00:00So that narrative that was created and then built upon and it just mushroomed into what,
00:07basically this is like a Salem witch trial. People have lost their minds for this thing.
00:12I understand that, but the issue is how do you satisfy a mob who can't understand the
00:20lifestyle because it's like P. Diddy in Redux on TV with Clintons and Trump. I mean, it's
00:28bananas. And while some of it.
00:33Good morning. Do you have anything to say today?
00:41In 1990, I had come over to New York to help look at some of that. She was having some
00:48advertising issues with the New York Daily News. And in fact, I met, I may have met Donald
00:55Trump at that time because my father was friendly with him and liked him very much.
01:01And I think it should be said that he also very much likes this notion that he blackmailed
01:07men. We don't really have to go there, that he wasn't a businessman and that everything
01:11he did was a fraud or a funk or whatever. I don't believe that to be true.
01:14Why? Sorry?
01:17So you say you don't believe it to be true, but show me why you think that. I know you've
01:21been talking about it, that he was very conscientious. He was very good at math. He paid a lot of
01:27attention to his clients. But yes, you're right. There's allegations of blackmail or also that
01:32there was some level of fraud involved in what he did. And you don't believe it. Why
01:36do you say that?
01:37Well, let me rephrase that. If there was fraud, I never saw it. What I saw or what I felt
01:44when I, his, I ran that office. I mean, ran. I didn't, I was responsible for the staff.
01:50People worked. There were lawyers. There were accountants. I never heard him. I never,
01:58I never felt anything, I don't know, icky.
02:01What did you observe as far as President Trump and his relationship with you or Mr. Epstein?
02:08Well, I just want to say for my relationship with President Trump, relationship's a big
02:14word, but I just want to say that I met him or I believe I may have because of my father
02:18in the 90s. So my father liked him very much and he really liked his wife as well because
02:26they were both Czechoslovakian. And as far as I'm concerned, President Trump was always
02:32very cordial and very kind to me. And I just want to say that I find, I admire his extraordinary
02:41achievement in becoming the president now. And I like him. And I've always liked him.
02:47So that is the sum and substance of my entire relationship with him.
02:51What about Mr. Epstein's relationship with him?
02:53I don't know how they met and I don't know how they became friends. I certainly saw them
02:57together. And I remember the few times I observed them together that they were friendly. I mean,
03:03was that in social settings or was that in private settings?
03:07I believe I only ever saw them in social settings. I don't recall any private settings.
03:11Did you ever observe President Trump receive a massage?
03:15Never. I don't know Epstein's, if he had, whatever the nature of the president's friendship,
03:22if you will, or however you want to define that with Epstein. I was never witness. I think they
03:27were friendly, like people are in social settings. I don't think they were close friends or I don't
03:32recall ever seeing him in his house, for instance. I actually never saw the president in any type of
03:38massage setting. I never witnessed the president in any inappropriate setting in any way. The president
03:44was never inappropriate with anybody. In the times that I was with him, he was a gentleman in all
03:49respects. And did you ever hear Mr. Epstein or anybody say that President Trump had done
03:56anything inappropriate with masseuses or with anybody in your world? Absolutely never. In any
04:03context. There's been a lot of conversations about whether Mr. Epstein maintained like a list of
04:11people, like a book of famous people that he knew. It's called a black book or a client list or a list
04:19did you know the existence of any such list? There is no list. We'll start with that. The
04:26genesis of that story, I can actually trace for you from its absolute inception, if that is what
04:34you're interested in. First, you know, to be short, there is no list. There's no client list, nothing
04:40like that. No, there's nothing like that. This department is also sending some of the Epstein files
04:47over to the House Oversight Committee today. Are you, are you in support of them releasing all of
04:52them? I'm in support of keeping it open. Innocent people shouldn't be hurt, but I'm in support of
04:56keeping it totally open. I couldn't care less. You got a lot of people that it could be mentioned
05:00in those files that don't deserve to be people because he knew everybody in Palm Beach. I don't
05:05know anything about that, but I have said to Pam and everybody else, give them everything you can give
05:09them because it's a, it's a Democrat hoax. It's just a hoax. The whole Epstein thing is a Democrat
05:14hoax. So we had the greatest six months, seven months in the history of the presidency and the
05:20Democrats don't know what to do. So they keep bringing up that stuff, but it affected them.
05:25The Bill Clinton was on his plane and went to the island supposedly 28 times. I don't want to bring
05:31that up, frankly. You have Larry, whatever his name is, Summers, the head of Harvard, who was Jeffrey
05:38Epstein's best friend. Nobody ever talks about that. I mean, I, but I don't want to hurt Larry Summers,
05:43but he was best friends with Jeffrey Epstein. No, this is a democratic hoax to try and get
05:48the, uh, the significance of what we've done over the past seven months. Nobody's ever seen
05:55anything like it. They say it's number one in history. What we've done, including stopping
06:00seven wars. I mean, just include that.
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