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James "Lights Out" Toney defends his IBF Super Middleweight Title against former Light Heavyweight Champion "Prince" Charles Williams on HBO Boxing

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00:00:00George Foreman elects to do his own business this time calls up James

00:00:03Tony's manager Jackie Callen and tries to make the fight himself because he

00:00:07wants the paycheck now when a guy is that hungry does that make him more

00:00:10dangerous it really makes him awful dangerous but sometimes you can call the

00:00:15wrong guy up you can get mixed up George Foreman doesn't call anybody some

00:00:18fellas I would prefer not to talk to knock all up but he I think is made wrong

00:00:22phone number this time it was a wrong number call another number well we're

00:00:26about to find out as we get ready to watch James Tony the IBS super middle

00:00:29weight champion as he defends that title against Prince Charles Williams all

00:00:33week long Larry we've been hearing about wise guys insiders smart boxing types who

00:00:39are lining up at the sports books here in town to take the three or four to one

00:00:43odds and bet on Prince Charles Williams why well it does seem odd in a way

00:00:49because if you would have bet every fight against James Tony you would be oh and

00:00:5543 and broke why would you try to go out there and pick the first

00:00:59defeat of an undefeated outstanding champion but it is a reflection of the

00:01:06respect with which Williams is held in the boxing community he was a very good

00:01:11light heavyweight champion and the feeling is is that if he can hold the

00:01:15lower weight of about 168 pounds and by holding it I mean if he can sustain

00:01:21himself through a long grueling tough fight without falling apart because of

00:01:27the weight and he just might be counted as the toughest opponent that James Tony

00:01:32has been in with now let me give you a dietary note on how he lost this way he

00:01:36gave up his addiction to soda pop some 12 to 15 cans of it a day anyone who is that

00:01:45serious about a fight has to be dangerous his problem is that James Tony has been

00:01:51serious about all of his fights lately great dietary note one backward step for

00:01:56Mountain Dew one step forward for Prince Charles Williams as for Tony so much

00:02:00attention has been paid to his relationship with his manager the woman

00:02:03Jackie Callan that it will ultimately be the subject of a feature film much less

00:02:07attention has been paid to his relationship with his septuagenarian

00:02:11trainer Bill Miller here's a closer look

00:02:24in boxing there is no place like the corner the corner is home to craftsmen who

00:02:29must be part surgeon part field general heart psychologist for James Tony his

00:02:35corner is manned by one of the best a wily veteran named Bill Pops Miller

00:02:40at first glance 74 year old Bill Miller and 25 year old James Tony would seem an odd

00:02:51couple and indeed early on the two didn't mesh I mean the first time we used to work together at

00:02:57he said Jim oh I wanted to kill you yeah he's me this guy I met and you know cuz he

00:03:04don't take no you know pops don't tell the bullshit he's he straight up it's either his way or the highway

00:03:08he said I'm too old for this I don't need this if you're gonna learn you're gonna learn if you're gonna play

00:03:13around go somewhere else I don't need you I looked at James I said look like he's a good athlete all you need

00:03:20somebody to stay on push him and be willing to teach him because probably up until then he probably never dealt with nobody like me

00:03:31what Miller saw in Tony was a flashback to his own youth to the 1930s in Cincinnati where Miller began his boxing career as a young boy

00:03:38boy my mother had three brothers they was all prize fighters consequently at the early age they should take me with them to them gyms as they would teach me I'd practice on all the kids in the neighborhood

00:03:53for seven decades Miller has studied the sweet science and now he imparts his encyclopedic knowledge of the sport to James

00:04:00professor Miller tutors his young student with the help of vintage fight films particularly those of an old friend from Cincinnati

00:04:06former heavyweight champion Ezra Charles we always watch the mass combination then we'd watch his defense I could make a man miss the slip and slide rolling

00:04:18car and have still have good position good balance and knew where he was at at all times out there and these are the things that you know we should talk about

00:04:27says you're gonna do all this here and we always say that you're gonna be better than these guys you're gonna take what they had and

00:04:36improve on it he used to hang out with his man as a child so he tried to bring something out out in me you know I work on my leg image tapes he said look at

00:04:45these tapes study them and then you try to infect them as we go along you don't tell the person to know you know he's a teacher he's not a trainer he's a teacher I'm a student I listen to

00:04:55everything he says there is one thing however that James will not listen to Bill's music Bill Miller's passion for boxing is exceeded only by his love of

00:05:06jazz I should always say that Charlie Parker was the music what Ray Robinson was at the boxing and you listen to Charlie Parker play you listen to a master he heard it all there and he expressed it with his instrument where Ray Robinson expressed his with his movement his hand speed and his agility and it was close related it told you a message

00:05:35all in all Bill Miller and James Tony are an odd couple but the combination works because of their mutual love of boxing and their mutual respect and love for one another see James like a son to me I love James I do anything for James people say well why don't you change his attitude if I change his attitude then he wouldn't be James Tony I love him like he is

00:06:01he's like a dad to me dad I never had coming up you know I can go to pops for anything yeah I love pops he's great you know I just love him I love him dearly

00:06:10a moment of sweetness from the angry young man of boxing James Tony here's tonight's opponent Prince Charles Williams 32 years old he has been in boxing as a professional for 16 years

00:06:29he has spent more than 10 of those years fighting in the light heavyweight division as you saw he is the first ever former light heavyweight champion to fight for 168 pound crown but in all reality Larry Merchant the 168 pound division has emerged in the sport since Prince Charles Williams made his commitment early on to become a light heavyweight that's right James Tony has has made the division although of course Ray Leonard and Tommy Hearns fought at that weight

00:06:58late in their careers but Tony has made this division meaningful for however long he stays in it and perhaps there are some other light heavyweights who would have fought at this weight had it been meaningful and if you could make some money at it but this guy is a good professional he has very good skills and a great fighting heart the professional record of Prince Charles Williams

00:07:28in the last 10 years that was the last 10 years that was the last 10 years that was the loss to Henry Maskey of Germany which cost him his IBF light heavyweight championship last year and that came after a year and a half layoff because of a busted left hand which he broke three different times so he does have an excuse

00:07:47meanwhile here is a man who will put no excuses for anything from anybody the perpetually angry James Tony getting ready for his 11th championship fight

00:08:00he is a spectacularly active fighter who generally likes to fight at least once every couple of months he fought within the past two months at 181 pounds winning a 10 round decision in Illinois

00:08:15he's doing it he's doing it the old fashioned way this is his 19th fight since he won the middleweight championship three years ago he keeps improving there's no reason the young athlete who happens to become a champion shouldn't improve every fighter out there should know that lesson

00:08:33right George wait us in no better say it and the record for James Tony 43 wins no losses two draws 28 KOs he can beat you by decision by outboxing you he can slug you out of there if he chooses to do so just a terrific fighter generally regarded as maybe the second best in the sport or the best if you happen to like him better than Pernell Whitaker the lightweight champ or the welterweight champ I should say

00:09:00undefeated champions in the sport there are several but of the top five active undefeated champions you can see that James Tony has had more wins more fights than anybody else

00:09:19arena quiet now as we get ready for the intros for this fight Tony does not like all the attention that is paid to De La Hoya when he fights doubleheaders with him it was the case March 5 in LA and again tonight and here's the tale of the tape you see the seven year difference in age Prince Charles Williams is three inches taller and James Tony struggled to make weight at two o'clock yesterday afternoon three hours before the weigh-in he was a couple pounds over and I want to ask you something about that George does that indicate

00:09:48somehow that he's looked past Prince William that he was two pounds overweight a few hours before the weigh-in yesterday that perhaps he hasn't worked as hard as he should be coming into this fight that he's right to be taken in any way I don't think so I think the guy loves to eat and you see him he eats like a heavyweight they have to hide him hide food hide the refrigerator and I think it's to his benefit he talks about someday fighting as a heavyweight punch that numbers Larry

00:10:15all right let's take a look at the punch that numbers to see how active these fighters are if these numbers hold up you're going to see a lot of punches thrown tonight they're both accurate punchers as well

00:10:24jabs both of them also also throw the jab these are two well-schooled price fighters rules of the bout with our unofficial ringside scorer Harold Letterman James Tony and Prince Charles Williams will box tonight using the rules of the International Boxing Federation

00:10:4012 rounds there is no standing eight count no three knockdown rule you cannot be saved by by the bell in any round including the last only the referee can stop the fight and in case a cut is caused by an accidental headbutt and that cut causes the fight to be stopped we go to the scorecards if the six rounds have been completed before that it's a technical draw Jim let's go up to ring announcer Michael Buffer for the pre-fight introductions

00:11:02ladies and gentlemen once again Bob Arum's top rank incorporated in association with your undisputed undefeated king of beers Budweiser presents world championship boxing once again this bout is sanctioned by the Nevada State Athletic Commission officials at ringside shall remain the same in association with the International Boxing Federation President Robert W Lee supervisor at ringside Ms. Marion Muhammad the three judges assigned to this bout scoring

00:11:32on a ten-point must system are Mike Gliena Art Lurie and Stuart John Stewart pardon me Stuart Winston and when the bell rings the man in charge of the action working in a world title bout for the 68th time referee Joe Cortez and now ladies and gentlemen from the Grand Garden here at the MGM Grand of Las Vegas Nevada

00:11:59let's get ready to rumble

00:12:0612 rounds of boxing for the IBF super middleweight championship of the world

00:12:12introducing first fighting out of the blue corner wearing the blue trunks with gold trim weighing in at 167 and one half pounds he comes to us from Mansfield Ohio with a professional record of 36 and 5

00:12:2836 and 5 2 draws 27 of his 36 victories by KO ladies and gentlemen introducing the challenger and former light heavyweight champion of the world Prince Charles Williams

00:12:35and his opponent across the ring fighting out of the red corner wearing the black trunks with silver trim

00:12:42wearing in at 168 pounds from Ann Arbor Michigan his professional record

00:12:4943 victories he has not been defeated he has two draws 28 KOs to his credit

00:12:56considered by many to be pound for pound the best in the world ladies and gentlemen a two time world champion and the current IBF super middleweight champion of the world James

00:13:03the lights out

00:13:10the lights out

00:13:26Lord James

00:13:37All right gentlemen, we want all the rules in the dressing room

00:13:39I win the good cleave fight

00:13:41protect yourself at all time

00:13:43shake your ass good luck

00:13:46Jim, I look upon this as a like

00:13:48weight

00:13:49and the sea fight

00:13:50we're going to wait and see

00:13:53whether Prince Williams can maintain at this weight

00:13:57and whether James Toney is in his best shape.

00:14:02And part of the pressure for Toney tonight, as of this afternoon,

00:14:06if Toney wins, a deal is in place for him to fight on November 19.

00:14:11IBF middleweight champion Roy Jones Jr.,

00:14:14the man that Toney has been stalking for more than a year now.

00:14:18He wants Jones. He gets him November 19 if he can beat Williams tonight.

00:14:22Prince Charles Williams promised to crowd James Toney,

00:14:25and George Foreman, he begins doing exactly that.

00:14:27I think he's doing a fine job of it,

00:14:30because sometimes you just don't crowd a fighter that crafter with heavy shots.

00:14:33Just keep your hands on him, top him.

00:14:37Good right hand over the top by Williams.

00:14:39Referee Joe Cortez telling the fighters to work away from the rope.

00:14:43Williams would like to keep it right here.

00:14:46Williams was able to land a good right hand to the body,

00:14:49which may make a great difference if the round can fight continues.

00:14:52to go for him.

00:14:53Prince Charles Williams doing exactly what he wanted to do early.

00:14:57James Toney not putting up much of a response.

00:15:00Hasn't been able to land a jab yet,

00:15:01so everything works behind Toney's left jab.

00:15:04If it doesn't start working, then he's got to take his time.

00:15:08Toney clearly felt in our discussion with him

00:15:10that he'd be able to handle Williams easily

00:15:12when Williams was away from him

00:15:13and fully expected Prince Charles to crowd him like this.

