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00:00Did you see or hear any of the stuff last night from Sam Darnold pointed at Brock Purdy?
00:08I saw it, yeah.
00:09Did you see any of that?
00:10Pretty awesome.
00:11Did y'all hear any of this?
00:13It was the press conference before the game or after the game from Sam?
00:19Before or after the game from Sam?
00:20Well, so on the broadcast, Kirk and Al are talking about their sit-down with him leading up to the game.
00:26Okay, but then the Darnold part is...
00:29He started with the Seahawks in March.
00:31Ah, okay.
00:33So, like, he was talking about it months ago, and then he's still talking about it in production meetings with Kirk and Al.
00:41And then Al and Kirk were talking about it on the broadcast last night.
00:45Or on the stream.
00:46Right.
00:47Sorry, it wasn't a broadcast, actually.
00:48Yeah.
00:49It was a stream.
00:50It's more of a narrow cast when you're dealing with just people who have Amazon Prime.
00:54Yeah.
00:54We're trying to connect with Plaxico Burroughs, and hopefully we'll do that here shortly.
00:58Joining us here on Willard & Dibbs 95.7 The Game.
01:01Check it out.
01:01So, this is Darnold back in March when he signs with the Seahawks.
01:05I really, you know, thank Brock a ton.
01:08Brock Purdy for, you know, just his style of playing and how he kind of described his style.
01:12It was like, we got a ton of great playmakers on offense.
01:15Like, my job is just to play point guard and get the ball in their hands and let them go do great things with the Rock.
01:21And when I started to change my thought process as a quarterback to kind of just getting the ball in my guy's hands,
01:28then that really, that's kind of where it unlocked for me a little bit.
01:31So, that was from the intro presser.
01:35Yeah.
01:35Okay.
01:35Okay.
01:36So, that's one thing.
01:37It kind of gets lost in the whole offseason haze and whatnot.
01:41Now, Sam Darnold is 3-1 with a new team.
01:45And for me, as far as Darnold is concerned, by the way, I think this is really, really important.
01:50Because his career goes the way it goes, right?
01:53Jets, Carolina Panthers.
01:54And then he sits with the Niners for a year.
01:56Then you go to Minnesota, and you have this amazing year.
02:00It really ended with a dud.
02:02Like, I mean, amazing regular season.
02:05But then down the stretch, it kind of got wobbly.
02:06And in the playoffs, it was a dud.
02:08But similar to what happens to Purdy with Kyle Shanahan, a lot of people are like, well, Darnold got with O'Connell.
02:16And for me, if I'm Seattle, this is what would give me pause.
02:20Which is, ah, was Darnold, is he really capable?
02:26Or was he just in O'Connell's system and Justin Jefferson and Jordan Addison and all of that?
02:32Because to bring him to Seattle, you've got a defensive head coach.
02:35You get rid of a good portion, two-thirds of your receiving core.
02:38And it's like, okay, how's this going to go?
02:40Well, this is huge for Sam.
02:42They're 3-1.
02:43And he's playing pretty good football.
02:46So check this out.
02:47This is from Al Michaels and Kirk Herbstreet.
02:51First, this is Kirk, Thursday Night Football, Amazon Prime, talking about Darnold and Purdy.
02:57Where this guy was in his career in New York and Carolina, for all intents and purposes,
03:03I think a lot of folks in the league looked at him as basically damaged goods.
03:08He's done.
03:08He talked this week with Al and I and Kaylee about how his stop in San Francisco,
03:12we were like, of course, Kyle Shanahan, Brock Purdy, the younger quarterback he points to
03:18as a guy that's really helped him turn his career around.
03:22That's fascinating.
03:23I love that Kirk points out, like, yeah.
03:25I mean, Darnold should have showed up to the Niners.
03:28He's the elder statesman.
03:30But it was something that Brock Purdy talked to him about, sort of likening themselves to
03:35point guards that, I don't know, I mean, Sam credits it for changing everything about
03:42the way he quarterbacks.
03:43Yeah, and everybody develops differently and at different times.
03:46And I do think, and this goes back to yesterday's Trevor Lawrence debate, wasn't much of an argument,
03:51but you and I see things differently.
03:53I do think that being in a stable situation for a period of time is very helpful and very
03:59conducive.
04:00And also, I think that every quarterback can develop at his own pace.
04:06And I think about Josh Allen, his first year in Buffalo, Josh Allen was incredibly inaccurate.
04:13Josh Allen was not very good as a rookie.
04:16And many people thought, oh, God, he's never going to be good enough or accurate enough,
04:21blah, blah, blah.
04:22And Sam Darnold, you look at his career with the Jets, he was below 60%.
