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The Conspiracy Show with Richard Syrett Season 2 Episode 15 The Dangers of EMF
Can radiation from electrical appliances, power lines, microwave ovens, and wireless technology such as cell phones and baby monitors alter our DNA, cause illness and lead to disease? Richard speaks with a leading researcher on the biological effects of Electro-Magnetic Fields, a retired police officer campaigning to have wireless Internet banned from schools and public places, and an electrical sensitive who claims to have had her life ruined by EMF radiation. An associate professor in the field of Environmental and Occupational Health argues that EMF radiation poses no health risk.
Broadcast personality Richard Syrett creates a calm, rational platform on which stars from the worlds of conspiracy thought, the paranormal, alternate health can engage in high quality discourse in these subject arenas.
Director: Jalal Merhi
Writer: Richard Syrett
Stars: Magda Havas, Tony Muc, Lucy Stanford
Can radiation from electrical appliances, power lines, microwave ovens, and wireless technology such as cell phones and baby monitors alter our DNA, cause illness and lead to disease? Richard speaks with a leading researcher on the biological effects of Electro-Magnetic Fields, a retired police officer campaigning to have wireless Internet banned from schools and public places, and an electrical sensitive who claims to have had her life ruined by EMF radiation. An associate professor in the field of Environmental and Occupational Health argues that EMF radiation poses no health risk.
Broadcast personality Richard Syrett creates a calm, rational platform on which stars from the worlds of conspiracy thought, the paranormal, alternate health can engage in high quality discourse in these subject arenas.
Director: Jalal Merhi
Writer: Richard Syrett
Stars: Magda Havas, Tony Muc, Lucy Stanford
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00:00Welcome to The Conspiracy Show.
00:12My name is Richard Serrett.
00:15Are modern electronics like computers, wireless internet, routers, and cell phones causing cancer and other illnesses?
00:22Scientists estimate that our daily exposure to EMF radiation is 100 million times higher than it was in our grandparents' time.
00:33Some researchers and scientists claim that cell phones interfere with pacemakers,
00:39that developing skulls of children are penetrated deeply by the energy emitted from a cell phone,
00:45that the blood-brain barrier, which prevents invasion of the brain from toxins, can be compromised by the cell phone radiation.
00:52And most startling, that radio frequency radiation creates micronuclei in human blood cells,
00:59a type of genetic damage known to be a diagnostic marker for cancer.
01:04The general scientific consensus is that thus far, the evidence available is weak and not sufficient to establish a definitive cause-effect relationship.
01:15So, who do we believe?
01:18Tonight, we'll meet an expert in the biological effects of environmental contaminants.
01:24A former police officer who's campaigning to have wireless internet removed from public spaces, including schools.
01:31A former real estate broker who has been diagnosed with electrical sensitivity and had her entire home gutted to make it EMF-free.
01:41And, of course, we'll hear from a skeptic, an expert in occupational and environmental health,
01:47who says that the people who claim EMF radiation is dangerous are engaging in hyperbolic pseudoscientific nonsense.
01:56Me? I just want the truth. And I'm willing to follow it wherever it may lead.
02:03It is time to redefine reality.
02:06Genetic enigma or a human alien idea?
02:10That's how cynical I am now about the process.
02:13In-stream media, technology, human intelligence.
02:15We're going to ignore this.
02:16We're going to make it.
02:17Has been engineered by the Illuminati.
02:21There's no doubt.
02:22Dr. Magda Havas is a professor of environmental and resource studies at Trent University,
02:27where she teaches and researches the biological effects of environmental contaminants.
02:32Dr. Magda Havas, welcome to The Conspiracy Show.
02:34Thank you, Richard.
02:41What is EMF? What does it stand for?
02:43EMF stands for electromagnetic fields.
02:46And that includes radiation that includes cell phones, cordless phones, wireless routers,
02:53all of the wireless technology we use.
02:55It includes electricity and power lines, the radiation that comes from your computers.
03:00It also includes things like sunlight, ultraviolet radiation, and even ionizing radiation, x-rays, radon, that sort of thing.
03:09So it's ubiquitous. We're literally swimming in EMF.
03:14That's right. We're exposed to both natural sources and man-made sources.
03:18Are the man-made sources dangerous?
03:20Well, that's what a lot of scientists contend, that they are dangerous.
03:24The man-made sources are totally artificial, and they're at frequencies that don't exist normally on the planet.
03:31And we're increasing our exposure by all of the electrical devices that we use in the wireless technology.
