a smaller boat
00:39:23to come to the bank
00:39:24if you've got a trolling motor
00:39:26it makes little or no sound
00:39:28so you can maneuver
00:39:29around in this water
00:39:30and nobody even knows
00:39:31you're there
00:39:32you have no obligation
00:39:33legally to put lights
00:39:35on your boat
00:39:35you're not at sea
00:39:36you're in inland waterways
00:39:38no one's gonna question you
00:39:39you're a waterman
00:39:40right
00:39:41the word waterman
00:39:46is very specific
00:39:46to this area
00:39:47it's people who are involved
00:39:50in the oyster business
00:39:52and the fishing business
00:39:53in the york river
00:39:54the james river
00:39:55and the rappahannock river
00:39:56they have their own dialect
00:40:00they have their own language
00:40:01generationally
00:40:02all the way back
00:40:03to the colonial period
00:40:04this could be a waterman
00:40:07that's someone we need
00:40:09to concentrate on
00:40:10so what else do we know
00:40:11the toys used in these crimes
00:40:14are the toys that waterman
00:40:16use as tools
00:40:17most of these boats
00:40:24have diesel motors
00:40:25diesel was used
00:40:30in rebecca and kathleen's murder
00:40:32whoever killed them
00:40:35brought diesel fuel
00:40:36with them to the scene
00:40:37we have an extremely sharp instrument
00:40:41that cuts their throats
00:40:42fishermen take care of their knives
00:40:48part of their living
00:40:49part of their living
00:40:49sharp as a razor
00:40:51you can fillet a fish
00:40:52in a heartbeat
00:40:54this all became known
00:40:56as the waterman theory
00:40:58danny plot
00:41:00and other cops
00:41:01he brought with him
00:41:02surveyed the fishermen
00:41:03in the area
00:41:04these are an unusual lot
00:41:07they operate in private
00:41:09they're loners
00:41:10they are tough
00:41:12as oak
00:41:14they did not
00:41:15take kindly
00:41:16to being
00:41:17you know
00:41:18even interviewed
00:41:18they picked a lifestyle
00:41:20that they don't want
00:41:21to interact with people
00:41:22and for straight-laced
00:41:24fbi guys
00:41:24to walk into a waterman bar
00:41:26and say hey
00:41:27we want to ask some questions
00:41:28they're not going to get
00:41:29any progress from that
00:41:31at this point
00:41:32it's an all hands on deck
00:41:33sort of investigation
00:41:35but as it turns out
00:41:36shortly they will discover
00:41:38even that
00:41:39is not enough
00:41:40the park police
00:41:52have informed
00:41:53danny plot
00:41:54and they have found
00:41:54yet another
00:41:55abandoned vehicle
00:41:57on the colonial parkway
00:41:59the keys are in the ignition
00:42:02the car is running
00:42:03and nobody's around
00:42:05and plot's heart
00:42:07is in his throat
00:42:08they're going
00:42:13oh shit
00:42:14here we go again
00:42:15the colonial parkway
00:42:19serial killer
00:42:20is back in business
00:42:21danny plot
00:42:31is very concerned
00:42:33where are the people
00:42:34from this car
00:42:35this has a lot of similarities
00:42:45to the other murders
00:42:46lovers lanes
00:42:49near water
00:42:51only one mile
00:42:54from the thomas dowski crime scene
00:42:58one mile
00:43:00are you kidding me
00:43:02the park rangers
00:43:05informed plot
00:43:05that they ran
00:43:06a registration check
00:43:07on the vehicle
00:43:08and determined
00:43:08it's owned
00:43:09by keith call
00:43:10they contact
00:43:13call's parents
00:43:14they report him
00:43:17missing that morning
00:43:18the parents say
00:43:23he was with a female
00:43:24named
00:43:24cassandra haley
00:43:25and cassandra haley's parents
00:43:31also report her missing
00:43:32where are they
00:43:37some of their clothes
00:43:41and the car keys
00:43:42found inside the car
00:43:43a navy security team
00:43:45looks through the woods
00:43:46park rangers
00:43:47use a bloodhound
00:43:48in a boat
00:43:48for air sent over the water
00:43:49other dogs
00:43:50comb the beachfront area
00:43:51a dog traced the couple
00:43:55scent to the water's edge
00:43:56and then the scent ends
00:43:58the dogs are telling them
00:44:02those bodies
00:44:02are in this water
00:44:03but they're not
00:44:05there now
00:44:06because water moves
00:44:07and it moves
00:44:08bodies with it
00:44:09i searched
00:44:12the parkway
00:44:13in a company
00:44:14of united states marines
00:44:16who walked
00:44:17an arm length
00:44:18away from each other
00:44:19across a whole area
00:44:20near where that car
00:44:21was found
00:44:22the search dogs
00:44:26take the scent
00:44:27and they march
00:44:28directly to the york river
00:44:30and that night
00:44:31the nor'easter
00:44:32had been passing through
00:44:34right
00:44:34high waves
00:44:35high current
00:44:3660-70 mile an hour winds
00:44:39and driving rain
00:44:40so they are disposed of
00:44:42killed by some method
00:44:44or means
00:44:44they go in the york river
00:44:46the nor'easter comes
00:44:47and sweeps them where
00:44:49out to sea
00:44:51maybe all the way out
00:44:54wouldn't take much
00:45:02and these two poor
00:45:03unfortunate young people
00:45:04are never found
00:45:07not a trace of them
00:45:08the families
00:45:10couldn't even have a funeral
00:45:11amazing grace
00:45:17how sweet the sound
00:45:21i didn't want to think
00:45:23the worst to start with
00:45:24all of a sudden
00:45:25you know
00:45:25there's all these
00:45:26police
00:45:27calling the house
00:45:28and then
00:45:28as the day went on
00:45:30you just kind of
00:45:31came into that reality
00:45:33that
00:45:33something had happened
00:45:35keith just vanished
00:45:38in the thin air
00:45:39keith was really
00:45:42just a good-hearted kid
00:45:43and you just don't
00:45:44ever think
00:45:45that when somebody
00:45:46walks out of the door
00:45:47it's going to be
00:45:47the last time you see them
00:45:48he was into computers
00:45:51you know
00:45:51we had some of the first
00:45:53he was in there
00:45:54banging away on his
00:45:54commodore 64
00:45:55and learning everything
00:45:56about that
00:45:57and he was just like
00:45:58that 80s guy
00:45:59in 1988
00:46:00when this happened
00:46:01he was in his first
00:46:02semester of college
00:46:03and then with
00:46:04cassandra
00:46:05they were friends
00:46:07and she was really
00:46:09a pretty girl
00:46:10cassandra was
00:46:12the it girl
00:46:13i mean she was
00:46:14a cheerleader
00:46:15she's got a magnetism
00:46:17about her
00:46:18she was very bright
00:46:19she was really
00:46:20looking forward
00:46:21to completing
00:46:22her education
00:46:23and going on
00:46:24with a career
00:46:25they went out
00:46:28that night
00:46:29to a movie
00:46:29and then
00:46:30they decided
00:46:31to stop by
00:46:32some kind of
00:46:32college party
00:46:33going on there
00:46:34friends confirmed
00:46:35keith and sandra
00:46:36partied at the
00:46:37university square
00:46:38apartments april 10th
00:46:39they left around
00:46:402 a.m
00:46:41then disappeared
00:46:43and then cassandra
00:46:46had to be home
00:46:47at a certain time
00:46:48they said their goodbyes
