00:01Okay, the trade deadline came and went, and it went, and it was extremely lackluster for
00:10your Cleveland Browns.
00:11What does that mean?
00:11But the bigger story of the morning, Jeff, I guess it's true.
00:19Deshaun Watson is the starter on Sunday.
00:23Yes, let's create more drama.
00:27Yes.
00:28Come on.
00:30We knew this on Monday.
00:31You're surprised?
00:35Everybody's reporting that now, and the Browns put it out.
00:38So I guess that gets to the question, and we got a great show for you, Todd Monkens' press
00:42conference, Deshaun Watson's press conference, Chris Rose a little bit later in the show,
00:45but let me get to this point.
00:48Like, why wouldn't Todd Monkens just say on Monday, okay, Deshaun's our starter?
00:52I have two thoughts on that.
00:54You give me yours.
00:55I think there's only one explanation for that.
00:58Hello, Andy.
00:59It's good to have you back.
00:59Oh, it's good to be back.
01:00Thank you, guys.
01:01Thank you, guys.
01:01The only explanation I can think of there is that they just didn't want to say something
01:08just in case something happened before the trade deadline involving a Browns quarterback.
01:15That's the only one that makes sense to me, and so Todd didn't want to say anything.
01:20He could have said something regardless, and then all of a sudden, yeah, but then today,
01:26well, we got an offer we couldn't refuse.
01:28But the only one that I can actually buy as to why he didn't say anything is that maybe
01:35they thought that they might get a trade offer for somebody.
01:42So I agree with you for the most part that the reason you wouldn't say on Monday, and
01:46I said this on Monday, I think we both talked about this on Monday, we're like, you know
01:50what?
01:51If they're thinking about trading a quarterback, it doesn't make any sense to get out there
01:54and see who the starter's going to be on Sunday.
01:56Would have made no sense at all.
02:00They could have done it and then got away with it by just saying, hey, we got a phone call
02:04and it's just something we thought would help our team.
02:06Yeah.
02:07They could have done that.
02:08And nobody would have blinked.
02:10But somebody would have called you know what on it because for that to happen, the conversation
02:14would have had to have happened before the announcement.
02:18I don't know.
02:19Trade deadline last hour, pick up the phone.
02:21Hey, we need a quarterback.
02:22How much?
02:23Do you really think it's that easy?
02:26Sometimes it is.
02:28I don't know.
02:28You hear those stories all the time.
02:29Yeah, but if you're trading for a quarterback, I think there's some, I mean, there's a little
02:33bit of due diligence going into that.
02:34I would think, but you never know.
02:35If you're, I mean.
02:36There's a deadline for a reason.
02:38Yeah, I guess so.
02:39But the only other thing I could think of would be chain of command and to make sure that
02:45the right people know the right information at the right time, i.e. Shadour, i.e. Deshaun,
02:53i.e.
02:53What did Shadour need to know?
02:55I mean, maybe Todd wanted to sit down with Shadour and say, hey, listen, but you know, we
03:00like the way you play, especially in the second half.
03:02We like the way you played in the second half.
03:05And, you know, it's sometimes it's a hard decision.
03:07It's the same hard decision we had to make when we broke camp, but we're going to go
03:11back to Deshaun next week.
03:12Okay.
03:13You want him to hear before anyone else is here, don't you?
03:16Well, even if his job is backup quarterback, I, I was just going to say, what's he supposed
03:22to say?
03:23Hey, really nice job doing your job, but that's not going to get you a promotion.
03:32For, for instance, I, but Jeff, there's the right way to do this and there's a right way
03:36to talk to people.
03:37Okay.
03:38But, but, but just Nick, Nick Padone was in.
03:40Okay.
03:41In with me, Dan yesterday filling in for you.
03:44Right.
03:45Did fearless leader have to call Nick and say, Hey, and Andy's back today.
03:49And it he's, we're not going to replace him with you.
03:54No, it was in.
03:55Exactly.
03:56He knew exactly.
03:57And that's the same thing with should it's the same thing.
04:01I still think there's a right way to do the guy went out and played a good football game
04:06in a loss against a bad defense.