03:37And there's a growing number of people who are becoming quite ill.
03:41I'm a retired police officer, and I've become quite knowledgeable about electromagnetic radiation and the health effects it has on people.
03:52I've been diagnosed with environmental sensitivities.
04:02The medical community has a great difficulty understanding this problem, and they don't want to say for sure that it's electrical.
04:11It's a radio frequency meter, and normally, that's you.
04:21That's me.
04:22That's you with your microwave radiation from your...
04:25But what is it measuring? Megahertz, or...?
04:28It's measuring microwatts per square meter of microwave radiation.
04:32And that's the type of device that a lot of people have in their homes.
04:43It's radiating 24 hours a day.
04:46So, Martin, tell me about this scope meter. What is this actually doing?
04:50It's reading all this high-frequency pollution that's actually riding on that wire.
04:55This is considered non-ionizing radiation, though, is it not?
04:58That's correct.
04:59So, I've always been led to believe that non-ionizing radiation is not harmful.
05:04Well, you just have to look at the scientific research, and you'll find that there's so many biological effects from it that it is very harmful.
05:14Industry that's making a lot of money on this, we're talking about billions if not trillions of dollars globally,
05:20they obviously don't want anyone to believe that this is harmful because there are going to be lawsuits.
05:25Where are the government officials that are supposed to be protecting us, that are supposed to be setting the standards?
05:37What happened?
05:38Well, standards are set by an international organization called ICNER.
05:43This particular group of scientists has a lot of industry and military scientists on board, so they're the ones giving the advice as to what those guidelines should be.
05:54The Interphone study reported that there's an 80% increase in brain tumors after 1,640 hours of use, and that's very low use in today's society.
06:03So, what this means is if we continue to use cell phones the way that we're using them, which is basically holding them up to the head,
06:10we are going to have an epidemic of brain tumors among younger and younger people.
06:15So, this is a very disturbing trend.
06:17I don't have any particular self-interest or special interest or vested interest in opposing those points of view,
06:24other than that to me they're illogical, they're unscientific, they're somewhat deceptive.
06:35What is EMF?
06:37That's an interesting question. It's actually one of the most fundamental things that people experience and encounter.
06:44Ionizing radiation is radiation that has sufficient energy, inherently, in each photon to create ions in the materials that it passes through.
06:57In the case of non-ionizing radiation, there are many actual effects, but none of them are detrimental in the way that ions are
07:06in the context of biological systems and biological materials.
07:11There's so many conflicting reports out there. Help me make sense of this.
07:15On the one hand, we had a couple of years ago a couple of Danish studies that said there is no link between cell phone use and incidence of brain tumors.
07:25And then we had this report from the World Health Organization recently that says there is a link.
07:30And then the European Parliament suggesting in their report that they ban Wi-Fi, wireless internet, in schools. What's going on?
07:42The problem is that if scientists come out and say that this is harmful, the government has to figure out how to deal with it because it's absolutely everywhere.
07:50The doctors have great difficulty believing this. My first doctor, I took quite a lot of scientific information with me and I said this is what's happening to me and can you help me?
08:03And I don't think the doctor even looked at the information. She didn't want to get involved.
08:11Industry that's making a lot of money on this, we're talking about billions if not trillions of dollars globally, they obviously don't want anyone to believe that this is harmful because there are going to be lawsuits.
08:23I think the industry representatives or the industry funded studies are done with the best of intentions.
08:31There is a lot of scientific evidence that relates high frequency pollution, radio frequencies, electromagnetic fields with various different types of cancer.
08:40If it was just based on pure science, I think everything would be much clearer. But there's a lot of politics involved and there's a lot of economics involved as well, trying to show that this radiation isn't harmful.
08:50And indeed, many of the studies that are showing no harmful effect are funded by industry. So there's already a preconceived bias to show that the technology is safe.
09:02Dr. Havas, what would you say to the other doctors or researchers out there, scientists, who don't agree with you, who might suggest to you you're being alarmist or paranoid?
09:12Well, you know, the same thing was said about Rachel Carson when she mentioned that DDT was killing wildlife.
09:17The same thing was mentioned about Sulikoff when he talked about asbestos and how deadly it was.
09:21I mean, we have had these toxins over and over again from cigarettes to lead to, you know, a lot of them.
09:27And the people who say, excuse me, there's something wrong with this, we need to change, are often classified as fear mongers.
09:34I would say she is looking at the same information that every scientist or every person who chooses to look sees.
09:41And all I can say is that I disagree with the conclusions that she comes to.