04:27Two years in Carolina, below 60% completion.
04:31Minnesota, oh, 66.
04:33And now this year he's at 70.
04:35So maybe he learned what he needed to learn in Minnesota, and he learned it here in San
04:41Francisco first.
04:42And the main thing is, like, find out who's open and get in the ball.
04:46And that's the one thing I think about with Trevor Lawrence is a lot of times he will hold
04:50it, hold it, hold it, and try to make the big play.
04:53And Brock Purdy, what he does so well is he reads it, he sees it, and he delivers it.
04:58And that ultimately is 90% of quarterbacking.
05:01Al got into the conversation with Kirk as it continued here on Amazon Prime.
05:05We're always talking to the quarterbacks, hey, who's the most influential?
05:09It's always some older coach, to the most part.
05:12Josh McCown.
05:13Well, yeah, you go back to Mike Shanahan, you go back to a lot of people, and then all
05:17of a sudden, Brock Purdy?
05:18Brock Purdy.
05:19And he said he helped me learn what it takes in paying attention to detail in preparation.
05:24And then he goes to KO in Minnesota, and we know what happened.
05:29We talked earlier about that, and I think he's just resurrected.
05:31He's confident.
05:32Well, I just wonder.
05:34I mean, to me, in a way, this is a conversation that in the world of sports radio, sports media,
05:40and fandom, this comes up all the time.
05:43There's what we see, and then there's what we don't see.
05:46A short time ago, you were talking about the Bob Melvin situation with the Giants.
05:50I think that this is key here.
05:52There's what we see.
05:53Oh, you lost too many games.
05:56Fire the manager.
05:57He should yell at people.
05:59You don't know that he doesn't.
06:01So there's what we see, and then what we don't see.
06:04And my belief, and I know a lot of people pass this off as teammates speak, because teammates
06:10are always going to say really nice things about each other.
06:14But if you even go to the stories of what was being said behind our backs about Brock Purdy,
06:20Trent Williams and Fred Warner have talked a lot about this through his career.
06:25Kyle Shanahan's conversation with Jed York when they got done with camp the year that Trey Lance,
06:31Jimmy Garoppolo, and Brock Purdy were all there.
06:34Nobody had played a game yet.
06:35So we can't tag 1-0, 2-0, 6-11, completion percentage.
06:41There's nothing.
06:42It's just three players who went through camp.
06:44And then all of a sudden, you got the coach, you got the Hall of Fame left tackle, you got the Hall of Fame linebacker,
06:50and they're all looking at each other going, dude, the little guy is the best one.
06:57He's the best one here.
06:59And all of them shared that opinion unequivocally.
07:03Yet, we see what we see.
07:06And so we come out with the whole, like, well, if it's Kyle Shanahan or Kevin O'Connell or whatever,
07:13and good teammates surrounding him, that's what stirs the drink.
07:17It absolutely is a factor.
07:20It's a piece of the puzzle.
07:22I just feel like we get inundated from the league, people playing in the league,
07:28people who have played in the league, saying, this is what you have in Brock Purdy.
07:34And a lot of us out here in what we see land, we don't want to buy it.
07:40We just don't want to buy it.
07:41We don't want to buy that there's something that is a little bit elevated or special about the guy.
07:45It's partly because what you talk about, draftism.
07:48And he couldn't possibly be this good because of where he was drafted.
07:52And if you look at the things that you're talking about,
07:55and even, like, the scouting report for him coming out,
07:58the guy played, what, 60 starts at Iowa State before he even got into the NFL.
08:03And I do think that that is a big factor into a development of a quarterback.
08:08And I always think about Mitchell Trubisky, who played one year at North Carolina.
08:12He started about 13 games, and he came in, and he wasn't ready.
08:16He didn't have the experience, and he's never been able to land on his feet.
08:20Subsequent to that, Sam Darnold's another interesting case because he played high level at USC,
08:25and he started for two, if not three years.
08:28And then he came in, and he struggled.
08:30Struggled on bad teams, went to another bad team and struggled.
08:34And many people wrote him off.
08:36And then he was able to land here, get a year of tutelage under Brock Purdy, apparently,
08:41go to Minnesota, ball out, get a huge contract, and now they're 3-1.
08:45And he's not out there lighting it up in Seattle.
08:48He's averaging about 220 yards a game.
08:50But he's solid.
08:51He's solid, and he's managing games.
08:53Yeah, he's playing well.
08:54He's playing well enough for them to win three of four,
08:57and they were damn close to beating the 49ers as well.
09:00Yeah, absolutely.
09:01Yeah, I thought even the game against the Niners, there was nothing overly impressive about,
09:08quite frankly, neither quarterback out there would you walk out of the game and be like,
09:12whew, they lit it up.