00:46:49and that's the last
00:46:50time anybody saw
00:46:51the parkway
00:46:54was not a place
00:46:55that you went
00:46:56like that
00:46:57and just left
00:46:57your car there
00:46:58keith was more
00:46:59responsible than that
00:47:01the other murders
00:47:01had already happened
00:47:02keith wouldn't have
00:47:03went there
00:47:04it always haunted me
00:47:05and it haunts me
00:47:06to this day
00:47:07that we did not
00:47:08find keith
00:47:09and cassandra's
00:47:10remains
00:47:11we have to find
00:47:14the murdering
00:47:14son of a bitch
00:47:15that did this
00:47:15they finally decided
00:47:19all right
00:47:19let's go back
00:47:21and start over
00:47:22about six months
00:47:24into the fbi
00:47:25task force
00:47:26of the colonial
00:47:27parkway murders
00:47:28we had come to
00:47:30a couple conclusions
00:47:32looking at
00:47:34all the scenes
00:47:35the vehicles
00:47:37the wallets out
00:47:38we decided
00:47:40who we were looking
00:47:41for was a person
00:47:42of authority
00:47:43so imagine now
00:47:47it's night time
00:47:48here
00:47:49with somebody
00:47:52you care about
00:47:52you're not really
00:47:54thinking about
00:47:54anything
00:47:54and then
00:47:56suddenly
00:47:57there's a knock
00:47:59on your window
00:47:59and a man
00:48:00with a flashlight
00:48:01says what are you
00:48:02doing here
00:48:03you're not supposed
00:48:04to be here
00:48:05what if this killer
00:48:08poses as a policeman
00:48:10in the process
00:48:12of somebody
00:48:12getting out
00:48:13their id
00:48:13he pulls a gun
00:48:16so he now
00:48:17has control
00:48:18could that be
00:48:20of course it could
00:48:22during this era
00:48:24you could buy
00:48:25an old cop car
00:48:26complete with
00:48:27a side light
00:48:28etc
00:48:28for 300 bucks
00:48:30at a police auction
00:48:31and duplicate
00:48:32being a cop
00:48:34we decided
00:48:38to hold a press
00:48:39conference
00:48:40with the FBI's
00:48:41blessing
00:48:42and it exploded
00:48:43it reached the point
00:48:46where
00:48:46even in the newspaper
00:48:47articles
00:48:48they were warning
00:48:49people to verify
00:48:51that if they were
00:48:51being pulled over
00:48:52that it was really
00:48:53a policeman
00:48:54the media took it
00:48:56and ran with it
00:48:58because it made
00:48:59a good story
00:49:00nothing about this
00:49:02seems to work
00:49:03and then you begin
00:49:03to convince yourself
00:49:04that nothing
00:49:05will ever work
00:49:06law enforcement
00:49:07are running out
00:49:08of room
00:49:08at the morgue
00:49:09this is one
00:49:10serious guy
00:49:11he's not gonna stop
00:49:13as cases go on
00:49:22for years
00:49:23they become more
00:49:24difficult
00:49:24colonial parkway
00:49:26murders have
00:49:26slowed down
00:49:27nothing much
00:49:30has been happening
00:49:31no news
00:49:32no new events
00:49:33an anonymous tipster
00:49:36calls the task force
00:49:37and says
00:49:38an individual
00:49:39has been harassing
00:49:40couples
00:49:41in the lovers lane
00:49:43pull-offs
00:49:44on the colonial
00:49:45parkway
00:49:46they called him
00:49:47the peeping tom
00:49:48really
00:49:50now that
00:49:51is interesting
00:49:52who might you be
00:49:54mr. peeping tom
00:49:56and what are you doing
00:49:57on the parkway
00:49:58through a fbi
00:50:07or state police
00:50:08tip line
00:50:08we get a tip
00:50:09that a man
00:50:10in a blue truck
00:50:11is stopping
00:50:12and looking
00:50:13in parked cars
00:50:14on the parkway
00:50:15they get a tag
00:50:18the tag reads
00:50:20e-m-r-a-w
00:50:23eat them raw
00:50:24what do you eat raw?
00:50:27oysters
00:50:27that truck
00:50:33comes back
00:50:34to a waterman
00:50:36named
00:50:37Alan Wilmer
00:50:38so now
00:50:41the fbi
00:50:41has somebody
00:50:42that they can look at
00:50:43this could be him
00:50:45this could be
00:50:47the colonial
00:50:48parkway killer
00:50:49and they need
00:50:50to act
00:50:50best
00:50:51the fbi
00:50:54and the virginia
00:50:56state police
00:50:57now have
00:50:58what appears
00:50:59to be a viable
00:50:59suspect
00:51:00the fbi
00:51:02surveils him
00:51:03goes to his
00:51:05residence
00:51:06where they find
00:51:07him
00:51:07cleaning his
00:51:09truck
00:51:09they noticed
00:51:11wilmer was out
00:51:12spray-painting
00:51:13the back
00:51:13of his vehicle
00:51:14and that he
00:51:15was bleaching
00:51:16the interior
00:51:17of the vehicle
00:51:18now why would
00:51:20he do that
00:51:20is he concealing
00:51:22evidence
00:51:22maybe this
00:51:27is our guy
00:51:28they immediately
00:51:31go to get
00:51:32a search warrant
00:51:32the fbi
00:51:35return to
00:51:36wilmer's place
00:51:37they present him
00:51:39with the warrant
00:51:40he is cooperative
00:51:41he steps aside
00:51:43and they search
00:51:43the premise
00:51:44they do the search
00:51:48warrant
00:51:48of his truck
00:51:49doesn't reveal
00:51:52a whole lot
00:51:52but
00:51:53the search
00:51:54of his house
00:51:55reveals
00:51:56several things
00:51:59they find
00:52:01an enormous
00:52:01supply of
00:52:02pornography
00:52:03they find
00:52:04guns
00:52:05they find
00:52:06pairs of
00:52:07handcuffs
00:52:08and other
00:52:08bondage
00:52:09devices
00:52:09I am not
00:52:12saying that
00:52:12makes you
00:52:13someone that
00:52:14kills people
00:52:14but you put
00:52:16everything together
00:52:17this is not
00:52:18your average
00:52:19guy
00:52:19they continue
00:52:21to talk to him
00:52:22he denies
00:52:23any knowledge
00:52:23of any of this
00:52:24denies everything
00:52:26they have no
00:52:28evidence that
00:52:29could result
00:52:29in an arrest
00:52:30they decide
00:52:32that they will
00:52:33have an fbi
00:52:34polygraphist
00:52:35take a shot
00:52:36at this guy
00:52:37Mr. Wilmer
00:52:43was interviewed
00:52:44and he did
00:52:45admit to being
00:52:45on the parkway
00:52:46and approaching
00:52:47a vehicle
00:52:49or two
00:52:49which was
00:52:51very useful
00:52:52information
00:52:52but his story
00:52:54changed a little
00:52:55bit
00:52:55he said
00:52:57yeah I was
00:52:57on Ocono
00:52:58Parkway
00:52:58but I wasn't
00:52:59in that
00:53:00particular
00:53:00pull-off
00:53:01I was in
00:53:01another one
00:53:02I walk around
00:53:04out there
00:53:05and I look
00:53:05for places
00:53:06to fish
00:53:06nothing wrong
00:53:08with that
00:53:08and there isn't
00:53:09anything wrong
00:53:09with that
00:53:10so he takes
00:53:11the polygraph
00:53:12and the
00:53:14polygraphist
00:53:14says
00:53:15he didn't
00:53:15do this
00:53:16he's innocent
00:53:20and the fbi
00:53:22looks at that
00:53:23polygraphist
00:53:24and says
00:53:24well you
00:53:25better be
00:53:26right
00:53:27the fbi
00:53:29the fbi
00:53:29decided that
00:53:30him passing
00:53:31a polygraph
00:53:32and the lack
00:53:33of direct
00:53:34physical evidence
00:53:35was enough
00:53:37to say
00:53:38he's not
00:53:39the one
00:53:39he looks good
00:53:41nothing happens
00:53:42he moves on
00:53:43and so does
00:53:43the task force
00:53:44fbi
00:53:48and state
00:53:49police
