Interrogation Raw Season 4 Episode 5

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00:00Okay, and I asked you just straight up, you didn't have anything to do with this, did you?

00:11I don't like that type of crap.

00:14You don't like the type of crap where people get gunned down?

00:18The couple was found shot to death on the porch of their Willard home.

00:22Did you know what she did?

00:24No, I didn't.

00:25Don't hold back now.

00:27You're not good at lying.

00:30This is a lot like a football game.

00:32We're the Chiefs.

00:33You're on a junior high team right now.

00:35You need to pick which team you're going to be on.

00:38Because if you don't do what's right, it's going to get brutal for you.

00:42You need to pick which team you're going to be on.

00:49You're on a junior high team.

00:52You're on a junior high team.

01:26When I arrived, there was two people on the front porch and blood everywhere.

01:36Both victims looked as though they had been shot and were obviously deceased.

01:43The reporting party told me that they had a daughter, so I wanted to check for more victims inside the house.

01:50She was found in the bathroom of the home, uninjured.

02:00Alex had several gunshot wounds to the head.

02:16Brianna had two gunshot wounds.

02:18Alex had an empty holster on his right side and a Glock handgun laying between them near his right hand.

02:30There was an idea that he might have expected that there was going to be a problem, that he was going to have to defend himself.

02:35It was fully loaded, so we knew it wasn't a murder weapon.

02:40But I noticed a large amount of 9mm shell casings in and around the victims' bodies.

02:47There was a police officer who lived near the crime scene who realized that he had a doorbell camera.

02:53When that was reviewed, it did find the gunshots of the attack at 121 a.m.

03:00I heard what sounded to be 10 gunshots in a cadence of five.

03:21A small break and then five more gunshots.

03:27None of them overlapped.

03:30This led me to believe that there was a single shooter.

03:39Someone else has surveillance cameras near their driveway.

03:44We were able to see a small economy-style vehicle around the same time as the murderers.

03:55We weren't able to see the license plate or the color of the vehicle because it was at night.

03:59But that was a big piece of evidence.

04:01So, the reason we're here is that the police received a report this morning, which concerns Alexander's house.

04:23I don't have a lot of details right now.

04:24I don't have a lot of details right now.

04:37So, just take a second to process that.

04:39That's a lot of information.

04:40She didn't say anything.

04:43She didn't ask about her daughter.

04:47She didn't ask any questions about the crime.

04:52Sometimes, the sound of silence speaks louder than a thousand words.

05:03Do you know anything about any of that?

05:05No, I was working all night.

05:12And you, just to be clear, what was your shift last night?

05:17Last night was 6 p.m. until 1.30-ish.

05:23We usually stay and hang out for a little bit.

05:25And when I got home, I was exhausted.

05:28Right.

05:28It didn't take long before I fell asleep.

05:30When was the last time you had any contact with Alex from Terry Steele?

05:37Sunday, October 18th was the last time I spoke to him.

05:41When I went home.

05:43And then have you had any contact with Rihanna?

05:45I've never even met her.

05:46Okay.

05:48She didn't seem shocked.

05:51She didn't seem worried or concerned.

05:53It was suspicious.

06:00Alex and Teresa were not on good terms.

06:11There were associated claims regarding mistreatment of their daughter

06:15that each was making against the other.

06:25There's a light going on.

06:27There we go.

06:27Good.

06:27Okay.

06:29Come seat.

06:30All right.

06:32And.

06:37See your agreement there.

06:41Yep.

06:42Let me show you the part.

06:43Sure.

06:47There is that part.

06:48Every Sunday at 8 a.m.

06:49He's supposed to bring her to me.

06:51I texted him and said, I'm here where we normally do the exchange.

06:54And he said, CPS is ordering him not to give the child over.

07:00He didn't say.

07:01I plan on also having him prosecuted for violating court order as well.

07:05I don't know what he's trying to accomplish with this.

07:09Okay.

07:10All right.

07:11Follow me.

07:11Okay.

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07:24And then there was a subpoena that was served on Teresa's phone number.

07:45Text messages were discovered between her and Mixie that appeared to be planning the homicide.