09:13I mean, Purdy got picked twice.
09:14Nobody got to 20 points.
09:16Darnold fumbled to end the game.
09:18All of these things happened.
09:20But when I'm watching both of them play, sometimes it's just a vibe.
09:24And that's kind of what I would point to, again, with what I hear a lot of people say.
09:29I was glad Armando said, no, let's, like, okay, he thinks Mac is a hot hand.
09:35I don't know if I would necessarily refer to any of it this way.
09:37The Niners have won all three games in kind of the same sort of a way.
09:41You go out there, there are some mistakes, you hang in there, you made big plays late,
09:46you win the football game.
09:47Not overly impressive offense.
09:49Not in any of the three.
09:51But if you want to call Mac Jones the hot hand, okay.
09:53But he stopped short of doing what I've heard a lot of people say,
09:58which the Niners would never do, which is play Mac until he loses.
10:01You would never, ever, ever do that.
10:04I mean, think of the implications that are going on there.
10:08Number one, I don't know, what if he wins 10 in a row?
10:13Is he just starting quarterback now?
10:14Right.
10:14Prior to Brock Purdy even starting his $53 million per year contract?
10:20I mean, I know people will be like, hey, if you're winning, you're winning.
10:23Like, why would you even do that?
10:25Well, you would do it if you thought you had a Kaepernick-Alex Smith situation.
10:30Which, you know.
10:30Which they don't.
10:31Right.
10:32And those two were probably close enough in Harbaugh's mind that once he got the opportunity,
10:36or he was forced to have the chance to play Kaepernick, he did.
10:40And Kaepernick gave them a completely different dimension.
10:43And Harbaugh loved that.
10:44And so, you went with him, you stuck with him, and you went all the way to the Super Bowl.
10:47This is not that.
10:48This is Mac, who is number two in the league, by the way, in yards per game, passing right
10:54now, which is really good.
10:56And he's had two great games.
10:58It doesn't mean that he's going to go out there and win every week, and Brock Purdy is
11:01still your quarterback.
11:02Yeah.
11:02I mean, 100%.
11:03Like, if you want to accuse, this is one of those situations where it's like, well, wait
11:08a minute.
11:08Is this about politics?
11:10And to a certain degree, the answer's yes.
11:14Absolutely.
11:15Like, the Niners have made their decision.
11:19It's the same reason, go back, in fact, to the training camp I just referenced, when Trey
11:25Lance, Jimmy Garoppolo, and Brock Purdy are all there.
11:28Kyle Shanahan pulls Jed York aside and goes, Brock Purdy definitely is the best of the three.
11:33Well, why didn't you start him?
11:36Why didn't you start him?
11:38You've put major, major draft resources into Trey Lance.
11:41So, you're going to start Trey Lance.
11:44Well, same thing here, which is, they have put major, major, major, major resources now
11:50into Brock Purdy.
11:51So, that's what they're picking.
11:53That's the way they're going to go.
11:55And they don't have any evidence otherwise.
12:00They don't have any evidence to not do that.
12:02Like, if Mack's the hot hand, well, I don't know.
12:05Was Brock the hot hand?
12:07He won his game, too.
12:09He drove his team trailing down the field and won a football game also.
12:14So, I don't know, man.
12:15Like, so far, quite frankly, all three of the games have looked very, very similar.
12:19Yeah.
12:20And I do also think that, especially when it comes to Brock Purdy and his rookie year,
12:24there's a lot to be said about, you know, giving a rookie more of a runway to learn
12:30and to adapt.
12:31So, even when Shanahan tells Jed York in camp, yeah, Brock Purdy's our best quarterback.
12:36Well, you're not going to start him right now, not only because you're invested in Trey
12:40Lance, but also because he's not ready.
12:43He probably wasn't ready in September or October.
12:46If Brock Purdy was really ready to be the best quarterback in that moment, he would have
12:52started in game three against the Denver Broncos.
12:54And you remember that game, Jimmy starts, Jimmy saunters out of the back of the end
12:59zone, and you lose 11 to 10.
13:00Exactly.
13:01If Brock was ready on that day, which was four, I'm sorry, three years ago yesterday, that
13:07game where Jimmy starts, Trey was hurt.
13:11If Brock was ready, you would have started Brock because you thought Brock was better,
13:14but he wasn't ready at that point.
13:16Or there's a lot of politics involved to it.
13:18I don't think there was politics with Jimmy G in Brock, though.
13:20Maybe.
13:20Maybe.
13:21Maybe.
13:21Maybe.
13:21Maybe.
13:21Maybe.
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