09:48You know, that states it fairly and bluntly.
09:52I think they just don't want to change for whatever reason, whether they want to continue using the technology or because they're making money off of the technology
10:00or because their research would contradict the research that they're doing and they have their egos at stake involved in this.
10:07There's all sorts of reasons why they might not agree with me.
10:10But if they read the science, it's so obvious that this radiation is harmful.
10:14It comes from animal studies, it comes from human studies, that if we simply ignore this, it will be at our peril.
10:23I remember one night, up in bed, I was having like these seizures in my head, like this electric type current as if I was getting zapped by lightning or something.
10:33It was always in the same place in the occipital area, and so I couldn't sleep.
10:37Like this.
10:43Lucy Sanford considers herself to be a victim of EMF.
10:47She says she was forced to quit her job and move after a diagnosis confirmed she was essentially allergic to electromagnetic fields.
10:57I was a real estate agent for 24 years in Toronto.
11:01Lots of cell phone use.
11:03I became electrically hypersensitive.
11:07It took me a long time to know what was wrong with me.
11:13I kept going to doctors with different complaints and they kept saying, well we can't find anything, you know, here's some, take some antidepressants.
11:23This radiation seems to affect our ability to think.
11:26A lot of them have headaches, some of them have migraine headaches, which just debilitates them completely.
11:31Headaches, when it would be like I was in a sauna, I'd be sweating so badly, and it was all from the effects of this radiation that was coming into the house.
11:43I think when it started for me, if I really try and think back to what it was, I was just always really exhausted.
11:51Like I couldn't, hard to get out of bed, and an overwhelming sensation of anxiety.
12:00Very often they have difficulty sleeping, that's one of the early symptoms, so they have a very restless night.
12:05I remember one night, up in bed, I was having like these seizures in my head, like this electric type current, as if I was getting zapped by lightning or something.
12:15It was always in the same place, in the occipital area, and so I couldn't sleep, I could have been like this.
12:21My body would feel as if it was vibrating, mostly when I was in bed sleeping.
12:27Some experience incredible levels of anxiety, to the point where they have heart palpitations.
12:33There were heart palpitations.
12:36I had extreme pressure and pain in my chest.
12:39And we can initiate an irregular heartbeat, or a very rapid heartbeat, simply by exposing them to the radiation from a cordless phone.
12:48I've taken part in scientific studies conducted by Dr. Magda Havis from Trent University,
12:56and what her measurement showed was that when I was exposed to microwave radiation, my heart rate changed dramatically.
13:05As soon as the signal was turned on, and without me knowing about this, my heart would double immediately.
13:12And when she turned the meter off, it went back to normal.
13:15A number of them become depressed, whether the depression is directly related to the exposure,
13:20simply related to their ill health by this time.
13:24It finally got so bad, I had to leave.
13:27It was just at a point of, I didn't know what to do, so I left my life and came out to Crystal Beach.
13:34And over time, if they continue to be exposed, those symptoms get worse and worse and worse,
13:39to the point where they can no longer function in society.
13:42Do you think electrical sensitivity is an actual disorder?
13:46From the reports I've seen, my opinion is that it's not.
13:54Again, the Tony Mutz's of the world would say it's non-ionizing, therefore it's not dangerous.
13:59Is that pretty much their argument?
14:01Well, you asked Tony Mutz to put microwave devices around his home at a half of what the government says is safe,
14:14and let's see if he's alive in another two years' time.
14:17I have no problems with my grandchildren using the microwave oven, or my wife, my own kids, etc.
14:23I would say to Tony Mutz, show us one good scientific study,
14:29which shows that microwave radiation is safe and does not cause any biological effects.
14:36And I don't believe there's one study of that type which is relevant and which is a solid study,
14:42yet there are thousands of studies which show that there are significant biological effects.
14:49It's a ludicrous idea to put Wi-Fi in schools.
14:54You're basically putting wireless transmitters, converting the classroom into a microwave oven at very low power.
15:01That's what we're doing.
15:02And children are very, very sensitive to this radiation.
15:05I'm very concerned about the rate of cancers that are going to develop in the future for these children.
15:14Even if I don't use a cell phone, I'm surrounded.
15:17I'm probably at any one time, no further than several hundred meters from a cell phone tower.
15:24If I don't use a cell phone, am I still at risk?
15:28We are inundated with this radiation, so it makes little difference whether you use a cell phone or not.
15:33What that means is that if you're living in a high-rise apartment building,
15:37if you're living in the middle of a city like Toronto, you are just bombarded with this radiation.