00:53:49if one
00:53:50of us
00:53:50got a lead
00:53:51you know
00:53:52we'd let
00:53:52the other
00:53:53one know
00:53:53but the leads
00:53:55they just
00:53:56weren't there
00:53:57and you know
00:53:58a family member
00:53:59they weren't shy
00:54:01and I don't
00:54:02blame them
00:54:02and they
00:54:03sometimes
00:54:04weren't shy
00:54:05in the media
00:54:06you know
00:54:06my son
00:54:08daughter
00:54:08sister
00:54:10brother
00:54:11brutally
00:54:12murdered
00:54:12what are
00:54:13you doing
00:54:13he didn't
00:54:15hear nothing
00:54:15about it
00:54:15the fbi
00:54:16didn't
00:54:17didn't talk
00:54:17to anybody
00:54:18and then
00:54:19joyce would
00:54:20consistently pick
00:54:21up the phone
00:54:21and call them
00:54:23up and ask them
00:54:23about the case
00:54:24and all that
00:54:24it seemed like
00:54:26they weren't giving
00:54:27us a lot of
00:54:28information
00:54:28it just kind
00:54:30of went
00:54:30dead
00:54:31and I didn't
00:54:31handle it
00:54:32very good
00:54:32at all
00:54:32and even
00:54:33to this day
00:54:34that is the
00:54:35worst thing
00:54:35that's ever
00:54:36happened
00:54:36just like
00:54:38somebody walks
00:54:39out the door
00:54:40and they're
00:54:40fine
00:54:41and they
00:54:42just don't
00:54:42come back
00:54:43and you
00:54:43don't have
00:54:43answers
00:54:44you don't
00:54:45have a body
00:54:46the anxiety
00:54:47was terrible
00:54:49at that time
00:54:49I mean
00:54:50it's just
00:54:50not knowing
00:54:51what happened
00:54:52to them
00:54:52just nothing
00:54:53but anxiety
00:54:54it just
00:54:54doesn't go
00:54:55away
00:54:56you know
00:54:56you have
00:54:58to become
00:54:58your own
00:54:59advocate
00:55:00because no
00:55:00one else
00:55:01will do
00:55:01it for you
00:55:02we're the
00:55:02ones now
00:55:03kind of
00:55:04trying to
00:55:04advance
00:55:05this case
00:55:06I'm looking
00:55:07for answers
00:55:08who killed
00:55:09my younger
00:55:09sister
00:55:10and her
00:55:10girlfriend
00:55:11all of
00:55:12these other
00:55:13families
00:55:13mine included
00:55:14deserve answers
00:55:15all our
00:55:18answer was
00:55:19we're doing
00:55:20everything we
00:55:21can
00:55:21it had been
00:55:22years
00:55:24nothing
00:55:25Labor Day
00:55:30weekend
00:55:311989
00:55:32and a Virginia
00:55:33state trooper
00:55:34is investigating
00:55:35an abandoned
00:55:35vehicle
00:55:36in a rest
00:55:36area
00:55:37that's left
00:55:38running
00:55:38with the
00:55:39keys
00:55:39and the
00:55:39ignition
00:55:40and when
00:55:41he ran
00:55:42the tag
00:55:42of course
00:55:43ding ding
00:55:43ding ding
00:55:44ding
00:55:44this is a
00:55:45car
00:55:46of a
00:55:47missing
00:55:47person
00:55:48the car
00:55:49comes back
00:55:49to 21
00:55:50year old
00:55:50Daniel
00:55:51Lauer
00:55:51reported
00:55:53missing
00:55:53with 18
00:55:54year old
00:55:54Anna Maria
00:55:55Phelps
00:55:56the colonial
00:55:58parkway
00:55:58killer is
00:55:59back
00:55:59and maybe
00:56:01this time
00:56:02he's left
00:56:03the waterfront
00:56:04the investigators
00:56:10are instantly
00:56:11suspicious that
00:56:12this is the
00:56:12colonial
00:56:13parkway
00:56:13killer
00:56:13but what's
00:56:16different
00:56:16along I-64
00:56:18their car was
00:56:19found at a
00:56:19westbound rest
00:56:20stop
00:56:20they call it
00:56:21the new
00:56:22camp rest
00:56:23area
00:56:23this rest
00:56:25area is many
00:56:27miles from the
00:56:27colonial
00:56:28parkway
00:56:28this is inland
00:56:30not the
00:56:30waterfront
00:56:31where he has
00:56:32been for
00:56:32years
00:56:33so I went
00:56:35up there
00:56:35and I find
00:56:36the car
00:56:36a gold
00:56:38Chevy Nova
00:56:39with black
00:56:40primer
00:56:40he sees
00:56:42this car
00:56:42clothes in
00:56:44the backseat
00:56:45keys in
00:56:47the ignition
00:56:47car running
00:56:49it is no
00:56:51question
00:56:51it is deja vu
00:56:53we're dealing
00:56:54with the same
00:56:55guy
00:56:55Anna Maria
00:57:01Phelps was a
00:57:0218 year old
00:57:04young lady
00:57:05from Amelia
00:57:06County Virginia
00:57:07who had
00:57:08recently dropped
00:57:09out of school
00:57:10school wasn't
00:57:12for her
00:57:12she wanted
00:57:13to work
00:57:13she wanted
00:57:14to get ahead
00:57:15in life
00:57:15she wanted
00:57:16to be
00:57:16on her own
00:57:17and she
00:57:18had a boyfriend
00:57:19named Clinton
00:57:20Lauer
00:57:20the other
00:57:21victim
00:57:22Daniel Lauer
00:57:23was her
00:57:24boyfriend's
00:57:25brother
00:57:25Daniel
00:57:26he was a
00:57:26horse lover
00:57:27he liked
00:57:28riding
00:57:28he was
00:57:29six foot
00:57:30tall
00:57:31he was a
00:57:31dominating
00:57:32force
00:57:33anybody
00:57:33that handles
00:57:34horses
00:57:34he wasn't
00:57:35a weakling
00:57:36either
00:57:36Daniel was
00:57:38doing very
00:57:39well
00:57:40his father
00:57:40had a
00:57:40painting
00:57:41business
00:57:41and he
00:57:41worked
00:57:42there
00:57:42his father
00:57:43had gotten
00:57:43him a
00:57:44Chevy Nova
00:57:45in many
00:57:45respects
00:57:46he was
00:57:47on the
00:57:48right path
00:57:48for independence
00:57:49himself
00:57:50and
00:57:51Daniel
00:57:52had decided
00:57:53he wanted
00:57:54to kind
00:57:54of get
00:57:55out on
00:57:55his own
00:57:56and
00:57:57the plan
00:57:58was
00:57:58for
00:57:59Anna Maria
00:58:00Phelps
00:58:00and Daniel
00:58:01Lauer
00:58:01to drive
00:58:02to Virginia
00:58:03Beach
00:58:03and the
00:58:04best way
00:58:04to get
00:58:05there
00:58:05was on
00:58:05I-64
00:58:06we learned
00:58:12from the
00:58:12families
00:58:13that they
00:58:13never arrived
00:58:14in Virginia
00:58:15Beach
00:58:15if they
00:58:17are in
00:58:17fact
00:58:18missing
00:58:18and they're
00:58:18not in
00:58:19this car
00:58:20then where
00:58:20are they
00:58:21could
00:58:22the
00:58:22Colonial
00:58:22Parkway
00:58:23killer
00:58:23have
00:58:23abducted
00:58:24and killed
00:58:24them
00:58:25just like
00:58:25the
00:58:25others
00:58:25where are
00:58:27these
00:58:27people
00:58:28what has
00:58:29happened
00:58:29to them
00:58:29and the
00:58:31search
00:58:31begins
00:58:32there
00:58:35there was
00:58:35a search
00:58:36by
00:58:36special
00:58:37agents
00:58:38of
00:58:38Virginia
00:58:38State
00:58:39Police
00:58:39and
00:58:39troopers
00:58:40of
00:58:40Virginia
00:58:40State
00:58:41Police
00:58:41in the
00:58:41general
00:58:42area
00:58:42no
00:58:45Anna Maria
00:58:45and Daniel
00:58:46again
00:58:47it's
00:58:48very
00:58:49frustrating
00:58:50and I can only
00:58:51imagine what it's like
00:58:52for the families
00:58:53we really love
00:58:54both of them
00:58:55very much
00:58:56and if there's
00:58:58anything at all
00:58:58that you can do
00:58:59to help
00:58:59we'd appreciate
00:59:00it
00:59:00six weeks later
00:59:02on October
00:59:0321st
00:59:041989
00:59:05two turkey
00:59:06hunters
00:59:07find something
00:59:08shocking
00:59:08I get a call
00:59:11hey
00:59:12we need you
00:59:13to go
00:59:13near the
00:59:15new Kent
00:59:15rest area
00:59:16I'm there
00:59:17there was a
