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00:00Jason in Oakland is next. Hi, Jason. Thank you for the call.
00:04Willard, Dibbs, what's going on? Hopefully y'all having a cool afternoon.
00:08Yes, sir.
00:09This is what I want to say.
00:12If Matt Jones starts on Thursday, and I want you guys honest opinion.
00:16I know we fans are pretty. He took us to the championship in Super Bowl.
00:21He had some good early seasons, but it seems like he's regressing.
00:2516 interceptions, 1-5 in these last couple of games. Come on, man.
00:31I know, Willard, you like Purdy a little bit, but it's starting to look like he's regressing.
00:36And this is what I want to ask you specifically, Willard.
00:40If Matt Jones wins this next game against St. Louis, I mean, not saying L.A. wins.
00:47Against L.A., yep.
00:49We win this game, Willard.
00:51Do you go back to Purdy if he's healthy the following week?
00:57Oh, my God.
00:58Want me to answer it real quick or super-duper quick?
01:01Jason, there is absolutely, unequivocally, no semblance of a quarterback controversy
01:09in this city or on this team.
01:12And that's not just my opinion.
01:14I promise you that is the way this organization views it after the contract
01:18that they just gave him.
01:19When Brock Purdy is healthy, he will go.
01:23And one loss.
01:24I mean, one loss does not change that.
01:28And quite frankly, with all due respect, Jason, I think it's wild that that would even come up
01:32after one loss.
01:33They're 3-1.
01:35You know he won 1-5 in the last six games.
01:39You know that.
01:40It doesn't matter.
01:41I mean, now you're going into last year, which was a completely different scenario
01:45and a team that wasn't playing for anything and a defense that was totally awful.
01:51I always, and look, you're not wrong, Jason.
01:54Of course, you're not wrong.
01:55They're 1-5.
01:56Okay.
01:57You know that, right?
01:57It is six games.
01:58You know that.
01:59But we, like, we can always do this where we pick a certain number of games and then
02:05go, hey, for the last, you know, like the last eight Thursdays, this has happened.
02:12It's like, okay, are they down a little bit with all the injuries and the problems they're
02:17facing?
02:17No doubt.
02:18Has he been great?
02:19No.
02:20But I am not, like, you don't build 53 million a year in a five-year contract on a six-game
02:25run.
02:25He's actually 2-4 in his last six because he didn't play that last game of the year
02:30last year.
02:31That was, I think that was a Dobbs production.
02:34But if you go back to his last eight starts, he's 2-6.
02:38Okay.
02:38Yeah, no, it has not been good.
02:40It has not been good.
02:41And it is not all Brock.
02:43But it has not been good.
02:45But no, there's no, there's no quarterback controversy.
02:48Jason, thank you.
02:49You know, like, yeah, Brock Purdy, is he struggling?
02:52Or are we needing to sort of readjust how we view him?
02:56Do you think he's regressing?
02:57We can have all these conversations.
03:00But there's no quarterback controversy.
03:02I agree.
03:02And I think it's hilarious that they would score 16 points against Arizona last week.
03:07And somebody would come out of that and be like, Mac Jones, let's do that for the next
03:11few years.
03:12Come on.
03:13Like, seriously.
03:14Come on.
03:15Can we just look at the play of Brock Purdy relative to what we've seen him do and relative
03:21to how we've seen him play well?
03:23Let's do it.
03:24And even if you take the numbers out of it and you just look at the eye test, you mentioned
03:28his lack of a desire to run yesterday might be the toe.
03:33What I'm seeing, not only in this game, but in his earlier start and going back to some
03:38last year, he just isn't stepping forward and ripping the ball.
03:42It's not the elbow anymore.
03:43Maybe it's the foot.
03:44But he can't push off and he can't really get a lot of mustard on the ball.
03:48And it makes it hard to really be consistent and effective when you're just floating the
03:53ball around a lot.
03:54888-957-9570.
03:57How about Scott in Marin?
03:58Hi, Scott.
03:59Thank you for calling.
04:00What you doing?