04:08And that's not to take anything away from what he did.
04:10Cause I thought he was, he was fun.
04:12I thought he did a nice job in the second half, but his job is to be the backup and
04:16you
04:16want a backup to go in and be able to play.
04:18Well, God knows the Minnesota Vikings didn't have that.
04:23And, and I, I don't think you owe should or anything more than a, Hey, nice job.
04:29Way to go.
04:30Way to be ready and stay ready.
04:33I don't, I don't think you owe, you know, like if, if Joel Batonio had missed a game in
04:40the past and Zach Zinter had filled in for him, Hey Zach, nice job, but we're going back
04:47to Joel.
04:48I think part of it just has to do with the way you run your business.
04:52And I don't, if that's, I don't, I mean, again, we're, we're speculating on why he,
04:57why they waited.
04:58I actually think what you said speculating because they put us in that position.
05:01Oh, that's a good point too.
05:02But I think what you said first was right that they didn't want to put themselves in
05:08a position of saying, we said so-and-so starting on Sunday.
05:10Now all of a sudden we traded them.
05:11Yeah.
05:11Cause the next thing, you know, you trade them and they score a touchdown the next week
05:14against you and you lose.
05:15Oh, wait a minute.
05:17Yeah.
05:18Andy, Andy, that doesn't happen.
05:19Never.
05:20You cut guys who do that.
05:21You don't trade them.
05:22I'm sorry.
05:22Cut.
05:23Yes.
05:25That's funny though.
05:26But, but there is also a chain of like, Jeff, I don't think there was anything wrong.
05:32If Todd Munkin hadn't said anything to anybody, or he wanted to just to make sure he was on
05:36the same page with the front office or his assistants on what they were going to do this
05:40week.
05:40And he wasn't, he didn't feel clear to say on Monday, this is going to be our starting
05:46quarterback.
05:46And I go back to that chain of command thing.
05:48And you know, you bring up the, well, if I'm not here, did he have to tell Nick that
05:52he wasn't back today?
05:54And that's not the point.
05:55Keith also probably said, Hey, I need you to fill in on today.
05:58So you would have known that too should, or I need you to fill in in new Orleans because
06:04he's concussed.
06:06I mean, this is kind of a weird thing to bring it up this way, but I think that people,
06:12you
06:12earn respect and you want to be, if, if the information affects you immediately, you want
06:17to know right away.
06:19And I, this is a really weird example.
06:21So just bear with me and just understand it's, it, it's just a weird example.
06:25Like I was watching the, um, the doc on Matt, on Matthew Perry.
06:29Okay.
06:30Stay with me on this one from friends, from friends and how he passed away.
06:34And they were, they were interviewing his sister.
06:36Yeah.
06:37Okay.
06:38And his sister found out that he passed away from TMZ.
06:44And like, I was heartbroken watching this as I was seeing the whole thing.
06:47And I'm like, man, when someone's going to deliver bad news, you want to hear from somebody
06:52that.
06:53So my, my point is if it's bad news and you're not the starting quarterback, you want to hear
06:59from the coach.
07:00Like it's, it's the coach's place to say you're not the starting quarterback.
07:05He did that in August.
07:10He already told him that, ain't he?
07:12This is the backup quarterback.
07:14Again, this is all about speculation.
07:15Which is okay.
07:16I'm not going to.
07:16It's a great gig.
07:18And he did a, he did a fine job filling in.
07:20They didn't win the game.
07:21And you're going back to the guy who quarterbacked you to five wins.
07:26That's okay.
07:26Do you want to hear from ESPN that you, that you're going back to backup?
07:32Do you?
07:32Or do you want to hear from a coach?
07:33You're not going back to backup.
07:35You are the backup.
07:38And again, my hope, I, I, I was hoping that they, they have seen enough from Shadur that
07:45they wanted to make a change.
07:46Cause I think he has a chance to be the future.
07:48I don't think Deshaun does, but you know, we could be wrong on that.
07:52But, but that said, Andy, he's, he's the backup quarterback.
07:57That's a job.
07:58That's an actual position.
08:01I'm with you.