00:59:19logging road
00:59:19that was the
00:59:20best way to
00:59:20describe it
00:59:21and there was a
00:59:22deputy station
00:59:23there
00:59:23and I stopped
00:59:24and he said
00:59:25go up here
00:59:26you didn't walk
00:59:28very far up
00:59:29the fork of the
00:59:29road
00:59:30and then you
00:59:32went into
00:59:33the woods
00:59:33I could see
00:59:36they already
00:59:37had a tent
00:59:38set up
00:59:39they find
00:59:43skeletonized
00:59:44remains of
00:59:45humans
00:59:45two skulls
00:59:50and bones
00:59:51these are
00:59:57two young
00:59:58people that
00:59:59unfortunately
01:00:00the best way
01:00:01to describe it
01:00:02nicely is
01:00:03they melted
01:00:04into the ground
01:00:05they were so
01:00:08badly decomposed
01:00:09at the time
01:00:10that it was
01:00:10very difficult
01:00:11to determine
01:00:11exactly what
01:00:12happened
01:00:12that's me
01:00:16with a shovel
01:00:17in my hand
01:00:18I would have
01:00:20been
01:00:2033
01:00:22maybe
01:00:24I believe
01:00:26it had
01:00:27rained
01:00:28slightly
01:00:28as you can
01:00:29tell
01:00:29one man's
01:00:30wearing a raincoat
01:00:31the bottom
01:00:34the bottom photo
01:00:35is Anna Maria's
01:00:36locket
01:00:37that was found
01:00:40at the fork
01:00:41of the road
01:00:41we speculate
01:00:44that that
01:00:46maybe was
01:00:47where
01:00:47she was killed
01:00:49and that locket
01:00:50came off
01:00:50when the general
01:00:54area
01:00:54was searched
01:00:55there was
01:00:57you know
01:00:58very little
01:00:59to find
01:01:00no bullets
01:01:02no
01:01:03knife
01:01:04no anything
01:01:05an autopsy
01:01:07confirmed the
01:01:08body of
01:01:08Anna Maria
01:01:09Phelps
01:01:09another body
01:01:10is believed
01:01:11to be
01:01:11Dan Lauer
01:01:12the skeletal
01:01:14remains
01:01:15were taken
01:01:16to the
01:01:16Smithsonian
01:01:17Institute
01:01:18with the
01:01:19forensic
01:01:20anthropologist
01:01:21Dr. Doug
01:01:22Owsley
01:01:23autopsies
01:01:25of skeletons
01:01:25yield
01:01:26little other
01:01:27than sex
01:01:27and age
01:01:28and any
01:01:30wounds
01:01:31to the
01:01:31bone
01:01:31structure
01:01:32when he
01:01:33examined
01:01:34the skeletal
01:01:36remains
01:01:36Dr. Owsley
01:01:37found
01:01:38what he
01:01:39deemed
01:01:40a knife
01:01:41wound
01:01:42on
01:01:42Anna Maria's
01:01:43left hand
01:01:44and he
01:01:46speculated
01:01:46that
01:01:47if someone
01:01:48is getting
01:01:48ready
01:01:49to cut
01:01:50your throat
01:01:51you hold
01:01:54your hands
01:01:55up
01:01:55and it
01:01:56was a
01:01:56diagonal
01:01:57knife
01:01:57wound
01:01:57on her
01:01:58third
01:01:59finger
01:02:00that's
01:02:02the only
01:02:03trauma
01:02:03that he
01:02:05could save
01:02:06is this
01:02:08the Colonial
01:02:08Parkway
01:02:09killer
01:02:09well
01:02:10of course
01:02:11it is
01:02:11there's a
01:02:12change
01:02:13here and
01:02:13there in
01:02:13the MO
01:02:14but so
01:02:14what
01:02:15either way
01:02:16they work
01:02:17the couple's
01:02:18disappearance
01:02:18is strikingly
01:02:19similar to
01:02:20others
01:02:20including
01:02:21Robin Edwards
01:02:22and David
01:02:22Knobling
01:02:23the only
01:02:23difference
01:02:24is that
01:02:24they were
01:02:25found in
01:02:25the woods
01:02:25instead of
01:02:26in the river
01:02:27the victims
01:02:28are in
01:02:28cars
01:02:29there's
01:02:29two of
01:02:29them
01:02:29they're
01:02:31probably
01:02:31very
01:02:32vulnerable
01:02:32he
01:02:34strangles
01:02:36cuts
01:02:37the throat
01:02:37of
01:02:38Rebecca
01:02:38and Kathleen
01:02:40he
01:02:42shoots
01:02:42David
01:02:43and Robin
01:02:43he
01:02:45disposes
01:02:46of the
01:02:46bodies
01:02:47however
01:02:47it was
01:02:48done
01:02:48of
01:02:49Keith
01:02:49and
01:02:49Cassandra
01:02:50and
01:02:52then
01:02:52lays
01:02:53the other
01:02:54two
01:02:54side
01:02:54by
01:02:54side
01:02:55there
01:02:57are a
01:02:57couple
01:02:58things
01:02:58that are
01:02:58different
01:02:59but there
01:02:59are some
01:02:59things
01:03:00that are
01:03:00not
01:03:00two on
01:03:02the
01:03:02parkway
01:03:03two
01:03:03within
01:03:04easy
01:03:04driving
01:03:05distance
01:03:05of
01:03:06the
01:03:06parkway
01:03:06his
01:03:08method
01:03:08up to
01:03:09now
01:03:09has been
01:03:09the sea
01:03:10and the
01:03:11water
01:03:11now
01:03:13his
01:03:13method
01:03:13is a
01:03:14concealment
01:03:15in the
01:03:15deep woods
01:03:16what does
01:03:17that mean
01:03:17did he
01:03:18become
01:03:19fearful
01:03:19of the
01:03:19increased
01:03:20patrol
01:03:20activity
01:03:21on the
01:03:21parkway
01:03:22probably
01:03:22he doesn't
01:03:24want to
01:03:24stop
01:03:24killing
01:03:25he just
01:03:25wants to
01:03:26stop
01:03:26the police
01:03:27from
01:03:27getting
01:03:27close
01:03:28to him
01:03:28and the
01:03:28reality
01:03:29is
01:03:29he may
01:03:30never be
01:03:30found
01:03:31this
01:03:39individual
01:03:40has
01:03:40eluded
01:03:41law
01:03:41enforcement
01:03:42for years
01:03:43if he's
01:03:44shifting
01:03:44his M.O.
01:03:45and he's
01:03:45committing
01:03:46other
01:03:46murders
01:03:47we may
01:03:47not even
01:03:48recognize
01:03:49them
01:03:49as
01:03:49his
01:03:50he's
01:03:52a
01:03:52killer
01:03:52that's
01:03:53what
01:03:53he
01:03:53does
01:03:53the
01:03:56question
01:03:56always
01:03:56becomes
01:03:57has
01:03:58he
01:03:58done
01:03:58other
01:03:59crimes
01:03:59of
01:04:01course
01:04:01he
01:04:01has
01:04:02that
01:04:02that's
01:04:03what's
01:04:03kind
01:04:03of
01:04:03scary
01:04:04there's
01:04:05going
01:04:05to be
01:04:05other
01:04:06victims
01:04:07how many
01:04:07did he
01:04:08kill
01:04:08we have
01:04:09no clue
01:04:09there have
01:04:14been
01:04:14eight
01:04:15dead
01:04:15there's a
01:04:16possibility
01:04:17there are
01:04:17others
01:04:17dead
01:04:18that we
01:04:18don't even
01:04:18know
01:04:19about
01:04:19and the
01:04:20case
01:04:20continues
01:04:20to be
01:04:21cold
01:04:21despite
01:04:22their
01:04:22focus
01:04:23on it
01:04:23for
01:04:24years
01:04:24they've
01:04:25gotten
01:04:25nowhere
01:04:26fast
01:04:27after
01:04:30the
01:04:30task
01:04:31force
01:04:31I
01:04:31worked
01:04:32several
01:04:32years
01:04:33in the
01:04:33fugitive
01:04:33unit
01:04:34as a
01:04:34special
01:04:34agent
01:04:35which
01:04:36took
01:04:36me
01:04:36away
01:04:36from
01:04:37it
01:04:37and it
01:04:37was
01:04:37given
01:04:37to
01:04:38somebody
01:04:38else
01:04:38but I
01:04:39worked
01:04:39in
01:04:39and around
01:04:41the same
01:04:41office
01:04:42and I
01:04:43did not
01:04:44have the
01:04:44least bit
01:04:45problem
01:04:46saying hey
01:04:47anything new
01:04:47with Ragged
01:04:48Island
01:04:48anything new
01:04:49with the
01:04:49Parkway murders
01:04:50no go
01:04:51away
01:04:51despite all
01:04:52the effort
01:04:53despite all
01:04:54the leads
01:04:55and all
01:04:55of the
01:04:56investigative
01:04:56work
01:04:57the years
01:04:58began to
01:04:58tick by
01:04:59and no
01:05:00justice