04:02Hey, how you guys doing?
04:04You know, it always cracks me up when a 49er loss is the best, man.
04:09You get all the nuts coming out of the woodwork.
04:12I mean, you judge Brock Purdy, you know, to say he, that guy's argument that he had on
04:18earlier was a joke.
04:19And you argued the right points against it.
04:22But to say Mac Jones, you prefer Mac Jones, Mac Jones would have got killed yesterday out
04:27there.
04:27You know, I mean, it's just, and Brock is definitely not healthy.
04:32You can see that.
04:32I think it's 100% the reason why those balls were floating.
04:36Despite everything, at three turnovers up to the last possession, they were in position
04:45to win that game.
04:46Despite the special teams being an absolute disaster.
04:50And if Brock protects the ball in that last possession, I have no doubt that he wins that
04:55game.
04:56That's my feeling.
04:57And I'm telling you that the guy I was shocked about, I haven't really seen him much, is Trevor
05:04Lawrence.
05:05He tried to give that game away, I don't know how many different ways.
05:09Yeah.
05:09And you're going to tell me that guy?
05:10Well, just one way.
05:12I mean, the way he tried to give it away was by sliding out of bounds when he could have
05:16kept the clock running.
05:17No, he's just not that impressive.
05:19I mean, he's just, you know, again, like on a day, and Scott, thank you, on a day where
05:24he had no sacks and no hits.
05:26It's just, yeah, it's just not that impressive.
05:29He's not awful.
05:30I never thought he was awful.
05:31But there's no envy there.
05:34He's just, he's a game manager.
05:36Purdy versus Trevor Lawrence.
05:37I have no envy whatsoever.
05:39I just questioned some of the decisions that Trevor was making in a couple of the throws,
05:44and he got away with two of them that were batted, tipped, and could have been intercepted.
05:49Stout did intercept the one, but it was called back for pass interference, which was a little
05:54bit of a tiki-tac call, I can readily admit it, as a guy who loves the refs.
05:58That was one where the eyebrow kind of goes up.
06:01But Trevor Lawrence, just 21 of 31, 174, and a touchdown.
06:06And I want everyone to do me a favor and look up Jalen Hurts and his numbers and see
06:13how Philadelphia is winning these games.
06:16Philadelphia is undefeated, and they won yesterday with about 240 yards of total offense.
06:22Jalen Hurts is kind of in the Trevor Lawrence mode, where he has two amazing receivers, and
06:28they don't really throw the ball very often.
06:30Well, but he does.
06:31There's such a presence to Jalen Hurts on the field.
06:33They do things a different way, so statistically, it's always going to look a little bit different.
06:37I mean, I try not to get overwhelmed with the stats, because quite frankly, if you do want
06:42to just dive stats, then you'd come out of last year and be like, this Mahomes guy sucks.
06:46Like, if you just were looking at stats.
06:48He did not have a good year last year.
06:50But some guys have a...
06:52This is actually what I think...
06:53If somebody really wanted to have a rational criticism of Brock Purdy, this is what you would
06:59say about him.
07:00When I watch him play, he does not have the presence of some of the other QBs around the
07:07league that, like, make you feel confident.
07:11I disagree with that.
07:13Yeah, I mean...
07:13At times, he absolutely does.
07:15At times.
07:16But, like...
07:16Right now, he does not.
07:17No, but the great quarterbacks, there's never...
07:19Like, even when Mahomes was having a wonky year, when the ball's in his hands, you're like,
07:24oh, right?
07:25Like, boom.
07:27Pow.
07:28No, like, the presence.
07:29Jalen Hurts, to me, the way he moves around the field, it feels very under control.
07:34He's got a wonderful running game, a wonderful offensive line, a great defense.
07:38Like, he's got all of these things working around with him, and he's able to handle that.
07:43Brock is not someone, and I don't even know how many of these there are.
07:46Like, he's not someone who is going to go out there and be like, look, everything around
07:50me is going bad, but it doesn't matter.
07:52You've got me.
07:53So, like, that's maybe one, two, three guys, maybe.