00:15:17So it seems as though both fighters are getting what they expected in the first round,

00:15:21but Williams likes it better.

00:15:24If Toney is able to periodically just tap him in the middle of the stomach,

00:15:28he'll stop that crowding real quick.

00:15:32James missing the right hand over the top.

00:15:34James Toney has thrown only a few punches so far

00:15:37as he watches Prince Charles Williams work up close.

00:15:41Come on, get those arms out.

00:15:42Come on, we got it, eh?

00:15:44We got it, eh?

00:15:45Come on, get those arms out.

00:15:53Solid right hand by Toney.

00:15:54Backs Williams up for the first time.

00:15:56Now he tries to go to work behind the dead.

00:15:58Williams pushes it back

00:16:06and just doesn't give him any room to work.

00:16:09It's going to take a lot of stamina

00:16:10for Prince Charles to maintain this tactic, right, George?

00:16:13That's true.

00:16:13It would have been beneficial for Prince Charles

00:16:15to have Toney on him like that for a couple of rounds

00:16:17so that he can come on later in the fight.

00:16:19Now he's shooting everything he's got

00:16:21and this may prove to be not too good

00:16:24as the fight continues to go on.

00:16:25He's bigger.

00:16:26We got it.

00:16:26Come on.

00:16:27We're going to get it.

00:16:27But you're going to have to take a calculated gamble

00:16:29to beat a man like James Toney

00:16:31and clearly for Prince Charles,

00:16:32the gamble is that he can sustain

00:16:34for several rounds in fighting like this.

00:16:37Good right hand over the top.

00:16:39He's going on top of the head.

00:16:41This is what takes out of the good fighters.

00:16:44The guy hitting on top of the head.

00:16:46You mix that with body punching

00:16:47and you're just not going to have the energy to go.

00:16:50Toney lands a left of the body

00:16:52and a left of the head.

00:16:53Once again, breaks out of jail momentarily.

00:16:55Look at it.

00:16:56We're not going to talk about it.

00:16:57It's important that Toney established that,

00:16:59hey, I can win this round to the judges now.

00:17:01It may be a little bit too late.

00:17:03Come on.

00:17:04All right.

00:17:05Time.

00:17:06Go.

00:17:07Tactically, at least,

00:17:08round one belonged to Williams.

00:17:11I wonder who you got to go, you hear?

00:17:13I wonder who you got to go.

00:17:14I wonder who you got to go.

00:17:15Don't eat for that, you hear?

00:17:17I don't need that, you hear?

00:17:18I don't need that, you hear?

00:17:18All right.

00:17:19Don't do it again.

00:17:20Look at that, Gleason.

00:17:21A little give-and-take between James Toney and referee Joe Cortez.

00:17:27Huh?

00:17:27What's wrong?

00:17:27Look at the face.

00:17:28Famous defense attorney Robert Shapiro involved in a heavily publicized case in Los Angeles

00:17:33is here tonight, seated at ringside.

00:17:35A little bit earlier, we captured this shot of him visiting in the dressing room of James Toney

00:17:40and manager Jackie Callen.

00:17:42About a month ago, Jackie Callen arranged for Robert Shapiro to come to a gym in Los Angeles

00:17:48and spar.

00:17:49Believe it or not, spar with James Toney.

00:17:52She says it was the real stuff.

00:17:54He showed up without headgear, without a protective cup, without anything to wrap his hands,

00:17:58just wanted to put the gloves on and bang away at James, and he did it.

00:18:02He tried to hurt James.

00:18:04Is he crazy or what?

00:18:06Oh, yes.

00:18:06They wound up going two-plus rounds, and Shapiro, by his own admission, was exhausted at the end.

00:18:15What the heads inside?

00:18:20Now round two begins.

00:18:23Oh, we got it.

00:18:24We got it.

00:18:27Tony's going to have to be careful, because he's going to find himself staggering Prince Charles a lot.

00:18:32Don't go for the finish.

00:18:34Just keep the staggering up.

00:18:36What's he going to stagger him with, George?

00:18:38He's going to stagger him just a few years ago with a good right hand.

00:18:42And that's going to be his side of the head, right side of the head.

00:18:46Left side of the head.

00:18:46What the head inside?

00:18:49If they keep standing like this, it'll take a solid uppercut to break the fight open.

00:18:55Here's Tony with a left hook.

00:18:57Now he goes back to the body.

00:18:59And there's a few moments when he finds open space.

00:19:04Tony shows you his remarkable proficiency for accurate punching.

00:19:09This is going to be a hard job for Tony, because he's going to hurt this guy periodically.

00:19:14Don't keep trying for the finish every time you hurt him.

00:19:17Wait until the fight draws on.

00:19:18When you have the freedom.

00:19:24George, does Tony seem strong enough to you to stand up under this constant leaning in?

00:19:31No way.

00:19:32He should not have been allowed to just let this big guy lay on him throughout the fight.

00:19:36Of course, it's said that Tony's been working out with heavyweights in the gym.

00:19:40So he may be prepared for this pushing shift.

00:19:42It really takes it out of you.

00:19:44Your legs get tired.

00:19:45Your knees get weak.

00:19:46Not because of punching, but because the big guy's leaning on you.

00:19:50So if, in fact, when he struggled to make weight yesterday,

00:19:52that was because he had gone a little bit short on the conditioning,

00:19:56it'll show up more quickly under this tactic, right?

00:19:59No, I think going at the last minute losing that weight

00:20:01may mean he'd have a little more strength than the ordinary would.

00:20:04A problem you don't face in the heavyweight division, George,

00:20:11and it's a good thing because we've enjoyed your career.

00:20:30Believe me, this fight is not going the way Tony would like it.

00:20:32He's landing good shots to the side of the body,

00:20:35which he should be to advance a little of the taking a sap out of Prince Charles.

00:20:39But he should be in the middle of that ring a little bit.

00:20:45This is certainly the fight that Prince Charles Williams

00:20:48and his advisors would have drawn up on the drawing board.

00:20:52The fans are booing because this is like a stage play in which all the dialogue,

00:21:11which is a dialogue with fists, is taking place in one corner of the stage.

00:21:15But it's tough and grueling in there.

00:21:17After this round, if we can go back to the outside a little bit and box around it.

00:21:21You hear that?

00:21:22Huh?

00:21:22All right.

00:21:23One thing, if you ain't getting your stuff off the inside,

00:21:27if you're not getting your stuff off the inside, don't hang on that too long.

00:21:32But you've got to pick up your hand speed inside a little bit.

00:21:34You're punching a little bit too slow.

00:21:35All right.

00:21:36Take a look at the hand speed in a little bit.

00:21:38All right.

00:21:39How you feel?

00:21:39Good.

00:21:40All right, baby.

00:21:41Now prove it to me that it'll show me good.

00:21:43Yeah.

00:21:43Prove it to me that it'll show me good.

00:21:45I want you to dig, dig, dig.

00:21:47You understand?

00:21:47I want you to put that left hand underneath,

00:21:49that double left hand underneath,

00:21:50right hand on top.

00:21:51Okay, baby?

00:21:52You can do it for me, can't you?

00:21:53You done did it for both.

00:21:54Now let's go this time.

00:21:56All right, let's go this time.

00:21:57Williams' trainer, his executive trainer, I suppose,

00:22:01is Marty Feldman, who trained Dave to bury the fighter

00:22:05who gave James Toney such a rough time

00:22:07by out-hustling him in that controversial decision

00:22:11three years ago.

00:22:13And they're convinced that a Prince William

00:22:15can punch for three minutes of the round,

00:22:18that James Toney can be out-hustled

00:22:20and you can't steal the rounds from him

00:22:22because he doesn't like to fight for three minutes.

00:22:25That's their theory, and that's what you're watching here.

00:22:28And so far, Prince Charles Williams has every reason

00:22:30or confidence and for feeling good about the way

00:22:34things are going.

00:22:35If you tuned in to see a classic boxing match,

00:22:37this ain't it.

00:22:39The two fighters have thrown a total

00:22:40of a dozen jabs between them

00:22:42in the first two rounds.

00:22:43Hey, what do you got?

00:22:44Give up, put it up, put it up for you guys.

00:22:46Toney was told by his corner to make sure

00:22:48if you're not going to lay on that rope,

00:22:51get something into the body.

00:22:52If not, get out of there.

00:22:55But it's not that easy to get out of the ring

00:22:57with a big guy like that.

00:22:59He's got you on the corner with weight.

00:23:01Why not just step to the left

00:23:05and run away to open space, George?

00:23:06Well, he doesn't want to give him the confidence

00:23:08that, hey, you got me running.

00:23:09So a lot of that is, hey, I'm going to stay here

00:23:11until he's finished doing what he's doing.

00:23:14If I start to run,

00:23:15it can create a whole other fight.

00:23:18Now Tony was able to land a good left jab for a champion.

00:23:21Yeah, but Prince Charles Williams landed one, too.

00:23:24And when they're in open space,

00:23:25the jab is Prince Charles Williams' best weapon.

00:23:29And he's confident he can jab with Tony.

00:23:33If he was that confident, believe me,

00:23:35he wouldn't be pushing him across the ropes.

00:23:38I hear you.

00:23:39Tony's got the quicker jab.

00:23:41And he can get his confidence up

00:23:43by landing a few of his feet.

00:23:44Well, this is a heck of a way

00:23:45to neutralize that quick jab.

00:23:46He's doing a good job of it.

00:23:47I mean, it may not be exciting to the general eye,

00:23:51but this is the way to fight Tony.

00:23:52Keep up, keep up, keep up.

00:23:53Good right up and cut inside by Tony.

00:23:59Hey, come on, put your work out of there.

00:24:00Come on, your hands are free, guys.

00:24:01Come on.

00:24:04All right, Chris, keep up, Chris.

00:24:05Keep up, keep up.

00:24:06You expected James to have the clear edge

00:24:08in punching power, right, George?

00:24:09I expect so,

00:24:10because Chris Charles has had to lose a lot of weight.

00:24:12And once that goes, a lot of the steam.

00:24:14It's like starting off with a sludge hammer

00:24:17and ending up with a big, big kick.

00:24:19Tony has got his power as a middleweight.

00:24:22The lightheaded weight has lost his power.

00:24:23He wouldn't like it.

00:24:25Watch your head inside, Chris.

00:24:26Watch your head inside, Chris.

00:24:29Round three, very much like his two predecessors.

00:24:33Both of you guys here.

00:24:33Very little time spent an open space.

00:24:36Prince Charles Williams locking James Tony up in jail

00:24:39along the ropes and keeping him there.

00:24:41Now, here comes Tony,

00:24:42flurrying back with counter punches inside.

00:24:46But Chris should not allow Tony to get him on the ropes

00:24:49because then he's changed the whole complexion

00:24:52of this whole deal.

00:24:54He was quick to get off the ropes.

00:25:00Tony lashing at Williams

00:25:02as round three comes to a close.

00:25:06Oh, Williams staggered as he went to his corner.

00:25:08This is hand-to-hand

00:25:09and shoulder-to-shoulder combat

00:25:11a war of attrition.

00:25:13That's a war of attrition.

00:25:17Let me find this.

00:25:22That's a war of attrition.

00:25:23That's a war of attrition.

00:25:24When you're digging that hook down there,

00:25:34double it up when you bring it back upstairs.

00:25:37All right?

00:25:38Okay.

00:25:40You go out there,

00:25:41he's trying to back you up all the time.

00:25:43When you go out there,

00:25:44get him with a power jab.

00:25:50Relax a little bit.

00:25:51Keep your hands moving.

00:25:52Keep your hands moving.

00:25:53Okay?

00:25:54Keep working.

00:25:55Keep working, man.

00:25:56Keep working.

00:25:57Keep the pressure.

00:25:59In my view, gentlemen,

00:26:01Tony has taken the initiative

00:26:04in the last couple of rounds.

00:26:06He's fighting Williams' fight,

00:26:08and I think he's starting to beat him at it.