01:05:00has been
01:05:01found
01:05:01for the
01:05:02family
01:05:02my mom
01:05:08and my
01:05:09dad
01:05:09kept in
01:05:09touch
01:05:10with the
01:05:10police
01:05:10over the
01:05:10years
01:05:11and I
01:05:11took it
01:05:11with a
01:05:12grain
01:05:12of
01:05:12saw
01:05:12I
01:05:14had
01:05:14zero
01:05:15expectation
01:05:15about
01:05:16finding out
01:05:16who killed
01:05:16my brother
01:05:17after
01:05:17the
01:05:18tenth
01:05:18year
01:05:19the
01:05:20twentieth
01:05:21year
01:05:21the
01:05:22thirtieth
01:05:22year
01:05:23and it's
01:05:24been a
01:05:24horrendous
01:05:25waiting game
01:05:26the whole
01:05:26time
01:05:26just a
01:05:27cold
01:05:27waiting
01:05:27game
01:05:28that's
01:05:29all it's
01:05:29been
01:05:29it's not
01:05:31like it
01:05:31was
01:05:31forgotten
01:05:31but it's
01:05:33just like
01:05:33what do
01:05:34you do
01:05:34none of us
01:05:35were brought
01:05:35up in
01:05:36law
01:05:36enforcement
01:05:36none of
01:05:37us
01:05:37had any
01:05:38background
01:05:38on what
01:05:39to do
01:05:39if your
01:05:40if your
01:05:41brother is
01:05:41abducted
01:05:42or murdered
01:05:42you've got
01:05:44eight victims
01:05:44sixteen moms
01:05:45and dads
01:05:46we've lost
01:05:47nine of them
01:05:47so far
01:05:48both of my
01:05:48parents passed
01:05:49away
01:05:50it's been
01:05:50thirty seven
01:05:51years
01:05:51I can't really
01:05:52say it gets
01:05:53easier to talk
01:05:54about
01:05:54all of these
01:05:56victims
01:05:57have been
01:05:58dead
01:05:58much longer
01:06:00than they were
01:06:01alive
01:06:01many of the
01:06:03investigators
01:06:03involved in this
01:06:04are retired
01:06:05but this is not a
01:06:05case anybody
01:06:06ever forgets
01:06:07it's been
01:06:07very hard
01:06:08on Danny
01:06:09I retired
01:06:10from the
01:06:10state police
01:06:11in 2013
01:06:12but those
01:06:14murders
01:06:14have never
01:06:16been far
01:06:17from my
01:06:17mind
01:06:18and I
01:06:18still remember
01:06:19the frustration
01:06:20of why
01:06:22can't we
01:06:23find this
01:06:24person
01:06:24it's the
01:06:26worst feeling
01:06:27in the world
01:06:27you feel
01:06:29like a
01:06:30failure
01:06:30you feel
01:06:31like you
01:06:31haven't done
01:06:31your job
01:06:32you know
01:06:33better
01:06:34you did
01:06:35everything
01:06:36humanly
01:06:36possible
01:06:37it just
01:06:38wasn't
01:06:38enough
01:06:39and you
01:06:40beat
01:06:41yourself
01:06:41up
01:06:41for that
01:06:42December
01:06:492017
01:06:50law
01:06:51enforcement
01:06:51responds
01:06:52to a
01:06:52911
01:06:53complaint
01:06:54about
01:06:55a foul
01:06:56odor
01:06:56emanating
01:06:57from a
01:06:57private
01:06:58residence
01:06:58they
01:07:01find
01:07:02a
01:07:02badly
01:07:03decomposed
01:07:04body
01:07:04that
01:07:05basically
01:07:05is a
01:07:06bed
01:07:06full
01:07:07of
01:07:07soup
01:07:07the
01:07:10decay
01:07:11was
01:07:11horrible
01:07:12they don't
01:07:13know if
01:07:13they're dealing
01:07:13with a
01:07:14natural death
01:07:15a suicide
01:07:15or a
01:07:16murder
01:07:16the
01:07:18autopsy
01:07:19reveals
01:07:20advanced
01:07:21arteriosclerosis
01:07:22and blocked
01:07:23arteries
01:07:23in other words
01:07:25his heart
01:07:25got blocked
01:07:26up
01:07:26and it
01:07:27stopped
01:07:27and so
01:07:28did he
01:07:29they take
01:07:30samples
01:07:30of these
01:07:31remains
01:07:32for the
01:07:32purpose of
01:07:33obtaining
01:07:33DNA
01:07:34and the
01:07:35possibility
01:07:35of using
01:07:36it to
01:07:36identify
01:07:37the
01:07:37individual
01:07:37little
01:07:38did anyone
01:07:39know
01:07:40this was
01:07:40someone
01:07:41who was
01:07:41directly
01:07:42under
01:07:42their
01:07:42noses
01:07:43the
01:07:43entire
01:07:44time
01:07:44January
01:07:49of 2024
01:07:50was when
01:07:51we got
01:07:52the first
01:07:52substantial
01:07:53break
01:07:54in the
01:07:55Colonial
01:07:55Parkway
01:07:55murders
01:07:56a detective
01:07:58is going
01:07:58through the
01:07:59daily
01:07:59crime
01:07:59sheets
01:08:00notices
01:08:01this
01:08:02death
01:08:02case
01:08:03looks
01:08:04at the
01:08:05name
01:08:05and
01:08:06recognizes
01:08:07it
01:08:07it was
01:08:09from
01:08:09years
01:08:10ago
01:08:10I was
01:08:12called
01:08:12and the
01:08:13person
01:08:13said
01:08:13the name
01:08:14Alan
01:08:14Wilmer
01:08:15made
01:08:15anything
01:08:15to you
01:08:16and I
01:08:16said
01:08:17yeah
01:08:17Parkway
01:08:19murder
01:08:19suspect
01:08:20this
01:08:22was
01:08:22the
01:08:22guy
01:08:23who
01:08:23was
01:08:23identified
01:08:24by
01:08:24an
01:08:24anonymous
01:08:25person
01:08:25as
01:08:26a
01:08:27peeping
01:08:27tom
01:08:28on
01:08:28the
01:08:29Colonial
01:08:29Parkway
01:08:30the
01:08:31FBI
01:08:31looked
01:08:32at him
01:08:32and they
01:08:33let him
01:08:33go
01:08:33because
01:08:34they
01:08:34couldn't
01:08:34prove
01:08:34anything
01:08:35suddenly
01:08:36there's
01:08:36a
01:08:36connection
01:08:37back
01:08:37to
01:08:38the
01:08:38Colonial
01:08:38Parkway
01:08:39which
01:08:39means
01:08:40a
01:08:40connection
01:08:40potentially
01:08:41to
01:08:41all
01:08:42the
01:08:42Colonial
01:08:42Parkway
01:08:43murders
01:08:43which
01:08:44means
01:08:44you
01:08:45start
01:08:45looking
01:08:45for
01:08:46where
01:08:46do
01:08:46we
01:08:46have
01:08:47DNA
01:08:47that
01:08:48we
01:08:48might
01:08:49be
01:08:49able
01:08:49to
01:08:49compare
01:08:50Robin
01:08:52Edwards
01:08:52had
01:08:52been
01:08:53sodomized
01:08:53and
01:08:54to
01:08:54the
01:08:54credit
01:08:55of
01:08:55the
01:08:55Virginia
01:08:56State
01:08:56Police
01:08:56they
01:08:56managed
01:08:57to
01:08:57maintain
01:08:58some
01:08:58of
01:08:59the
01:08:59samples
01:08:59of
01:08:59that
01:08:59DNA
01:09:00for
01:09:01ages
01:09:02Alan
01:09:03is
01:09:04deceased
01:09:04but
01:09:05now
01:09:05we
01:09:06have
01:09:06a
01:09:06DNA
01:09:06sample
01:09:07from
01:09:07him
01:09:08and
01:09:08they
01:09:08compare
01:09:09that
01:09:09sample
01:09:10taken
01:09:10from
01:09:11the
01:09:11victim
01:09:11to
01:09:12the
01:09:12sample
01:09:12taken
01:09:13of
01:09:13Alan
01:09:13Wilmer
01:09:14Sr.
01:09:14and
01:09:15it's
01:09:16a
01:09:16100%
01:09:17match
01:09:17well
01:09:23my
01:09:23my
01:09:24my
01:09:24after
01:09:31decades
01:09:32of work
01:09:33and effort
01:09:34and theorizing
01:09:35they finally
01:09:36have a name
01:09:37all these
01:09:41years later
01:09:41Alan
01:09:43Wilmer
01:09:44Sr.
01:09:44is
01:09:45the
01:09:46colonial
01:09:47parkway
01:09:48killer
01:09:48best way
01:09:52to put
01:09:52what I
01:09:53was
01:09:53was
01:09:53ecstatic
01:09:54you know
01:09:55I was
01:09:56ecstatic
01:09:57I was
01:09:58also
01:09:58humbled
01:10:00and
01:10:01a little
01:10:02bit
01:10:02irritated
01:10:03at
01:10:03myself
01:10:04that
01:10:04I
01:10:06knew
01:10:06that
01:10:07Alan
01:10:07Wilmer
01:10:07was a
01:10:08great
01:10:09suspect
01:10:09but
01:10:11who
01:10:11is
01:10:11this
01:10:12guy
01:10:12who
01:10:13is
01:10:14Alan
01:10:14Wilmer
01:10:15Sr.