07:56Well, there's other guys...
07:58Even Lamar.
07:58Like, everything's going on around him.
08:00How are we doing?
08:00You're one and three.
08:01I look at Baker Mayfield as he's turned into that guy, and, you know, he's a guy who has
08:07led, what, three fourth quarter comebacks this year, or just two, and he doesn't always
08:12make the right play, and he doesn't always win, but he has that moxie, that self-confidence,
08:17that swagger out there, and I'm just not, I'm not seeing it from Brock, and I don't
08:22know if it's because he's not feeling confident because of the toe, but just the way he is
08:27going about delivering the ball at times, not all the time, and somebody earlier was saying,
08:33maybe it was that Johnny caller who was saying he didn't make any good throws, and, you know,
08:37I give him an F-minus or whatever, he made some big-time throws in that game.
08:42He connected with Pierce Hall a couple of times, a couple of throws he made that were
08:46dropped.
08:47Dropped.
08:47Yep.
08:48That was a huge throw to Kendrick Bourne.
08:49Yep.
08:50I mean, it might have been a game-changing throw, and he dropped it.
08:53He dropped it, and he took accountability for that.
08:55I loved Kendrick Bourne's interview afterward.
08:57He's like, we, you know, they're like, is your, like, chemistry with Brock off?
09:01He's like, well, let's start with, I need to catch the stupid ball.
09:04Right.
09:05Forget chemistry.
09:06Good answer.
09:07Good answer.
09:08We're talking it out.
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09:25Real quick, want to read this.
09:27Boxer and Gerson work injury attorney's text line.
09:29And I'm not trying to, like, I'm not trying to be sort of, like, combative on this.
09:33I just want to, like, here's what I'll say.
09:37408 just texted in and goes, come on now.
09:40If Mack plays great and wins the game against the Rams, there's going to be a QB controversy.
09:44So, maybe for you there will be.
09:50No, there won't be for the 49ers.
09:53I promise you that.
09:54And you can be mad at them for it, and you can call our station, and you can yell about it, and we'll take your call, and we'll all talk it out.
10:00Yes, maybe there will be lines of callers being like, Mack, Mack, Mack, like, maybe.
10:05I can promise you that the organization will not see it that way.
10:10I can promise you that.
10:12Like, you're not benching this guy before his $260 million contract even starts.
10:20Businesses don't do that.
10:21There's too much invested in all of this for them to have snap reactions like this with a quarterback.
10:28Can you imagine $265 million?
10:32And since that contract, he's lost a game.
10:36One game.
10:38If you all were going to bench him after one loss, well, again, as I've been saying all year,
10:44tell me you never really liked Brock in the first place without telling me that you never really liked Brock in the first place.
10:50And the organization would be the stupidest sports organization ever to hand out a contract like that to someone they were going to bench after he loses one game.
11:00It would be ballsy.
11:01And, you know.
11:02Wow.
11:02Depends on how much you want to win in this moment.
11:06And I can't remember what Alex Smith was making when Harbaugh, he got hurt, and he went to Kaepernick, and he was in love with Kaepernick.
11:15Kaepernick was his guy that he and Trent Baalke had drafted, and so he went to Kaepernick, and Kaepernick won and kept winning, and that was pretty much it for Alex Smith.
11:24The other one I was just thinking about, Mark, is when J.J. McCarthy comes back, Carson Wentz has looked pretty good as the backup, and when McCarthy's ready, I would imagine he goes right back into the starting spot.
11:37That one's a little fuzzier because I don't think they were loving the way he was playing, and I don't know how many of you slept through the game yesterday in Ireland.
11:47The final score made it look like Carson Wentz played well.
11:51He did not.
11:52The whole fourth quarter comeback against a soft defense when the game was already well in hand.
11:58His fantasy numbers were fine.
12:01That was not a good game for Carson Wentz.
12:03That did not make anybody want to keep Carson Wentz in the football game.
12:06He was bad in the first half of that football game.
12:08Yeah, I didn't see much of it.
12:10I set that alarm.