07:50Mixie was talking about needing to get her head in the right space for what's going to happen tomorrow,

08:03which was sent on Thursday when the homicide occurred overnight on Friday.

08:07Also, it had previous messages between her and Mixie.

08:12Mixie is confronting Teresa and saying, you want me to kill someone?

08:19And Teresa seems like the mastermind.

08:21I think she realized Mixie was willing to do things for her and was able to manipulate Mixie

08:28into pulling the trigger and killing Alex and Brianna.

08:30When I think of Alex, the first word that comes to my mind is funny.

08:38His spirit was lighthearted, friendly.

08:43He was always ready with a kind word.

08:47In his youthful days, he was a little bit geeky.

08:51As he grew bigger, he became physically active and then followed, eventually, in my footsteps and joined the Army.

09:00No matter how big he got, he was still my little boy.

09:03Brianna was like a sister to me.

09:08She was pretty feisty.

09:10She was just going to take on the world and no one was going to tell her no.

09:14She worked three jobs just to be able to afford the house that she bought.

09:18She was so caring and she loved children.

09:22She talked about Alex's daughter as if she were her own.

09:26Alex and Brianna met at a pizza parlor and he said it was instant love.

09:33Alex just talked about his future with Bri and having other children.

09:38He was so happy.

09:56You probably heard about what happened up in Willard.

10:05I've heard a little bit.

10:07That's pretty much it.

10:08So you work with Teresa?

10:09Is that what it is?

10:10Yeah.

10:11So what happened Friday night then?

10:12You guys were working together?

10:13Yeah.

10:14She was there until, what was it?

10:161.30?

10:17Uh huh.

10:18Yeah.

10:191.30 and then went home.

10:22What time did you guys close that night?

10:24Uh, I didn't get out of there until 4 o'clock.

10:27Did her girlfriend show up that day?

10:29Not that I remember.

10:32Okay.

10:33Is there anything different about Teresa that Friday night?

10:36No.

10:37She, I mean, she was upset because she couldn't see her kid.

10:47Matt told me that tree was with him until they all left at 4.10.

10:53And her girlfriend got there about like 2.

10:56Oh my God.

10:57Interesting.

11:03So Matt said to the police that Teresa went home after work.

11:08And Matt told you Teresa hung out with him all night.

11:12And then he took her home.

11:14I don't know why he would have said opposite things, but tree was there just as late as he was.

11:25Her girlfriend didn't get there until, um, a little earlier before they left.

11:31Okay, so you're 100% sure that Matt took, um, Teresa and her girlfriend home.

11:40Yeah.

11:42It was obvious that someone was lying.

11:45It did not seem like Ariel was in any way involved in this.

11:52But we believed that Matthew Plum could be hiding something.

11:59Hi.

12:00How are you?

12:01Hi, how are you?

12:02How are you?

12:03How are you?

12:04Hi, how are you?

12:05Thanks for coming in, brother.

12:06Not a problem.

12:07I'm Shannon Shipley.

12:08I'm the son that called you on the phone.

12:09Um, I appreciate you coming in.

12:10Um, okay.

12:11Um, so, um, I'm going to ask you just straight up.

12:16Bet you didn't have anything to do with this, did you?

12:32my daughter katie i heard her crying in the living room pretty uncontrollably and i heard

12:48her move closer to my bedroom just screaming crying she's like mom sit down sit down it's

12:55alex and she goes he's dead you could have just knocked me over with a feather it was the worst day

13:06of my life you might know that i talked to ariel on on saturday some of the things that she told me

13:24you told her versus what you told the other officers didn't quite match did she tell you

13:31that a little bit a little bit and so friday what happened friday night trees that her car was

13:36breaking down she came in and told me that she had to let it sit because the transmission was

13:42overheating or getting hot or something i don't i didn't really

13:47did you ever listen to somebody say their transmission's hot ever in your life somebody

13:54said my transmission's really hot that's it kind of okay no it's kind of funny to me but i just let

14:03it go and went on with my job what i'm taking is she just didn't want to drive no more because she

14:08wasn't getting very good tips or whatever she just wanted to work inside what happened she was doing

14:14doing my dough prep uh helping me clean up every once in a while she'd make a couple pizzas and