01:10:18what
01:10:18was
01:10:18Alan
01:10:19Wilmer
01:10:19besides
01:10:19a
01:10:20murder
01:10:20and
01:10:20piece
01:10:20of
01:10:20shit
01:10:21he
01:10:21was
01:10:22a
01:10:22waterman
01:10:22he
01:10:25was
01:10:26a
01:10:26commercial
01:10:26fisherman
01:10:27specifically
01:10:27who
01:10:28farmed
01:10:28clams
01:10:29and
01:10:30oysters
01:10:30he
01:10:33spent
01:10:33the
01:10:33majority
01:10:33of
01:10:34his
01:10:34time
01:10:34on
01:10:34his
01:10:34boat
01:10:35a
01:10:35vessel
01:10:35he
01:10:36named
01:10:36Denny
01:10:37Wade
01:10:37from
01:10:43a
01:10:43geographic
01:10:43perspective
01:10:44the
01:10:45anchor
01:10:45point
01:10:45is
01:10:46the
01:10:46York
01:10:46River
01:10:47and
01:10:47that's
01:10:47where
01:10:48he
01:10:48worked
01:10:49every
01:10:49day
01:10:50it
01:10:51makes
01:10:51complete
01:10:52sense
01:10:53that
01:10:54it
01:10:54was
01:10:54a
01:10:55waterman
01:10:55all
01:10:56along
01:10:56also
01:10:59Wilmer
01:10:59was
01:10:59an
01:10:59avid
01:11:00hunter
01:11:00he
01:11:01belonged
01:11:02to
01:11:02a
01:11:02hunt
01:11:03club
01:11:03not
01:11:03far
01:11:04from
01:11:04the
01:11:04area
01:11:05where
01:11:05the
01:11:05fourth
01:11:05murder
01:11:06victims
01:11:06were
01:11:06discovered
01:11:07skeletonized
01:11:08when
01:11:09you
01:11:09look
01:11:09at
01:11:09Phelps
01:11:10Lauer
01:11:10their
01:11:11bodies
01:11:12were
01:11:12found
01:11:13on
01:11:13a
01:11:13private
01:11:14hunting
01:11:14reserve
01:11:15is
01:11:15there
01:11:16a
01:11:16connection
01:11:16we
01:11:17don't
01:11:17know
01:11:18but
01:11:18where
01:11:18there's
01:11:18smoke
01:11:19there's
01:11:19often
01:11:19fire
01:11:20everything
01:11:23about
01:11:24Alan
01:11:24Wilmer's
01:11:25life
01:11:25fits
01:11:26the
01:11:26entire
01:11:27style
01:11:28of
01:11:28the
01:11:28colonial
01:11:29parkway
01:11:29killer
01:11:30he
01:11:31moves
01:11:32by
01:11:32boat
01:11:32he's
01:11:34around
01:11:34at
01:11:35night
01:11:35where
01:11:36you
01:11:36can
01:11:36see
01:11:37the
01:11:37lovers
01:11:37lanes
01:11:38from
01:11:38the
01:11:38water
01:11:39everything
01:11:40about
01:11:41him
01:11:41seems
01:11:41to
01:11:42come
01:11:42together
01:11:42once
01:11:43he's
01:11:43identified
01:11:44and
01:11:44firmly
01:11:45linked
01:11:45scientifically
01:11:47to
01:11:47one
01:11:47victim
01:11:48the
01:11:53FBI
01:11:54had
01:11:54called
01:11:55us
01:11:55and
01:11:55they
01:11:56let
01:11:56us
01:11:56know
01:11:56that
01:11:56they
01:11:57had
01:11:57a
01:11:57DNA
01:11:57match
01:11:58I
01:11:58was
01:11:58shocked
01:11:59I
01:11:59was
01:11:59absolutely
01:12:00shocked
01:12:00I
01:12:04got
01:12:04a
01:12:04call
01:12:04from
01:12:05our
01:12:05case
01:12:06agent
01:12:06and
01:12:06they
01:12:08were
01:12:08bringing
01:12:08up
01:12:08Alan
01:12:09Wade
01:12:09Wilmer
01:12:09and
01:12:10it
01:12:10was
01:12:10just
01:12:10like
01:12:11oh
01:12:11my
01:12:11god
01:12:12oh
01:12:12my
01:12:13god
01:12:13our
01:12:14family
01:12:14went
01:12:14through
01:12:14so
01:12:15much
01:12:15freaking
01:12:16heartache
01:12:16and pain
01:12:17wondering
01:12:17what
01:12:18happened to
01:12:18my
01:12:18brother
01:12:19you know
01:12:19and come
01:12:20to find
01:12:20out
01:12:20they
01:12:20had
01:12:20the
01:12:21right
01:12:21guy
01:12:21the
01:12:21whole
01:12:21freaking
01:12:22time
01:12:22when you
01:12:24talk
01:12:25about
01:12:25anger
01:12:25there
01:12:26has
01:12:26been
01:12:27like
01:12:2735
01:12:28years
01:12:29worth
01:12:29of
01:12:29anger
01:12:30it's
01:12:30just
01:12:30it's
01:12:31maddening
01:12:32there
01:12:32he
01:12:32was
01:12:32in
01:12:32the
01:12:33very
01:12:33beginning
01:12:33I'm
01:12:35still
01:12:35angry
01:12:35about
01:12:36it
01:12:36to
01:12:36this
01:12:36day
01:12:36I
01:12:37thought
01:12:37it
01:12:37was
01:12:37outrageous
01:12:38they
01:12:39told
01:12:39my
01:12:39family
01:12:40they
01:12:40were
01:12:40looking
01:12:41at
01:12:41Waterman
01:12:41this
01:12:42is
01:12:42that
01:12:43guy
01:12:44is
01:12:44he
01:12:45responsible
01:12:45for
01:12:46Kathy
01:12:47and
01:12:47Becky
01:12:47murder
01:12:48as
01:12:49well
01:12:49it
01:12:53always
01:12:54makes
01:12:54me
01:12:54wonder
01:12:54could
01:12:55law
01:12:55enforcement
01:12:55have
01:12:56prevented
01:12:56the
01:12:57things
01:12:57that
01:12:57followed
01:12:58the
01:12:59deaths
01:12:59the
01:13:00loss
01:13:00of
01:13:00life
01:13:00the
01:13:02FBI
01:13:02decided
01:13:03that
01:13:04impasse
01:13:04and
01:13:04a
01:13:05polygraph
01:13:05was
01:13:06enough
01:13:07to
01:13:07say
01:13:07he's
01:13:08not
01:13:08the
01:13:09one
01:13:09the
01:13:10decision
01:13:10was
01:13:11made
01:13:11and
01:13:12that
01:13:13wasn't
01:13:13made
01:13:14by
01:13:14me
01:13:14I
01:13:16can't
01:13:16say
01:13:16we
01:13:16let
01:13:16him
01:13:16go
01:13:17but
01:13:18we
01:13:19didn't
01:13:20do
01:13:20enough
01:13:20I
01:13:21would
01:13:21have
01:13:21done
01:13:22anything
01:13:22threatened
01:13:23him
01:13:23anything
01:13:24else
01:13:25to
01:13:25try
01:13:26to
01:13:26get
01:13:26him
01:13:26to
01:13:26admit
01:13:26to
01:13:27it
01:13:27but
01:13:27I
01:13:27don't
01:13:27think
01:13:27he
01:13:28was
01:13:28the
01:13:28kind
01:13:28of
01:13:28person
01:13:28that
01:13:29would
01:13:29he
01:13:30passed
01:13:31a
01:13:31polygraph
01:13:31but
01:13:32so
01:13:32what
01:13:32he
01:13:33also
01:13:34happens
01:13:34to
01:13:34be
01:13:34a
01:13:34sociopath
01:13:35so
01:13:35he
01:13:36doesn't
01:13:36react
01:13:36thus
01:13:38a
01:13:38polygraph
01:13:38is
01:13:39useless
01:13:39he's
01:13:40not
01:13:40capable
01:13:41of
01:13:41emotion
01:13:42someone
01:13:44like
01:13:44Wilmer
01:13:44I
01:13:46killed
01:13:47two
01:13:47people
01:13:47today
01:13:48big
01:13:49deal
01:13:49that's
01:13:51what
01:13:52makes
01:13:52him
01:13:52so
01:13:52dangerous
01:13:53why
01:13:56is
01:13:57there
01:13:57only
01:13:57a
01:13:57DNA
01:13:58hit
01:13:58on
01:13:58one
01:13:59case
01:13:59when
01:14:00there
01:14:00are
01:14:00four
01:14:00double
01:14:01murders
01:14:01that
01:14:01everyone
01:14:02says
01:14:02are
01:14:02connected