12:11Nice, 6.30.
12:13Well, I had one league that had Jalen Warren, and I was up in time to see the Schefter reboot of, whoopsie-daisy, he ain't playing.
12:21Oh, boy.
12:22And I'm going to get my guy out of my lineup.
12:24Smart.
12:24Yeah.
12:25But I'm crazy like that.
12:28I'm just a complete nerd about this.
12:30Alex Smith, his last contract with the Niners was a three-year, $27.7 million deal.
12:37Sounds like a lot.
12:37Yeah, he was making a little bit over $9 million when the Kaepernick stuff all took place.
12:42Yeah, so that was not, like, probably top of the market.
12:45This is now going back 12 or so years, right?
12:48We're talking 2013, 2014.
12:50There you go.
12:50So maybe that was a lot of money at that time.
12:53And it's all so different because, as I mentioned, Alex Smith was not drafted by Harbaugh, and Kaepernick was.
13:00So by the time he got to that spot, he had an opportunity to play his guy.
13:05And so I agree with you that even if they go to L.A. and they beat the Rams and Mack looks good, if Brock's toe is fine for Tampa, Brock starts.
13:13And there's really no conversation internally.
13:16We're not there yet.
13:17I don't even think we're close to that.
13:19Mike in San Diego.
13:20Hi, Mike.
13:20Thanks for the call.
13:21What's up?
13:23Hi.
13:23How are you guys doing?
13:24Rough Monday, right?
13:26Yeah, yeah.
13:26Oof.
13:27Yeah.
13:28I don't – I might not be able to convince all the audience, but I think I convinced some that Brock was still terrible but not as bad as it looked, or at least the box score was.
13:38Because you mentioned that drop to Bourne earlier while we're shooting across the field.
13:43That might be a touchdown.
13:45That's 60 extra yards, that first pick.
13:47Most running backs don't catch that, but Christian McCaffrey's not most running back.
13:53That definitely wasn't an interceptable ball, even if it wasn't catchable, if you get what I mean.
13:58I think people are overacting.
14:00It's one game.
14:01I think he'll be fine.
14:02Thanks, Mike.
14:04Walked it off.
14:05Bong.
14:06Yeah.
14:07It was an interceptable ball because it got intercepted.
14:10You know what he means by that.
14:11I do.
14:12Like, sometimes it's right in the receiver's hands.
14:16Like, I look at both Purdy interceptions as bad interceptions that are more than 50% his fault.
14:23But anytime there's a tipped ball, there is some unfortunate luck when it ends up picked off.
14:30I mean, the Niners had multiple tipped balls.
14:32They didn't get their hands on any.
14:33Right.
14:33That one was tipped by Christian McCaffrey.
14:35Yes.
14:36So, to me, a tipped ball is when it gets tipped at the line of scrimmage.
14:39The second interception was tipped at the line of scrimmage.
14:42That's a tipped ball.
14:43When you have a running back who just juggles it, that is a different category.
14:47That's a deflection or whatever.
14:49That would have been a great catch.
14:50Yes.
14:50My point has been that was an unnecessary throw.
14:53He had other options available, closer and safer.
14:57And he chose to throw late down the middle, which you know is a cardinal sin.
15:01You don't throw late down the middle.
15:03And he did, and he got burned.
15:04I know.
15:04But at the same time, it's like one of those, if you've got a half a yard less air on that
15:09ball, it's a big, big play.
15:12And I don't want my quarterback not going for big plays when they're there.
15:16And it was a tough play.
15:18It was not there.
15:19It hit him in the hands.
15:21It was behind him, and he was surrounded by Jaguars.
15:23It wasn't behind him.
15:24He's stretching for the ball, and we had a little too much air under it.
15:28Again, I'm giving Brock more than 50% of the blame.
15:31I give him 100% of the blame.
15:33I mean, look, that's the ball.
15:36It's first and 10.
15:37You just had the Pearsall big play.
15:40You don't need to try that.
15:42That was just, for me, that was stupid.
15:44It was a stupid choice.
