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The Conspiracy Show with Richard Syrett Season 1 Episode 3 Past Life Regression

Richard investigates the practice of past-life regression therapy, a technique where subjects are placed under hypnosis in order to recover what practitioners believe are memories of past lives. A young woman relives a previous life in the American South during the 19th Century. There she experiences a profound loss which helps explain a current life problem; a fear of having children.

Broadcast personality Richard Syrett creates a calm, rational platform on which stars from the worlds of conspiracy thought, the paranormal, alternate health can engage in high quality discourse in these subject arenas.

Directors: Jalal Merhi, Chris Power
Writer: Richard Syrett, Ron Craig
Starring: Richard Syrett, Richard Crouse, Nelson

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00:00Back to the phones we go.
00:12Hello, John. Welcome to The Conspiracy Show.
00:14I had an incident where I realized that this had been done to me before.
00:19All right. And so you suspect that you may have had, in fact, a past life experience.
00:23Yes, that did cross my mind.
00:25Welcome to The Conspiracy Show, Carrie. You're on the line with Paul Von Wart.
00:28We do reincarnate. Whatever you know that is true, is true.
00:33Welcome aboard, Doug.
00:34I think a lot of it probably has to do with the subconscious mind, and the subconscious lets us out.
00:40They may think that, hey, I was here at one time. I've had a past life.
00:45All right. Thanks for the call.
00:48Welcome to The Conspiracy Show. My name is Richard Serrett.
00:52Roughly one quarter of the world's population believes in reincarnation.
00:56Believing we've lived previous lives is one thing.
01:00But actually believing that we can remember or experience those previous incarnations is quite another.
01:07So is it possible to remember previous lives?
01:11According to practitioners of past life regression therapy,
01:15an increasingly popular technique that uses hypnosis,
01:19the answer is a resounding yes.
01:21But how exactly does past life regression therapy work?
01:26Is the subject under hypnosis actually remembering and experiencing a past life?
01:31And are these memories of past lives actual people?
01:35Can they be substantiated with documented proof like birth and marriage certificates or a grave marker?
01:42Comedian Woody Allen once said he was troubled by the prospect of reincarnation
01:46because it meant he'd have to sit through the ice capades again.
01:49Me? I'm not troubled by reincarnation.
01:52I want to know more.
01:53I want to know the truth.
01:55Friends, it is time to rudely engage reality.
01:58Past life regression therapy works this way.
02:17A subject is placed under hypnosis.
02:20While under hypnosis is allegedly able to recover memories of past lives.
02:25It's very controversial.
02:26Dr. Brian Weiss, a mainstream psychoanalyst,
02:30first made this therapy popular,
02:32and now it has thousands of practitioners around the world.
02:35Does it work?
02:36Well, that's up for dispute.
02:39We're going to actually witness past life regression therapy
02:41with a young woman named Candice
02:43and her past life regression therapist, Deborah Skye.
02:47Of course, we'll also speak to a skeptic
02:50who's not convinced past life regression therapy actually works.
02:53The rest, well, that'll be up for you to decide.
02:56Gordon Finn is the No BS Guru.
03:03Welcome to The Conspiracy Show, Gordon.
03:06Thanks, Richard.
03:07Glad to be here.
03:08What exactly is past life regression therapy?
03:11That is where someone will come to me with a perceived problem,
03:17a perceived issue, a recurring dream that troubles them.
03:23And we will use various techniques,
03:26including relaxation and visualization exercises,
03:29to go backwards in time and space
03:32and access the previous life or previous lives
03:36in which that problem originally occurred.
03:40Give me an example of the most exceptional case
03:45that you've been involved with during a past life regression.
03:51One that comes to mind right now
03:53is a woman who came to see me
03:56at the difficult end of a long marriage
04:00wanting to try and discover some of the sources
04:04of the troubles between her and her husband.
04:07And when I regressed her,
04:09she found herself at the American Civil War
04:13and in a battle,
04:15and the soldiers moved toward each other.
04:17She wound up in hand-to-hand combat
04:19with a Confederate soldier.
04:20I said,
04:22Do you recognize this soldier?
04:23And she said,
04:25Yes, it's my husband.
04:28A death occurred,
04:29and she was the victor in that particular fight.