00:26:11That numbers, as you saw,

00:26:13were just about equal.

00:26:13Both fighters landing

00:26:14extraordinarily high percentages

00:26:17of their punches.

00:26:18At this range,

00:26:19one might say,

00:26:20how could they miss?

00:26:21Punch on there.

00:26:21We're good.

00:26:23I think Prince Williams' corner

00:26:26made a mistake telling him

00:26:27to keep it up, keep it up.

00:26:29At some point,

00:26:29you've got to take a breather

00:26:30from that hard,

00:26:32pushing forward,

00:26:32throwing shots,

00:26:33shoulders and all that.

00:26:34You've got to pace a guy like that.

00:26:36You've got to pace him.

00:26:37Well, who works harder,

00:26:38the leaner or the leaner?

00:26:40Believe me, it's worth him

00:26:41in both ways

00:26:42because as he's leaning,

00:26:43Tony is able to occasionally

00:26:45hit him to the side.

00:26:46This just doesn't help your leg

00:26:48nor your wing.

00:26:49And even greater premium

00:26:50on body punching

00:26:51in a fight like this, George?

00:26:52That's true.

00:26:53And so if he,

00:26:54his corner's got to allow him

00:26:56at some point

00:26:56to coast a little bit,

00:26:58recapture yourself,

00:26:59let Tony do some of the burning out.

00:27:01Your hands are free.

00:27:01Archie Moore

00:27:14and a great fighter

00:27:15from Philadelphia.

00:27:17He'll always get into

00:27:17those kind of fights.

00:27:18He'd whip Archie Moore

00:27:19and whip Archie Moore

00:27:20but finally that weight

00:27:21would tire him out

00:27:22and Archie would come on.

00:27:24We're talking about

00:27:25Harold Johnson.

00:27:27Great fighter.

00:27:31Tough job for referee

00:27:36Joe Cortez tonight

00:27:37trying to decide

00:27:38him to disentangle them

00:27:39and when to let him go.

00:27:42For the most part,

00:27:42he's been letting him go.

00:27:44Yeah, this is a spectacular job

00:27:45for Cortez

00:27:46and roughly

00:27:46this is what you call

00:27:48roughly when you have

00:27:49to get in and work

00:27:50for your money.

00:27:59Watch your hands inside, guys.

00:28:01He's got a little bit tighter, right?

00:28:28A lot of time

00:28:29that sound comes before

00:28:30the punch

00:28:31so it gives you time

00:28:31to come up.

00:28:35Really?

00:28:36It's a so hard defense, huh?

00:28:38Yeah.

00:28:38It's the unexpected

00:28:39that hurts you in the box.

00:28:44Solid right hand by Tony.

00:28:47The momentary open space

00:28:49and lunge the right hand

00:28:50through it.

00:28:53The rule is when you're hurt,

00:28:54take it easy,

00:28:55back off a little bit.

00:28:56Now, he's breaking the rule.

00:28:57He gets hurt from Prince Charles

00:28:59and he keeps pouring it on.

00:29:00You can't break the rules

00:29:01like that to the team.

00:29:04Tony getting a chance

00:29:05to flurry

00:29:05at the end of round number four.

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00:29:35Harold Letterman,

00:29:39how do you have it

00:29:39after four rounds?

00:29:40Larry, I've got it

00:29:4138 to 38,

00:29:42two rounds apiece

00:29:43gave the first round

00:29:44and the fourth round

00:29:46to Charles Williams,

00:29:47the middle two

00:29:47to James Toney.

00:29:48Larry, let me tell you something.

00:29:49The reason that this fight

00:29:51is so hard to score

00:29:52is three quarters at a time

00:29:54I'm looking at the guy's back.

00:29:55I'm not seeing a darn thing,

00:29:56but a fight is back.

00:29:58If you're looking at his back

00:29:59or you're looking at the referee,

00:30:00you certainly can't see the punches.

00:30:02This is what's happening to me

00:30:03and this is what's happening

00:30:05to the three guys

00:30:05scoring a fight.

00:30:06It's virtually impossible

00:30:07to see all the shots

00:30:08looking at his back.

00:30:09It's a good insight, Harold,

00:30:11and that's why we have you here.

00:30:13I have it two rounds

00:30:14to one and one even

00:30:15for Tony.

00:30:16For Tony.

00:30:17Did you also give Tony

00:30:19the second and third rounds?

00:30:20Yes, I did.

00:30:21That's the way I see it also.

00:30:24But then I'll see it, bro.

00:30:27Now from our perspective here,

00:30:29you can't see either fighter

00:30:30doing anything.

00:30:32So it's a very, very difficult

00:30:33fight to score.

00:30:35All right, we're going to do it, guys.

00:30:37Come on.

00:30:37At some point,

00:30:38Prince Charles doesn't even

00:30:39care about his stance anymore.

00:30:41He just lays on Tony,

00:30:42drops his legs,

00:30:43put them together

00:30:44and just lies on him.

00:30:47The two fighters pounding away

00:30:49at each other

00:30:49in the corner just above us.

00:30:52If you wanted us to,

00:30:53he could reach out

00:30:53and touch him for you.

00:30:56Come on, get the hot dog.

00:30:57Get him out.

00:30:57What?

00:30:58What guy did it?

00:30:58The phone booth

00:31:00simply moving

00:31:01from one corner

00:31:02to another

00:31:03as each round goes by.

00:31:07Now Tony inching

00:31:08backward along the ropes

00:31:09toward Prince Charles

00:31:11Williams' corner.

00:31:12Now when you start

00:31:13working close like that,

00:31:14you have a tendency

00:31:15to get your head

00:31:16acquainted with the guys.

00:31:17And before you know it,

00:31:19one guy's puffed up

00:31:20more than the other,

00:31:20especially the guy

00:31:21using his head.

00:31:22He'll end up puffing you up

00:31:23not with punches,

00:31:24but with headbutts.

00:31:25Yeah, what about

00:31:26headbutts in here

00:31:27and the possibility

00:31:28of a cut, George?

00:31:29Yeah, it's not so much

00:31:30the butt, it's just

00:31:31the lean of the head

00:31:31continuously on you.

00:31:33Your head is not a glove.

00:31:34The eyebrows of the other guy

00:31:36will cut your face.

00:31:40Charles is keeping

00:31:41his head real close

00:31:42to turning.

00:31:43That's dangerous.

00:31:44Must be awfully easy

00:31:45to get angry at a man

00:31:46when you're this close

00:31:47all the time.

00:31:47Ha, ha, ha.

00:31:49Ha, ha.

00:31:49Ha, ha, ha.

00:31:50Ha, ha, ha, ha.

00:31:51Ha, ha, ha, ha.

00:31:52Ha, ha, ha, ha, ha.

00:31:52Chopping right hand inside

00:31:53by Prince Charles Williams.

00:31:57Tony seeming to focus

00:31:59on the body

00:32:00up to the top.

00:32:02When he steps away

00:32:03he looks for the head.

00:32:07Right uppercut landed

00:32:08for James Tony.

00:32:09Punch it work out of there.

00:32:10Punch it work out of there.

00:32:11Punch it work out of there.

00:32:13Punch it work out of there.

00:32:14Come on, let's go.

00:32:16Punch it work out

00:32:17so your hands are free.

00:32:20Come on, work out of there.

00:32:21Come on, punch it work out.

00:32:23Prince Charles Williams

00:32:24consistently executing

00:32:26the fight plan

00:32:27he told us he would use.

00:32:29Crowding James Tony

00:32:30from the opening bell,

00:32:32forcing him against the ropes,

00:32:34forcing him to fight

00:32:35in a tight space.

00:32:37Tony, at first seemingly

00:32:38frustrated by this,

00:32:39has since found

00:32:40a lot of open target.

00:32:43Prince Charles is able

00:32:44to zero in

00:32:45on a swollen side

00:32:46of James Tony.

00:32:47I think it's the left side

00:32:48and that just is not

00:32:49going to help Tony

00:32:50as the fight goes on.

00:32:51And Prince Charles

00:32:53landed a chopping right hand

00:32:54that hurt James Tony

00:32:55momentarily there.

00:32:58Believe me,

00:32:58the swelling on his side

00:33:00was not caused

00:33:01by the punches.

00:33:01It's been caused

00:33:02by the constant

00:33:03touching of the heads.

00:33:05A ripping left hook

00:33:06to the body by Tony

00:33:07as round five

00:33:09comes to a close.

00:33:12All right, guys.

00:33:13This guy's beginning

00:33:14to slow up.

00:33:15Now, we got to...

00:33:16That comes out too fast.

00:33:18Let me see this part.

00:33:19Give him this part.

00:33:20That comes out too fast.

00:33:22Okay.

00:33:28All right, this guy...

00:33:29I want to go clean fight

00:33:30in there.

00:33:30Watch his heads inside,

00:33:31all right?

00:33:31How I'm doing, baby?

00:33:32I got...

00:33:33This man's beginning

00:33:35to slow down.

00:33:36He ain't got too much...

00:33:36Go clean fight in there.

00:33:37Come on,

00:33:37wipe them heads inside,

00:33:38all right?

00:33:38Give me clean fight.

00:33:39All right, let me see.

00:33:40Take your time, bro.

00:33:42All right, how you feel?

00:33:43Yeah.

00:33:43All right, this time

00:33:44I want you to short jab,

00:33:45right hand over the top.

00:33:47Push it to the chopper.

00:33:48Against that rope,

00:33:49fall off the rope

00:33:49with that right hand.

00:33:50Okay, baby?

00:33:51You ready?

00:33:52You ready?

00:33:52We did this before.

00:33:54Now, let's go again.

00:33:55Let's go again.

00:33:55Come on, baby.

00:33:56Come on.

00:33:58Earlier, you may recall

00:33:59I said the question

00:34:00about fighting at 168 pounds,

00:34:04his lowest weight

00:34:05as a professional

00:34:06for a very long time.

00:34:08The question is

00:34:08whether he can sustain it.

00:34:10Can he can fight

00:34:11at this pace

00:34:12at that rate?

00:34:13And so far,

00:34:14that is what is going

00:34:15to determine this fight.

00:34:17The tie has definitely changed.

00:34:19Tony has got his bag

00:34:20up across the rope.

00:34:21He's going to have

00:34:22to fight himself out of it.

00:34:23He's going to have

00:34:23to fight hard.

00:34:24He's not been able

00:34:26to establish a left jab,

00:34:27which means he is

00:34:29in the wrong fight tonight.

00:34:32The left five,

00:34:33James Tony,

00:34:33which is going to work

00:34:35on between rounds.

00:34:37He's the same eye.

00:34:38Which was badly,

00:34:39badly cut

00:34:40by the headbutt

00:34:42of Tim Littles

00:34:42back on March 5

00:34:44in Los Angeles.

00:34:46What you should know

00:34:47is when you lean forward,

00:34:49as Tony is doing now,

00:34:51and a guy straightens you up

00:34:53from that leaning position,

00:34:54it's like doing

00:34:55too many push-ups sit-ups.

00:34:58It can really tire you out.

00:35:00And that's what

00:35:00Chris Charles is doing.

00:35:02He's bringing him

00:35:02from the leaning position

00:35:03back up

00:35:04to the standing position.

00:35:05That hurts.

00:35:06Good accurate bunting

00:35:14inside by Tony there.

00:35:16Prince Charles Williams

00:35:17has also been busy

00:35:18in this round.

00:35:19Through the first five rounds,

00:35:21Williams threw

00:35:2223 more power punches

00:35:24than Tony.

00:35:25He's been able

00:35:26to stay busy,

00:35:27work at a high rate

00:35:29while leaning in inside.

00:35:31Tough fight to score,

00:35:32as Harold Letterman

00:35:33has already pointed out.

00:35:35A half away

00:35:37from the midway point.

00:35:38Come on, Tony.

00:35:39Come on, Tony.

00:35:40Come on, Tony.

00:35:40Come on.

00:35:41We're falling, man.

00:35:42Go for it.