14:20then around 12 30 one o'clock we got one last delivery and my closing driver took that one and

14:29and then she left each time he would tell even a small lie he would kind of wave his light off by

14:46giving me the hand signal i just lied to you whenever he gave me that signal i knew to keep following that

14:54trail so there were no visitors that night correct not that i remember there was one time her

15:05girlfriend came up there but i didn't see her after that that's a visitor that was like around

15:10five o'clock that afternoon so between two and four ten when you checked out nobody came by

15:18not that i remember because like i said i was busy doing everything what happened then my nephew had

15:28my truck and i called him to come pick me up when i was able to get off work my nephew took me home

15:37apparently tree and her girlfriend was at my house i got there and they were there they just showed up at

15:46your house in the middle of the night they walked over something i don't know but she lives 30 minutes

15:52away so how would she show up on foot that doesn't make sense i didn't ask

15:58don't hold back anymore because i can see you i can see you are you're not you may think so but you're

16:08not good at lying he really wants to keep lying and i keep cutting him off i want him to

16:16know i only want to hear the truth and as i keep pursuing that it pushes him into a corner

16:22to make a decision is it time to tell the truth am i going to be able to get out of this

16:28so i took them home so i can go to bed

16:32hmm you forgot that you took them home yeah i was that's a big thing to forget

16:39i was sleepy tired i was so tired anyway i didn't even remember sure

16:45and uh so how was uh theresa and uh her girlfriend acting

16:53actually just like i think norman was i mean she was upset about her car but at the head

16:59yesterday you and i had a conversation on your porch remember what i told you when we were standing

17:05there what did i tell you to be completely honest with you you like football oh yeah okay

17:11so this is a lot like a football game and what we're doing we're the chiefs

17:16theresa and mixy are on a junior high team right now

17:19you need to pick which team you're going to be on because it's going to get brutal for you

17:26if you don't do what's right i'm not choosing their team you had conversations with them that

17:32you're not telling us that's not true that's not true regular people when you tell them that

17:40they're lying will get very upset nobody wants to be called a liar it doesn't bother him one bit

17:46because he knows it's true if there's something you think you're going to be in trouble for

17:50you need to be the first one to talk about it because the first person that talks gets the best deal

17:55whatever's in your mind right now you need to tell us

18:01mixy showed up at work right around

18:09two o'clock just after tree left she was a little bit nervous about something she was

18:16distraught i told her to sit down and i'll see if i can find tree how do you know she's looking for

18:24theresa because i put two and two together on that what did mixy tell you she was saying

18:31something about she did something horrible did you already know did you know what she did no i

18:37didn't you put two and two together i didn't know i'm hoping she didn't i don't like that type of crap

18:44you don't like the type of crap where people get gunned down no i don't yeah i don't like that

18:49either i think there's a lot more to this conversation than you're letting us know still

18:53she didn't really tell me is it because you already knew what she did she didn't have to tell you

18:59do you know it was going to happen that was a yes that was yes it was okay so you already knew

19:04you're worried you're worried you're going to be in trouble because you knew it was going to happen

19:17you didn't do anything you tell this lady exactly what happened and don't hold back now this is it

19:24the head goes down and we know that he's getting ready to give us some significant information

19:35but he's having a hard time saying it yes absolutely not in here you gotta go outside

19:42the cigarette break it's a calculated risk could it be a chance for a person to decide that they don't

19:51want to do this anymore yes but sometimes leaving the interview room is also a stress reducer

19:58about two weeks ago before this happened okay

20:07asking me i knew where she could get a throwaway

20:12talk about theresa yeah okay i told her no i don't sure

20:18about a day later she tells me that she has a gun she was upset about everything going on right

20:29um

20:31and then she started talking to me about

20:37wanting to do it on a certain day i'm like well if you're actually going to do it

20:45do it but i don't really want involved if you're going to be at work hey there's your alibi right

20:54i'm same one on tip so i was going with the alibi so why did bixie come back to the store

21:03because that was you that was the plan i guess for her to borrow tree's car

21:10but go do it come back to the store and then pick tree up come up get the car and go home

21:19what did they do it again that i can't even know teresa was looking for a way that she could

21:26carry out the homicides and avoid any consequences you can see that in the setting up the alibi with