04:33But when I asked her later,
04:35you know,
04:35that's pretty dramatic,
04:37but does that help you understand
04:38some of the difficulties,
04:40quote-unquote difficulties,
04:41you're having with your husband?
04:43And she said,
04:44Oh, yes, very definitely.
04:46I'm anxious to learn more
04:47about remembering and experiencing a past life
04:50and to find out whether a past life regression
04:52can actually help someone
04:54deal with their present-day psychological,
04:56emotional, or physiological problems.
04:58So we're in Toronto
05:00to meet another noted regression therapist.
05:06Can you explain how a past life regression
05:09can help someone deal with a psychological problem?
05:12Hmm.
05:14Okay, I'm going to give an example
05:15of a young man who is 36 in his lifetime.
05:19And he went back to a German, a Nazi,
05:23and he was one of the gentlemen
05:26who actually chauffeured people
05:29into the gas chambers,
05:33experiencing a lot of emotional dysfunction today.
05:37But that was what he was doing,
05:39and it was what he did.
05:40But even though the emotional guilt
05:43and everything else that came along with it
05:45impacted him so strongly
05:47that today, that guilt still laid deep within,
05:53and in this regression,
05:54we were able to pinpoint where it came from,
05:58why, and that sadness didn't return.
06:01It's your daughter.
06:05She's screaming.
06:06What's happening to her?
06:07I don't know.
06:09She's not moving.
06:19She's hurt.
06:20And what happened to her?
06:21Where is she hurt?
06:22She's not moving.
06:25Okay.
06:25Now what do you do?
06:27You can just observe it
06:28and just watch what you're doing
06:30and just take a deep breath.
06:31Let's talk about Candice's past life regression.
06:35Explain what she was experiencing
06:37during her regression.
06:38What happened is she was in her early 20s,
06:42late teens, probably 1920,
06:44and she was living in the deep south,
06:48early 1900s,
06:50and it was very impactful.
06:52She was doing laundry outside,
06:54hanging out laundry,
06:56and her young child was out in the fields,
06:59and she hadn't come in,
07:01and she went out to find her
07:03and found her lying down on the ground,
07:07not breathing.
07:08So what happens is that somebody
07:10is experiencing something
07:12that is happening today.
07:14That's why it's recurring.
07:15So the regression in past life
07:17is repeating itself.
07:20What do you do with Essie?
07:22I carry her.
07:23Okay, good.
07:24You carry her.
07:25She's not breathing.
07:30She's gone.
07:31Okay.
07:33So Essie passed on.
07:40I don't want to be here anymore.
07:42Okay.
07:42Now I want you to move out of that body
07:44and be in spirit,
07:46and as you do,
07:47I want you to look at that lifetime
07:49and see if there's anything
07:49you need to forgive in that lifetime.
07:52The purpose of past life regression therapy
07:55is to release
07:56whatever trauma, experience,
07:59block that is present
08:01to free the individual today
08:03so they can get on with
08:04what they're doing here.
08:07Okay.
08:08Now are you ready?
08:08Are you willing to forgive yourself
08:10in that lifetime?
08:19Yes.
08:19Okay, good.
08:21Now a full healing is taking place, okay?
08:23Because that was so strong in her body,
08:26in her memory,
08:27that why would she want to have a child
08:29when she knows that the child's going to die
08:31at a young age?
08:32Because that's still real to her, right?
08:35That's still present to her memory.
08:36So 50 minutes afterwards,
08:39after the regression was done,
08:41we were speaking,
08:42and she said,
08:43now I understand.
08:44Now I don't have that fear anymore.
08:47So the therapy
08:48and the therapeutic approach
08:49to the regression work
08:50is that you release
08:52the identity that you have
08:54with that lifetime
08:55and recognize
08:56that that was an emotional context
09:00that's in you,
09:01but it's not now.
09:04So the therapeutic approach
09:05is you release it.
09:06It's now gone,
09:07so now Candice is able
09:08to have a child without fear.
09:12I don't know how you felt
09:13about what you just witnessed,
09:14but I'm convinced
09:16Candice wasn't faking it.
09:18That was a genuine experience.
09:20The question is,
09:21was she recovering
09:22a memory of the past,
09:23or is there some other
09:24scientific explanation?