00:35:42Yeah, let's get out.

00:35:43Let's get out.

00:35:44Let's get out.

00:35:44We're falling.

00:35:44We remind you,

00:35:45James Tony needs

00:35:46to win this fight

00:35:47to make a reality

00:35:48of a November 19 date

00:35:50with IVF midway champion

00:35:52Roy Jones Jr.

00:35:54There's been a lot

00:35:55of talk between the two.

00:35:57Apparent bad blood,

00:35:58a fight that everybody

00:35:59in boxing wants to see.

00:36:01But James has to win

00:36:02this fight first

00:36:02to make it happen.

00:36:03Between rounds,

00:36:04we'll be talking

00:36:05with Roy Jones.

00:36:07We got it.

00:36:08We got it, guys.

00:36:09We got it.

00:36:09Your hands are free, guys.

00:36:14Right back.

00:36:15Right back.

00:36:16We got it.

00:36:16Your hands are free, guys.

00:36:17Come on.

00:36:17We got it.

00:36:18Come on.

00:36:19George, to my eyes,

00:36:20at least,

00:36:20Williams hasn't slowed down

00:36:22much yet.

00:36:22Not at all.

00:36:23As a matter of fact,

00:36:24he seems to have

00:36:24captured his second win.

00:36:26And if he continues...

00:36:27Now Tony is establishing

00:36:28a left jail,

00:36:29which is his best fight.

00:36:31Ogrehand right by Tony

00:36:32landed flush

00:36:33on Prince Charles

00:36:34Williams' jump.

00:36:36Get out of here.

00:36:36Don't be on the bridge.

00:36:37Go on, Prince.

00:36:38Get out of there.

00:36:38If it's going to happen

00:36:39for Tony,

00:36:40it's going to happen

00:36:40behind that left jail.

00:36:47Another right hand

00:36:48by Tony.

00:36:49Let's go.

00:36:49Crowd beginning

00:36:50to get more interested

00:36:51as for a few moments

00:36:52at least,

00:36:52they fight in open space.

00:36:54Let him out,

00:36:55let him out, Prince.

00:37:01At this distance,

00:37:03James Tony appears

00:37:05the more skilled fighter.

00:37:06That's no big surprise,

00:37:08but the left eye

00:37:08is swollen almost shut

00:37:11for James Tony

00:37:12as he goes back

00:37:13to his court.

00:37:14Town, town, town, town.

00:37:15Just keep pushing the punches.

00:37:18Shut down, okay?

00:37:19Don't hit me to me

00:37:20in the crazy sack, right?

00:37:21Shut it down.

00:37:23Don't hit too much

00:37:24around.

00:37:24Shut it down, okay?

00:37:26Here, finally getting

00:37:27some distance.

00:37:28Tony throws that right hand,

00:37:29lands it flush

00:37:30on the jaw.

00:37:31But except for that

00:37:32brief exchange

00:37:34between them,

00:37:35this has been like

00:37:36a football game

00:37:37in which close lines

00:37:39are banging away

00:37:40at each other,

00:37:41trying to sustain

00:37:43mastery.

00:37:45Yep, this has been

00:37:47Michigan, Ohio State

00:37:48up to this point

00:37:49in cold weather.

00:37:51And meanwhile,

00:37:52we told you about

00:37:52Roy Jones

00:37:53and the date

00:37:54with James Tony,

00:37:55potentially November 19.

00:37:57Roy?

00:37:58How you doing?

00:37:59Welcome to ringside.

00:38:00What prompts you

00:38:01to be willing

00:38:03to surrender

00:38:03your IBF middleweight

00:38:04championship

00:38:05for the chance

00:38:06to fight Tony

00:38:06at 168?

00:38:07Well, it's not

00:38:09for sure

00:38:09that I am going

00:38:10to have to surrender

00:38:10my title

00:38:11because I do

00:38:13have a fight

00:38:13that King has won

00:38:14the bid with

00:38:15Bernard Hopkins.

00:38:17But Tony says

00:38:18he wants to fight

00:38:18me real bad

00:38:19and if that's so,

00:38:20I mean,

00:38:20I don't want to ever

00:38:21appear that I'm

00:38:21running from anybody

00:38:22so I'd be able

00:38:23to get my title

00:38:24up to take this one.

00:38:25This doesn't seem

00:38:25like it's going

00:38:26to be an easy

00:38:27title to take

00:38:28but I know I can

00:38:29because I am the man.

00:38:30He says he doesn't

00:38:30like you.

00:38:31He says he doesn't

00:38:32like all of the glory

00:38:33you've received

00:38:34as a past Olympic star.

00:38:35You feel the same

00:38:36way about him?

00:38:37He don't have any glory

00:38:38that I think

00:38:38that I should be jealous

00:38:39of because right now,

00:38:40like I said,

00:38:40I am the man.

00:38:41He's upset because

00:38:42I am the man

00:38:43and he's not

00:38:43and he has to come

00:38:44and beat the man

00:38:44to be the man.

00:38:45What do you think

00:38:46about the fight

00:38:46you're watching

00:38:46right here?

00:38:47It's a good sluggish

00:38:48fight because

00:38:49Prince Charles

00:38:50is pushing issues

00:38:50so much.

00:38:51He went out,

00:38:51he got coached

00:38:52Tony,

00:38:52made Tony tired

00:38:53early.

00:38:54Now,

00:38:54Tony is the better

00:38:55boxer with the hands

00:38:56but the pressure

00:38:57is making it

00:38:58very difficult

00:38:58because Prince

00:38:59is staying

00:38:59so close to him.

00:39:01With him staying

00:39:02that close,

00:39:02Tony is unable

00:39:03to land

00:39:04in real real

00:39:04power shots

00:39:05and it's being

00:39:06a difficult fight

00:39:07for Tony.

00:39:07That was an overhand

00:39:08but then he stops

00:39:10so it's going to tell

00:39:12what can happen.

00:39:13Prince Charles' eyes

00:39:13messed up now too

00:39:14but maybe Prince

00:39:15Charles is starting

00:39:16to slow a little bit.

00:39:17He does it overhand

00:39:18right that again

00:39:18does some damage

00:39:19as James gets some space

00:39:20and once again

00:39:22begins to open up.

00:39:22Final question,

00:39:23Roy,

00:39:24you lose a chance

00:39:25at a big payday

00:39:26if Prince Charles

00:39:27Williams wins the fight.

00:39:28You got to be

00:39:28rooting for Tony

00:39:29to win.

00:39:30Yes,

00:39:30I definitely want

00:39:31Tony to win the fight

00:39:32because Tony wants

00:39:33to showdown

00:39:33against the man,

00:39:34Roy John Jr.

00:39:35and I think

00:39:35it's prominent

00:39:37that he get it.

00:39:37There's no sense

00:39:39in him having

00:39:39to go up

00:39:40and wait

00:39:40before you get

00:39:41a chance

00:39:41to try it.

00:39:42The person

00:39:42that he admires

00:39:42most.

00:39:43Another good

00:39:44right hand

00:39:44inside by Tony.

00:39:45Roy,

00:39:45thanks very much

00:39:46for your time.

00:39:47Thank you very much

00:39:47to see you

00:39:47down the road.

00:39:48All right.

00:39:49All right.

00:39:50Roy Jones Jr.,

00:39:51IVF middleweight champion,

00:39:53potentially an opponent

00:39:54down the road

00:39:55for James Tony.

00:39:56Now let's get back

00:39:57to the action

00:39:57where George,

00:39:58the left eye

00:39:59of Prince Charles

00:39:59Williams

00:40:00is suddenly in trouble.

00:40:01That's right.

00:40:02Tony is taking

00:40:02control of it.

00:40:05How is he taking

00:40:06control?

00:40:06Well, he's starting

00:40:07to use his left jab

00:40:08and throw that right

00:40:09hand right over top.

00:40:10If he can continue

00:40:11to do that

00:40:11without this bumping

00:40:12and shoving football

00:40:13stuff, he could

00:40:14take control of this

00:40:15fight.

00:40:16He's landing

00:40:16important body shots,

00:40:18left hooks to the body.

00:40:19Tony is doing

00:40:20everything right,

00:40:20but he may have

00:40:21started it a little

00:40:22too late.

00:40:22Is it because of

00:40:23James' bodywork inside

00:40:25that Williams has

00:40:26chosen to back up

00:40:27and leave room

00:40:27on a few occasions?

00:40:28That's right.

00:40:29When you keep

00:40:29hitting a guy

00:40:30underneath that body,

00:40:31underneath those ribs,

00:40:32at some point,

00:40:32you've got to stop

00:40:33and protect yourself

00:40:34and cover up

00:40:34and stop that hurting.

00:40:36And it's opening up

00:40:37things good for

00:40:38James Tony.

00:40:40James Tony trying

00:40:41to show us

00:40:41he can win

00:40:42one more way.

00:40:44He's done it

00:40:44here on HBO

00:40:46just about every way

00:40:47imaginable.

00:40:49James Tony is

00:40:50measuring it

00:40:51and taking

00:40:52more conservative

00:40:53with his power.

00:40:55He lands two good

00:40:56shots.

00:40:56He doesn't go

00:40:56for four or five.

00:40:58He goes back

00:40:58to two good ones

00:40:59because if he

00:41:00burns himself

00:41:00out of pressure,

00:41:01he's in trouble.

00:41:04I thought that

00:41:05was a terrific

00:41:05round for Tony.

00:41:07Look,

00:41:08any fighter,

00:41:09no matter how

00:41:10good he is,

00:41:10can't just have

00:41:11his way out there.

00:41:12It depends what

00:41:13the opponent is doing.

00:41:14He's fighting

00:41:15a good opponent

00:41:15who is putting

00:41:17all that pressure

00:41:18on him and he's

00:41:18standing up to him

00:41:19and now he's

00:41:20getting his distance

00:41:21because he was

00:41:22able to stand

00:41:23up to him.

00:41:27James,

00:41:28how's the vision

00:41:28in that left eye?

00:41:29All good,

00:41:29baby.

00:41:43The commission

00:41:44doctor has just

00:41:45taken a look

00:41:45at Prince William's

00:41:47eye and said

00:41:48something to the

00:41:48referee.

00:41:49I'm President

00:41:50all good.

00:41:50You can smell a

00:41:51little bit.

00:41:51I did.

00:41:53Watch your

00:41:54head, baby.

00:41:54All right,

00:41:55seconds out.

00:41:57Seconds out.

00:41:57A little more

00:42:06boxing in round

00:42:07seven than had

00:42:08been the case

00:42:08up to that point.

00:42:10James Toney has

00:42:10now managed to land

00:42:1113 jabs in the fight.

00:42:13As round eight

00:42:14begins,

00:42:15they go back

00:42:16inside and very

00:42:17quickly,

00:42:18right here in the

00:42:18early stages of

00:42:19round eight,

00:42:19we turn to

00:42:20Harold Letterman

00:42:20for his scorecard.

00:42:21Harold,

00:42:21how you got it?

00:42:22Jim,

00:42:2267,

00:42:2366,

00:42:24four rounds to

00:42:25three.

00:42:25James Toney,

00:42:26he clearly won

00:42:27round six and

00:42:27seven by stepping

00:42:28back to landing

00:42:29hard right hands

00:42:30that we saw.

00:42:30And I'll tell you,

00:42:31up until the sixth

00:42:32round,

00:42:32three quarters of the

00:42:33punches,

00:42:33we didn't see

00:42:34what we saw

00:42:34as a guy's back.

00:42:35But I think that

00:42:36James is starting

00:42:36to step back,

00:42:37starting to get

00:42:38the distance

00:42:38and land the

00:42:38hard right

00:42:39and take control

00:42:39of the fight.

00:42:44I think James

00:42:45Toney is a better

00:42:46fighter than even

00:42:46he thinks himself

00:42:47that he is.

00:42:48But I think he

00:42:49proves that virtually

00:42:50every time out,

00:42:51because he faces

00:42:52so many different

00:42:53kinds of challenges

00:42:54and finds a way

00:42:55to win.