08:01I, I, I, to me, this whole argument's kind of moot anyways, because I, I agree the first
08:08part of this conversation.
08:09He probably knew on the plane on the way back that he wasn't starting next week.
08:13I'm sure they said, Hey, nice job.
08:15Well, good job, good job filling in and keep doing what you're doing.
08:18That's it.
08:19That's all they really, I mean, you're right.
08:20That's all they say.
08:21Good job doing what you're doing.
08:23Like the way you play the second half.
08:24Stay ready.
08:25That's all you got to say.
08:26Yeah.
08:26And you've done everything that you need to do.
08:28You don't have to have a sit down and say, look, you're not going to be the starting quarterback.
08:35That's not, I mean, that's not his job right now.
08:38No.
08:38And I'm not saying that.
08:39Maybe one day it will be.
08:40And if it, if it happens this year, that might be a great thing for the franchise.
08:44But right now, Deshaun is, I mean, Todd Munkin made the big decision.
08:51One game playing well in New Orleans in a loss shouldn't change that.
08:59To be perfectly honest, Andy, I was kind of hoping that maybe it would.
09:03Do you know what I mean?
09:04Yeah.
09:05I honestly.
09:06Did he just need two more quarters to prove that?
09:08No.
09:08I think there's.
09:09If quarter one and quarter two and a win would have happened, would he be the starting quarterback?
09:13No, I don't think so.
09:15I don't think so.
09:16Because Deshaun was the quarterback in five wins.
09:21I do think, though, for instance, had Deshaun hurt his forearm and was out like for a month
09:31and Shadur went out and played lights out for four games, then you have a conversation.
09:39But this was one game.
09:40The guy had a concussion, though he was cleared, he didn't play.
09:44Okay.
09:44I can buy that.
09:46Why Todd didn't just say he's a starter on Monday.
09:50It's open to interpretation.
09:51That might've made things easier.
09:52Right.
09:53They created some drama.
09:54They didn't need to.
09:55I.
09:56And we all ran with it.
09:59And we're running with it again today.
10:00Sure.
10:01So we'll hear from Deshaun Watson later today.
10:03We'll hear from Todd Munkin today.
10:05I do think.
10:06And I think Deshaun's going to be put in a tough spot.
10:08Hey, you know, why?
10:09Why didn't he say anything on Monday?
10:11Did you know on Monday?
10:13What's the deal?
10:14Why didn't you come back and, you know, why?
10:16Why didn't you play after you were cleared?
10:18Were you unhappy about that?
10:19Todd needs to answer that question.
10:20That's not Deshaun's answer.
10:22No, but Deshaun's going to get those questions.
10:26You're saying you think a reporter's going to say, why didn't you play on Sunday?
10:29No.
10:30Were you ready to play on Sunday?
10:32Oh, okay.
10:34And he should say yes.
10:36Shouldn't he?
10:37Well, if he wants to, if he wants to calm down the whole situation, he'd probably say no.
10:43No, I was still, you know, still coming back.
10:46I was cleared, but it was best for the team that should have played.
10:50Do you think that's what he's going to say?
10:51No, I don't.
10:52Okay.
10:52I just want to make sure.
10:53I want to make sure we're on the same page.
10:55And when he says, no, I was good to go, then the question is, well, then why the hell didn't
10:58he play?
11:00Because Aaron Rodgers would have.
11:02So would have every quarterback.
11:04Joe Burrow would have played.
11:06I don't know.
11:07What do you think of this whole scenario?
11:08Because they created drama when they probably didn't need to.
11:11Todd could have said on Monday, we're going Deshaun, even if they would have made a trade
11:15at the quarterback spot.
11:16And to me, I don't know which is the bigger story.
11:19I would say today, it's the fact that it's official now.
11:21Well, at least Mary Kay says it's official now.
11:24Brown said it, too.
11:25Okay.
11:25And everyone else is saying now.
11:26Well, that's true.
11:27They're putting Deshaun out there today to speak.
11:29Deshaun Watson is your starting quarterback on Sunday.
11:32You good with that?
11:33And did you want them to make a move yesterday?
11:36I'm a little surprised how quiet it was in Berea.
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