01:14:03one
01:14:04one
01:14:04possible
01:14:04answer
01:14:05is
01:14:05no
01:14:05evidence
01:14:06contained
01:14:07any
01:14:07perpetrator
01:14:08DNA
01:14:08robin
01:14:12and david's
01:14:13murder
01:14:13that is
01:14:14the
01:14:14only
01:14:15one
01:14:16of the
01:14:16four
01:14:17that there
01:14:18was
01:14:18actual
01:14:19known
01:14:20DNA
01:14:20evidence
01:14:21so
01:14:25what
01:14:26is
01:14:26known
01:14:26about
01:14:27the
01:14:27four
01:14:27colonial
01:14:28parkway
01:14:28double
01:14:29homicides
01:14:29at the
01:14:31very
01:14:31beginning
01:14:31the
01:14:32FBI
01:14:32behavioral
01:14:33profilers
01:14:33said
01:14:34watermen
01:14:36the
01:14:37first
01:14:37three
01:14:3886
01:14:3987
01:14:4088
01:14:41all
01:14:41of them
01:14:42took
01:14:42place
01:14:43right
01:14:43against
01:14:45the
01:14:45water
01:14:45either
01:14:46the
01:14:47York
01:14:47River
01:14:47or
01:14:48the
01:14:48James
01:14:49River
01:14:49you're
01:14:50dealing
01:14:50with a
01:14:50creature
01:14:51from
01:14:51the
01:14:51Black
01:14:52Lagoon
01:14:52it's
01:15:00possible
01:15:01that
01:15:01in the
01:15:02first
01:15:02murder
01:15:02he
01:15:04spots
01:15:04Kathy
01:15:05and
01:15:05Rebecca
01:15:06and
01:15:08lovers
01:15:08land
01:15:09together
01:15:10in a
01:15:11car
01:15:11approaches
01:15:13them
01:15:13he
01:15:16strangles
01:15:16them
01:15:17and he
01:15:17slashes
01:15:18their
01:15:18throats
01:15:19they
01:15:21put
01:15:21them
01:15:21in
01:15:22Kathy's
01:15:22Honda
01:15:22soaked
01:15:23it
01:15:23in
01:15:23diesel
01:15:23fuel
01:15:24tried
01:15:24to
01:15:24burn
01:15:25it
01:15:25then
01:15:26he
01:15:26shoved
01:15:26it
01:15:26over
01:15:26the
01:15:27embankment
01:15:27assuming
01:15:28it
01:15:28would
01:15:28sink
01:15:28in
01:15:28the
01:15:29river
01:15:29and
01:15:29disappear
01:15:30his
01:15:31attempt
01:15:31at
01:15:31disposal
01:15:32is
01:15:32a
01:15:33disaster
01:15:33in
01:15:37the
01:15:37second
01:15:38killing
01:15:38David
01:15:39Knobling
01:15:39and
01:15:39Robin
01:15:39Edwards
01:15:40he
01:15:41sodomizes
01:15:42Robin
01:15:42Edwards
01:15:43and he
01:15:44shoots
01:15:44her
01:15:44in
01:15:44the
01:15:44back
01:15:45of
01:15:45the
01:15:45head
01:15:45David
01:15:47is
01:15:48shot
01:15:48in
01:15:48the
01:15:48shoulder
01:15:49and
01:15:51the
01:15:52back
01:15:52of
01:15:52the
01:15:52head
01:15:52they're
01:15:55thrown
01:15:55in
01:15:56the
01:15:56river
01:15:56assuming
01:15:57they'll
01:15:57float
01:15:57away
01:15:58but
01:15:59they
01:15:59wind
01:15:59up
01:15:59trapped
01:16:00under
01:16:00the
01:16:00embankment
01:16:01another
01:16:02failure
01:16:03however
01:16:04DNA
01:16:04this
01:16:05time
01:16:05remains
01:16:06behind
01:16:06which
01:16:08ultimately
01:16:08becomes
01:16:09his
01:16:09undoing
01:16:10by
01:16:12Keith
01:16:13and
01:16:13Cassandra's
01:16:14murder
01:16:14he
01:16:16had
01:16:16perfected
01:16:16his
01:16:17craft
01:16:17if
01:16:18this
01:16:19was
01:16:19his
01:16:19third
01:16:19murder
01:16:20he
01:16:20abducted
01:16:21and
01:16:21killed
01:16:21them
01:16:22threw
01:16:23them
01:16:23in
01:16:23the
01:16:23water
01:16:24he
01:16:27went
01:16:27out
01:16:27and
01:16:27he
01:16:27fished
01:16:28clammed
01:16:29oystered
01:16:30from
01:16:30that
01:16:31boat
01:16:31how
01:16:33hard
01:16:34would
01:16:35it
01:16:35have
01:16:35been
01:16:35to
01:16:36take
01:16:36them
01:16:36out
01:16:36on
01:16:37that
01:16:37boat
01:16:37and
01:16:39dispose
01:16:40of
01:16:40their
01:16:40bodies
01:16:41it
01:16:42would
01:16:42have
01:16:42been
01:16:42very
01:16:43easy
01:16:43the
01:16:47fourth
01:16:47murder
01:16:47Daniel
01:16:48Lauer
01:16:48and
01:16:49Anna
01:16:49Maria
01:16:50Phelps
01:16:50they
01:16:50are
01:16:51discovered
01:16:51miles
01:16:52away
01:16:52from
01:16:52the
01:16:53parkway
01:16:53my
01:16:54best
01:16:55speculation
01:16:55is
01:16:56they
01:16:56stopped
01:16:57at the
01:16:57eastbound
01:16:58rest
01:16:58area
01:16:59of
01:16:59New
01:16:59Kent
01:16:59that's
01:17:03where
01:17:03Wilmer
01:17:04took
01:17:04control
01:17:05of
01:17:05them
01:17:05and
01:17:09then
01:17:09they
01:17:09were
01:17:09carried
01:17:10to
01:17:10these
01:17:11two
01:17:11positions
01:17:11where
01:17:12they
01:17:12were
01:17:12found
01:17:12it
01:17:15seems
01:17:15he
01:17:15learns
01:17:16from
01:17:16his
01:17:16mistakes
01:17:17he
01:17:17gets
01:17:18better
01:17:18at
01:17:18disposing
01:17:19of
01:17:20remains
01:17:20but
01:17:22what
01:17:22is
01:17:22his
01:17:23deal
01:17:23about
01:17:24couples
01:17:25does
01:17:26he
01:17:26hate
01:17:27them
01:17:27what
01:17:28motive
01:17:28could
01:17:28there
01:17:28be
01:17:29maybe
01:17:30just
01:17:30a
01:17:30willingness
01:17:30to
01:17:31kill
01:17:31and
01:17:32perhaps
01:17:32that's
01:17:33the
01:17:33only
01:17:33motive
01:17:33he
01:17:33needs
01:17:34now
01:17:35we
01:17:36learned
01:17:36that
01:17:36Wilmer's
01:17:37sphere
01:17:38was
01:17:38even
01:17:38larger
01:17:39we
01:17:41now
01:17:42have
01:17:42some
01:17:43evidence
01:17:44that
01:17:44we
01:17:44can
01:17:44weigh
01:17:45against
01:17:45these
01:17:45other
01:17:46cases
01:17:46here
01:17:47we
01:17:47have
01:17:48Alan
01:17:48Wilmer
01:17:48we
01:17:49have
01:17:50him
01:17:50tied
01:17:50to
01:17:50the
01:17:50murder
01:17:51of
01:17:51Robin
01:17:51and
01:17:51David
01:17:52luckily
01:17:53we
01:17:53got
01:17:53DNA
01:17:54from
01:17:54that
01:17:54but
01:17:55that
01:17:55wasn't
01:17:56the
01:17:56only
01:17:56crime
01:17:57his
01:17:57DNA
01:17:57hit
01:17:58on
01:17:58he
01:17:59was
01:17:59tied
01:18:00to
01:18:00another
01:18:00murder
01:18:01of a
01:18:01lady
01:18:02in
01:18:02Hampton
01:18:02there
01:18:05was a
01:18:0629 year
01:18:06old
01:18:07woman
01:18:07named
01:18:07Teresa
01:18:08Howell
01:18:08who
01:18:09left
01:18:10the
01:18:10nightclub
01:18:11and
01:18:11disappeared
01:18:11she
01:18:13was found
01:18:13naked
01:18:14strangled
01:18:15and
01:18:15raped
01:18:16and
01:18:18the
01:18:18perpetrator
01:18:18DNA
01:18:19was
01:18:21none
01:18:21other
01:18:21than
01:18:22Ellen
01:18:22Wilmer
01:18:23Sr.