00:42:56I'm amazed.

00:42:57I'm truly amazed.

00:42:59Not to say he's

00:43:00won his fight,

00:43:01not by a long shot.

00:43:02Your hands are

00:43:03working out there.

00:43:04Come on,

00:43:04your hands are

00:43:04free, let's go.

00:43:05Let's go home.

00:43:07Another thing

00:43:08you've got to love

00:43:09about him,

00:43:09he's active

00:43:10because he's

00:43:11willing to fight

00:43:12tough opposition.

00:43:13James Toney

00:43:13doesn't run scared

00:43:14from anybody,

00:43:15Roy Jones Jr.

00:43:16included.

00:43:19Come on,

00:43:20get him out of there,

00:43:20guys.

00:43:20Come on,

00:43:21you're hitting him

00:43:21free.

00:43:21Let's go.

00:43:21Come on,

00:43:22let him out,

00:43:22come on.

00:43:23All right,

00:43:24break out,

00:43:24come on,

00:43:25break out.

00:43:25A little bit

00:43:25of a breather

00:43:26round so far

00:43:26in round eight

00:43:27for both

00:43:29Toney and Williams.

00:43:30Not quite as

00:43:30active a round

00:43:31as was round seven.

00:43:33Right up for

00:43:34cut by Williams,

00:43:35backs Toney up

00:43:36into the corner.

00:43:37Let's go,

00:43:39we're going there.

00:43:40Another body

00:43:42flurry by Toney.

00:43:44Both fighters

00:43:45have shown

00:43:45guts and grit

00:43:47and commitment.

00:43:49That's what

00:43:49Prince Charles

00:43:50don't want to be

00:43:51on the end

00:43:51of Toney's shot.

00:43:52He's got to

00:43:53keep that distance

00:43:53about a foot away

00:43:55and don't lose it.

00:43:57Now the crowd

00:43:58begins as

00:43:59for Chad Toney,

00:44:00Toney,

00:44:00Toney.

00:44:06Williams takes

00:44:06just a little bit

00:44:07longer to wind up

00:44:08and deliver the

00:44:09jab than is the

00:44:10case with James.

00:44:12He's out there

00:44:12working on the

00:44:13territory now.

00:44:15His fighters

00:44:16stand there

00:44:16even if you don't

00:44:17have the punching,

00:44:18just stay close.

00:44:18Prince,

00:44:19let him go,

00:44:19Prince.

00:44:19Come on,

00:44:20Prince.

00:44:20Let him go there.

00:44:22Come on,

00:44:22work out of there.

00:44:25Look at your head.

00:44:26Double left up right here.

00:44:28Work out.

00:44:32Work out.

00:44:36Work out.

00:44:36Work out of there.

00:44:39Now Toney should

00:44:41manage to stay

00:44:41on the side

00:44:42of the ropes

00:44:42and allow

00:44:43Williams to

00:44:44circle him

00:44:45and just keep

00:44:46throwing punches

00:44:46as he's going

00:44:47backwards

00:44:47rather than just

00:44:49laying on the ropes.

00:44:52Now he's decided

00:44:52to do it.

00:44:53Let's go backwards.

00:44:56It's like a moving

00:44:57punching bag

00:44:57into you.

00:45:04And after the

00:45:05foul right hand

00:45:06by Toney.

00:45:07Take no point.

00:45:08Take no point.

00:45:09And Joe

00:45:10Cortez

00:45:10elects to take

00:45:11a point away.

00:45:15So any and all

00:45:17good work

00:45:17that Toney

00:45:18had done

00:45:18in that round

00:45:19is squandered

00:45:20by that punch

00:45:21after the bell.

00:45:23But I think

00:45:24he didn't cause it.

00:45:25It was Prince Charles

00:45:25who initiated that.

00:45:27As soon as the bell rang,

00:45:28boom, he got Tony.

00:45:29It's picked up

00:45:30or she done.

00:45:31Yeah, but Toney

00:45:32retaliated, George.

00:45:33Yeah, man.

00:45:34So these young fighters,

00:45:35hey, they're not going to

00:45:36give you an edge like that.

00:45:37You've got to pay them back.

00:45:38He's got to pay them back.

00:45:39Let's take another listen

00:45:41to the end of round eight.

00:45:46Let's take another listen

00:45:46to the end of round eight.

00:45:51See?

00:45:53Prince Charles initiated it,

00:45:54so I think that the referee

00:45:56may have missed it,

00:45:57been on the wrong side.

00:45:58He would have taken a point

00:45:59from each

00:45:59or not take a point at all.

00:46:01I agree, George.

00:46:02I think he jumped the gun

00:46:03in a little bit.

00:46:06Nevertheless,

00:46:07it costs Tony a point

00:46:08and makes it

00:46:10still anybody's fight

00:46:12or so it would appear to us

00:46:14going into the ninth.

00:46:20Get him out of there.

00:46:21Get him out of there.

00:46:31Tony is doing something

00:46:32very interesting.

00:46:33moves farther

00:46:34and on the rope

00:46:35on the left side

00:46:36of his opponent,

00:46:38making him push

00:46:38with that left hand

00:46:39so he has the dead

00:46:40in that left jab.

00:46:44That's pretty subtle stuff,

00:46:46George.

00:46:46That's what you do.

00:46:47You stay on the left side

00:46:48and make him

00:46:49dead in that hand

00:46:50so it moves a lot

00:46:51of the reflexes

00:46:52out of it.

00:46:53Keep moving to the left.

00:46:54You go to the head

00:47:03in here, George,

00:47:04or just keep sticking

00:47:05to the body.

00:47:08Tony is doing real good.

00:47:09He's staying down

00:47:10to the body,

00:47:11landing good

00:47:11in part of the shot.

00:47:12Then he comes back up

00:47:13to finish it all up.

00:47:14Prince William

00:47:15is doing his fight.

00:47:16He's staying close.

00:47:17He keeps Tony away

00:47:17from turning

00:47:18at the right hand

00:47:18on what he likes to do.

00:47:20Tony ends up

00:47:21chopping him with it.

00:47:22That doesn't hurt

00:47:22as much as that

00:47:23long right hand.

00:47:25Joe Cortez

00:47:26broke him apart

00:47:27momentarily.

00:47:28James Tony tried

00:47:28to keep Prince Charles

00:47:29winning his way

00:47:30with a jab.

00:47:31Charles just pulled

00:47:32him into the ropes.

00:47:34The right hand

00:47:34misses inside

00:47:35for Williams.

00:47:36He would have done

00:47:36some damage

00:47:37if it had landed.

00:47:37Punch it work out.

00:47:38Punch it work out of that.

00:47:39Oh, we're holding

00:47:41inside, guys.

00:47:42We're holding inside.

00:47:42You see Tony's eyes

00:48:04start to swell

00:48:04when the other guy

00:48:05keeps his head

00:48:06right on Tony's

00:48:07left eye.

00:48:09He's not doing it

00:48:09with punches.

00:48:10He's swelling them up

00:48:10by leaning on his head.

00:48:12Come on.

00:48:16He'll beat the Tony

00:48:17that finished

00:48:18turning the other

00:48:19side of his cheek

00:48:19here to the other

00:48:21still on that side

00:48:22for a while.

00:48:24But maybe he wouldn't

00:48:25see what he wants

00:48:26to see if he did that.

00:48:27But he would

00:48:28totally upon it

00:48:28I'll just do

00:48:29something different

00:48:30for a while.

00:48:31Punch it work out.

00:48:32Punch it work out.

00:48:32Old trick there.

00:48:33Lay on the guy's eye.

00:48:34Solid right hand

00:48:35by Tony.

00:48:36Good left uppercut

00:48:37as well.

00:48:38We're holding inside.

00:48:39Get him out of there.

00:48:43Come on.

00:48:43Let's go.

00:48:44Get him out.

00:48:46Get him out.

00:48:51A little breathing

00:48:52space for Tony.

00:48:53He tries a left

00:48:54and a right.

00:48:56Williams misses

00:48:57over the top

00:48:57to the right

00:48:58lands a left hand.

00:49:03Tony flurrying again

00:49:05just as the round

00:49:06came to a close.

00:49:07next month

00:49:08incidentally

00:49:08here on HBO

00:49:09the return of

00:49:10Riddick Bowe

00:49:10former champion's

00:49:12first fight

00:49:12it's his stunning

00:49:13defeat at the hands

00:49:14of Evander Holyfield

00:49:16last November.

00:49:17Don't miss

00:49:18the comeback

00:49:18Riddick Bowe

00:49:19versus Buster

00:49:20Mathis Jr.

00:49:21Saturday August 13

00:49:22live on HBO.

00:49:24That's right

00:49:25Buster Mathis Jr.

00:49:28Riddick Bowe

00:49:28August 13.

00:49:30A little water buggy.

00:49:31Water buggy.

00:49:32Water buggy.

00:49:34Why are you trying?

00:49:35Yeah I hit him.

00:49:35Go.

00:49:36I hit him hard.

00:49:37I hit him hard.

00:49:38Relax this thing.

00:49:39Relax okay.

00:49:40Relax him.

00:49:40Don't get hit okay.

00:49:42Just keep going.

00:49:42You can stand open

00:49:43and take it.

00:49:43But don't punch.

00:49:45Okay.

00:49:45Don't punch.

00:49:47You can come on strong.

00:49:48Alright.

00:49:52I'm off the roof.

00:49:53Let's move.

00:49:54Alright circuit's out.

00:49:55I'm not sure

00:49:55what I'm hearing

00:49:56from that corner

00:49:57from Prince

00:49:58Williams corner.

00:49:58Don't punch.

00:49:59They're saying

00:50:00to him.

00:50:01Either they think

00:50:02he's awfully tired

00:50:03and they want to

00:50:04give him a round

00:50:04to rest

00:50:05to finish strong

00:50:06or I just

00:50:08don't get it.

00:50:09Let's see what

00:50:09they do

00:50:10and we'll be able

00:50:11to interpret that.

00:50:12I think that's

00:50:13exactly it.

00:50:13I think they want him

00:50:14to try to take

00:50:15a breather in this round

00:50:16and finish strong

00:50:17in the 11th from 12th.

00:50:18Do you think so George?

00:50:19No doubt about it.

00:50:19At some point or another

00:50:20he had to take a breather

00:50:22but at this time

00:50:23I don't think it's going

00:50:24to help him that much

00:50:25because if Tony continues

00:50:26to win this round

00:50:27and pile off points

00:50:28it's going to cost him

00:50:29this round

00:50:29and it's very important

00:50:30to take initiative

00:50:31win it

00:50:32clearly

00:50:32then the judges

00:50:33are going to have

00:50:33some cause to wonder

00:50:35who won this round.

00:50:36Yeah.

00:50:37How many points

00:50:37is he piling up

00:50:38in a tough fight

00:50:39to score

00:50:39as Hal Letterman

00:50:40has pointed out

00:50:41in a fight

00:50:41where he's lost a point

00:50:42because of a punch

00:50:43after the bell.

00:50:44Yeah but you cannot

00:50:45wait man

00:50:45hold off

00:50:46because if he wins

00:50:47this round

00:50:47convincingly Tony

00:50:48it's in the judges

00:50:49and they're going

00:50:50to give it to him.

00:50:52I don't know

00:50:52where they gave him

00:50:53that advice.

00:50:53Well if he stays busy

00:50:54he's going to win

00:50:55this round convincingly

00:50:56because Williams

00:50:57appears content

00:50:58to listen to his

00:50:59corner's advice

00:50:59and isn't throwing

00:51:00as many punches

00:51:01as was the case before.

00:51:04Too bad Tony

00:51:05didn't hear

00:51:05what Prince Williams

00:51:07corner told him.

00:51:08And that seems

00:51:09to be an acknowledgement

00:51:10of the fact

00:51:11that it's very difficult

00:51:12to sustain this pace

00:51:13under any event

00:51:15but after you've

00:51:17taken weight off

00:51:18as much as he's

00:51:19taken it's even harder.