09:27People are not good
09:28at that situation.
09:29They tend to incorporate
09:30what they believe
09:31they should remember
09:32into their own memories,
09:34and they will defend
09:34those memories.
09:35It's a dangerous thing.
09:37This is the University
09:38of Waterloo's
09:39School of Computer Science.
09:40I'm here to speak
09:41with Associate Professor
09:42Jeff Orchard.
09:43Jeff knows a lot
09:44about the human brain.
09:49If patients feel
09:51that it is of some benefit
09:53and they are able
09:53to resolve certain issues,
09:56doesn't that then
09:56at least speak to
09:58the fact that
09:58it has some value?
10:00So if people benefit,
10:02that's great.
10:02The question is,
10:03will most people benefit?
10:06Or is it possible
10:07for it to do harm?
10:08And I think the answer
10:09is a clear yes.
10:10In fact, in Israel,
10:11the Ministry of Health
10:12has banned its
10:14hypnotherapists
10:14from doing past life
10:15regression therapy
10:16because there have been
10:16a number of instances
10:18where there were
10:19negative outcomes.
10:20Now you will find
10:21other regressionists
10:22will tell you,
10:23particularly people
10:24that are trained hypnotists,
10:25they can take people
10:26to a much deeper level
10:28where if they're
10:29in ancient Greece,
10:29they will sometimes
10:30speak in that language.
10:33But when you take them
10:34to that deep level,
10:35there is a certain amount
10:37of risk that if there's
10:38a trauma,
10:39they will experience
10:40the trauma on a deep level.
10:42When you're experiencing
10:43something,
10:43if you have a shoulder pain
10:45and you realize
10:46in a lifetime
10:46that you've been stabbed
10:48and then afterwards
10:49the pain is eliminated,
10:53it's an emotional,
10:54physical experience.
10:57For example,
10:58Jenny Cockle's case.
11:00As Jenny Cockle
11:01in this life
11:02in the 1970s, 80s
11:04had recurring dreams
11:05of eight children
11:06and she tracked down
11:08maybe, I believe,
11:09six of her eight children.
11:14Believers in past lives
11:16point to two
11:18fairly high-profile cases.
11:20Talk to me about
11:20the James Leininger case.
11:22So at first,
11:23when I first saw this,
11:24I was thinking,
11:26wow, how am I going
11:26to pull this apart?
11:28It just seemed
11:29so compelling.
11:31Ah, right.
11:32The young boy
11:32in the States
11:33remembered being
11:34the fighter pilot
11:34in World War II.
11:36Yes, that's a very
11:37strongly evidential one.
11:38He seems to remember
11:39the names of his colleagues
11:42in the squadron
11:43that he was in.
11:45He starts having
11:46these nightmares
11:46about being in a plane
11:48crash and going down.
11:49He knows some facts
11:50that his parents
11:50can't explain.
11:51He knows about a plane
11:52called a Corsair.
11:53And a tremendous amount
11:55of detail about
11:56the cockpits
11:57and the controls
11:58of the planes
12:00that he was flying
12:01in 1942.
12:02And he started
12:03remembering this
12:04when he was,
12:04I believe,
12:05three or four.
12:06And he knows
12:07about the little tank
12:08on the bottom
12:08called the drop tank.
12:10And his parents
12:11couldn't explain
12:11how he would know this,
12:12or at least his mom
12:13couldn't.
12:13and had no,
12:15obviously,
12:16no intellectual knowledge
12:17of these planes
12:17at that time
12:18and surprised his parents.
12:20And then...
12:20One of his family members,
12:21I believe his grandmother,
12:22suggested maybe he's
12:23remembering memories
12:25from a past life.
12:26So he started into
12:28past life regression therapy.
12:29You know,
12:30from that point,
12:30things really start picking up.
12:32He starts remembering
12:33the names.
12:34He's looking in a book
12:35on World War II
12:35with his dad.
12:36He says,
12:36that's the aircraft carrier
12:38that I flew off of
12:39called the Natoma.
12:40And I crashed here.
12:42It was Iwo Jima.
12:43And he names Jack Larson,
12:45who was apparently
12:46a friend of his
12:47in the previous life.
12:48And so all these things
12:49check out.