21:34matt plum she manipulates all the pieces she didn't care who even among her friends got hurt carrying out

21:41what she wanted to do

21:46okay

21:48so the plan was that something that you and teresa discussed teresa discussed with me the plan and was

21:57mixy any part of that plan that you heard that you saw or was it just you and teresa just me and tree

22:03okay so it was part of the plan then for mixy to do the terrible thing okay so teresa clocked in at

22:12what time i think it was six when tree coming in told me her car was messing out yeah her car wasn't

22:20messed up yeah right we know that she was she was doing deliveries and at like a certain point

22:30then she backed up and she stopped because because mixy took her car mixy didn't come back with the car

22:38until like 1 30. she went out got get it mixy come in that's when i was setting her come trying to calm her down

22:47keep her out of the way i asked her what what it was but and she told you because you knew the plan i

22:55i couldn't under i couldn't understand what she was saying because she was so hysterical and stuff

23:00but she did calm down she calmed down a little bit

23:02she told me that

23:04she killed him

23:07she killed him

23:09or

23:11i guess she doesn't she killed both of them

23:14and mixy didn't tell you how they got on the porch

23:16i

23:17didn't ask

23:19i didn't even want to know

23:21because it was already too much for me

23:25did they ask you no

23:27i told them not no

23:29now that you now that you're you know telling the truth and being honest

23:33you know omission is a form of deceit too

23:37so if you've not told us stuff that we're going to find out that's that would be bad

23:42the gps is going to show that i went driving around before i went home

23:48just to clear my mind

23:52where'd you go

23:52i went to rutledge ridge uh walkways

23:56and i sat out there for a while

23:58what'd you do

24:01i just sat in the truck

24:02what were you thinking about

24:05why i even

24:10agreed to it

24:12there's something more

24:15go ahead and hit me with it

24:16i think i'm sorry what is it

24:17i told theresa if you wanted to get rid of a gun

24:20rutledge wilson was

24:23a good place to go

24:25that's why i drove down there

24:27to see

24:28make sure she wasn't down there

24:30rutledge wilson farm park

24:35is a working farm that is a park in springfield

24:40it's heavily covered with trees and foliage

24:43a good place to dump a murder weapon

24:46if you get rid of the gun

24:49tell us now

24:50i didn't get rid of it

24:52okay well here's the thing

24:54if mixy trees

24:55say anything like hey look

24:57i gave him the gun to get rid of

24:59that's gonna be bad

25:01dude if you took that gun

25:03i get it

25:03i understand that

25:05other people will understand that

25:07but what they won't understand is

25:08if you went all this way

25:09and then didn't come clean 100%

25:12if you got rid of the gun

25:14please don't hold back

25:16if you did that

25:17okay so mixy did she use it again when she came in or what i don't know how it ended up in my truck

25:38you just saw your truck

25:39yeah i found it

25:40yeah i found it

25:40where was it

25:41it was sitting underneath my back passenger seat

25:45hmm

25:46okay

25:47and you know where it's at now

25:49i saw you exactly where it's at

25:50is it outside

25:52it's in the water

25:54it's in the water

25:56okay

25:56well we can go for a ride

25:59you can show us where you pitched it

26:00would that be okay

26:02you were gonna be in some trouble

26:07okay

26:07but dude i'm telling you right now

26:10honesty

26:10helps you

26:12what kind of trouble am i looking at

26:14it depends

26:16you're being helpful now

26:17we got in the car

26:21and matt took us to the location where he had thrown both the gun and the magazine

26:27as soon as we were at the location the missouri state highway patrol dive team was able to locate the gun

26:37the firearm matched the serial number that uh theresa cox had reported as stolen

26:43finding the gun was big

26:45it was a direct tie of the murder weapon back to theresa cox

26:49the evidence showed that he aided theresa with the intent to further the homicide

27:00she was able to manipulate matt plum into disposing of the murder weapon

27:05theresa frankly is the mastermind it doesn't happen without her

27:09we learned there was a friend who had helped him buy hair dye and told the police that they were in fugitive mode

27:26it became apparent that theresa and mixy were on the run

27:30we learned they hitched a ride with the trucker into joplin and left the state