00:51:20That's true.

00:51:21Because even though

00:51:22we have air conditioning

00:51:23here the heat

00:51:24is creeping in

00:51:25in this arena.

00:51:27Unbelievable heat.

00:51:29It was 110 degrees

00:51:30outside yesterday

00:51:31110 degrees

00:51:33outside again today.

00:51:34It's a real 110.

00:51:35It's not the so-called

00:51:36dry heat

00:51:37that you can't feel.

00:51:38It's aggressive.

00:51:40It was so hot

00:51:40I went into the sauna

00:51:41to cool off Jim.

00:51:43You'd sooner be

00:51:45in a sauna.

00:51:48No doubt

00:51:49Chris Williams

00:51:50is going to try it all

00:51:51in the next two rounds

00:51:52but hey

00:51:52the judges

00:51:53are going to be

00:51:53looking at this round

00:51:54more than the next two rounds.

00:51:56Just to confirm

00:51:57incidentally

00:51:57we are indoors tonight

00:51:59amid glorious air conditioning

00:52:01but still

00:52:02it's hot.

00:52:03Tony is doing a job

00:52:18he's landing hard shots

00:52:19to make Prince Williams

00:52:20make him throw some hard shots

00:52:21so he'll be winning

00:52:22the next round.

00:52:23It's the first

00:52:24genuinely easy round

00:52:26of the fight

00:52:26for the champion

00:52:27James Toney.

00:52:30Williams has thrown some

00:52:32but has mostly missed.

00:52:33Tony far busier

00:52:34in this round

00:52:35and landing effectively.

00:52:37And smart enough

00:52:38to do a lot of faking

00:52:39more so than throwing punches.

00:52:41He'll land two shots

00:52:41and then fake like

00:52:42he's doing a lot.

00:52:43The judges may

00:52:44see that

00:52:45that's throwing shots.

00:52:46Williams seemed

00:52:55in the last minute

00:52:56of the round

00:52:56to realize that

00:52:57perhaps he was

00:52:58giving away too much

00:52:59went back to throwing

00:53:00more punches

00:53:01but by that time

00:53:02the damage may have

00:53:04been done

00:53:04as James Toney

00:53:05appears to take

00:53:07round 10

00:53:07in what could be

00:53:08a very close fight.

00:53:11Not on my scorecard Jim.

00:53:15Not close.

00:53:16I think Tony

00:53:17has beaten him

00:53:18in his own game.

00:53:20Harold Letterman

00:53:20do you think

00:53:21Tony is beating

00:53:22Williams in his own game?

00:53:23Larry I've got it

00:53:246-3-1 even

00:53:2596-93

00:53:27James Toney.

00:53:28I mean

00:53:29from round 6 on

00:53:30he's landing

00:53:31the crisp hard

00:53:32right hands.

00:53:33You know

00:53:33the fight has really

00:53:34been fought in the trenches.

00:53:35I mean

00:53:35you know

00:53:35toe-to-toe

00:53:36head-to-head

00:53:36but every time

00:53:38James has stepped back

00:53:39from the 6th round on

00:53:39he's landed the shots

00:53:41that grabbed the judge's eyes

00:53:42and if you watch

00:53:43the three judges

00:53:43they're really straining

00:53:44to see these guys

00:53:45because they're leaning

00:53:46on each other.

00:53:46But I'll tell you

00:53:47from 6 on

00:53:48it seems to be

00:53:48Tony's right hand.

00:53:50George you in sync

00:53:50with these guys?

00:53:52Definitely.

00:53:52I see it the same way.

00:53:54I think we'll see

00:53:55a desperation round

00:53:57by Prince William

00:53:58here to make

00:53:58something happen.

00:54:00It's Prince Charles.

00:54:02Prince William

00:54:02Prince Charles.

00:54:03There you have it.

00:54:21Prince Charles has started

00:54:40to pick up the pace

00:54:41but he's not going to get

00:54:42a knockout in that fashion.

00:54:44That 10th round

00:54:45was a very important round

00:54:46he should have taken

00:54:47charge more so.

00:54:48Well he did what his

00:54:49corner told him to do

00:54:50or so it would appear

00:54:51and he's using the energy

00:54:53now.

00:54:55Tony is sticking

00:54:55right with him

00:54:56as you see.

00:54:57Tony is like

00:54:58some of those

00:54:58good basketball players.

00:54:59They'll go through

00:55:00you to bump him

00:55:00then they shoot.

00:55:02He's waiting for them.

00:55:03If you don't bump him

00:55:04he's not going to throw

00:55:05a lot to you.

00:55:05Come on, come on Prince.

00:55:06Come on, Prince.

00:55:07Let him go, Johnny.

00:55:08Let him go!

00:55:09George, I didn't know

00:55:10you were a basketball

00:55:11aficionado.

00:55:12I just learned

00:55:13how to bump him.

00:55:15Well you're from Houston

00:55:16everybody from Houston

00:55:17is a basketball

00:55:18aficionado now.

00:55:19These days anyway.

00:55:20Is there anyone

00:55:20who doubts that

00:55:21George's style

00:55:22would play well

00:55:23in the NBA

00:55:23the way the game

00:55:24is being played

00:55:25right now?

00:55:31Halfway through

00:55:32round 11.

00:55:34Solid round

00:55:35so far for Tony

00:55:36even though

00:55:36Prince Charles

00:55:37Williams

00:55:37has tried to be

00:55:38active again.

00:55:39and there was

00:55:39a good right hand

00:55:40inside by the champion.

00:55:42Tony is very smart.

00:55:44He's using the

00:55:44power right hand

00:55:45in the last couple

00:55:46rounds.

00:55:49Finding

00:55:49punching range

00:55:50now.

00:55:51Williams apparently

00:55:52too tired

00:55:53to go in

00:55:53and lean on

00:55:54Tony as he did

00:55:54throughout most

00:55:55of the fight

00:55:56and James

00:55:56Tony taking

00:55:57maximum advantage.

00:55:59Which is great

00:55:59because when

00:56:00William was coasting

00:56:01Tony coasted

00:56:02too.

00:56:02Now the coasting

00:56:03is over.

00:56:04Tony decided

00:56:04I'm giving you

00:56:05something to add

00:56:06to you.

00:56:07A wasting of

00:56:08energy

00:56:08which was very

00:56:09small.

00:56:09He did not

00:56:10try to land

00:56:10a power punch

00:56:11when William

00:56:12was coasting

00:56:12and he just

00:56:13died.

00:56:13he slips a punch

00:56:20there.

00:56:21Ducks another

00:56:21one there

00:56:22and keeps

00:56:23coming back

00:56:23with brilliant

00:56:24counter punches

00:56:25of his own.

00:56:26It's amazing

00:56:26to see a young

00:56:27fellow that's

00:56:28amazing.

00:56:29You just don't

00:56:30see that often.

00:56:31He's young

00:56:32and he's crap.

00:56:33I don't understand

00:56:34how he's

00:56:35got that.

00:56:35watching all

00:56:37those old

00:56:37as it shows

00:56:38how could he

00:56:41have known

00:56:41that Chris

00:56:42was coasting

00:56:43in the previous

00:56:44round.

00:56:44It's amazing.

00:56:49I didn't hear his

00:56:50call to tell him

00:56:51about it.

00:56:52James Tony

00:56:53beginning to take

00:56:54command in round

00:56:5511.

00:56:56Solid left

00:56:57right combinations

00:56:58carrying the

00:56:59round for the

00:56:59champion.

00:57:00I want one

00:57:11more round like

00:57:12that.

00:57:13I want one

00:57:14more round like

00:57:15that and we'll go

00:57:16away from here

00:57:16with our belt.

00:57:17Last round.

00:57:18Bring him in.

00:57:21Last round.

00:57:22Last round we

00:57:23touch him up.

00:57:26Touch with one

00:57:26hand baby.

00:57:28Touch with one

00:57:28hand.

00:57:29Give the other

00:57:29hand high.

00:57:30Okay.

00:57:35I want it.

00:57:36I got to have

00:57:37it.

00:57:39All right.

00:57:40Give me three

00:57:40minutes like that.

00:57:42I must have it.

00:57:43You're the boss.

00:57:45You're the house.

00:57:47Give me three

00:57:49minutes now.

00:57:51Keep the hand

00:57:52moving.

00:57:52Let's repeat

00:57:53history.

00:57:54Let's repeat

00:57:54history baby.

00:57:55Come on.

00:57:56Bill Miller

00:57:59said about

00:57:59the prince here.

00:58:04You can't cook

00:58:05with old grease.

00:58:07And right now

00:58:08the old grease

00:58:09is looking a bit

00:58:10like old grease.

00:58:12And Tony is doing

00:58:13the cooking.

00:58:14He felt the wrong

00:58:15fight for the wrong

00:58:17part of it.

00:58:17This is the time you

00:58:18want to stay close

00:58:19in the lateral round.

00:58:20Build up your points

00:58:21early on with nice

00:58:21long jab.

00:58:22You have a greater

00:58:23reach.

00:58:23He didn't do so.

00:58:24Well they were operating

00:58:26under the theory

00:58:27that you could out

00:58:28hustle James, Tony.

00:58:29Maybe you could a couple

00:58:30years ago or three years

00:58:31ago before he moved up

00:58:32to this weight where he's

00:58:33so comfortable.

00:58:34but that's awfully tough

00:58:35now.

00:58:37You're absolutely

00:58:38true.

00:58:39This guy is not only

00:58:40energetic but he is

00:58:42also crafty.

00:58:43It just doesn't go with

00:58:44him.

00:58:44In the 11th round

00:58:47Tony threw 90 punches

00:58:48to 59 for Williams.

00:58:50By stepping up

00:58:51his activity level

00:58:52in the second half

00:58:53of the fight

00:58:54James, Tony has

00:58:55seized command.

00:59:00Now he has Williams

00:59:01following him around

00:59:02right into his right

00:59:03hand.

00:59:03Whenever he wants

00:59:04to deliver it,

00:59:05it's there for him.

00:59:06And Tony's superior

00:59:07skills as a counter

00:59:08puncher can play

00:59:10into this situation

00:59:11perfectly.

00:59:15Both corners did

00:59:16a great job

00:59:17on fixing the eyes.

00:59:20Good point.

00:59:22I think that

00:59:23Williams was

00:59:24confused.

00:59:25He thought that

00:59:26leaning on Tony

00:59:27would be in

00:59:27telling him out.

00:59:28He didn't understand

00:59:29he's not a light

00:59:29heavyweight.

00:59:30He is right there

00:59:32the same weight.

00:59:33But he didn't have

00:59:34any other choice

00:59:34I feel, George,

00:59:35because Tony's

00:59:37skills are just

00:59:38too good for him

00:59:39from a distance.

00:59:40I see it that way

00:59:41right now.

00:59:42I think that's

00:59:43entirely right.

00:59:43If he had fought

00:59:44this way from the

00:59:45beginning, he would

00:59:46have gotten taken

00:59:46to the cleaners.

00:59:47Now Williams acting

00:59:48a little bit.

00:59:49But that's okay.

00:59:50James, Tony doesn't

00:59:51need the satisfaction

00:59:52of a knockout

00:59:53at this point.

00:59:54He's perfectly willing

00:59:55to surge forward,

00:59:56get a decision,

00:59:57and move toward

00:59:57that November 19th

00:59:59payday with Roy Jones, Jr.

01:00:03I think Tony has proven

01:00:05that he can box

01:00:06his way out of anything.

01:00:08This was a heck

01:00:09of a test

01:00:09because he faced

01:00:11a strategic challenge

01:00:13unlike anything else

01:00:14he's faced recently.

01:00:15Yeah, he did a lot

01:00:16of it on his own.

01:00:18That's what amazes

01:00:19everybody.

01:00:19Tony is a great

01:00:20fighter.

01:00:21Now,

01:00:21he adjusted in the

01:00:25ring, didn't he?