12:50And it is strongly evidential
12:53as a case I've seen.
12:55But apparently,
12:57something that you don't see
12:59when you first read the story
13:00is that a few months
13:01before he started having
13:02the airplane crash nightmares,
13:04his family took him
13:05to a World War II museum.
13:07And there was a Corsair
13:08on display there.
13:09And there were
13:10drop tanks there.
13:11So all these things
13:12he could have picked up there.
13:14I expect he did.
13:15Who can trust anything
13:16about memories
13:17or what he knows,
13:18what he doesn't know?
13:19It's very difficult
13:20in that sort of scenario
13:22to separate fact from fiction.
13:28Talk to me about
13:28the Jenny Cockle case.
13:30This is one of the
13:31big headline cases
13:32for reincarnation
13:34and past life memories.
13:36She believes that
13:36she was reincarnated
13:37and she lived originally
13:39as Mary in Ireland.
13:41And as Jenny Cockle
13:43in this life
13:43in the 1970s, 80s
13:46had recurring dreams
13:47of this small cottage
13:48in Ireland.
13:49Eight children,
13:50not very wealthy,
13:52was advised by the doctor,
13:53do not have another child,
13:55did have another child
13:57and died in childbirth.
13:59Jenny Cockle
14:00went to a hypnotherapist,
14:02I believe,
14:02past life regression therapy
14:03and started sketching out maps
14:06of the town
14:07that she lived in
14:07and she went on this search.
14:10What town was it?
14:11She wanted to find out more.
14:12And then,
14:13I believe she lived in England,
14:15northern England at the time.
14:16She felt it was somewhere
14:18southwest of Dublin
14:19and she did find it.
14:21Through contacting other people,
14:22she found a town
14:24that roughly matched
14:25and they found a woman
14:26named Mary Sutton,
14:27I believe was her name.
14:29And she tracked down
14:30maybe, I believe,
14:31six of her eight children
14:33who were then men
14:34in their 70s and 80s
14:36and felt very strongly
14:37that this was
14:38her children growing up.
14:41And so for her,
14:42this was proof
14:43that she was reincarnated
14:44and the problem
14:46with this kind of thing
14:47is that it's called
14:49confirmation bias.
14:50She looks for evidence
14:51and forgets anything
14:52that doesn't support
14:53her belief.
14:54Science doesn't work this way.
14:55We don't just select
14:56the facts we want
14:57and present those.
14:59Imagine if a drug company
15:00collected all the people
15:01that showed positive results
15:03and presented those
15:04to the public
15:04and said,
15:05see, our product works.
15:06That would be severely criticized
15:08in the scientific arena.
15:10Convince me
15:14that consciousness
15:16survives physical death.
15:19Okay, well this is a good one.
15:21Without your spirit
15:22you are nothing.
15:24You can't live without spirit.
15:27You're just,
15:28you're flesh,
15:28you're an organic matter.
15:32So, you are a spirit
15:35and you are existing
15:37with pure consciousness already.
15:40It's just that
15:41your singular mind
15:42and ego
15:43experiences
15:44this one-dimensional framework.
15:46What do you think
15:47happens at the moment
15:48of physical death?
15:49What happens
15:50to consciousness
15:50and the soul?
15:52Well, there's two paths
15:53we can go here
15:54and in the case
15:55of a sudden death
15:57the consciousness
15:58is shot out of the body
15:59instantaneously
16:01and usually to
16:03another point in the room.
16:05So basically
16:06you've got a dead person here
16:07and a ghost over here
16:09and a ghost
16:09does not understand
16:10what has happened
16:11at all
16:12because they have died instantly
16:14and they still feel
16:15very much alive.
16:17The idea that
16:18energy can be neither created
16:19nor destroyed
16:20consciousness then
16:22might be able
16:22to survive physical death.
16:25What are your thoughts
16:25on that?
16:26Energy is something
16:27that you can measure
16:27and so energy flows
16:28through us in that sense.
16:30So to call consciousness
16:32energy
16:32and apply conservation
16:33of energy to it
16:35I don't think
16:36consciousness
16:37and energy
16:38are linked
16:38in any way
16:40deeper than that.
16:42Are you able
16:43to verify
16:44that past life
16:46proof that that person
16:47actually existed?