27:42we were offered aid from the u.s marshals

27:45they told me in no uncertain terms

27:50we will get your gun

27:54we obtained a search warrant for theresa cox's residence

28:01we located a portable safe in the closet

28:05we found the smith and wesson handgun magazine

28:09the casings had s and b 9 by 19 20

28:14the same head stamp found at the crime scene

28:16also we received information from theresa cox's phone

28:20her internet search history was showing things like

28:22what's the easiest way to kill people

28:24how do you report a gun stolen

28:26and then you also have things about how to go on the run

28:29she had searches for alexander shoots and brianna sprawl's residence

28:33which showed 41 photos of their house

28:36it seemed that she had been planning the murders for quite some time

28:40theresa had a 2014 red chevy spark

28:54which has a very distinctive profile

28:57when i looked at the vehicle in the video

29:01it looked exactly like a chevy spark

29:05our case is going from a very very strong circumstantial evidence case

29:12to a hard evidence case

29:13at that point

29:30mixy's taken into custody

29:32and the marshals reach out to let our office know

29:35that they also had theresa

29:36theresa didn't want to speak without her lawyer present

29:51and so an interview with theresa wasn't ever established

29:54but mixy was willing to speak with us

29:58we wanted to establish more evidence against theresa that theresa was pressuring mixy to do this

30:12um a lot has gone down in a little bit of time

30:16and everybody is scared

30:20everybody is pointing at you mixy

30:24you are going to have one opportunity to put your side of the story out there

30:30people that you thought were your friends

30:34are not your friends

30:35they are all scared and they are all singing like canaries

30:39all right

30:41they want you to take the whole heat for this

30:45and i know thats not true

30:48right now you are the only advocate for yourself

31:04i am not supposed to say anything

31:13you are kind of at a crossroads

31:15where you have to make a decision for yourself

31:18do you want to protect matt and tree

31:22or do you want to clarify how this thing came to birth

31:26i already got everybody else's side of it

31:30and i know that if it wasn't for pressure from tree

31:37this thing would have never happened

31:39would have never happened

31:43so you tell me what you want to do

31:48there ain't nothing i can say

31:53what kind of relationship do you and theresa have

31:57my best friend

32:00any more than that

32:02a lot more i mean

32:05i loved her

32:07do you still love theresa

32:09yes

32:11that's never going to change

32:14and i miss tree

32:16just one thing is to be back to normal

32:20i don't believe that normal is coming back

32:25um tell me about

32:27the pressure

32:28that you were being placed under by theresa

32:31i don't want to

32:33go into any of this

32:35and i'm still confused about a lot of things

32:39are you confused about um how you got drug into this

32:46a lot of times yeah

32:48how do you think you got drug into this

32:50i don't know

32:54it was going to be a battle getting mixy to roll on theresa because she was so in love with her

33:04so i'm going to have to change to focus on matthew's participation

33:09i don't want to waste your time

33:12i already wrote the reports

33:14nothing about this

33:16thing is pleasant

33:17what i need is a confirmation

33:20that um matt is being truthful in what he's saying because he's throwing everybody he can under the bus

33:28to um get himself some kind of sweetheart deal right now

33:33i don't think anybody's going to be truthful in this situation

33:37you're probably right

33:38are you

33:40i have no reason to lie

33:43why is that

33:45i just don't i'm not a liar

33:47then i guess

33:48it comes down to

33:50what part did everybody play in this

33:54i guess that's the part that nobody knows then

33:58all of a sudden

34:01i don't want to do this conversation anymore

34:04okay

34:05that's all right

34:06but

34:07you're screwing yourself

34:10as long as terese okay

34:12terese is not going to be okay

34:16let her know i love her

34:17mikxie was done talking that day

34:29but didn't close the door for subsequent interviews

34:32reviews are you cold no i'm just shaking okay i'm just shaking okay

35:02can i ask you what pronouns you like to go by she her and if there's something you don't

35:07want to answer you don't have to answer i guess you can stop at any time you want i guess i'll

35:12chitchat for a little bit all right uh so uh when did you meet theresa mixing early july

35:20she just saw me sitting there by myself one day and she came up there she sat down and started