15:42People who have developed a sensitivity cannot go into these communities anymore.
15:47They can't live in high-rise apartment buildings.
15:50They can't go to hotels and stay on the top floor because there's simply too much radiation there for them.
15:56We did some things to make it safe.
15:58We put stets or filters in which reduced the dirty electricity and stuff.
16:01I had to bury the cable overhead and build a trench.
16:05That was about $6,000, and that would include moving the smart meter to the edge of the property.
16:10The electrical, I use BX cable wiring, so it's shielded in the thing so it doesn't come out of the walls.
16:16Industrial wiring is much more expensive to three times the cost of regular wiring.
16:22I have on-demand switches, so what this means is when I turn on this light, for example,
16:28when I turn it off, it doesn't turn it off here, it turns it off at the panel in the basement.
16:33So when I go to bed at night, there's no electricity on around me.
16:37Instead of holding the cell phone to your head, one of the things you can do is buy one of these gizmos
16:42where you plug this into your cell phone and you talk on it just like you would a regular phone.
16:47So the cell phone is down on the table and you just have a private conversation.
16:53And this protects you against the radiation from that phone.
16:56So if you're in a multi-unit building, if your neighbours have these technologies, you're going to be exposed.
17:02If you're living near a cell tower or broadcast antenna, you're going to be exposed.
17:06So you can put curtains on your windows, you can put film on your windows that will actually reflect the radiation.
17:12There is clothing people have that they can wear to protect their bodies.
17:16So if you absolutely have to keep your cell phone in your hip pocket, you can have underwear that reflects this radiation.
17:23It's lined with silver and it simply repels the radiation so your body isn't absorbing it.
17:28I found that the only thing I can really do to protect myself is to avoid the radiation and keep away from it as much as I can,
17:36which is very difficult to do these days because it's been installed in so many different places.
17:42Wi-Fi in the schools, I'm guessing, horrible idea.
17:46Oh, it's a ludicrous idea to put Wi-Fi in schools.
17:49You're basically putting wireless transmitters, converting the classroom into a microwave oven at very low power.
17:56That's what we're doing. And children are very, very sensitive to this radiation.
18:01I'm very concerned about the rate of cancers that are going to develop in the future for these children.
18:06But I'm even more concerned about how it's going to affect their ability to reproduce.
18:10Because we're not talking about just this generation, we're talking about generation after generation after generation.
18:15I think it's criminal that schools are allowing this technology to be put in the schools.
18:22I think it's totally wrong. There are studies which indicate that when children start to, or young people start to use cell phones at an early age,
18:35their rates of brain cancer are increased by at least four times.
18:40People have suggested time and again, and there are indications from time to time that there may be something there.
18:46But it hasn't been established scientifically to the point where it's considered to be a reliable conclusion.
18:54EMF. Electromagnetic fields. They're everywhere. They're silent. But are they deadly?
19:01Are ubiquitous cell phone towers, wireless internet routers, microwave ovens, even baby monitors putting us and our children at risk?
19:11Quite frankly, there is so much seemingly contradictory information out there, it's easy to feel like you're lost in the electronic smog.
19:19On the one hand, the World Health Organization recently reclassified radio frequency radiation from wireless devices as possibly causing cancer.
19:29On the other hand, we have a couple of Danish studies that found no link between cell phone use and the incidence of brain tumors.
19:38Having reviewed the literature, it is concluded, and it's an obvious fact if you review the literature,
19:45that there are some indications with some studies that there may be a risk of carcinogenesis with electromagnetic fields in general, let's say.
19:59But, I would say, rather than leap to the conclusion that now we need to ban cell phones, we should look at the list of possible carcinogens that IARC has.
20:11And if you look at the list of possible carcinogens, coffee is one of them, for example.
20:16You need to get busy and start doing the research so that you can make an informed decision about whether electromagnetic fields pose a serious health risk,
20:24whether Wi-Fi belongs in your child's school, or whether you should continue using your microwave oven.
20:30I can only tell you what I'm doing.
20:32I've decided to err on the side of caution.
20:35The cordless phone in our home is gone.
20:38I shut off my wireless internet once I'm off to bed, and I'm seriously considering getting rid of our wireless router altogether.
20:46My wife and I are considering getting rid of the microwave, and we're looking at getting an earbud and mic for all our cell phones, which we use sparingly.
20:55And now, I'd like to know what you think.
20:58You can contact me through the website www.theconspiracyshow.com
21:04In the meantime, don't be afraid.
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