16:48The data that we have found
16:49has been exceptional.
16:52Exceptional.
16:58Reincarnation
16:58the idea that we live
17:00then die
17:01then live again.
17:03This old tractor
17:04looks like a John Deere
17:05something like
17:05my great grandfather
17:07sold 80 or 90 years ago.
17:09Is it possible
17:10that the gentleman farmer
17:12that rode this tractor
17:13and then died
17:14is alive again
17:15living somewhere
17:17under a new identity?
17:19Are you able
17:20to verify
17:21that past life
17:22through research
17:24finding proof
17:26that that person
17:26actually existed?
17:28Yes.
17:28We can.
17:30We have.
17:32We have done that.
17:34I particularly
17:34don't go into
17:35the research
17:36because I'm already
17:37engaged with what I'm doing.
17:40That doing the research
17:41would probably
17:41be a long process
17:44of me going in
17:45and I don't find it
17:46important particularly
17:46myself because
17:47there's nothing for me
17:48to believe.
17:49I already know
17:49what's going on.
17:51For people who do
17:52want to know that out
17:53they will ask
17:55for dates
17:56they will ask
17:57for locations
17:58and because of
18:00today's technology
18:01we're able to
18:02just Google anything.
18:03Do you think
18:04that past life
18:04regression therapists
18:05are frauds?
18:06Fraud suggests
18:07like a purposeful deceit.
18:10I would expect
18:11that a lot of them
18:11also believe
18:13that it's true.
18:15Okay.
18:15Cards on the table.
18:17When it comes
18:17to past lives
18:18let's just say
18:19I'm firmly entrenched
18:21in the skeptics camp.
18:22I believe
18:24that you live once
18:25and if you do it right
18:26that's more than enough.
18:28Then I witnessed
18:29the past life
18:30regression
18:31of young Candice.
18:32Her emotions
18:33and her pain
18:34seemed all too real.
18:36She's gone.
18:38Okay.
18:42So as you passed on?
18:44The information
18:48from Candice's
18:49past life regression
18:50is sometimes vague.
18:52It's like searching
18:53for the proverbial needle
18:55in the haystack.
18:56It's a difficult thing
18:57to monitor
18:58how when you're
18:59suggesting memories
19:00to someone
19:01and asking them
19:03to recall memories
19:04that might be
19:05quite vague
19:07in the first place.
19:09People are not good
19:11at that situation.
19:12They tend to incorporate
19:13what they believe
19:14they should remember
19:15into their own memories
19:16and they will defend
19:17those memories.
19:19So past life regression
19:19therapy is a
19:20it's a dangerous thing.
19:24Still,
19:25the James Leininger case
19:26remains compelling
19:27and there are dozens
19:28and dozens
19:29of equally compelling
19:30case studies
19:31where people,
19:32especially young children,
19:33have remarkably
19:34accurate details
19:36of past lives.
19:37Well, most simply
19:39we reincarnate
19:40if and when
19:41we are ready
19:42to reincarnate.
19:43The average time
19:45out of the physical plane
19:46before you come back
19:47is 70 years.
19:48You will reincarnate
19:50in a general wave
19:51with those
19:52that you knew
19:5270 to 100 years before.
19:55And while I'm not convinced
19:57that one can dismiss
19:59the past life phenomenon
20:00as a false memory,
20:02the therapist's
20:03power of suggestion,
20:05or a trick of the mind,
20:06I'm not quite ready
20:08to pull up stakes
20:09and move into
20:10the firm believer's camp
20:12either.
20:12I am willing to
20:13consider more evidence
20:15and follow the truth
20:16wherever it may lead.
20:20And now,
20:21I'd like to know
20:21what you have to say.
20:23You can get a hold of us
20:24here at The Conspiracy Show
20:25through the website
20:26www.theconspiracyshow.com
20:30In the meantime,
20:31don't be afraid.
20:33There's nothing concealed
20:34that won't be revealed
20:35and nothing hidden
20:36that won't be made known.
20:38What you hear in the dark,
20:40speak in the light.
20:41And what I say in a whisper,
20:44proclaim from the housetops.
20:46Move over, Aphrodite.
20:48I'm coming home.
20:49I'm coming home.
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