35:25talking to me and uh you know she admitted to me that people said to kind of steer clear of me

35:31because i was weird and she didn't really want to listen to him she wouldn't give me a chance

35:36so that's where we started we became pretty good friends from there thank you so i wanted to show

35:43her that i was professional and that she was being respected i want her to fill at ease after that

35:50then i can ask direct questions i did choir for a little bit i don't know i'm interested

35:55for a very good student art was really my only good subject

35:59i think you have a story that people don't understand

36:04i'm reading stuff on facebook and people are saying negative stuff about you they're saying

36:11really rotten stuff about you and i don't think they know the whole story and i don't think it's fair

36:16i don't know anything about any of that how did you find out that alex had been killed

36:34no sir okay do you know who did no sir i don't know anything about any of that how did you find

36:45out that alex had been killed the news what did it make you feel i didn't know what to feel

36:53with alex i had asked teresa before if i could get to know him but she uh i never really got the

37:00opportunity to why not she said he wasn't trustworthy and was a bad guy and so i was wanting

37:07to eventually sit down and get all whatever their bad blood was worked out but it just never worked

37:15out that way and why was there blood between them she told me a lot of things she told me he used to

37:23beat on her and he'd tell everybody it was because he had ptsd you ever think to yourself i wish alex

37:29would just go away no it was not my place to think things like that did teresa think that

37:36i don't know i mean she didn't like him teresa took every opportunity to sway people to maneuver

37:47their feelings about alex to cause him to be a villain in their eyes and to favor her

37:57why do you think someone would harm alex i don't know why was someone harm brian i have no clue why

38:07someone let her if you had to name the real true victims in all this who do you think the real true

38:12victims are i have no clue i don't know how to answer that question i'm sorry

38:18it makes you tell me why you could have done this

38:22because it's just not me it's just not a thing that i'm willing to do

38:31for someone that had no involvement it's a real quick answer i didn't do it because i wasn't in

38:38willard uh because i had no ill will against alex uh because i had no firearm but if they did do it

38:45they have to convince you that they weren't part of this and at this point mixy waffles a little bit

38:51i was out getting drunk with my friends anyway who were you drinking with that night

38:57i think i'm done with questions i just want to go back up to myself

39:05there was a recording that brianna took on her cell phone on the night of the murder

39:32you can hear her talking to someone i recognize the voice to be mixy's voice

39:37um i can call him if you want to do that

39:54i just try to reveal it to you guys in person let me call him and see when he's going to be home

40:00mixy was luring alex back home he was originally supposed to work from 4 p.m till midnight but he

40:08left an hour early he told a co-worker that his girlfriend brianna was alone and he was afraid for

40:13her and that's why he had a handgun on him that the crime scene

40:17the first of three suspects charged with killing a willard couple has pleaded guilty to his role in

40:25the double murder matthew plump took a deal from prosecutors and pleaded guilty to conspiracy to

40:30commit a felony and tampering with evidence

40:44i just want to begin by saying i'm sorry to the pain and i'm sorry to alex and brandon

40:51knew what was wrong on the way there i was asking myself what the hell am i doing

40:55theresa cox pleaded guilty to first degree murder second degree murder and two counts of

41:04armed criminal action cox addressed the court but didn't show any remorse while she was being

41:10sentenced she was making claims that whatever she did she did for the daughter i love her and

41:15everything i've ever done is to give her the best life i could her safety security and happiness are

41:20ready forever in this life as for the future i wish to pursue her dreams and have the utmost success

41:28lastly i hope she and i will have a relationship no matter where where we are both at if she so

41:34desires thank you cox was sentenced but not before shoot's family said their piece i couldn't believe

41:40that she was capable of something that suffice to say she is the face of evil my one wish is that she

41:48gets everything she deserves and more because she is a psychopath

41:57teresa cox was pure evil she was somehow able to convince her co-workers to carry out murder but

42:09we were able to bring some measure of justice to the family

42:20we get to keep a little piece of him alive through her

42:25that was alex's baby girl and he loved her so much all brianna wanted to do was love her like she

42:32was her own i miss so much about brianna i miss everything about her

42:41alex's birthday is on veterans day and we gather together on that day and have a toast in alex's name

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