15:45We love to do that.
15:46When they go short, dude, you're captain check down.
15:50When they go long, it's like you don't need to do that.
15:52When he was captain check down, they went to the Super Bowl.
15:54Last year, he aired it out more, and they went 6-11.
15:56You know he was not captain check down when they went to the Super Bowl.
15:59More so than last year.
16:00Last year, his air yards were way up.
16:03No, two years ago, yes, his air yards last year.
16:06Two years ago, he led the league in yards per attempt.
16:10You don't do that as captain check down.
16:12That was yards after catch, a lot of it.
16:13No.
16:14That was the Yak boys at their finest.
16:15Okay.
16:16That's taking a lot of credit from him that he deserves.
16:19James in the stack is next up.
16:22Hi, James.
16:22Thanks for the call.
16:24My goodness.
16:26Dillard and Whibs.
16:27Glad to hear from you guys.
16:29Let's ride.
16:29Show is good, but, you know, I'm kind of turned off.
16:33We should call you Mark Simpson because you're a little hummer right now, bro.
16:37Like, come on, you're talking about tip passes.
16:41He's a little short, bro.
16:42He can't throw over the top like a Mac could.
16:48And you're talking about his last record.
16:52He's 2-6.
16:53Come on.
16:54Like, come on.
16:54Keep it real.
16:55James, how am I a homer, and you're not a prisoner of the moment,
16:59that after four years of watching these two quarterbacks play,
17:03one of them has been to two NFC title games and a Super Bowl,
17:07and after one loss, you're going to call me
17:10and tell me that Mac Jones is better.
17:13Like, you've got to give me a break, James.
17:16For real.
17:16Mark, I'm not talking about one loss.
17:18I'm saying look at the last eight games.
17:20Why would I make it all about the last eight games?
17:23He's played for four years in this league and has had a lot of success.
17:27So why now is he too short?
17:29The touchdowns and turnovers, 29-24.
17:32Joe said it earlier, 29-24.
17:34Yep.
17:35That is terrible.
17:36That's James Winston territory, bro.
17:39It's not been great.
17:41Are you going to ignore all of the factors that are also a part of that?
17:46Are you really going to do that?
17:47I'm going to ignore it, but he had a better squad back then two years ago.
17:51His squad is not as good.
17:54That's how football works.
17:55Have you watched Lamar Jackson play this year?
17:57You can elevate him.
17:59Is Lamar Jackson elevating him?
18:03Well, he doesn't play defense.
18:05I mean, did Joe Burrow elevate his team to the playoffs?
18:08That's what I'm getting at.
18:10This is, to me, James, this can be a criticism of a player for you
18:14if you want it to be.
18:15It's not for me.
18:16I don't mind saying that a quarterback needs things to go well around him.
18:20They all do.
18:22That's not a criticism.
18:23This hero ball that we love to play of when everything's going wrong,
18:28your 50-something million dollar guy should go into a phone booth,
18:31change his outfit, come out, and just grab the organization
18:34and take him to the promised land by himself.
18:36This is some sort of cartoon that we're watching on Saturday morning, man.
18:41That doesn't exist.
18:43That doesn't exist.
18:44You are being a cherry picker to take Brock's stats in the last year plus two games
18:50where everything has gone wrong for this organization and blame it all on him.
18:55And you know it, James.
18:56You know it.
18:57Can you answer me this?
18:58What's the question?
18:59Can you answer me this?
18:59Of course I can.
19:01Is he $45 million better than Matt Jones?
19:06I would say no.
19:07Well, history would suggest yes, but I would also, my response to you would be,
19:13it's an irrelevant and sort of unfair question.
19:15That's not the position that either of them are in.
19:18So the question I would respond to you by asking, James,
19:22is would you rather the 49ers, rather than paying Brock $53 million a year,
19:27would you rather kind of go month to month?
19:31Kind of like, you know, do you want to rent it?
19:33Do you want to buy a house?
19:34Or do you want to sign a lease?
19:37Or do you just want to go month to month and kind of figure the quarterback out
19:40year to year?