01:00:26And his legs are

01:00:26strong at this point.

01:00:28Let him out, let him

01:00:29out.

01:00:29Don't be on the

01:00:29head.

01:00:30Don't hold the head

01:00:30down.

01:00:30Let's go.

01:00:32Chris Williams got

01:00:33nothing to be ashamed

01:00:34of.

01:00:34This guy is a smart

01:00:35fighter.

01:00:37Oh, what a right

01:00:38hand.

01:00:38Three, four, five,

01:00:43six, seven, eight, nine,

01:00:48ten.

01:00:50We're watching a great

01:00:51fighter, guys.

01:00:54I mean, this guy took

01:00:55the other guy's best,

01:00:56his strength, his

01:00:57experience, a bigger

01:00:58man.

01:00:59He stuck in there with

01:01:01him.

01:01:02And then when the time

01:01:03came, he finished him.

01:01:05It's just, it's not a

01:01:06great crowd-pleasing

01:01:07fight.

01:01:08But boy, it was a

01:01:09crowd-pleasing finish.

01:01:10It was everything I would

01:01:11like to see in a boxing

01:01:12match.

01:01:14James Toney, in his

01:01:15career, has several

01:01:16knockouts past the

01:01:18ninth round.

01:01:19I don't remember for

01:01:20sure.

01:01:20I think the number is

01:01:21four or five.

01:01:22He knocked out

01:01:23Michael Dunn to win

01:01:23the title in the

01:01:24eleventh round.

01:01:25Here he knocks out

01:01:26Prince Charles

01:01:27Williams in the

01:01:28twelfth round.

01:01:29You don't see a lot of

01:01:30fighters who can do

01:01:31it, guys.

01:01:32This guy sets you up

01:01:33over a long period of

01:01:34time, maintains his

01:01:36stamina and control,

01:01:37and then finishes when

01:01:38the opportunity is

01:01:39there.

01:01:40This is a throwback

01:01:41to old fighters who

01:01:42would do all kinds of

01:01:43tricks and then finish

01:01:44you off because of your

01:01:45mistakes.

01:01:46Let's take another look

01:01:48at the knockout, George,

01:01:49and how James was able

01:01:50to set up and land this

01:01:51right hand.

01:01:52The main thing he has

01:01:53Williams following him

01:01:54around.

01:01:55The guy follow you

01:01:55around, he's open for

01:01:57a right hand.

01:01:58You never follow a

01:01:59puncher.

01:02:00It was a tremendous

01:02:01shot.

01:02:02Prince Charles

01:02:03Williams appeared eager

01:02:04to get up toward the end

01:02:05of that count.

01:02:06Referee Joe Cortez

01:02:08appeared quite satisfied

01:02:10to count him out.

01:02:13And keep in mind that

01:02:14one week ago, Robert

01:02:16Wangila of Kenya died

01:02:18after a fight here in

01:02:19Las Vegas.

01:02:20You can expect the

01:02:21Nevada State Athletic

01:02:22Commission to remain

01:02:23quite wary for a while

01:02:26about fighters who are

01:02:27hurt in the late rounds.

01:02:28Now let's go to Michael

01:02:30Buffer for the official

01:02:31decision.

01:02:31Ladies and gentlemen,

01:02:35referee Joe Cortez reaches

01:02:37the count of ten.

01:02:38The official time, two

01:02:40minutes, 45 seconds of

01:02:43round number 12.

01:02:45The winner and still

01:02:47RBF super middleweight

01:02:49champion of the world,

01:02:52James Lights Out,

01:02:55Tony.

01:02:57Tony.

01:03:01And with the knockout

01:03:04victory, Tony sets up

01:03:05his November 19 showdown

01:03:08with former Olympic star

01:03:10Roy Jones Jr.,

01:03:12middleweight champion

01:03:13of the IBF.

01:03:15It'll be Jones who will

01:03:16have to come up eight

01:03:17pounds in weight to

01:03:19fight James Toney.

01:03:20Many believe that it's

01:03:21the right move for Roy

01:03:22Jones, who appears to

01:03:23have been having trouble

01:03:24making the 160-pound

01:03:26middleweight limit.

01:03:27Final punch stat numbers,

01:03:29James Toney landed 80

01:03:30more blows,

01:03:31through more than

01:03:32200, or no,

01:03:34more than 120 more

01:03:35blows than was the case

01:03:37for Prince Charles

01:03:39Williams.

01:03:40More than 200 more

01:03:41blows.

01:03:42I'll get my math right

01:03:43here in a minute.

01:03:43Percentage is pretty

01:03:44close.

01:03:45Williams landing at a

01:03:45high percentage because

01:03:46they fought so much

01:03:47inside.

01:03:48The end of the story,

01:03:49the great right hand

01:03:50with 15 or 25 seconds

01:03:52to go in the fight by

01:03:53Tony that scored the

01:03:53knockout.

01:03:54Now let's go up to

01:03:55Larry Merchant in the

01:03:56ring with the winner

01:03:57and still champ,

01:03:58James Toney.

01:03:59James.

01:03:59Yes, sir.

01:04:00That was great stuff.

01:04:02Describe the fight up

01:04:03until the end, that

01:04:05grueling inside fight.

01:04:06Well, you know, I kind

01:04:08of expected an inside

01:04:09fight, you know, because

01:04:10from his performance, you

01:04:11don't know how to do

01:04:12nothing but come straight

01:04:12ahead like I ran

01:04:13Barker.

01:04:13So we was prepared.

01:04:15I was prepared to go 12

01:04:16rounds if I have to.

01:04:17And I knew how my

01:04:18strength would get

01:04:18overwhelming sooner or

01:04:20later, you know.

01:04:21Me and Pops worked on

01:04:22the game plans to use

01:04:23short inside shots on

01:04:24the inside.

01:04:25Were you expecting him

01:04:26to try to out-busy you

01:04:28and put his weight on

01:04:29you?

01:04:29That's Prince Charles.

01:04:30You know, that's the only

01:04:31way he knows how to fight.

01:04:32He's a stupid fighter.

01:04:34You know, like I said,

01:04:35I can adapt to any

01:04:36style, no matter what.

01:04:38All right, we're going

01:04:38to take a look at the

01:04:39knockout.

01:04:40Did you sense at the end

01:04:41that he was weakening and

01:04:42ready?

01:04:42Definitely.

01:04:43He was weakening by the

01:04:44ninth round.

01:04:45You know, I was able to

01:04:46pick my shots.

01:04:46You know, bam, right

01:04:47hand.

01:04:47Ooh, God.

01:04:48Right hand, right on the

01:04:49tip of him.

01:04:49He was gone.

01:04:50The London Bridge came

01:04:52falling down on that

01:04:53shot right there.

01:04:54He crumbled.

01:04:55Not been working on

01:04:55no shot in the gym.

01:04:56Bam, look at that.

01:04:56Oh, Jesus.

01:04:58Freight train.

01:04:59Freight train right

01:05:00hand.

01:05:02And as you know,

01:05:03and as you know,

01:05:03I threw that right

01:05:04hand backing up.

01:05:05Not too many fighters

01:05:05can do that today.

01:05:06How tough is that

01:05:08kind of a fight?

01:05:09You fought every kind

01:05:10of a fight.

01:05:10You had to pull out

01:05:11the fight against

01:05:12Tim Littles when

01:05:13your eye was cut.

01:05:14Did you sense that

01:05:15the crowd was unhappy

01:05:16because even though it

01:05:17was a tough fight,

01:05:18it's hard for them to

01:05:19see what's going on

01:05:20and you want to give

01:05:21them something to

01:05:22remember you by?

01:05:23Yeah, you know,

01:05:24the fight was, you know,

01:05:24the fans was kind of

01:05:25on the apprehensive side

01:05:27because he was holding

01:05:28and stuff like that.

01:05:28I was trying my best

01:05:29to fight.

01:05:31Excuse me.

01:05:31You know, I came here

01:05:32to fight.

01:05:33You know, I'm not the

01:05:34kind of person who likes

01:05:35to hold in fights.

01:05:36That's not me.

01:05:37Holdings for sissies.

01:05:38A few words about

01:05:39your upcoming Titanic

01:05:41showdown with Roy Jones.

01:05:43Well, it's on.

01:05:43It's on, baby.

01:05:44187.

01:05:45Roy Jones and James

01:05:46told him November 19th,

01:05:47the fight that everybody

01:05:47want to see is going

01:05:48to happen.

01:05:49Excuse me,

01:05:50November 19th,

01:05:51you know, you said

01:05:52I better James

01:05:52Tony that night.

01:05:53I guarantee it.

01:05:54You'll see it.

01:05:54We'll see it better,

01:05:55James Tony.

01:05:56How was that?

01:05:56A lot better James

01:05:57Tony.

01:05:57James Tony was sick

01:05:59tonight.

01:05:59You know, I got the flu.

01:06:01But nobody knew that.

01:06:03Not even Jackie know.

01:06:04How bad was the flu?

01:06:05And what were its...

01:06:07I was throwing up all

01:06:08week, you know.

01:06:09Jackie knows about the

01:06:09throwing up and everything.

01:06:10But you know me,

01:06:10I'm no great champion.

01:06:11I don't like to pull out.

01:06:13You know, I don't want to

01:06:13make Bob Aaron mad.

01:06:14And then we both have to

01:06:15go to blows.

01:06:15Me and him have to go to

01:06:16blows if I pull out of a fight.

01:06:17We don't want that.

01:06:19It wasn't a long...

01:06:19I wasn't here at the show

01:06:20anywhere.

01:06:20Wasn't a long, grueling fight

01:06:22dangerous for you if...

01:06:23Man, ain't no fight

01:06:24grueling for James Tony.

01:06:25It's dangerous for me

01:06:25because, you know,

01:06:26like I said,

01:06:26I'm not afraid of nobody.

01:06:27I take on all challenges

01:06:28anytime, anywhere.

01:06:29I'm the best fighter in the

01:06:30world and I'm ready to

01:06:30prove against anybody.

01:06:31Anybody.

01:06:32Not too many fighters out

01:06:33there will say that

01:06:34or do that.

01:06:35You know, I'm not one

01:06:36to say Bob Aaron,

01:06:37give me somebody easy.

01:06:38I want the best fighter

01:06:38out there.

01:06:39If somebody think they

01:06:40better than me,

01:06:40come on, step up and

01:06:41prove it.

01:06:42James...

01:06:43That's what it's all about.

01:06:43James, when you...

01:06:44How about me, baby?

01:06:45How you feel?

01:06:46When you prove it in the

01:06:47ring, it ain't bragging.

01:06:50All right, James,

01:06:54congratulations to you

01:06:56on that performance.

01:06:57Let's turn around and

01:06:57say hi to the man.

01:06:58He says he's been

01:06:59bothered by the flu all

01:07:00week.

01:07:00You find that hard to

01:07:01believe?

01:07:01Oh, I don't believe that.

01:07:02If he has the flu,

01:07:03everybody should catch

01:07:04some.

01:07:05Yeah, I'd like to get

01:07:06some myself.

01:07:07Had trouble with the flu,

01:07:08then says he has

01:07:09trouble making weight.

01:07:10Well, we know that.

01:07:10He was two pounds over

01:07:11yesterday and then has

01:07:12to fight a first six or

01:07:13seven rounds like that

01:07:14and comes on to score

01:07:15the knockout.

01:07:16Pretty impressive stuff.

01:07:17I'm awful impressed.

01:07:18I never thought he

01:07:19would have that kind of

01:07:19energy being leaned on

01:07:21for so many rounds.

01:07:22He came out, not only

01:07:23he was able to set it up

01:07:24by making a guy follow

01:07:25him, but I never thought

01:07:26he'd have that kind of

01:07:27power in the last round.

01:07:28No way.

01:07:29All right, George,

01:07:29you've seen Roy Jones,

01:07:31Jr.

01:07:31Great punching power,

01:07:33a lot of athletic talent.

01:07:34James is maybe the more

01:07:35polished boxer.