01:18:26We
01:18:27now
01:18:27know
01:18:27that
01:18:28he
01:18:28killed
01:18:28people
01:18:28that
01:18:28were
01:18:29alone
01:18:29so
01:18:29the
01:18:30net
01:18:30gets
01:18:30cast
01:18:30pretty
01:18:31wide
01:18:32to
01:18:32look
01:18:32at
01:18:32cases
01:18:33that
01:18:33this
01:18:33guy
01:18:34may
01:18:34have
01:18:34been
01:18:34involved
01:18:35with
01:18:35well
01:18:38it's
01:18:38always
01:18:38difficult
01:18:39to
01:18:39say
01:18:40what
01:18:40will
01:18:40happen
01:18:40now
01:18:41will
01:18:42the
01:18:42DNA
01:18:42science
01:18:43advance
01:18:44further
01:18:44will
01:18:45they
01:18:45be
01:18:46able
01:18:46to
01:18:46determine
01:18:47something
01:18:47from
01:18:47some
01:18:48of
01:18:48these
01:18:48cases
01:18:48to
01:18:49link
01:18:49him
01:18:50directly
01:18:50to
01:18:50the
01:18:51crime
01:18:51it's
01:18:52entirely
01:18:52possible
01:18:53prosecution
01:18:54will
01:18:54never
01:18:54occur
01:18:55you
01:18:55can't
01:18:55prosecute
01:18:56a
01:18:56dead
01:18:56guy
01:18:57but
01:18:58I
01:18:58hope
01:18:58he's
01:18:58facing
01:18:58some
01:18:59kind
01:18:59of
01:18:59judgment
01:19:00well
01:19:00you
01:19:00would
01:19:00hope
01:19:01so
01:19:01you
01:19:02would
01:19:02hope
01:19:02so
01:19:02perhaps
01:19:03he
01:19:03moved
01:19:03to
01:19:03a
01:19:04higher
01:19:04court
01:19:04if
01:19:07we
01:19:07had
01:19:07hindsight
01:19:08and
01:19:09law
01:19:09enforcement
01:19:09in general
01:19:10FBI
01:19:10State
01:19:11Police
01:19:11Isla
01:19:11White
01:19:12County
01:19:12Sheriff's
01:19:12Office
01:19:13this
01:19:14would
01:19:14have
01:19:14been
01:19:14handled
01:19:14different
01:19:15but
01:19:16the
01:19:16only
01:19:17answers
01:19:18we
01:19:19can
01:19:19really
01:19:19for
01:19:20sure
01:19:20give
01:19:20is
01:19:20to
01:19:20Miss
01:19:21Howell's
01:19:21family
01:19:22the
01:19:22Noblin
01:19:23family
01:19:23and
01:19:25the
01:19:25Edwards
01:19:26family
01:19:26the
01:19:31FBI
01:19:31and
01:19:31the
01:19:32Virginia
01:19:32State
01:19:32Police
01:19:33they
01:19:33have
01:19:33not
01:19:33stopped
01:19:34and
01:19:35I
01:19:35hope
01:19:35they
01:19:36can
01:19:36tie
01:19:37him
01:19:37to
01:19:38any
01:19:38and
01:19:38all
01:19:38of
01:19:39all
01:19:40these
01:19:40families
01:19:41deserve
01:19:42answers
01:19:43this
01:19:44completely
01:19:45destroyed
01:19:46my
01:19:46mother
01:19:46in
01:19:53one
01:19:54night
01:19:54she
01:19:54lost
01:19:55her
01:19:55only
01:19:56daughter
01:19:57her
01:19:57youngest
01:19:57child
01:19:58and
01:19:58her
01:19:58best
01:19:58friend
01:19:58this
01:20:00this
01:20:02is a
01:20:03solvable
01:20:03case
01:20:04all
01:20:04it
01:20:05takes
01:20:05is
01:20:05time
01:20:05attention
01:20:06and
01:20:06resources
01:20:07it's not
01:20:08something
01:20:09that we
01:20:09ever wanted
01:20:10to be
01:20:10burying
01:20:11a younger
01:20:11brother
01:20:12Keith
01:20:12was
01:20:13just
01:20:13starting
01:20:13out
01:20:14his
01:20:14life
01:20:14he
01:20:15had
01:20:15aspirations
01:20:16he
01:20:16was
01:20:17a good
01:20:17kid
01:20:18hated
01:20:21that
01:20:21he
01:20:21didn't
01:20:21have
01:20:22the
01:20:22opportunity
01:20:22to
01:20:23grow
01:20:23up
01:20:23you
01:20:24know
01:20:24and
01:20:24to
01:20:24have
01:20:24a
01:20:24family
01:20:25I
01:20:25mean
01:20:25that
01:20:26guy
01:20:26robbed
01:20:26Keith
01:20:27he
01:20:27robbed
01:20:28him
01:20:28of
01:20:28a
01:20:28whole
01:20:28entire
01:20:29life
01:20:29that
01:20:30was
01:20:31my
01:20:31big
01:20:31brother
01:20:31man
01:20:32you
01:20:32know
01:20:32doesn't
01:20:33get
01:20:33any
01:20:34tighter
01:20:34than
01:20:34that
01:20:34I
01:20:35mean
01:20:35it's
01:20:37not
01:20:37fair
01:20:37I
01:20:42missed
01:20:43so
01:20:43much
01:20:43with
01:20:43him
01:20:43so
01:20:46much
01:20:47I
01:20:48know
01:20:48my
01:20:48life
01:20:49would
01:20:49have
01:20:49been
01:20:49so
01:20:49much
01:20:49different
01:20:50if
01:20:50he
01:20:50was
01:20:50still
01:20:50in
01:20:50it
01:20:51God
01:20:53I
01:20:54wish
01:20:54he
01:20:54was
01:20:54still
01:20:54here
01:20:54some
01:21:00people
01:21:01never
01:21:01have
01:21:01to
01:21:01pay
01:21:02the
01:21:02bill
01:21:02for
01:21:03what
01:21:03they've
01:21:03done
01:21:03in
01:21:04their
01:21:04life
01:21:04they
01:21:05just
01:21:05crook
01:21:06like
01:21:07everybody
01:21:07does
01:21:08I'll
01:21:09be
01:21:09quite
01:21:10frank
01:21:10with
01:21:10you
01:21:10I
01:21:11hope
01:21:11there
01:21:11is
01:21:12a
01:21:12special
01:21:13special
01:21:14place
01:21:14in
01:21:14hell
01:21:15for
01:21:15this
01:21:15man
01:21:15and
01:21:16every
01:21:17day
01:21:17what
01:21:18he
01:21:18did
01:21:19to
01:21:19those
01:21:19kids
01:21:20is
01:21:20done
01:21:20to
01:21:21him
01:21:21for
01:21:22eternity
01:21:23then
01:21:24maybe
01:21:25it'll
01:21:27be
01:21:27a little
01:21:28bit
01:21:28of
01:21:28justice
01:21:29there
01:21:30was
01:21:30supposed
01:21:31to be
01:21:31justice
01:21:31and
01:21:32punishment
01:21:32not always
01:21:33the case
01:21:34Wilmer
01:21:35denied
01:21:36the
01:21:36hangman's
01:21:37noose
01:21:37however
01:21:38he died
01:21:38in his
01:21:39hovel
01:21:39of a
01:21:40trailer
01:21:40and
01:21:42turned
01:21:42into
01:21:42a
01:21:43puddle
01:21:43of
01:21:43DNA
01:21:44no
01:21:46one
01:21:47cared
01:21:47about
01:21:48Alan
01:21:48maybe
01:21:49Alan
01:21:49didn't
01:21:50either
01:21:50he
01:21:51cared
01:21:51about
01:21:51killing
01:21:52and
01:21:53he
01:21:53got
01:21:53pretty
01:21:53good
01:21:54at
01:21:54it
01:21:55so
01:22:04what
01:22:04kind
01:22:05of
01:22:05things
01:22:05were
01:22:05these
01:22:06voices
01:22:06saying
01:22:06to
01:22:07kill
01:22:08somebody
01:22:09there
01:22:12are
01:22:12people
01:22:12in
01:22:12this
01:22:12world
01:22:13who
01:22:13are
01:22:13patently
01:22:14evil
01:22:14my
01:22:15mind
01:22:16went
01:22:16to
01:22:17that
01:22:17someone
01:22:18took
01:22:18her
01:22:18someone
01:22:19is
01:22:19trafficking
01:22:20her
01:22:20you
01:22:21think
01:22:21you're
01:22:21gonna
01:22:21convince
01:22:22a
01:22:22jury
01:22:22that
01:22:23you
01:22:23don't
01:22:23have
01:22:23nothing
01:22:24to
01:22:24do
01:22:24with
01:22:24that
01:22:24I
01:22:25just
01:22:25felt
01:22:25like
01:22:25I
01:22:26gotta
01:22:26solve
01:22:26this
01:22:26case
01:22:27a
01:22:28lot
01:22:29of
01:22:29murderers
01:22:29are
01:22:30emotional
01:22:30when
01:22:31they
01:22:31take
01:22:31a
01:22:31life
01:22:32not
01:22:33him
01:22:33he's
01:22:35cold
01:22:35as
01:22:35ice
01:22:36how
01:22:38much
01:22:38worse
01:22:38will
01:22:38it
01:22:39be
01:22:39if
01:22:39we
01:22:39don't
01:22:39get
01:22:39who
01:22:39did
01:22:40this
01:22:40and
01:22:42I'm
01:22:43like
01:22:43what
01:22:44what do
01:22:45you
01:22:45mean
01:22:45they've
01:22:46been
01:22:46murdered
01:22:46we're
01:22:48not
01:22:48just
01:22:48the
01:22:48police
01:22:49we're
01:22:49the
01:22:49murder
01:22:49police
01:22:50when
01:22:51Kane
01:22:51busted
01:22:51a
01:22:52cap
01:22:52in
01:22:52Abel
01:22:52did
01:22:52he
01:22:52send
01:22:53a
01:22:53uniform
01:22:53to
01:22:53take
01:22:53the
01:22:54report
01:22:54no
01:22:54he
01:22:55sent
01:22:55a
01:22:55detective
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