19:42Watch this.
19:43I'm going to give you my answer.
19:45Okay.
19:45And then I don't know where it's going to go from there.
19:47I would have not paid him.
19:49I would have signed Matt Jones as my backup.
19:53To have Brock at that.
19:54And if he holds out, he holds out.
19:55Matt starts or whatever they figure out, that's what they figure out.
19:59But you could have allocated all that money to build your roster up
20:03a whole lot better this year because you didn't have to pay him.
20:06That $45 million could have went to a whole lot of more players.
20:11Well, and again.
20:12They haven't even spent that money yet to this year's allocation.
20:15Exactly.
20:16And, James, I would respond to you and say that's a fair opinion that many have.
20:19I don't share it because I don't agree.
20:22They don't share it.
20:23Teams don't conduct themselves in that fashion.
20:26So, you're going to tell Brock, we're not going to pay you and hold out if you want.
20:31And now we have Mack who's elevated to a starter.
20:33Which he would.
20:33So, now you've got Mack and Adrian Martinez or whomever else you would be able to recover.
20:39So, you really like a guy, but you don't want to pay him $53.
20:43So, we're going to hardball you.
20:44Even though the previous two off-seasons we've done that and it's been an absolute nightmare.
20:49Total disaster.
20:49Now we're going to do it with our quarterback?
20:51By the way, you're also, because I'm not going to let you cherry pick, you're doing that with Mack Jones
20:56before you knew that he was going to win his first two games as a Niner quarterback.
21:01I mean, some of us knew.
21:02Yes, right.
21:03No, because, by the way, Mack's not, his first game's not New Orleans.
21:06His first game's in Seattle.
21:08So, again, you're playing hardball with Brock.
21:11You're signing Mack Jones.
21:12He's never played for the Niners before.
21:14All you know is that he's played for the Patriots and Jags and not won football games for the most part.
21:20And you're going to kick Brock to the curb because all of you who say,
21:24no, Brock was under contract.
21:25Dibs is right.
21:26It's not how it works.
21:27He would hold out.
21:28He would not play.
21:29No chance.
21:29No way.
21:30No how.
21:30Period.
21:31So, if that's your opinion, stand on it.
21:35And I appreciate you.
21:36I do not share it.
21:38And the Niners, I think, would be a laughingstock around the league.
21:41Stand on it.
21:41That is not the message that they would want to send to players around the league that a quarterback from two NFC title games would just get kicked in the face after making $900,000 for the last three years after what he's achieved in this league.
21:56That's not what they want to do.
21:57Well, you know who would do that would be a franchise like Cleveland who gave 100% guaranteed money to Deshaun Watson.
22:04And he has played about nine games and not well for them.
22:07And there are the franchises that would do that.
22:10And a lot of them have never been able to figure it out.
22:13The Bears have tried to find a quarterback.
22:15And maybe Caleb Williams will be that guy.
22:17But so far, they haven't been able to find the solution.
22:19That's just not the way you go about doing business.
22:22And if you think that Brock is overpaid, then sorry, but that's the way it goes.
22:27That's the cost of doing business with a quarterback that you like as your franchise guy.
22:32Yeah.
22:32And if you want to mess around with guys who are in leveraged situations, all you got to do is watch the Dallas Cowboys for the last three months and decide if that's what you want.
22:43But just so you know, the whole world's laughing at the Cowboys, laughing at them.
22:49And I know Micah didn't have like the greatest game and the Packers defense didn't have the greatest game and all of those things.
22:55But the facts still remain is that the Cowboys are one, two, and one.
22:59They are no closer to doing anything special at all.
23:02And seemingly on a yearly basis are moving good players out of that roster as opposed to in.
23:08They still have no running game.
23:09Their defense is getting worse, but, oh, boy, they have a QB.
23:14They have a QB and an injured receiver.
23:16That's what they have decided to do.
23:19You take care of your people.
23:20You take care of your people who take care of you.
23:22You don't mess with them for no good reason.
23:27So that's, yeah, that's my take on that.
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