01:07:36Who's your early favorite

01:07:37for that fight?

01:07:38I don't think there's a

01:07:39boxer active today.

01:07:41That is as good as

01:07:42James Toney.

01:07:43He's the best fighter

01:07:44I've seen, and I don't

01:07:45say that much.

01:07:45So you just moved him

01:07:46past Purnell Whitaker

01:07:47to number one on the list.

01:07:48Because he has that

01:07:49magic thing called

01:07:49punching power.

01:07:50Yep.

01:07:51And you just got to put

01:07:52that, and generally

01:07:52when a guy can punch hard,

01:07:54he doesn't have the

01:07:54ability to box like that.

01:07:55This guy is truly

01:07:57amazing today.

01:07:58I think if anything,

01:07:59his punching power

01:08:00seems to be increasing

01:08:01too.

01:08:01I cannot believe it.

01:08:02Yep.

01:08:03All right.

01:08:03Great job, George.

01:08:04Purnell Whitaker's great now.

01:08:06Yeah, I know.

01:08:06We know.

01:08:06We'll talk to Purnell again.

01:08:08Larry, your final thoughts

01:08:09on a terrific evening.

01:08:11Well, if it's hot outside,

01:08:13and it's hot outside,

01:08:15we had some hot action

01:08:16in here tonight as well.

01:08:18First, a word about

01:08:19young Oscar De La Hoya.

01:08:22I think the pendulum

01:08:23quickly swung back

01:08:25tonight to those people

01:08:27who feel that he is

01:08:29a coming star.

01:08:31When I see him in person

01:08:34up this close,

01:08:35I get the feeling

01:08:36that I'm watching

01:08:37Michelangelo's David

01:08:39stripped down.

01:08:40And although he hasn't

01:08:43beaten any Giants yet,

01:08:45he hasn't slain the big guys,

01:08:47he slew a very tough

01:08:50little guy tonight.

01:08:51And I think that

01:08:53we'll see his career

01:08:55catapult ahead

01:08:56in the next six months

01:08:58to nine months.

01:08:59About James Toney,

01:09:01we've thrown him

01:09:01about every Iconium

01:09:02we could tonight.

01:09:04He has become

01:09:05just a terrific

01:09:07professional fighter

01:09:08who can fight anybody

01:09:10with any style,

01:09:12stay in there,

01:09:14impose his will,

01:09:15his strength,

01:09:16his skill,

01:09:17his great ambition

01:09:19to be a great fighter

01:09:20on any opponent

01:09:22he's in there

01:09:23right now.

01:09:24But I think a good

01:09:25argument can be made

01:09:26that he will be facing

01:09:28his most difficult

01:09:30opposition

01:09:31when he fights

01:09:31Roy Jones

01:09:32who has amazing skills,

01:09:35amazing reflexes,

01:09:37and power.

01:09:38So, good night,

01:09:39and we're looking ahead

01:09:40to good nights,

01:09:41more of them.

01:09:42November 19,

01:09:43a lot of boxing fans

01:09:44marking that date

01:09:45down tonight

01:09:46as we look ahead

01:09:47to James Toney

01:09:47and Roy Jones.

01:09:48All right,

01:09:49we'll be back

01:09:50in just a moment

01:09:51to wrap up

01:09:51the evening in boxing

01:09:52right now.

01:09:53Let's take a look ahead

01:09:54to a huge entertainment

01:09:56event upcoming

01:09:56on HBO.

01:09:59All right, James,

01:10:01congratulations to you

01:10:03on that performance.

01:10:04Let's turn around

01:10:04and say hi to the man.

01:10:05He says he's been bothered

01:10:06by the flu all week.

01:10:07Do you find that hard

01:10:08to believe?

01:10:08Oh, I don't believe that.

01:10:09If he has the flu,

01:10:10everybody should catch some.

01:10:12Yeah, I'd like to

01:10:13catch some myself.

01:10:14Had trouble with the flu?

01:10:15Ben says he has

01:10:16trouble making weight.

01:10:17Well, we know that.

01:10:17He was two pounds

01:10:18over yesterday

01:10:19and then has to fight

01:10:20a first six or seven rounds

01:10:21like that and comes on

01:10:22to score the knockout.

01:10:23Pretty impressive stuff.

01:10:24I'm awful impressed.

01:10:25I never thought he would

01:10:26have that kind of energy

01:10:27being leaned on

01:10:28for so many rounds.

01:10:29He came out,

01:10:30not only he was able

01:10:31to set it up

01:10:31by making a guy

01:10:32follow him,

01:10:32but I never thought

01:10:33he'd have that kind of power

01:10:34in the last round.

01:10:35No way.

01:10:36All right, George,

01:10:36you've seen Roy Jones Jr.

01:10:38Great punching power,

01:10:40a lot of athletic talent.

01:10:41James is maybe

01:10:42the more polished boxer.

01:10:43Who's your early favorite

01:10:44for that fight?

01:10:45I don't think

01:10:46there's a boxer active today

01:10:47that is as good

01:10:49as James Toney.

01:10:50He's the best fighter

01:10:51I've seen

01:10:51and I don't say that much.

01:10:52So you just moved him

01:10:53past Pernell Whitaker

01:10:54to number one on the list.

01:10:55Because he has that magic thing

01:10:56called punching power.

01:10:57Yep.

01:10:58And you just got to put that

01:10:59and generally when a guy

01:11:00can punch hard,

01:11:01he doesn't have the ability

01:11:01to box like that.

01:11:03This guy is truly amazing today.

01:11:05I think if anything,

01:11:06his punching power

01:11:07seems to be increasing too.

01:11:08I cannot believe it.

01:11:10Yep.

01:11:10All right.

01:11:10Great job, George.

01:11:11Pernell Whitaker is great now.

01:11:13Yeah, I know.

01:11:13We know.

01:11:13We'll talk to Pernell again.

01:11:15Larry, your final thoughts

01:11:16on a terrific evening.

01:11:18Well, if it's hot outside

01:11:20and it's hot outside,

01:11:21we had some hot action

01:11:23in here tonight as well.

01:11:25First, a word about

01:11:26young Oscar De La Hoya.

01:11:28I think the pendulum

01:11:30quickly swung back tonight

01:11:33to those people

01:11:34who feel that he is

01:11:36a coming star.

01:11:38When I see him in person

01:11:41up this close,

01:11:42I get the feeling

01:11:43that I'm watching

01:11:44Michelangelo's David

01:11:46stripped down.

01:11:48And although he hasn't

01:11:50beaten any giants yet,

01:11:52he hasn't slain the big guys.

01:11:54He's slow.

01:11:55He slew a very tough

01:11:57little guy tonight.

01:11:59I think that we'll see

01:12:01his career catapult ahead

01:12:03in the next six months

01:12:05to nine months.

01:12:06About James Toney,

01:12:08we've thrown him

01:12:08about every Iconium

01:12:09we could tonight.

01:12:11He has become just

01:12:13a terrific professional fighter

01:12:15who can fight anybody

01:12:17with any style,

01:12:18stay in there,

01:12:20impose his will,

01:12:22his strength,

01:12:23his skill,

01:12:24his great ambition

01:12:26to be a great fighter

01:12:27on any opponent

01:12:29he's in there right now.

01:12:30But I think a good argument

01:12:32can be made

01:12:33that he will be facing

01:12:35his most difficult opposition

01:12:38when he fights Roy Jones,

01:12:39who has amazing skills,

01:12:42amazing reflexes,

01:12:43and power.

01:12:45So, good night,

01:12:46and we're looking ahead

01:12:47to good nights,

01:12:48more of them.

01:12:49November 19,

01:12:50a lot of boxing fans

01:12:51marking that date

01:12:52down tonight

01:12:53as we look ahead

01:12:54to James Toney

01:12:54and Roy Jones.

01:12:55All right,

01:12:56we'll be back

01:12:57in just a moment

01:12:58to wrap up the evening

01:12:59in boxing right now.

01:13:00Let's take a look ahead

01:13:01to a huge entertainment event

01:13:03upcoming on HBO.

01:13:04For those of you

01:13:08who couldn't be there,

01:13:10HBO brings you

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01:13:23August 21st on HBO.

01:13:29You don't need tickets.

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01:13:34So, that will be

01:13:42August 21st.

01:13:42Now, quickly,

01:13:43a look back

01:13:44at what took place

01:13:45at the MGM Grand tonight.

01:13:46Our first visit here,

01:13:48Oscar De La Hoya,

01:13:49fighting what many believed

01:13:50was his toughest opponent yet

01:13:51in Jorge Paez.

01:13:53Knocked out Paez

01:13:5339 seconds of round two.

01:13:55Only the second knockout

01:13:57for Paez

01:13:57in 64 fights.

01:13:59De La Hoya

01:13:59looked sensational.

01:14:02And then,

01:14:03after De La Hoya

01:14:04was able to score

01:14:05that knockout

01:14:06in the second round

01:14:07against Jorge Paez,

01:14:08James Toney

01:14:09struggled through

01:14:10six rounds

01:14:11of grueling physical death

01:14:12from Prince Charles Williams,

01:14:14the former light heavyweight champion

01:14:15who leaned all over him,

01:14:16eventually muscled Williams off,

01:14:18created open space,

01:14:19and with 25 seconds left

01:14:21in the fight,

01:14:21landed that right hand

01:14:22that led to a knockout

01:14:23with 15 seconds to go

01:14:25in the 12th round.

01:14:26Tony keeps his IBF

01:14:28super middleweight championship.

01:14:30Coming up immediately

01:14:31following tonight's coverage

01:14:32of world championship boxing,

01:14:33stay tuned for Russell Simmons,

01:14:35Def Comedy Jam

01:14:36on the East Coast,

01:14:37and Zero Tolerance

01:14:38on the West Coast.

01:14:40Next month,

01:14:40the return of Riddick Bowe,

01:14:42the former champion's

01:14:43first fight

01:14:43since his stunning defeat

01:14:44by Evander Holyfield

01:14:45last November.

01:14:46Don't miss the comeback.

01:14:48Riddick Bowe

01:14:49against Buster Mathis Jr.

01:14:50Saturday, August 13,

01:14:52live on HBO.

01:14:53Now for Larry Mertz,

01:14:55George Foreman,

01:14:56and Harold Letterman,

01:14:57I'm Jim Lafley

01:14:58saying so long

01:14:59from Las Vegas, Nevada.

01:15:02The executive producer

01:15:03of HBO Sports

01:15:05is Ross Greenberg.

01:15:06Tonight's coverage

01:15:07of world championship boxing

01:15:08was produced by Rick Bernstein

01:15:10and directed by Mark Payton.

01:15:12The feature producer

01:15:13was Paul Farnsworth.

01:15:14Associate producers

01:15:15Brian McDonald

01:15:16and Kirby Bradley.

01:15:17Assistance to the producer

01:15:18Adam Berger,

01:15:19Dave Leapson,

01:15:20Artie Curry,

01:15:21and Max Siegel.

01:15:22The production manager

01:15:23was John McCalley

01:15:24and the technical supervisor

01:15:26was Bob Hunter.

01:15:27at Chris do you see and see

01:15:32where we'll be here.

01:15:32We'll be right back

01:15:32next week.

01:15:35See you later.

01:17:06The Network of Champions.

01:17:12They fought the fight in the air.

01:17:15Bo is back.

01:17:17I had one bad day.

01:17:18Bo made me hurt.

01:17:20Now someone's gonna pay.

01:17:21The former heavyweight champion returns with a sentence.

01:17:27Just you wait.

01:17:28Riddick Bowe goes after the undefeated Buster Mathis Jr.

01:17:32Just you wait.

01:17:33Rescheduled for Saturday, August 13th on HBO.

01:17:38HBO.

01:17:39The best fighters in the world fight here.

01:17:41Up against Mildred Taylor to defend his title.

01:17:44Now...

01:17:44The next one.

01:17:45The third one.

01:18:05The third one.

James Toney vs Prince Charles Williams - HBO 7-29-94

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